STOP OVERHYPING SESSIONS

ok scrooge.

really? is it time for you to change your tampon?

this is a basketball forum…and you’re gonna whine like a b!tch because you don’t like a point guard.

i think the kid has some potential. nobody really calls him a star, atleast they shouldn’t. but for you to get all butt-hurt about somebody liking a player…..that’s just poor.

hahahahahahahahahahahahah d-grizzly callin it like it is

Ramon Sessions is not bad. IMO, you can call him a poor man’s Rajon Rondo. Yes Sessions must improve shooting but he is a bargain at 26 mil and he can improve his shooting. As a PG, either you can make the pass or you cannot. we seen players improve shooting over there 1st 2-3 seasons. LeBron was not a great shooter off the bat.

He seems like a good pass-first PG, I dont know alot about him having only seen him 2 times. He looks like a slasher with good playmaking ability.

microwave i agree with your point about sessions not being a good shooter, but you are whining like my 5 year old brother…. if you don’t like him that’s your opinion, but to get all CAPS about it issssssss whining

anyone else think the microwave’s post is nothing but a spoonfull of bull$hit.

He is being overhyped..

But he’s 23, is it too late to develop a shot?

to be honest, Sessions wont need to shoot. I think if he can slash alot to the basket and pass in NY, he will be loved in NY.

Correct me if im wrong, didn’t Marc Jackson have issues shooting?

Age: 23
Position: Point Guard
Height: 6-3
2008-09 PER: 17.65
2008-09 PER as Point Guard: 20.6
2007-08 PER: 16.48
Assist Percentage Ranking (greater than 1500 minutes played): 11th
2-year Adjusted +/-: 4.60 (5th among point guards)
That’s what Bucks point guard Ramon Sessions brings to the table after two seasons in the NBA — more youth and greater efficiency than either Jason Kidd and Mike Bibby, who have already been seated. Rodney Stuckey was born 10 days after Sessions, yet has been anointed as a starter in Detroit with lesser or equal numbers across the board. Sessions has the size and ability to guard both ones and twos, and has demonstrated the capacity to do so.

There are some red flags on Sessions’ stat sheet. He isn’t yet an efficient outside shooter. He’s drained a grand total of nine 3-pointers in his two seasons in the league, which has kept his effective FG percentage down at just below 45 percent — not so good for a guard. But there’s a silver lining here, too. Sessions gets to the line 7.8 times per 36 minutes. Among point guards, only Devin Harris, Chris Paul, and Chauncey Billups top Sessions in this category. This brings his true shooting percentage above 52 percent.

Sessions was drafted No. 56 overall by Milwaukee in 2007-08. After a stint during his rookie season in the D-League, he was called up to the big club and impressed. Milwaukee extended him a qualifying offer of a little more than $1 million. Given the financial state of the Bucks franchise and their selection of Brandon Jennings in last month’s draft, it’s likely that they’d decline to match a sizable offer for Sessions by another team.

I asked several different basketball people here in Las Vegas who could tell me about Sessions’ game, the unanimous response was, “Dan D’Antoni is your man.”

D’Antoni, a Knicks assistant, coached Sessions in AAU ball in South Carolina and is one of Sessions’ boosters. When we approached D’Antoni in the stands at Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas and asked tell us more about Sessions, he enthusiastically agreed. D’Antoni is quite possibly the nicest guy in Clark County right now. When we walked down the bleachers to the corner of the gym, the drone of the PA was loud, and D’Antoni led me to the stairwell, where he could offer his testimony in relative quiet.

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This is why people are high on him as well as his knack for putting up triple doubles.

maybe his shooting is being overhyped, but i think sessions the player is not being overhyped. he’s a solid PG who makes his teammates better, IMO. I think he’s well worth the midlevel.

Just chill dude. Sessions hasnt been a proven 3-point shooter but when you watch him in a game it isnt a glaring weakness. I’ve seen him play and I’ve also seen him hit big 3’s. He hasnt shot a high volume of 3’s but that can definitely be improved upon. People are high on him because of his size and efficiency. I can think of a few of the best PG’s that have poor percentages.

Oh and I love Marc Jackson but he wasnt one of the GOAT.

I said Marc Jackson. So im correct, he wasnt that much of a shooter?

Im not comparing them, I picked a NY PG who didn’t shoot alot. Yes he had Ewing, Wilkins, Walker and etc. but adding Sessions to a team with jump shooter and some good post players can relive the fact he cannot shoot that well.

just for the record everyone, i think its marK (not marc) jackson…. marc jackson is the 7-footer who played for the wolves and 76ers. don’t know where he’s at now.

It isnt a glaring weakness because he doesnt shoot a high volume. He comes up with big shots and isnt killing his team because he stays away from his weakness. You made your point that his shooting is a big negative now get a life. You’re way too cynical.

a glaring weakness is something where you say dang, that guy should not be on the court because of _______. i think what he meant is, he’s never seen sessions play and seen teams take advantage of his lack of shooting. if anything, ppl playing off sessions gives him more freedom to set-up his teammates cuz no one is up in his face!

haha where did i use name calling. Maybe you can learn what cynical means when they let you go back for your GED.

hahaha yea mircowave, you’re the only i’ve seen getting upset… clown

Another thing I think held sessions back from shooting alot is he played 27mpg. I think Sessions will improve. He is not far off from 45% shooting.

wow…Mircowave you were looking at knicksfreak’s balls? How you know they didn’t drop? LOL

You need to relax a bit sir

it’s just sad to read what this kid has to say. you guys should get out of this kid’s post, i did awhile back.

microwave…what is your favorite team?

Just go back to burying your face in the stats sheets. Maybe you can look away from your porn sites this season to watch some games and realize stats arent everything. I can imagine you playing xbox in your mom’s basement thinking about what cynical means. I’m a real fan that sticks with my team. I dont jump on the bandwagon like you probably do. Let me guess… is your favorite team the Thunder, Lakers, or Cavs?

you can add my twolves wins and we probably wouldn’t have hit .500 … you can’t judge someone based on who their favorite team is, besides the fact that we’re not fair weather fans

Jason Kidd recently got the “J” back in his name because he wasn’t a great shooter for 85% of his career. So regardless of age you can learn to shoot. Micheal Redd is another that came to mind, he wasn’t a great shooter when he came in the league but with help of Ray Allen look at him now. What Im trying to say is he shows great playmaking ability and great heart with his continuous attacking of the paint and play on D so he is a great pickup for any team in need for a PG

I wish Sheltwon was here right now. He would love to go head up with microwave about Sessions. Last night I was argueing that Sessions wasnt a top 5 PG in the NBA and now I’m argueing that he has the talent to be a very good guard.

hahaha that’s cuz sheltwon and microwave are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum and as is almost always the case, the truth lies somewhere inbetween…

i stick behind my behind team too, reguardless of what lil kids say…like what microwave says.

what does someone’s favorite team have anything to do with their opinion about ramon sessions… unless their favorite team is the bucks.

i’m so proud of you being a fan of 3 playoffs teams, one of which was a world champion! omg! your mother would be proud, you did well in life

Hope you enjoy floating around .500 for the rest of eternity.

it’s now becoming funny to read how stupid he is.

Oh ok, but you think the Sixers make the playoff without Miller? I dunno

Also, I saw your post where you said he never had 45% shooting. He averaged 27mpg and still had 12ppg, 3rpg and 5apg. He also had 44.5% shooting. He is not a bad player like you think. I think going to NY would be a great move for NY. He would be surrounded by players who can shoot and also better post up options.

I thought badgerhustler lived in wisconsin. haha.

If Sessions goes to New York (he might have already signed, but I’m not sure) he will most likely put up around 14-18 ppg and 5-8 apg. Although I could easily see him getting 20 ppg because the Knicks have no true star to go to so he will get his chances.

OKAY I HAVE TO MAKE A CONFERENCE CALL, ILL BE BACK IN 5 MINUTES TO SEE WHICH ONE OF MY LADIES IS STIL WRITING ME

I guess mommy made him some grilled cheese…LOL J/K

why you still throwin stats out. This has gone beyond any sort of reasoning. This has turned into an nba draft version of “Yo Momma”.

hahaha you would prove to be an ignorant as$ mother fuck3r. i must be a country bumpkin cuz i live in the city of Minneapolis. wow. you. are. ignorant.

you probably reside in the cushy philly suburbs and tell people you are from philadelphia….. psych.

hahahaha and you insult people by saying their are homosexuals….. very intelligent

the microwave… quick to be done.

I understand what your saying about Sessions, he still needs to prove he’s a mainstay in the NBA. I think him getting a big deal would allow fans to see what he’s really made of.

Sorry Im new here…gotta learn when to just stop.

BTW Love the Site!

AHAHAHAHAHA, this is the most action the microwave has gotten since…. never. we are his ‘b1tches’ ….and that makes d-grizzly the fruit cake somehow

43rd and grand.

I love how this debate has turned into an internet tough-guy bashing.

I live in Hennepin county, Eden Prairie. Top 10 place to live in the nation!

and i never said i was hard, just that i’m not a country bumpkin… i’d rather be soft than an ignorant idiot

Seriously, ya’ll need to call a truce on this. Your making me laugh. And by the way, Sessions is overrated.

Sessions isnt overpaid at the MLE though.

i mean, i’m studying for the CPAs and it’s way more entertaining to see a complete idiot make a fool of himself.

sounds about right. But his stats are a little more impressive then his actual impact on the game. But he is still young and if put in the right situation, he could really develop. But people putting him into the top 5 pg discussion is a little premature. He would really benefit from going to NY if that does in fact happen.

I wonder where you live? That is a really homophobic statement too. Really? You didn’t have to add that weiner wanting part, it shows your lack of respect of humans and a lot of ignorance.

I try not to take this stuff seriously, but I’ve been a bball nut for close to 20 years, so it’s fun to talk some hoops with you guys.

microwave, you can’t just attribute your ‘weiner wanting’ to your ‘wife’s gay friends.’ if that’s how you like it, that’s how you like it! we all know you don’t have a wife, but you seem to be very knowledgable about minnesota’s gay population

I dont get how where you live can determine if you’re soft. I grew up in the backwoods suburbs outside of Kingston NY but I dont think I can be considered soft. I am a brown belt in judo and a professional ironworker and rugby player. I’ll take on any comers. lol

Haha am i knicksfan?

Rodney King: “Can’t we all just get along?”

you are one smart cookie, i respect your opinions and your knowledge of the game, you are one of the smarter people on this site, along with gatorheels and several others, the microwave is one retarted f*cker.

The sixers arent all that great homie. Sorry to break the news.

seriously dude, try and make an agrument with substance, rather than about the teams that we happen to root for.

this is why my dad left philly…. the ppl there are insanely obnoxious haha

A player like Sessions doesn’t have to shoot. All he has to do is get the ball to the shooters. Which he does well. Ask Michael Redd when he isn’t injured.

hahahaha i was just pushing a little fun at you by generalizing all the people of one place based on one a$$hole. 😉

this post was hilarious but seriously when you have a whole website calling you a bitch and saying stfu you know your doing something wrong microwave SHUT UP

On my fantasy team. He is solid and plays a decent all around game. He got more minutes because he was on a bad team that was weak at the point. He is being overhyped. I think someone is going to overpay for him to. He is a good player, but not like the way I am hearing him talked about. A solid back up in my opinion.

Hahahaha. Couldnt have said it better myself futureknick

I am proud of your Knickfreak. Also his shooting is not as bad as Rondo’s. It is hard to develop rhythm when you don’t get consistent minutes. Dude is an average shooter who is not a strong 3 point shooter but he can make them in the clutch. The reason Sessions is getting mad love is because he is very good with great potential and no one is talking about him until now. well i talked about him but I was actually forced to because someone got upset that I had him high on my point guard list. If you watch Session play you don’t see people consistently give him space to shoot it like they do with Rondo. He is not a great shooter but there are lot of guys in the NBA that are not great shooters and then you have guys that really can’t shoot. There is a difference. Also Redd came into the league as a decent athlete and slasher. Dude went 2nd round. He worked on his j probably with Ray Allen and now he is one of the top shooters in the league. Sessions will get it. Ariza who made all those threes came in and could not shoot a lick. The thing is Sessions can run the point well. he is a legit point guard who can defend ones and twos. His shooting is slightly below average but he can stroke it in the clutch. He can also rebound well even though numbers dont say as much. Dude has gotten a few triple doubles. If you see him play you will know why some of us get hype and it is mainly because we can not believe that people dont realize how good he is. He is getting overhyped to some degree now but if he goes to New York or any place where he can get minutes and I hope he does not go to the clippers, yall will see that this is not overhype. With the right amount of minutes an if he improve his J a lil bit he could overtake some of the best point guards in league. His playmaking ability is close to the level of a Nash or Kidd and he has only had 2 years to show it and less than 26 minutes a game in the NBA. I am so hype to see what he can do with more time and it a system that utilizes his talents. Rose will probably overtake him the year after next but still i am hype.

sheltwon, you need to start using paragraphs… or just break that shit up a little, it’s too hard to read when it’s all together

Intresting, I cant wait to see Sessions play a whole season as a starter……….

With more minutes Session who is a better playmaker than Duhon will and with the Knicks having more weapons would probably average 9 to 12 assists. Those minutes are deceiving because some games he had to play the two and also some game he did not play much dude to Ridnour getting minutes early on. No way dude does not put up over 8 assists if he average 30 minute plus for New York. Point wise it does not matter as long as he is a threat. Billups used to not put up numbers but scored in the clutch and mananage the teams offense. I am pretty sure in 30 fast pace minutes for the Knicks he could possibly score a Mo Williams type 17 points with 4 rebounds until his perimeter shot gets better than watch out because he will be playing D and putting up Nash type numbers in less minutes.

Sessions will be putting up MVP numbers???? I think you might be hyping him up a lil too much…..

billyk have you seen him play. How many player do you know that put up triple doubles. Sessions reminds me of a young jason Kidd but with a slightly better shot.

Sheltwon, I’ve been waiting for you to bail me out of this debate. You could have done a much better job of defending Sessions. All I could think all day was where is Sheltwon when I need him haha. You need to shut themicrowave up.

Yeah I have seen him in a few games he looks like a decent player but he didnt seem like a future all star….. I know Sessions has had some big games but playing as a reserve player is a WHOLE lot diffrent than playing as a starter cause defense and players actually key in on you…. But in all fairness I would like to see him explode like you say he will, I just didnt see that type of player when I watched him play…..

My bad badger my head is filled with stuff and I just type it to let it out.

I will try to break things down better okay.

Also billyk what is your argument that he can’t do what I said?

People say what a player can not do but they never back it up.

Dude is already a great nba passer.
He is also skilled enough to play the one and the two and guard both positions.
He may not be great shooter but he is a decent shooter and is clutch.
45 percent in that limited of time and really just maybe a lil over a year of experience of NBA wise for a team that stays injured is not bad.
He will go to offense with Knicks hopefully where he has more opportunity to put up big numbers.
He had I think 1 triple doubles and like two games of 20 20 and he did it with a limited amount of time and inconsistent minutes.
There are few true playmakers in the NBA and Sessions is one of them and he is young
Also dude has made some game winning shots for someone who is not a good shooter. next year he will at least shoot 48 percent.

You did a great job Knickfreak. I kind of came late had to make groceries man.

I will admit billyk that a lot of games he just seemed average but it plays d and make smart plays even when he does not do exciting stuff and his worse games was coming off the bench.

He played pretty well in the games he started. That is why I want him to get a full year of being a starter.

I will put it like this I am kind of hyping him up over what he has done but after next year what I am doing will not seem like enough.

I told you the biggest thing is guy is like a young Jason Kidd or maybe a younger Ander Miller and people dont seem to want him. Those are two great playmakers that have made their team better. At his age and he play D that is a premium. After watching him play and looking at what he can do and checking stats and watching highlights to see his greatest moments and how he did for someone that gets overlooked. I can not see why people dont see how good he is. I guess that happened to Andre Miller for awhile too and he always was a great playmaker every where he went but Session is a better defender and scorer than Miller was at that age. Jason Kidd got more minutes early on so he played better than what Sessions has done. but with that being said. There are not that many true playmakers out there and most are old.
To find a young one and one that plays D and has size so he can not get pushed around.
What else are you looking for. I know he is not the most athletic but neither is Nash and he is quick and strong enough to defend point guards even though he is not a leaper like Derick Rose and some others.
I think he also could be overlook because he is so unassuming he does stuff and he does it so smooth unless he has great stats you will not noticed it. I did not noticed him until that 20 20 game in his rookie season and even after that, I was not hyped about him like I am now.

I realize I am so hyped about Sessions because I am a huge fan of true playmakers and his other skills intrigue me. I am also intrigued with that guy that Dallas got from France or whatever dude is going to be a stud. It is so quick and controlled with it and he can pass. Also Kidd is his mentor. Every guy that Kidd mentors can pass and make plays. Think Steve Nash and also to some extent Marcus Williams who like kid can not shoot well and he also has been in the wrong places at the wrong times but hopefully he catches on with Memphis. There are other guys who played behind him but I forget them right now.

Hahaha seriously im not arguing with you…I just dont see it…. I saw Sessions a few times when he played in college with Fazekas and that dark skinned cat (Kemp I think) and I saw him a few times when he played in the league and it doesnt make sense to say he soo great when he hasnt put it together (playing time or not)…. Im not saying what he cant or can do what I am saying is that he hasnt done ANYTHING in the league as yet…. To say he will put up Nash (MVP) numbers is jumping the gun… When he is a STARTER and teams are game planning aganist him lets see what type of player is… And to say a person who shoots a career 22% from three point line is a “decent shooter” makes me scratch my head… As far as him being clutch I dont think he has played a truly meaningful game in the NBA to be considered clutch… As far as the numbers he put up, alot of players in the NBA are capable of putting up big numbers in any game (thats why they are pro players)…. I dont like or dislike Sessions but I feel that you are overrating him a little bit…. And I feel that there are plenty of PLAYMAKERS in the NBA…..

I dig the case you are trying to make but I gotta see him do it over the course of a season as a starter…..

will do this for the knicks 15 points 8 asts 1.5 steals
better than duhan
i think signing him wud cause a trade for duhan cuz hell be angry or they keep duhon midseason let douglass take over if he proves himself mayb but both things end up with duhan mad whatever

I think he can come close to averaging a double-double for the Knicks.

I would think

16ppg, 12apg and 2spg