Most Overrated Player

JRUE HOLIDAY!

its dwight howard. well not in all. its his offense. people say he is a power down low and he needs to be doubled, but like most post up centers today, he throws up crap. his hook shot is so ugly. but when it comes to defense and rebounding hes a star.

Andre Igoudala EASILY

HAHA J.K just wanter to see what ^^^ said

im going to go with CB4

Greg Oden. I think Tyrus Thomas can be put in that category too.

I was saying Bosh was overrated on another thread. I just think his stats are more impressive then his overall impact on the game. I think Rondo is overrated. Teams play off him because he can’t shoot and he plays with hall of famers who take a lot of pressure off him. And I love Durant, but after reading people say he is gonna win mvp’s and is one of the 5 best players today, I think people are going over board with him. Let him make the playoffs, work on his ball handling, become an above average rebounder and defender before we crown him as great.

rondo and rasheed wallace(now) because he’s really slowing down at a dramatic pace yet teams were still going after him hard.

If anything he is underrated. He does everything you want from him except create offense off the dribble. Any team would be lucky to have Shane.

Hedo Turkoglu

Chris Bosh, i dont think you can be put in that “superstar” category unless you lead your team to the playoffs, like Wade, James, CP3, others..

Some say hes in the top 5 PFs, I dont even think hes top 10

I guess its Turkoglu then if its not Jrue Holiday

Mo “front runner” Williams…..

Yeah because Shane goes on the floor and gets burned every night. Oh wait…he doesn’t.
I watch him every game. He shuts down the best player, if anything I think Ron is overrated on defense and Battier is completely underrated as a player. He is the only dude in the league who can shut down Kobe. Heck, he’s had games against him where he’s outscored him. He shut down LeBron too when they came to Houston. He is not overrated, if he were, every team wouldn’t contact Houston about him. Well, most teams.

Andre Iguodala shuts down Kobe all the time. Shane Battier does his best to contain Kobe. I remember one time in the playoffs, Battier had his palm flat on Kobe’s face when he was contesting his jumper and Kobe still made it. Never would happen to my man Andre…

are some of the most overrated things out there. Guys like Iverson and Alvin Robertson were some of the best stealers in the game, but they were weak at defense. Shawn Bradley and Manute Bol were some of the best shot blockers in the game, but were weak on defense. Battier get’s the job done, and if your only argument is his stats don’t add up, then that is kinda weak.

Are you honestly saying this…That’s the best defense you can do against Kobe and the majority of the time it won’t go in, but he is Kobe. Well, if you say so though, I like Iggy as a player alot.

YES! haha. I forgot to mention him because… well…… I forgot about him. He is not a top PG. He did not deserve the all-star game. He is a whiner and a crier. Sad thing is that it looks like its rubbing off on Lebron.

Dwight Howard…doesn’t own a post move to save his life…if he isn’t dunking he not scoring.

Baron Davis is another guy, he shoots a horrible percentage and is an at best mediocre FT shooter.

yes mo will overrated and d-west underrated

Let me add Bruce Bowen as well.

Top 5 in DPOY Multiple Times.

Since you say Iguodala shuts down kobe all the time, I decided to look up their last 6 meetings. Kobe has averaged 24 pts on 49% shooting and has won 4 out of the 6. So you consider that shutting him down?

Yes considering how Kobe average about 5 or 6 more points than that per game every year. Maybe not shutting him down, but holding him to below average performances…

but kobe’s fg pct isn’t that high over the course of the season

CARMELO ANTHONY! – he’s a selfish and waaaayyyyy overrated player…

Melo used to be overrated but his play last season kind of flew under the radar. He also developed defensive tenacity out of nowhere too.

yeah ok ^ ^ ^ sure

haha was that at me or fizer? lol

He gaurds Kobe well, but nobody shuts Kobe down. They just make it harder for him to go off.

Fizer LoL

I’m gonna throw a name out there some may or may not agree with… Kevin Garnett.

I’m not a big fan of his.. He’s a PF who thinks he is a SG, has trouble taking the ball strong to the hoop, and is sometimes turnover prone.

And yeah, he did win the championship, but with the talent on that team he shouldn’t have gotten all the credit he did for being the lord and savior of boston…

so Shaq’s a C that thinks he is a PG LOL, but 4real Kg is a Superstar

Definetly Chris Bosh
Cant get his team to the playoffs, and is not a franchise player.
He is good, but not a superstar.
He settles for his jumpshot over 50% of the time.
Im a raptors fan saying this.

what have you been smoking spencer? Theres a reason the Celtics got knocked out by Orlando. And the reason is…..Garnett was injured. He is almost unguardable being so athletic and almost 7 feet tall. He is one of the top defenders in the league. He can guard all 5 positions. He is a hardnosed competitor.

Are you crazy?

I would agree with KG getting more credit than he deserves. He didn’t single handedly save the Boston Celtics. One of the main reasons that the Celtics were bad before he got there was because Paul Pierce was injured, and had to sit out most of the season. KG is a great leader and motivator, but he doesn’t deserve as much credit as he gets for turning that franchise around. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen don’t get enough, especially Ray.

KG????? 20 ppg 11 rebs 4 asst 1 stl 2 blks for his career <<<< thats not overrated…… Throw in an MVP, ALL NBA Defense (DPOY in 07-08) and legendary intensity…. Dude carried Minny on his back for over a decade…. One of the greatest mid range shooting big men of all time….

Pierce wasnt injured for the 4 seasons they were really bad. They would have repeated if Garnett was healthy

I never said he was overrated…he will go down as one of the greatest that ever played, but he doesn’t deserve all the cred he gets for turning Boston around.

And I agree, he WAS Minnesota when he was a T-Wolves member, but as far as him being the savior that saved Boston, that’s for debate.

Dwight howard and josh smith.

Dwight howard: 4 sum of u who have read wat i think on d howard u already kno i dont like him. but jus becuase i dont like players doesnt mean i dont recognize game. and as far as dwight goes i feel he gets waaayyy 2 much credit for being better than he is. i feel its becuase dwight was an all star and becuz dwight was a dunk champion. but let me reason. 1st of all there arent 2 many good centers in the NBA anyway so him being an all star in the EAST is no real accomplishment. also he was the 1st center 2 ever win the dunk contest. whcih isnt a bad thing but thats doesnt mean u should be all NBA. now yes dwight rebounds good and plays good D but his offense is virtually non existent if he isnt dunking the ball. you would never throw the ball down 2 dwight in clutch moments of the game and expect him 2 get a basket. dwight has a ways 2 go until he is the guy that the NBA is hyping him up 2 be. I still believe Yao Ming is the best Center in basketball.Not jus becuase dwight said yao was his hardest competition but because yao does a lot of things well and everything a center is supposed 2 do.

Josh Smith: this has 2 be the most overrated player in the NBA in my opinion. I live in GA and have season tickets 2 the hawks games and there is not a player i have seen with more potential and skills but jus doesnt apply it than josh smith. Im not gonna list his attitude as a prblem cuz i could care less about players attitudes but i will list his iq as a problem. this kid jus doesnt kno basketball. i kno he ‘s still young but he should have understood wat his strenghts are by now. Josh smith doesnt bring it everynight. he often has lackluster performances unless he’s on a fast break for a dunk. he has no jump shot watsoever but still continues to shoot them as if he was bird or ray allen. Its obvious 2 even fans when u see him taking a jumper and the entire crowd is yellin nooo!! haha it sound bad but ask any hawks fan they know exactly wat im talking about. Smith should simply be better. he is obviously better when he’s attacking the rim but he doesnt seem 2 understand that and neither does that sorry excuse 4 a coach. OVERRATED!!

Josh Smith needs to STOP shooting 3’s……

I’m a huge fan of his game, and I think he is one of the smartest players in the game when it comes to utilizing your ability, but no way in hell should he have won back to back MVP’s. Kobe was clearly robbed in 2005!

Well lets analyze the teams that he had…they were full of rookies like Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, and a young Kendrick Perkins. They were heavily inexperienced and they were under new management and a new coach in Doc Rivers, there is an adjustment period to go through. They lost guys like Antoine Walker (the one in his prime, not the one writing bad checks in Vegas) and a young Joe Johnson. It also needs to be said that they won the Atlantic before they rebuilded.

Yeah. He is the only one who can even compare to Lebron with size and athleticism but he falls in love with his jumper too often. If he penetrated more like Lebron he could be a surefire allstar.

I’m glad I’m not a hawks fan because that guy would irritate the hell out of me. I saw so many plays against the cavs in the second round where he was just giving up dunks to Lebron instead rotating over to help. He has the tools to ba an all-star, but zero heart.

Yes and they also won a championship with Rondo at PG and Davis and Powe getting quality minutes. They won with rookies because Garnett made the difference. You said “One of the main reasons that the Celtics were bad before he got there was because Paul Pierce was injured, and had to sit out most of the season.” Thats why I brought up all the other time Boston sucked while Pierce was healthy.

Yea Josh Smith is overrated, I live in Atlanta as well and everyone thinks he is so good because he is a flashy dunker and good shotblocker. But he cant shoot, he dribbles like someone who just picked up a basketball for the 1st time in their life, and he is a bad defender on and off the ball when it comes to anything except blocks and the occasional steal. And on top of that, gets mad when Coach Woodson tells him to stop settling. Overrated

And Pierce was the only veteran on the team with that kind of leadership ability when they were a struggling franchise. I’m pretty sure Garnett is not the only leader on the team. When they won the title, it was the big 3…not the Big Ticket, and only the Big Ticket. Ray Allen and Paul Pierce have been in the league long enough and have enjoyed enough individual success to be considered as serious leaders and driving forces to success as a whole.

thats get to some real names.. m. redd and s. nash!!

this aimed towards my friends I actually think Joe Johnson is overrated now… I rarely see him step up in big games are clutch situations.. thats just my opinion

Jameer Nelson is overrated. I’m not just saying that because of the playoffs( I know he was hurt) but he did not deserve the all star berth he got. He is a major defensive liability and is unathletic and not a true point guard, something you seriously need when your franshise player is a big man, especially an athlete like Dwight Howard. They played better the whole season when Turkoglu ran the team, not Nelson. The easts lack of elite point guards seriously favors the Magic, as Nelson is too much of a liability to guard someone like a Chris Paul a Deron Williams or even Steve Nash.

Name 5 power fowards better than Garnett (of all time)……

here are some Bynum, Josh Smith, Mo Williams, Baron Davis, Mike Bibby, Dunleavy, Kirilenko

without a doubt manu. This man hasn’t played a complete season in years.. and yet all everyone talks about is when hes back there unbeatable. How bout the fact he might have the greatest power forward ever a top 5 nba point guard on his team and one of the greatest coaches in nba history. I’m not saying the guy cant play but its not 2005 anymore and hes a sixth man he plays one good game every 5 and instead of people saying ginobli had a good game for a change they always say when is he going to be his oldself and if you look at the stats hes been the most inconsistent player of the last 8 years he just a solid role player who should never even be thought of as an allstar! plus he travels EVERYTIME he touches the ball aha

and melo is the best scorer in the nba or if not second to durant so overated? i think not

Haha. Manu was in the Underrated forum also. Can you be under and overrated??

tracy mcgrady….. hands down… i mean i understand he was the tits when he played in orlando… but when has he been healthy since… also rip hamilton

Id say Nate Robinson for sure and then I’d go with Dirk. I love both of these guys but let me explain.

Robinson is playing on a team that currently has no star player and their only other true scorer is David Lee. I think when someone wins a dunk contest, people think of them as either being a good player or having a lot of potential. I dont think he’ll ever be an all-star.

Dirk did deserve MVP that year but he is always on the team that chokes in the playoffs. If he was as great as people say he is, he would have stepped up in those 2 series and the mavericks would have 2 titles right now.

im not goin by provin bums im goin by dudes who do all this in tha reg season but when its time 3 knuckle up in tha playoffs they always fold when it matters tha most….or in my book they r jus way 2 overratted and not as good as they think they r….or wat most ppl think they r…lol

1. hedo turkglu
2. carmelo anthony(favorite player)awww that hurts…
3. paul perice (he thinks he is tha best player in tha world b serious)
4. carlos boozer
5. Antawn Jamison
6. mo williams(just shot tha cavs ot tha playoffs mike brown still cant coach dont kno y he played lbj mins like her was a star but thats another subject….)
7. dirk nowiztki(love me he stuffs tha stat sheet but he cant get it dont when it matters tha most)
8. tracy mcgrady
dudes who havent realized there potential(bviously since they got paid they have better things 2 do besides bball)
9.marvin williams
10. rudy gay…

Mad props on your list. Just take Jamison off it, and I agree 100%

who u talkin to?

i think josh smith is overated because he only does dunks and blocks. hes carrer is 14ppg 2.3 b 2.6 assist and 7.4 rebound

Some people won’t like this post but, I am throwing Luol Deng into this mix. Yes I realize he was injured this year, but before that he was only averaging 14 ppg and 6 rpg, is that really worth the 10 million he is making. His numbers have declined since his 3rd year and he seems like he is heading more towards a Shane Battier career then say a Melo type career.

HOW ABOUT —— TRACY MCGRADY —- MR I CANT WIN A FIRST RD PLAYOFF SERIES BUT IM SUPPOSED TO BE A STAR

paul pierce

I think the term overrated is simply opinion but if I had to pick a player, I would go with Chris Bosh. He can play really well and is a legit 20points-10 rebounds guy. My Issue is, can he be a 1st option? I think if he opts out in 2010, he will be looked upon as a championship piece by most teams (Cleveland, Miami, New York) and a superstar by some (Dallas, New Jersey,etc)

Im going to touch on a couple players that you guys mentioned.
Chris Bosh for one, I agree that he needs to bring his team to the playoffs to be labeled “an elite” but saying he might not be a top 10 PF is a little ridicules.
Andre Iguodala CAN NOT shut down Kobe, 5 points off is season average means nothing, I will say he is one of the leagues better defenders tho. But offensively he’s way too inconsistent and that’s why he will soon take second option to Thaddeus Young.
Hedo Turkoglu I dont recall anyone calling him a Superstar, so im not sure how he’s overrated? He’s 6’10 with great court vision, ball handling and a jump shot. He’s shown over and over again for the past few years that he’s clutch. His only weakness is is inability to defend consistently.
Josh Smith does in fact shoot way too many three’s but, I bet if he had a true playmaking point running his team, we would see a whole different player. I would love to have him on my team any day.
And to finish it off my vote for most overrated is…….. drum role……….. its a tie Tracy McGrady, and Dirk Nowitzki

I think it became quite apparent that Marion had been severely overrated for awhile. The guy turned out to be the epitome of a system player in Phoenix. After he left the team the guy has struggled in set offenses, and will probably never return to the all-around threat he achieved in D’Antoni’s run and gun system in Phoenix.

1.)If Andre Iguodala is inconsistent on offense, what would you consider Thaddeus Young? Andre Iguodala isnt inconsistent at all. He gets you about 20 pts, 5 rebs, and 5 assts every night. He defends the other team best perimeter player and usually holds them to below average games. And he does everything else better than Thad too, never get why people think he will be better. Never one time in my ENTIRE life seen Thaddeus Young create his own shot. EVER. And I’ve never seen him take anyone out of their comfort zone when he plays defense. Andre Iguodala will always be better. No doubt in my mind.

2.) You dont have to be a superstar to be overrated. Hedo Turkoglu had a pretty good playoff performance with Orlando, has been one of the more productive players in the game over the last 2 years, yes. But before then, was he really a player that if you saw him leave in free agency you would lose sleep over? Im talking about his San Antonio, Sacremento days, the days when he was a mediocre player. I know I wouldnt. I think he was a system player with Orlando, and everybody all of a sudden thinks he is a step up from Vince Carter. HAHA, what a joke. Hedo will NOT push Toronto over the top, I guarantee it. He is a system player, pretty overrated right now

3.) Josh Smith doesnt take alot of 3’s, he takes to many mid-range shots. He still a fairly raw player, who just scores off of shots close to the basket and gets noteriety because he makes vicious blocks because of his athleticism. Atlanta doesnt have a guy like a Chris Paul or Deron Williams running the point, but Mike Bibby does direct traffic and set guys up to make plays. Josh Smith just settles and he doesnt move well without the ball, and when you tell him to do something that doesnt involve him, he conplains. If you want that on your team, more power to ya!

Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady (now), Mo Williams, Manu and Tony Parker.

Antawn Jamison, Pau, KD(at least in these forums, I know I’m gonna get some negatives for this, but some of you talk about him as if he’s a god), Ben Gordon