my pre ncaa tournament big board with nba comparisons:

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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 8:56am #65912

kobyz
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1. Lonzo Ball – John Wall/Gary Payton
2. De’Aaron Fox – Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague
3. Josh Jackson – Shawn Marion
4. Jayson Tatum – Steave Smith/Stephen Jackson
5. Lauri Markkanen – Rashard Lewis
6. Jonathan Isaac – Tayshaun Prince meets Al-Farouq Aminu
7. Malik Monk – Monta Ellis meets J.J Redick
8. Dennis Smith – Stephon Marbury
9. Markelle Fultz – Gilbert Arenas/Reggie Jackson
10. Frank Ntilikina – Goran Dragic meets Avery Bradley
11. Bam Adebayo – Tristan Thompson/Antonio Davis
12. Miles Bridges – Larry Johnson/Marvin Williams
13. Robert Williams – Kenyon Martin
14. TJ Leaf – Juwan Howard/Trey Lyles
15. Zach Collins – Myles Turner/Alex Len
16. Joel Berry – Kyle Lwory/Mo Williams
17. Luke Kennard – Allen Crabbe/Michael Redd
18. Josh Hart – Anthony Parker/Courtney Lee
19. Grayson Allen – Mario Elie/Malcolm Brogdon
20. Dillon Brooks – Justise Winslow/Wilson Chandler
21. Jarrett Allen – Marcin Gortat
22. John Collins – Cody Zeller
23. Johnathan Motley – Amir Johnson
24. Ivan Rabb – Gorgui Dieng
25. Justin Jackson – Matt Barnes/DeMarre Carroll
26. Caleb Swanigan – Carlos Boozer/Luis Scola
27. Tyler Lydon – Nikola Mirotic/Davis Bertans
28. Isaiah Hartenstein – Bobby Portis
29. Harry Giles – Larry Nance Jr
30. Dwayne Bacon – Ben McLemore/Dion Waiters

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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 9:30am #1093938

OhCanada-
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You cant be serious.
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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 12:39pm #1093958

Zouldiers
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Jalen Rose would be proud of these comparisons whew.
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- Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 1:53pm #1093965
  
  kobyz
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  No, jalen rose has the most mainstream comparisons…
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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 2:53pm #1093966

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You confuse me. Your comparisons are god awful and youve been doing them for 10 years. You actually have pretty decent analysis but you may just be reaching for comparisons yet your draft rankings are all over the place. You cant be a troll because thats way to dedicated to be a troll.
So Ill just ignore the terrible comparisons and ask a few questions.
In what world do you see Fultz falling out of the top 5. He could have a major injury and still be top 10.
Joel Berry really? He is going to have a tough time being drafted.

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- Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 3:14pm #1093968
  
  kobyz
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  Faltz probably goes top 5 but to me is overrated and not enough winning player… I have unc winning it all with berry final four MVP…
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  - Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2017 - 2:00am #1095064
    
    kobyz
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    Called it, can I have a little respect!?
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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 4:59pm #1093971

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I think Kobyz is just thinking outside of the mainstream normal – some comparisons are interesting and not far off the mark.
I also like the fact you made a point of going IR (interracial) with some of the comparisons
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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 5:19pm #1093972

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The next time Lonzo Ball plays defense will be the first. That’s an insult to the glove.
With that being said, I am also high on Tatum, Markksy, and Isaac…nice job

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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 6:05pm #1093977
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Some comparisons you have made are a little questionable but I can see where you are coming from.
Here are the ones that I have made so far and feel confident with:
- Markelle Fultz: Dwyane Wade
- Josh Jackson: Michael Finley/Marques Johnson
- Lonzo Ball: Jason Kidd/Derek Harper
- Dennis Smith: Kevin Johnson
- Jonathan Isaac: Andrei Kirilenko/Tayshaun Prince
- Jayson Tatum: Harrison Barnes
- De’Aaron Fox: Mike Conley/Gus Williams
- Malik Monk: Hersey Hawkins
- Lauri Markennan: Danny Ferry/Ryan Anderson
- Frank Ntilikina: Jeff McInnis/Danny Ainge (This is a tough comparison)
- Isaiah Hartenstein: Steve Stipanovich/Trey Lyles
- Miles Bridges:: Gerald Wallace
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Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 8:20pm #1093980

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Fultz – D”Angelo Russell
Ball – Jason Kidd
Josh Jackson – Iggy / Gerald Wallace
Tatum – Caron Butler / Lamond Murray / Richard Jefferson (prime)
D Fox – John Wall
Dennis Smith – Kevin Johnson. I know Smith is heavier but the speed, explosion and taking to the hoop is KJ.
Isaac – Perry Jones. Before this gets negged. Jones was hyped on “potential” and didn’t really deliver in NCAA just like Isaac. Jones was also top 3 on mocks for much of his ncaa career.
Monk – Jamal Murray
Lauri – Bargs / Ryan Anderson / Brad Miller / Kaminsky
TJ Leaf – donatas motiejunas
Bam – Derrick Favors
Giles – Jermaine ONeal
Franky M – Dante Exum
Luke Kennard – If Joe Ingles and Craig Ehlo had a baby = Kennard
Garyson Allen – poor mans Danny Ainge
Jarret Allen – Myles Turner without the 3 ball
Justin Patton – John Henson
Thomas Bryant – Arnett Moultire
Josh Hart – Malcolm Brogdon
Jalen Brunson – homeless man’s Mike Conley
Ferguson – poor man’s KCP or poor man Gerald Henderson
Justin Jackson – Jeff Taylor
Bacon – Harold Miner / poor mans Jaylen Brown
Caleb Swanison – Sullinger / DeJuan Blair / Big Baby Davis / Terry Mills
Marques bolden (duke) – Desanaga Diop
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- Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 9:31pm #1093981
  
  BallerScript
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  I really don’t see the Fultz-Russell comparison but I’m interested. Would you care to persuade me?
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  - Posted on: Sun, 03/12/2017 - 10:19pm #1093983
    
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    Similar size, can both shoot the 3 and similar passing style/ability and prob going to be 18/20-5-7/8 sort of guys in the pros.
    Both can prob play SG also PG. Both have that same sort of laid back (low motor) attitude. Not really high fiving/pumped players trying to win and inspire a team (if they wanted to win a national championship they would of selecting better college teams). Both play harden like defense.
    This is just college, Ive only seen one pro game of Russell’s
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- Posted on: Mon, 03/13/2017 - 12:24pm #1094008
  
  holefillers1
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  Harry Giles=Jermaine O’Neal?? O’Neal would go first overall in this draft. And your fifth rated prospect is Perry Jones?? This whole thing confuses me.
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Posted on: Thu, 03/16/2017 - 7:55am #1094199

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1. Lonzo Ball – John Wall/Manu Ginobili

2. Markelle Fultz – Latrell Sprewell

3. Josh Jackson – Dominique Wilkins/Shawn Marion

4. Jayson Tatum – Steave Smith/Stephen Jackson

5. Lauri Markkanen – Rashard Lewis

6. De’Aaron Fox – Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague

7. Frank Ntilikina – Joe Dumars/Avery Bradley

8. Dennis Smith – Stephon Marbury

9. Jonathan Isaac – Tayshaun Prince meets Al-Farouq Aminu

10. Bam Adebayo – Tristan Thompson/Antonio Davis

11. Malik Monk – Monta Ellis/Lou Williams

12. Miles Bridges – Larry Johnson/Marvin Williams

13. Robert Williams – Kenyon Martin/Bismack Biyombo

14. TJ Leaf – Juwan Howard/Trey Lyles

15. Zach Collins – Myles Turner/Channing Frye

16. Joel Berry – Kyle Lwory/Mo Williams

17. Jalen Brunson – Sam Cassell/Derek Fisher

18. Luke Kennard – Allen Crabbe/Michael Redd

19. Allonzo Trier – Jamal Murray/Sean Kilpatrick

20. OG Anunoby – Patrick Patterson

21. Jarrett Allen – Marcin Gortat

22. Johnathan Motley – Amir Johnson

23. Grayson Allen – Mario Elie/Malcolm Brogdon

24. Josh Hart – Anthony Parker/Courtney Lee

25. Isaiah Hartenstein – Bobby Portis

26. Rodions Kurucs – Kelly Oubre

27. Tyler Lydon – Nikola Mirotic/Davis Bertans

28. Caleb Swanigan – Carlos Boozer/Luis Scola

29. Justin Jackson – Matt Barnes/DeMarre Carroll

30. Dillon Brooks – Justise Winslow/Wilson Chandler

31. Justin Patton – Willie Cauley-Stein/Alex Len

32. Harry Giles – Clint Capela/Larry Nance Jr

33. Donovan Mitchell – Eric Gordon/Norman Powell

34. Ivan Rabb – Gorgui Dieng/Tiago Splitter

35. John Collins – Cody Zeller/Jordan Hill

36. Jaron Blossomgame – Moe Harkless

37. Devonte Graham – Tyler Johnson

38. Dwayne Bacon – Ben McLemore/DeShawn Stevenson

39. Wesley Iwundu – Jonathon Simmons

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Posted on: Thu, 03/30/2017 - 6:45am #1094780

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1. Josh Jackson – Clyde Drexler/Shawn Marion
2. Lonzo Ball – John Wall/Manu Ginobili

3. De’Aaron Fox – Russell Westbrook/Jeff Teague

4. Markelle Fultz- Latrell Sprewell

5. Frank Ntilikina – Chauncey Billups/Jrue Holiday

6. Jayson Tatum – Steave Smith/Stephen Jackson

7. Lauri Markkanen – Rashard Lewis

8. Dennis Smith – Stephon Marbury

9. Jonathan Isaac – Tayshaun Prince/Rody Gay

10. Malik Monk – Monta Ellis/Zach LaVine

11. Miles Bridges – Richard Jefferson/Harison Barnes

12. Tyler Dorsey – Devin Booker

13. TJ Leaf – Shareef Abdur-Rahim/Trey Lyles

14. Bam Adebayo – Tristan Thompson/Antonio Davis

15. Jarrett Allen – Marcin Gortat/Elden Campbell

16. Zach Collins – Myles Turner/Cody Zeller

17. Johnathan Motley – Markieff Morris/Amir Johnson

18. John Collins – Vin Baker/Jordan Hill

19. Tony Bradley – Steven Adams

20. Justin Patton – Jonas Valanciunas/Alex Len

21. Allonzo Trier – Jamal Murray/Sean Kilpatrick

22. Luke Kennard – Allen Crabbe/Michael Redd

23. Justin Jackson – Sam Dekker/DeMarre Carroll

24. Jawun Evans – Nick Van Exel

25. Isaiah Hartenstein – Bobby Portis

26. Rodions Kurucs – Kelly Oubre

27. Tyler Lydon – Donyell Marshall/Davis Bertans

28. Ivan Rabb – Juwan Howard/Andrew Nicholson

29. Nigel Hayes – Anthony Mason/James Johnson

30. Donovan Mitchell – Victor Oladipo/Norman Powell

31. Grayson Allen – Mario Elie/Malcolm Brogdon
32. OG Anunoby – Patrick Patterson/Marvin Williams
33. Cam Oliver – JaMychal Green
34. Dillon Brooks – Rick Fox/Wilson Chandler
35. Josh Hart – Anthony Parker/Courtney Lee
36. Sindarius Thornwell – PJ Tucker/Marcus Thornton

37. Semi Ojeleye – Jeff Green
38. Dwayne Bacon – DeShawn Stevenson/Nick Young
39. Harry Giles – Clint Capela
40. Jordan Bell – Kenyon Martin/Jordan Mickey
41. PJ Dozier – Michael Carter-Williams
42. Nigel Williams Goss – Malcolm Delaney/Ramon Sessions
43. Melo Trimble – Mario Chalmers
44. Terrance Ferguson – Wesley Johnson
45. Zach LeDay – Malik Rose/Trevor Booker

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- Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2017 - 1:07pm #1095093
  
  ConsiderableUpside
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  I am very interested in your Fultz / Sprewell comparison. Would you please explain? I’m confused on that, seems way off. I am too young to have seen Sprewell play much anytime before his time with New York. The lockout season when it was Knicks versus Spurs is my earliest memory of really watching him play. I did hear somewhere that Spree played some point guard in Golden State however. Anyway I’d like to hear more. Not to start an argument necessarily, I’m just really curious.
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  - Posted on: Tue, 04/04/2017 - 3:29pm #1095098
    
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    Sprewell was a pure athlete, complete player, great scorer from many spots and levels on the floor, playmaker from the sg position but not a floor general, great combination of finesse and aggressiveness, great open floor player, I see Fultz having attributes that he should model his game like Sprewell…
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