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- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 1:09am #65834

For_Never_EverParticipantI think he should get rookie of the year. So far he has shown he is the best player from his draft until some player shows me otherwise. He is so imposing physically, and athletically. The player he physically compares well with is Iggy to me. Defensively he can guard multiple positions, and can really rebound the ball, and seems to get a block a game now.
He came in the league with a questioned jumper, but that so far been a strength of his, and it’s only going to get better. When his handles improves over time he can be a franchise guard. He has shown me promise in that area with between the legs cross overs, and a spin moves to the rim. If the Celtics miss out on getting a top two picks or decide not take a PG because of IT. I’ll still be siked out on the idea of Josh Jackson teaming up with him. They can potentially have the best future SG/SF combo in the league.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 1:45am #1093379
D7H7NParticipantDario Saric has been averaging 16.8/7.9/2.9 since February.
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 1:49am #1093380

For_Never_EverParticipantYou’re right, and I maybe got too ahead of myself. Saric looks to be a good player, while the future Jaylen potential is miles ahead and he is two yrs younger.
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 3:50am #1093384

Jr. ROXASParticipantI’m curious why you think Jaylen potential is "miles ahead". Is it because of athleticsm? Because guys like Kyrie and Kemba Walker proved that you can be super effective around the rim even if you’re not athletic. Saric lacks athleticsm, but he is so savvy around the rim. And the way he drives to the rack, he drives with a purpose. He makes the right pass and has elite footwork to work around bigger defenders.
I feel that sometimes, people tend to equate potential too much to athleticsm. If one isn’t athletic, then he has no potential. Obviously athleticsm helps, but it isn’t everything you need to be a starter in the league. I love Jaylen Brown, but to say his potential is miles ahead of Saric’s is stretching it.
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 9:56am #1093391

For_Never_EverParticipantI don’t consider those two guys unathletic. You don’t consider them quick or fast ? I have always considered speed a bigger factor than hops. What about Jaylen being two yrs younger, and playing on a better team ? Kevin love looked like a superstar on the wolves, but really was just a good player by my standards.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 8:08am #1093427
Dell87ParticipantDid you just say that kyrie and kemba are not athletic?!?!? . What NBA are you watching!?!? Smh
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 9:37pm #1093447
thetrademachineryParticipantactually you cant teach athleticsm, but you can teach skill. And by the definition of potential, it is the margin of growth one player can have. So Brown can get to the skillset of Saric, but Saric wont be as athletic as Brown, he hasnt much room to grow other than experience and maybe better decision making. So yes Brown has more potential there is nothing wrong with that.
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- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 10:48am #1093392

For_Never_EverParticipantI think you’re also taking me out of context because I didn’t make everything about athleticism.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 1:17pm #1093399
BeastMode716Participantfor Nerlens Noel & Robert Covington for that #3 pick in what will be remembered as the Worst Draft in 20 years.
And in a Draft that has produced so far Zero potentially great players Brown was considered the #10 prospect.
How much More Dangerous would Boston look today w/ Noel & Covington on that Playoff roster
instead of Brown, a hapless rookie w/ Poor fundamentals who only avgerages 6 pts & 2 rebounds in Mostly garbage time
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 3:59pm #1093407

BleedGreen808ParticipantI disagree with you completely. Noel and Covington might be better right now but after this season Boston would have had to pay to keep Noel. Also it isn’t fair to base Brown’s potential on his stats alone. He’s now playing over 20 minutes per game on a playoff team and has improved dramatically since the beginning of the season.
Not sure what you mean when you say most of his stats are coming in garbage time. He had been starting with Avery Bradley out. Even with him back he’s still one of the first players off the bench.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 10:36am #1093429
mamadouParticipantBrown earns every minute he plays in a winning team, they won 10 of the last 12 games he started.
Stevens played him SF-PF at the start of the season, then he understood he’s a SG-SF for them in a very small team, and it’s paying dividends.
For the record, because of IT there is very little garbage time for the celts this season, brown plays 13 minutes as a reserve…you’re not supposed to average 10 and 5 with that kind of PT.
The georges and butlers of the world didn’t.
He’s averaging 11+ pts when he plays 20+ minutes tho, you’d have a hard time finding a celts fan complaining about that.
Brown the 10th prospect…in your mind.
The words Covington, Noel, playoffs and fundamentals, there’s something wrong when you’re trying to destroy a rookie.
Convington won 50 games in his career, a 39% shooter, shaqtin a fool artist, Noel will be fine for the mavs, as an injury prone 20MD per player tho.
Concerning Saric, he’s a 6 years pro already, an euro star, he played eurobasket, world and olympics…sixers traded all the bigs they could, Embiid played 31 games, Simmons 0, TJ Mc Connell is their FP, sure Dario is delivering with 30 mins and 15 FGA…as Brown would in year 3.
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- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 2:14pm #1093402

Dog_ShammdogParticipanthow the hell is a dude NOT getting negged for using Kemba and Kyrie as examples of unathletic guards???? Both of them are incredible athletes. Kyrie plays with such poise and pace that his athleticism can get overlooked, but Kemba is a hot rod… Just bc a player doesn’t dunk with regularity doesn’t mean that they are unathletic by default.
0- Posted on: Sat, 03/04/2017 - 6:30pm #1093413

Jr. ROXASParticipantRight wtf?!?!?!??!?!!? That reaction. Lol.
I shouldn’t have said "not athletic", but rather, not among the most athletic players. Compare Kemba to a player everyone considers athletic like Westbrook. Westbrook with his jumping ability uses that to finish around defenders. Sure Kemba is fast, but he makes up for his lack of hops by being crafty around the rim. My bad at the wording.
And the point of my post was that players with average athleticsm should not always equate to having no potential. So, do you agree with me or not? Cus that’s what I’m interested in.
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- Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 5:55am #1093422

Mr. 19134ParticipantI was big on Brown before the draft and felt like he was in the same tier of prospect grade that Ingram, Murray, and Hield were in. Meaning I felt the Lakers should have given Brown, Ingram, Murray and Hield all equal consideration with the 2nd pick.
I agree his potential is extremely high and he’s not just athletic with a great build but exceptionally bright personally so his chances of reaching his ceiling are greater. I’m not really sure what his ceiling is but I think it’ll be setting similar to prime Latrell Sprewell.
With that said Dario Saric has clearly been the best rookie not named Embiid and hes taken control of the team and is still leading them to tough grind out wins as the first option while doing it all scoring, rebounding and assists at a high level.
After Saric Brodgan is clearly in 2nd place.
Then the most consistently impressive rookie would be either Marquess Chris or Jamal Murray.
Yes I understand Brown is doing it on a playoff team but it’s made his role easier to learn and handle. He hasn’t taken over multiple games the way Saric has or even Brodgan or Murray.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 11:59am #1093430
joe2324Participantsometimes I think Danny Ainge is on another level than everyone else. Brown has so much raw potential and hes a good guy too, smart as well. They get to rape the Nets for 2 more years and they’ll most likely add an even greater talent in Fultz or Ball. Then, next year, you have some nice talent as well.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/05/2017 - 9:16pm #1093445

mgreener_34ParticipantAs much as I love Jalen, he was the guy I wanted all along since the begining of last year, even I’m not going to say he is in ROY discussion. Saric and Brogden def. deserve it, as both are playing great basketball.
Brown was terrible at the begining of the year. And I mean he was badddd. Couldn’t keep up on D, offensive fouls gallor because he would just try to muscle his way to the hoop. Terrible passer.
But then Avery Bradley and Crowder got hurt, and he was inserted into the starting lineup to add some length, and boy did that do wonders for this kid. If he was on any other lottery team and playing 30 mpg he would probably be putting up respectable numbers.
As a starter for the #2 seed in the East Jalen is averaging 9/4/1/1 and shooting decent percentages. He’s getting to the line, and has made a bunch of clutch baskets down the stretch in a lot of games. His shooting was considered a weakness coming out, but it’s actually been a strength for him, and has opened up more opportunities for him to drive on guys. This is increasingly important when you take into account that he gets to the line a good amount for a rookie, and as most of us are aware, to be succesful as a scorer in this league, you have to get to the line, and make them.
Brown still has a long ways to go, but at this point I think he’s silenced the people who thought he was a bad pick at #3, and his quick developement and chemistry with the starters has really opened the door for the Celtics, and he gives a lot of us fans hope for a better tomorrow.
Jaylen, Smart, and whoever we pick in this years draft is going to be a great, intelligent, athletic core going forward.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 03/06/2017 - 1:08pm #1093495
markfitz14ParticipantBrown has made great improvments so far. He is a super hard worker and he seems to get better and better. Should be interesting to see the jump he can make next year if more playing time comes his way. I think he is showing he can be a starter. With being a guy that needed to learn I thinik he took alot from guys like Bradley and Crowder.
Brown made a top 10 play the other day where he caught n allyoop with his left hand then had to switch hands mid air to lay it in. I was really impressed. It showed some future potential to make some skillful lay ins. But right now that is his biggest weakness, finishing around the basket. He misses tons of layups. Hopefully IT will show him the magic touch there lol. I think he will get the feel to finish those drives to the basket that he does so well. Then the sky is the limit.
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