CAN PEOPLE STOP

I’ll stop bashing them when the make the playoffs. lol.

Dhamp = the new Hubie Brown….the name you can trust….Smoother than Doug Collins balding head.

Truth.

I dont mind it once in a while, i expect it..
But, you guys do know that there are 29 other teams in the league, right?

I just thought of that what if they get nothing thing as a scenario. I am in no way a knicks hater!

i’m not a knick fan and i can see how frustrating that must be to see the hate on them. you can thank ryan cook

hahahha

Knicks Suck we All Know it………This isn’t debatable ……so we should stop posting stuff about them making the playoffs or even people hating……lets just wait till 2010 like all knick fans say

I don’t know anything about basketball Knicksboy? Well, school is in session! What would you like to know.

I consider my very educated in all facets of basketball, so think of me as a pundit. From an ostensible view, you don’t know too much. And you often display persnickity behavior on the site. But, advancing to my premise: ASK away.

Dhamp = the new Hubie Brown….the name you can trust….Smoother than Doug Collins balding head.

knicks suck… they will get nothing but a top-3 pick in 2010.

spencerishawesome- The Knicks future looks a lot better than the Kings. LMAO

Dont have a pick 2010, get your information correct before you say a team sucks, spencerishawesome

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If you feel like the Knicks suck, okay your entitled to your opinion, but they cant be the ONLY team that sucks..

LMAOLOLROFL

Suck idk why there are such a storied franchise… what they had patrick ewing?

Because its fucking New York, Big City, Big Market, Big Money

Knicks post r we gonna have taday??

i dont know… there’s this team in California.. i think they have purple and black for colors.. i root for them sometimes

Knicksboys- spencerishawesomes’ favorite teams is the Kings….. so he can’t say sh*t

My point has been made! The Knicks suck, as expressed by everyone on this post. Knicksboy refused to ask a question. I’ll holla.

Dhamp = the new Hubie Brown….the name you can trust….Smoother than Doug Collins balding head.

I will say this about the KINGS:

The only good thing going for that team is Tyreke Evans & Kevin Martin

Nocioni- pure garbage
Garcia- solid backup at best
Hawes- overrated already
Thompson- overrated already
Greene- bust

knicks suck *****

im good at this nickname stuff

This thread is corrupted with all the hate.

My team is the Denver Nuggets. Any more questions?

Dhamp = the new Hubie Brown….the name you can trust….Smoother than Doug Collins balding head.

I will say this everytime the Knick hold for money for talent they generally get players because people want to be in New York. Stephen Curry was visibly upset that he got drafted a pick before New York picked. Players want to go there but they have not had money. They are also better than last year’s team which one 32 games. I see them winning 38 but then again they may not be enough this year but in the East maybe it will. 38 wins with this group means that when they add some stars they should be a playoff team. Last time they signed some players and made some nice trades and pick ups they went to the Finals when Ewing was hurt most of the year. That is why the Knicks are reloading because they only sucked that long because they had no money and kept making stupid trades and pick ups. They may have drafted well but they traded a lot of what they drafted. They have some talent on this team and they run a great system for the East. That system Mike D runs should give them a least an extra 10 wins then their talent would get alone. I am not a Knick fan but I have a friend who is and we talk about the Knicks a lot. We both are hoping they can get Sessions or Miller.

LAKERS!!!! Just thought i should give a shout out

Dhamp your team is Denver and with one trade they went from barelly making the playoffs to giving the Lakers who won it all a run for their money.

Dhamp you of all people should know how much one move or getting the right player can help a young talented team. Galinari will be like a Bargina type player and for the pick Knicks made that is not bad. Also European players tend to stay in the same spot for a while with the exception of Hedo. Blame his wife.

Don’t get it twisted. Houston beat LA almost as many times as every other team in the playoffs combined with the least amount of talent by far. And Denver blew Game 1 against the Lakers. Completely. But look on the bright side. Dahntay isn’t there to f*ck up that inbounds pass anymore.

Hill I take you dont like the Kings at all lol.

chowaski please address people’s name because I have no idea if you are talking to me or someone else.

Sheltwon- I have nothing against the Kings..I wish them the best.. I often root for the underdog. I just don’t like the direction they are headed in. I was just crushing the Kings because a Kings’ fan was bashing the Knicks. I don’t see how somebody can make fun of a team for being bad when their own favorite team is just as bad.

eh, he was asking for it

Don’t know what MLE really means, I’m sure he probably don’t know what Bird Rights are, and I KNOW he don’t know the impact a 55 million dollar salary cap have one the Knicks in 2010… He feels like LBJ is the ONLY franchise player in the NBA (LOL) and the ONLY one in 2010 that will receive a MAX deal. LOL… too funny… Name the last two players that came together, SIGNED (not traded) to a team on Max deals? Please name them… Because it just don’t happen… Knick fans needs to understand this BEFORE 2010 wraps up and they are licking their chops about “WHO” they are going to get…

I was talking to you Sheltwon but I wasn’t putting you down or anything. Denver got better with Billups I agree. All I was saying was LA lost 7 games in the playoffs and Houston beat them 3 times with literally nobody. I was just questioning the statement that Denver gave LA a run for their money. If they won Game 1 I think they could have but they kind of folded that last game and went out pretty quietly.

Definately Dhamp is a joke, he still thinks the Lakers are going to 3-peat. Anotha front runner what else u predicting Sasha Vujacic 6th man of the year.

What year is Dwight Howard a free agent?

I don’t think Dwight is leaving orlando for a long time…

I know. I am asking because I know he will get a maz deal but they already have a player with a maz deal in Lewis. I wonder how that will affect their team.

Denver did give LA a run for their money. I never said that Denver played them the toughest. The comment was not even meant to bring up debate on who played the Lakers the toughest. It was to show DHamp that added one player can turn a team from bottom to the top and the Knick should be close to the playoffs this year which means one star player could change that and people want to go to New York.
There was nothing I got twisted homie. Please read what I am writing and not change the context of it.

Sheltwon, I’m not sold on Galinari. To me, he’s the next Nikolo Tsvilkei.

Now, one player can make a big difference, hence Rahseed Wallace being traded to Detroit. But how many passes should the Knicks get. They still haven’t landed the one man. Maurice Taylor, Francis, Jalen Rose, McDyess, heck they gave JEROME JAMES $40 MIL. HA HA HA

As for you Knicks2020, the Lakers will 3 peat. Write it down.

Dhamp…the most popular user on this site.

If Lakers get Odom back it is possibly for them to 3 peat, the team that would give them the most trouble are pretty old and have less of a window. Boston and San Antonio are their biggest threat to me right now. Orlando got better if some ways but the Lakers will not play them as poorly as they did the year before. The only team that Lakers ever had issues with year after year was San Antonio and several time they beat them handily. Also Orlando has to get past Boston and Cleveland and Cleveland has grudge match. If Orlando see Cleveland they will lose this year. It always happens except for Washington when a team has a grugde match the team that lost the year before will get the better of the other team the following year. There may be more time where this didnt happen but these are the more recent ones i can remember.

Boogala Boogala

Well Dhamp one of us will be right and the other will be wrong so we will have to see. The Knicks have been making some great moves lately and even you have to give them credit for that.

Denver was going to win it all this year and then got ghost when I called you out on it… LOL…

But I really feel like MJ got his Pippen and its hard to see any team beating the Lakers… Artest gives damn near every player in the league headaches… LeBron, Carter, and Paul Peirce… 3 players each team needs in order to beat the Lakers… If the Lakers stay healthy and sign Odom back, I’m sorry I don’t see how he’s wrong…

next niko? except while playing injured and limited minutes hes already put up better numbers than that guy has in his career and proven that he has one of the purest strokes in the nba. The guy made his first 20 something free throws in the nba, i know that’s not much but it just shows hes a good shooter. He also says all the right things how he wants to do w/e it takes to be great. Im tellin you this kid has star written all over him as long as he can stay healthy. The thing that might hold him back is if he becomes injury prone but im hoping thats not the case.

Now, one player can make a big difference, hence Rahseed Wallace being traded to Detroit. But how many passes should the Knicks get. They still haven’t landed the one man. Maurice Taylor, Francis, Jalen Rose, McDyess, heck they gave JEROME JAMES $40 MIL. HA HA HA

Right but those were Layden/Isiah moves since when is Walsh making moves like this he didn’t want Galinari that was D’antoni and his love for Euro’s. Thankfully they didn’t draft another one this year.

Lakers won’t 3 peat this year they have a good shot to win if Odom returns.

If Lakers get Odom back, I just find it hard for anyone to stop them when Bynum can only get better and Lakers won with him not doing much. I doubt he will get hurt a third straight. Also Shannon Brown is another stuff physical defender. The Lakers have gotten better and tougher. Also Kobe may not have been as well rested as he tells people with everything he did with the Olympics and all. This year he got to rest. It will be hard for any team to beat them let alone do it for 7 games. I will do this if they stay healthy there is no way the dont get a 3peat. There is no other team on their talent level right now when you factor age offense and defense.

Why do you guys get worked up over the Knicks and Kings. The only thing is both of them need help. They suck right now. In 2020, one of them could win a championship. End the story.

Knicks could possibly do it before then though but probably a few year after the current lakers get too old.

With or without Odom….no way the Lakers 3 peat. The Spurs are going to beat them this year.

Making bold statements like that just shows your stupidity… NO WAY? I was always told, you shouldn’t ever say “Never” and you shouldn’t ever say the word “hate”… And by saying NO WAY is damn near saying Never… So, that case you must be great at stocks or suck at it… Either way I KNOW you took A LOT of loses… And in NO WAY (yes I said it) I will trust you with my money or country… LOL… You have no future thinking like that constantly….

OK tuck- if the Lakers do 3 peat feel free to rub it in my face.

this conversation dropped me from +4 to -27… now i got to go around and plus all my posts and minus everyone elses to help me out

Didn’t you give us a “D Hamp garauntee” that devo would get drafted? And that he will play on a NBA team? Why should we take any of you garauntees I anything to say for that matter seriously?

You obviously didnt watch Gallinari play last year, I watched every game. Go look at his stats, and keep in mind he had a bad back. Ill admit at times he looks slow, but the same can be said for Paul Peirce, hes crafty.

boogaboogala?

Who cares if “the knicks suck” or “the kings suck”. They both suck and there are a lot of teams that suck. Who cares? Everyone is here to talk NBA, not ****. so please just stop it all together. just stop talking about it altogether.

…the Knicks will get somebody. For one they have the money, but again pretty much all the teams have money since their owners are billionaires so strike that point. Say what you want about Dolan, but at least he’s not tight and stingy, he just needs to put some better people in charge and not be so eager to hand out his money. You have to love his “get me this guy at all costs” approach. The big basketball cities will never have trouble bringing in guys. Even if they don’t get Lebron, they’ll land someone, just hopefully they don’t overpay. Playing in the Garden is a big deal. For whoever said, the Knicks only had Patrick Ewing, that is a big slight to the history there. There is a lot more to the Knicks history than one man and they have had some great players over the years. I guarantee if it wasn’t for Michael Jordan, they would have been the prime beneficiaries of a few of those Bulls championships.

Everyone needs to relax and understand that every team goes through down times. Make your occasional joke, but if we really want to we can find something to knock about every team in the league.

Dhamp honestly, the Knicks have a better shot at winning the championship then the Nuggets in the near future the Nuggets will be lucky to be the fourth seed in the west this year ill take the lakers, spurs, mavs over them, and its going to be a battle for them the nuggets are a nice team but they havent improved since Billups, sure he will have been there for that extra year but they havent improved much and if they make it to the Western Finals i will be surprised. billups is getting up there in age and wont play forever. anthony will and should leave when he is a FA, and the Knicks are likely to cash in on the FA class of 2010. Seriously, who doesnt want to play in the greatest city in the world?

Spurs dont have enough firepower to beat the Lakers unless we lose Odom to a Western Conference team.

What about the PG matchup though. Parker has a big edge over Fisher. Jefferson & Artest are pretty even in my eyes. Kobe has an edge over Ginboli but not by as much as people think. Also Duncan will cause Gasol & Bynum trouble. Spurs have quality players on the bench too. Finley is experienced, Mason makes clutch shots, Bonner is a smart player, Blair is a great rebounder, George Hill is really underrated. Hill is a great backup to Parker IMO. Hill is much better than Farmar or Brown. Overall I think the Spurs have a slight edge.

dejuicebox please never say that again, the nuggets are 10 times better than the knicks. dont say they are going to win in the near future, if your praying for them to get lebron in 2010. with the team they got now, the knicks probably wont make the playoffs in the east. and the nuggets will be sumwhere between 2nd and 5th in the west. so dont say they have a beter chance of winning in the near fiture. you have to go deep in the playoffs before you can say that. and as for the hate on d hamp, im confident in saying he knows more than most you guys on here. he gets a little crazy once in a while with some stuff once in a while. (example:devo)but knicksboy he’ll take you to school with basketball talk

lmao riks ik the knicks wont win next year but you really think Carmelo will stay in denver for his career? look at most NBA dynastys, Lakers, Celts, Bulls all happen in big cities with the exception of SA, Anthony will never win in Denver they will not win a championship within the next decade, they may have made the finals but everyone around them improved, the knicks are going to get somebody it doesnt have to be Lebron James they have money and they will get to the playoffs in the year 10-11 no doubt about it and whoever they get will help them become contenders the Nuggets will have a few decent years as “pretend contenders” sure they can get a 2 seed but nobody sees them beating the Lakers or Spurs, they wont win a championship while the Knicks likely will at least make it to the NBA finals once they get their team together after signing some FA’s next year

some one said i started the knick hating. stupid.
i made a post and it was the six teams i thought would not make the playoffs. the knicks were one of those teams. then 25 enraged knick fans had to give me their biased opinion. i argued that they are clearly one of the three worst teams in the east. they took offense and are now crying about it.

they are a horrible franchise. Scott Layden was the worst gm i had ever seen. He paid franchise money to guy’s like Howard Eisley, Shandon Andersen, and Keith Van Horn all because they were from his hometown of Utah, and the owner did nothing about it.

Then the knicks hired Isiah Thomas who did his best job of beating Layden as the worst gm ever. And he was succesful. He gave All-star money to Jerome james, Eddy Curry, Stephon Marbury, and a whole bunch of average players like Steve Francis. Isiah was garbage.

The knicks are a joke and only NY fans are dumb ebough to not realize it.

The ‘hate’ is b/c of the notion that things are more important b/c it has to do with New York. The notion that Lebron would go to NY at all costs, totally bypassing the truth of their roster.

I mean, have any of you ever been to Miami? But NY is where its at? Word?

Its gon hurt when yall suck this year, get the #1 pick, and that pick isnt even yours. It goes to Utah.

On that note: http://www.nbadraft.net/node/9630

knicks stock is rising, kings stock same as last year, nuggets stock same as last year. its not hard to see that knicks get 2 quality players in the draft and are losing most of their bad contracts. kings will have best chance at lottery again. denver loses dahntay jones but gets lawson so it amounts to a similar record. the key this year is phoenix, loses slow big man, young players have more experience, amare is back, and they added earl clark. look for 55 wins and a top 3 seed.

How is the Kings stock the same as last year? They’ve added Tryeke Evans, Kevin Martin is healthy(people forget he missed the first 2 months of the season), JT has a year under his belt, and Hawes now has some starting experience(post all-star break he averaged 13.8ppg, 8.5 rbg, 2.5 apg).. They should improve on their 17 wins to an almost kind of maybe respectable 25!

The Knicks right now don’t have Nate or Lee.. If they lose those 2 then at best their stock is the same, but realistically it is somewhat lower and they could end up with about 25 wins! (If they re-sign both then I’d go with about 35-38.. If they re-sign one then probably about 30-32 same as last yr)

The Kings still have no real leadership and no real playmaker.

25 wins is a good estimate.

the kings stock is the same because all they added to the worst team in the league is a 20 year old combo guard who is nowhere ready to lead a team. ex. memphis adds oj mayo(better than evans) AND marc gasol and still are top 5 lotto team. sorry spencerhawes you wont win more than 22 games and ya thats is a 5 game improvement but does it matter when you finish 30 or more games out of first place? no. the knicks are being smart about their money. why overpay for a 5’8″ SG and a 6’9″ PF who cant shoot and is a product of a system.

you start off by basically saying unless your a playoff team or very close to it, your stock is the same.. then go on to say how the knicks who aren’t a playoff team stock rises even though they lost more than they gained

Kings- Add Tyreke Evans, who has done nothing but impress in the summer league and cant possibly be worst than beno.. their stock is the same

Knciks-Lose double-double machine David Lee and Nate Robinson, add Jordan Hill… Their stock rises.

Your reason? Knicks are being smart with their money… And somehow the Kings aren’t??

the kings are going from garbage to garbage. they have beno udrih on the books for like 4 or 5 more years. they have kenny thomas, terrible contract. they draft poorly, soft bigmen with no athleticism. they just cant get any worse and they definately arent better. the knicks find ways to get rid of bad contracts, have a solid plan, and draft very well for the most part. i dont like jordan hill but atleast he can move quickly and if they lose lee i see hill as a top 3 ROY candidate putting up similar numbers as lee did. chicago didnt want their 6’2″ SG in ben gordan, why would the knicks want to overpay for a smaller less talented version. and as long as they dont overpay for a guy like ramon sessions, who would be an upgrade over nate, i would say their stock is rising. and i hope the kings the best but its obvious they are miles away from contending while the knicks are a improving team that with their plan and some luck could be a force in 2 years.