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JoeWolf1 9 years, 9 months ago.
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- Posted on: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 11:22am #65041
high floorParticipantMudiay’s critics are pretty divisive when it comes to forecasting his ceiling. In 30 minutes per game last year, Mudiay slashed 13/3.4/5.5 with 3.2 turnovers and a 67% mark from the free throw line… while owning a ghastly 43.5% true shooting percentage that ranked 345 out of 350 qualifying players. He was just 19 years old the majority of his rookie season.
Not great at first glance. But he did manage to improve his FG percentage to 40% after the all-star break, and averaged 2.1 three pointers per game in March & April… while cutting his turnovers down to 2.5 per game during that sample as well. He’s got awesome size for the PG position, standing 6’5 and weighing over 200lbs with great speed & athleticism to boot. I was also impressed with his vision at times too, particularly in the open floor.
His path to 33+ minutes per game is a little murkey at the moment, since Denver has such a crowded backcourt with newly drafted Jamal Murray, Gary Harris, Will Barton, Malik Beasley & several courtesy minutes for Jameer Nelson each night too. But I like Mudiay to improve on his efficiency and shooting, & show some naysayers his upside in the process. His defensive potential is what lures me in the most, and I think that aspect of his game places his ceiling in the 7-11 range in his prime on the NBA point guard ranks.
Just concerning next season though, I’ll predict the following stat line for Mudiay in 2016-17:
14.5 pts, 3.5 rebs, 6 assists, 3.0 turnovers, 41%FG, 75% FT’s, 34% Threes
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 4:38pm #1086475
ph90702His ceiling is top five point guard.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/14/2016 - 5:58pm #1086477
Hype MachineHis ceiling is Reggie Jackson
0 - Posted on: Thu, 09/15/2016 - 9:09pm #1086501
LiviaSusanParticipantMudiay was the top ranked point guard and his ceiling is ultimate.
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0 - Posted on: Sat, 09/17/2016 - 8:31pm #1086537
Pro-21ParticipantThe point guard position is so, so deep, it’s hard for me to see Mudiay being anything but a solid starter — ie, Reggie Jackson. He’s more functionally athletic and talented overall, but his FG% was just worse than abysmal. Not sure it’s surmountable tbh.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 09/18/2016 - 11:52pm #1086573
NBAjunkie81ParticipantIf Mudiay had went to SMU he would have possibly been the #2 pick.People seem to believe that Any player who can not shoot a 3 point shot from a guard to a center has No place in the NBA
Michael Jordan’s Lifetime 3 pt% Average is 32.7% – after his first 4 years in the NBA Jordan’s 3 pt% average was 16.4%
16.4% from 3 pt range for the first 4 years in the NBA……. If Jordan were a Rookie today we would be told that h’es a great scorer but not a guy you could build a team around.
Mudiay at 17 was a Leader on a professional team in China & 25-30 y/o men respected him b/c he can do just about anything on the court. He’s a lockdown defender. He has Great size at 6’5” 200 lbs. He’s got freakish athletic ability & explosiveness. He can get to the Rim at will & he is an unselfish pass first legit PG who other players will Luv playing with b/c he is a facilitator.
0- Posted on: Fri, 09/23/2016 - 7:36am #1086671
JoeWolf1You can’t really make the correlation between Jordan, or anyone who came up in the high school or college ranks before 1987 to modern day guys when talking about the 3 point line. There was simply no incentive to shoot that far away on a regular basis, and coaching/practice styles reflected this.
Jordan didn’t play with a 3 point line until his rookie year in the NBA as the NCAA didn’t adopt the 3 point line until 1986 and high school ball until 1987, so really, it was until the high school class of 1991 before a group of players played with the line for 4 years of high school ball, and their entire college career.
When looking at a modern guy coming in with low shooting percentages, you’re looking at a guy who played with a 3 point line since he was in diapers. It’s a little different than a guy playing without the line in High School, playing without the line in college, for an old school coach, in Dean Smith, and then coming into the league and having to make that adjustment.
Looking at the 84′ draft class, only Sam Perkins and John Stockton shot over 35% on their careers from downtown, with even John Stockton (career 388%) shooting below 20% from deep during his first 3 seasons. By the time you get to the mid 1990’s draft classes as full of guys shooting over 35% on their careers due to taking these reps there entire lives, and befitting for the 3 pointer not just being a new novelty shots. In 1995 you have 5 guys with career 3 point percentages over 35%, 9 in 1996, 13 in 1997, and by the time the 2005 draft rolled around 10 years later you had 18 at that clip.
There is no correlation between MJ shooting under 20% during his first 3 seasons, and Mudiay being a bad shooter today. Their experience with the line was completely different.
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- Posted on: Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:01am #1086582
MatosParticipantI actually think Mudiay has an exctremely high ceiling. He will learn how to shoot the ball. He has the mechanics. He just needs to leanr to control the ball better which will come with time. At 19, he had an impressive year and will only get better. I did think Sacramento messed up big time picking WCS over him. Huge mistake.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/20/2016 - 12:01pm #1086609
DanielcmccartyParticipantProbably a little better then Jrue Holiday because of his athleticism, Top 6-7 at best. I dont think he has the vision or playmaking to be a top 5 point guard, Not to say he doesnt have good vision or playmaking ability, but I would say he wont ever be a top 5 PG because those two instinctive skills arent elite for him.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/21/2016 - 1:40am #1086613
HitsterParticipantMudiay is only 20 years old and has a load of upside, to predict where he will be in a few years is hard. But he was given the keys to his team so is learning on the job, his 3 point range isn’t really and issue to me, but his field goal shooting does need to improve. Also I’d want to see his assist numbers improve season on season, I’d hope he could be nearer 7apg this coming year.
Denver haven’t had a go to scorer since Melo was traded so Mudiay will have to be a facilitator for the whole team which should improve his passing range too. He has good size for a PG so will be a useful rebounder and he’ll improve his turnover ratio with experience and his speed gives him a nice chance of steals.
As regards his 3pt shooting, it is a nice weapon for a pass first PG to have but isn’t the main part of his game. Hopefully Mudiay can work on his mid range game and get his FG % up to a decent level as his shooting will be key to Denver with them not having a go to scorer.
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