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- Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 9:13pm #64706
Celtics3178ParticipantDemarcus cousins is clearly unhappy with what’s going on with the organization. They’ve lost 8 players from there team last year and drafted a bunch of big men. If your the Kings it’s time to clean house and trade cousins and gay. does anyone have any ideas on how to fix them. My idea is bold but it might work. Trade gay to the twolves for Ricky Rubio. This gives the twolves a veteran winag in Gay who can come off the bench and score play the 3 or 4 in small ball and is a thibs player. Trade Kosta and collinson to the magic and receive vucevic. This gives the magic a solid backup big man on a good salary and a solid back up guard for a team trying to make the playoffs. They then trade Demarcus cousins to the nuggets for Gallanari and 2017 unprotected first pick and a unprotected 2019 pick. This gives the Kings a foreign core of Rubio, Vucevic and Gallinario. I’ve always joked with friends that a small market team would start going after foreigners and I could actually see Divac doing something like this. As ridiculous as it seems and I know it seems ridiculous all the salaries work. I know I’m gonna get ripped apart but if you got a better idea lets hear it.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 10:02pm #1084280
Ahkasi ClayParticipantmaybe it is time to start again,
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 10:02pm #1084103
Ahkasi ClayParticipantmaybe it is time to start again,
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 10:02pm #1084115
Ahkasi ClayParticipantmaybe it is time to start again,
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0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:08pm #1084294
Robb_CParticipantMove the team to Seattle problem fixed.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:08pm #1084119
Robb_CParticipantMove the team to Seattle problem fixed.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:58am #1084200
LovebugParticipantThe only thing that does is steal a team from a fanbase, which I’m sure a dolt like you understands
Cities don’t make team decisions
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:58am #1084211
LovebugParticipantThe only thing that does is steal a team from a fanbase, which I’m sure a dolt like you understands
Cities don’t make team decisions
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:58am #1084375
LovebugParticipantThe only thing that does is steal a team from a fanbase, which I’m sure a dolt like you understands
Cities don’t make team decisions
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:08pm #1084130
Robb_CParticipantMove the team to Seattle problem fixed.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:43pm #1084300
llperezJust keep plugging away trying to add talent. You still have cousins locked up for 2 more seasons, trading him for draft picks, especially since he improves whatever team he goes to, seems like a bad idea. I mean if you want to trade him for draft picks, wait until the lottery is announced and then shop him to teams that already have a high pick instead of gambling with future picks that could end up in the 20’s for all we know.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:43pm #1084125
llperezJust keep plugging away trying to add talent. You still have cousins locked up for 2 more seasons, trading him for draft picks, especially since he improves whatever team he goes to, seems like a bad idea. I mean if you want to trade him for draft picks, wait until the lottery is announced and then shop him to teams that already have a high pick instead of gambling with future picks that could end up in the 20’s for all we know.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 11:43pm #1084136
llperezJust keep plugging away trying to add talent. You still have cousins locked up for 2 more seasons, trading him for draft picks, especially since he improves whatever team he goes to, seems like a bad idea. I mean if you want to trade him for draft picks, wait until the lottery is announced and then shop him to teams that already have a high pick instead of gambling with future picks that could end up in the 20’s for all we know.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 12:48am #1084306
NBAjunkie81Participantthat’s step #1….. The Kings just finished their 10th straight losing season…… They ahve given away their 1st round pick or their position in 2017 & 2019 to Phila….
It looks like Cousins is going to leave no matter what…… so the Kings are going to struggle for the next 3 or 4 years anyway……… They might as well hire someone who can Stack future 1st round picks & understands how use Leverage & play Poker in Trades & Drafts
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 12:48am #1084131
NBAjunkie81Participantthat’s step #1….. The Kings just finished their 10th straight losing season…… They ahve given away their 1st round pick or their position in 2017 & 2019 to Phila….
It looks like Cousins is going to leave no matter what…… so the Kings are going to struggle for the next 3 or 4 years anyway……… They might as well hire someone who can Stack future 1st round picks & understands how use Leverage & play Poker in Trades & Drafts
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 5:07am #1084179
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantVlade has been in the job for a year. At this point in Hinkie’s time in Philadelphia, he drafted Nerlens Noel because he was entralled by an "upside" that didn’t include any offensive skills, bulk, or two working knees.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:04am #1084188
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantBut to question Sam Hinkie’s decision to TRADE for NOEL and the draft pick that became Dario Saric and a lost 1st round via the BYNUM fiasco (done under the watchful eye of Doug Collins and Ed Stefanski BTW)
Sam Hinkie actually DRAFTED the eventually ROTY in MCW 11th Overall, check your facts
He traded away damaged goods in Jrue Holiday(who has missed more time than Noel in that time span BTW)
And he got back Noel (who had a very good rookie season after returning from an injury, in fact only a few other rookies every averaged as many Points/Rebounds/Blocks/Steals and Assist, a list that includes David Robinson amongst others, The Admiral missed his first season due to his military obligations as well, don’t think San Antonio regrets letting him sit a year)
People have this wierd obseesion with Sam Hinkie, that they just fail to see the facts…
Fact is he wanted to Trade Holiday for Olapido/Porter/Noel or Bennett, AB went 1st overall and Olapido and Porter were grabbed right after him, Noel was considered the #1 Prospect before he got injured, and I would argue that aside from VO he’s had the most productive career thus far, AB is a bust and OP is just now learning how to play a specific role
Fact is he wanted to Draft Andrew Wiggins to pair up with MCW and Noel but the Cavs won another #1 Pick and picked up Wiggins only to trade him to Sota for K Love, if Embiid had not been injured many say he’d be the Cavs pick and who knows if they make the K Love trade…Parker would have likely been the pick had the injury gods not been so cruel to Joel and the 76ers…Lets see how well Embiid plays, or if he never really plays as some cynics would still say…
Can you really blame him for taking Jahlil Okafor 3rd overall, after the Lakers took a chance on Russell?
Who would you have drafted ahead of him, Mudiay? Booker? I love Devin Booker but no one had him as a Top 3 pick in the year of KAT, Okafor and Porzingas…
Speaking of Kristaps, people seem to forget that Sam Hinkie and his tanking contingent are the ones who first began the Porzingas hype train, he was trying to draft him the year he landed Saric (Dario himself pulled out the year prior and Sam landed him a year later)
Sam Hinkie actually wanted a roster built around MCW/Wiggins/Saric/Porzingas/Noel…Too bad the NBA has a lottery system that actually prevents teams from build their roster up with best Prospects, a team like Cleveland jumps several spots and throws a monkey wrench in a struggling team’s plan…
So Both Teams Played Hard, while I respect your cynical POV on occassion, you may want to rethink your stance on Hinkie, especially in regards to him TRADING Holiday for Noel+Saric+1st round pick back from Orlando
He drafted ROY MCW, traded him for a potential Top 5 Pick in 2017 (A Guard heavy draft) What has MCW done but make the Bucks take a step back after he arrived, again Facts!!!
He Drafted Joel Embiid and Dario Saric, who will finally make their debuts this season, jury is still out, but I’d take that duo any day of the week…
He drafted Jahlil Okafor after his Front Office all but fired him on the spot for suggesting they take Porzingas, Okafor still ends up on the All Rookie Team and nearly averged 20 and 10 on 50% shooting, the kid was the #1 pick his whole HS career and wins a National Championship his freshman year yet the world turns on him once he’s taken by the 76ers…
Sam Hinkie gets ousted and the 76ers finally win the #1 pick and Draft Ben Simmons, again what timing…
Lets just wait and see what happens in Philadelphia…
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:54am #1084217
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantFirst off, my comment is more about Vlade being one year into a job at what has been a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade. For all the talent DeMarcus Cousins has, he has been proven to an incredibly difficult player to build around. A GM, or whatever fancy title a defacto GM has, does not get an open-ended timeframe, but they deserve more than one year. To your boy Hinkie, the problem is that after three years there was no vision. There was no picture coming into focus. No tough decisions were made, and it boggles my mind that this cowardice gets called intelligence, and such extreme deferring of the necessary decisions to build a team gets overlooked. Sam Hinkie was allowed to embark on a rebuilding effort. Nobody faults a team that crapped out by either making bad moves or victims of bad luck from deciding to rebuild. That said. on what planet does tearing something down get rewarded to the extent his fanboys want? The important part of the job was to build. After three years, the hype and hope is still about picks amd players who haven’t stepped foot on an NBA court. Do you know if Brett Brown is a good coach? Do you know how they want to play? Picks and cap space are great until they have names. Timothe Luwawu of the Serbian League and Furkan Korkmaz of 8 minutes per in Turkey are names. Jerryd Bayless, Gerald Henderson, and Sergio Rodriguez were the free agents who accepted contract offers. But, in the end, isn’t that the trick he pulled? Hinkie never has to live with names, reality, or tough decisions. He had deferrals.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 10:44am #1084451
benny15Participantwhat sam hinkie did was sell hope, their local media bought it and the fan base ate it up. with all their fans talk of wanting to win and not being okay with being bad, they really dont mind being atrocious, tanking and trying be historically bad so long as its attached with hope.
even if ben simmons blows his knee, nerlens never develops an offensive game, embiid turns into another oden, jahlil strugles to put numbers on a winning team or saric fails to translate on the nba game, sixer fans will still feel that the past 3 seasons is better than the 2 seasons that they had Andre Miller and made the play-offs because there was no hope for a championship then and what they went through the past 3 seasons has.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 10:44am #1084276
benny15Participantwhat sam hinkie did was sell hope, their local media bought it and the fan base ate it up. with all their fans talk of wanting to win and not being okay with being bad, they really dont mind being atrocious, tanking and trying be historically bad so long as its attached with hope.
even if ben simmons blows his knee, nerlens never develops an offensive game, embiid turns into another oden, jahlil strugles to put numbers on a winning team or saric fails to translate on the nba game, sixer fans will still feel that the past 3 seasons is better than the 2 seasons that they had Andre Miller and made the play-offs because there was no hope for a championship then and what they went through the past 3 seasons has.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 10:44am #1084287
benny15Participantwhat sam hinkie did was sell hope, their local media bought it and the fan base ate it up. with all their fans talk of wanting to win and not being okay with being bad, they really dont mind being atrocious, tanking and trying be historically bad so long as its attached with hope.
even if ben simmons blows his knee, nerlens never develops an offensive game, embiid turns into another oden, jahlil strugles to put numbers on a winning team or saric fails to translate on the nba game, sixer fans will still feel that the past 3 seasons is better than the 2 seasons that they had Andre Miller and made the play-offs because there was no hope for a championship then and what they went through the past 3 seasons has.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:54am #1084230
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantFirst off, my comment is more about Vlade being one year into a job at what has been a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade. For all the talent DeMarcus Cousins has, he has been proven to an incredibly difficult player to build around. A GM, or whatever fancy title a defacto GM has, does not get an open-ended timeframe, but they deserve more than one year. To your boy Hinkie, the problem is that after three years there was no vision. There was no picture coming into focus. No tough decisions were made, and it boggles my mind that this cowardice gets called intelligence, and such extreme deferring of the necessary decisions to build a team gets overlooked. Sam Hinkie was allowed to embark on a rebuilding effort. Nobody faults a team that crapped out by either making bad moves or victims of bad luck from deciding to rebuild. That said. on what planet does tearing something down get rewarded to the extent his fanboys want? The important part of the job was to build. After three years, the hype and hope is still about picks amd players who haven’t stepped foot on an NBA court. Do you know if Brett Brown is a good coach? Do you know how they want to play? Picks and cap space are great until they have names. Timothe Luwawu of the Serbian League and Furkan Korkmaz of 8 minutes per in Turkey are names. Jerryd Bayless, Gerald Henderson, and Sergio Rodriguez were the free agents who accepted contract offers. But, in the end, isn’t that the trick he pulled? Hinkie never has to live with names, reality, or tough decisions. He had deferrals.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:54am #1084393
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantFirst off, my comment is more about Vlade being one year into a job at what has been a dysfunctional franchise for almost a decade. For all the talent DeMarcus Cousins has, he has been proven to an incredibly difficult player to build around. A GM, or whatever fancy title a defacto GM has, does not get an open-ended timeframe, but they deserve more than one year. To your boy Hinkie, the problem is that after three years there was no vision. There was no picture coming into focus. No tough decisions were made, and it boggles my mind that this cowardice gets called intelligence, and such extreme deferring of the necessary decisions to build a team gets overlooked. Sam Hinkie was allowed to embark on a rebuilding effort. Nobody faults a team that crapped out by either making bad moves or victims of bad luck from deciding to rebuild. That said. on what planet does tearing something down get rewarded to the extent his fanboys want? The important part of the job was to build. After three years, the hype and hope is still about picks amd players who haven’t stepped foot on an NBA court. Do you know if Brett Brown is a good coach? Do you know how they want to play? Picks and cap space are great until they have names. Timothe Luwawu of the Serbian League and Furkan Korkmaz of 8 minutes per in Turkey are names. Jerryd Bayless, Gerald Henderson, and Sergio Rodriguez were the free agents who accepted contract offers. But, in the end, isn’t that the trick he pulled? Hinkie never has to live with names, reality, or tough decisions. He had deferrals.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:04am #1084199
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantBut to question Sam Hinkie’s decision to TRADE for NOEL and the draft pick that became Dario Saric and a lost 1st round via the BYNUM fiasco (done under the watchful eye of Doug Collins and Ed Stefanski BTW)
Sam Hinkie actually DRAFTED the eventually ROTY in MCW 11th Overall, check your facts
He traded away damaged goods in Jrue Holiday(who has missed more time than Noel in that time span BTW)
And he got back Noel (who had a very good rookie season after returning from an injury, in fact only a few other rookies every averaged as many Points/Rebounds/Blocks/Steals and Assist, a list that includes David Robinson amongst others, The Admiral missed his first season due to his military obligations as well, don’t think San Antonio regrets letting him sit a year)
People have this wierd obseesion with Sam Hinkie, that they just fail to see the facts…
Fact is he wanted to Trade Holiday for Olapido/Porter/Noel or Bennett, AB went 1st overall and Olapido and Porter were grabbed right after him, Noel was considered the #1 Prospect before he got injured, and I would argue that aside from VO he’s had the most productive career thus far, AB is a bust and OP is just now learning how to play a specific role
Fact is he wanted to Draft Andrew Wiggins to pair up with MCW and Noel but the Cavs won another #1 Pick and picked up Wiggins only to trade him to Sota for K Love, if Embiid had not been injured many say he’d be the Cavs pick and who knows if they make the K Love trade…Parker would have likely been the pick had the injury gods not been so cruel to Joel and the 76ers…Lets see how well Embiid plays, or if he never really plays as some cynics would still say…
Can you really blame him for taking Jahlil Okafor 3rd overall, after the Lakers took a chance on Russell?
Who would you have drafted ahead of him, Mudiay? Booker? I love Devin Booker but no one had him as a Top 3 pick in the year of KAT, Okafor and Porzingas…
Speaking of Kristaps, people seem to forget that Sam Hinkie and his tanking contingent are the ones who first began the Porzingas hype train, he was trying to draft him the year he landed Saric (Dario himself pulled out the year prior and Sam landed him a year later)
Sam Hinkie actually wanted a roster built around MCW/Wiggins/Saric/Porzingas/Noel…Too bad the NBA has a lottery system that actually prevents teams from build their roster up with best Prospects, a team like Cleveland jumps several spots and throws a monkey wrench in a struggling team’s plan…
So Both Teams Played Hard, while I respect your cynical POV on occassion, you may want to rethink your stance on Hinkie, especially in regards to him TRADING Holiday for Noel+Saric+1st round pick back from Orlando
He drafted ROY MCW, traded him for a potential Top 5 Pick in 2017 (A Guard heavy draft) What has MCW done but make the Bucks take a step back after he arrived, again Facts!!!
He Drafted Joel Embiid and Dario Saric, who will finally make their debuts this season, jury is still out, but I’d take that duo any day of the week…
He drafted Jahlil Okafor after his Front Office all but fired him on the spot for suggesting they take Porzingas, Okafor still ends up on the All Rookie Team and nearly averged 20 and 10 on 50% shooting, the kid was the #1 pick his whole HS career and wins a National Championship his freshman year yet the world turns on him once he’s taken by the 76ers…
Sam Hinkie gets ousted and the 76ers finally win the #1 pick and Draft Ben Simmons, again what timing…
Lets just wait and see what happens in Philadelphia…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 6:04am #1084363
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantBut to question Sam Hinkie’s decision to TRADE for NOEL and the draft pick that became Dario Saric and a lost 1st round via the BYNUM fiasco (done under the watchful eye of Doug Collins and Ed Stefanski BTW)
Sam Hinkie actually DRAFTED the eventually ROTY in MCW 11th Overall, check your facts
He traded away damaged goods in Jrue Holiday(who has missed more time than Noel in that time span BTW)
And he got back Noel (who had a very good rookie season after returning from an injury, in fact only a few other rookies every averaged as many Points/Rebounds/Blocks/Steals and Assist, a list that includes David Robinson amongst others, The Admiral missed his first season due to his military obligations as well, don’t think San Antonio regrets letting him sit a year)
People have this wierd obseesion with Sam Hinkie, that they just fail to see the facts…
Fact is he wanted to Trade Holiday for Olapido/Porter/Noel or Bennett, AB went 1st overall and Olapido and Porter were grabbed right after him, Noel was considered the #1 Prospect before he got injured, and I would argue that aside from VO he’s had the most productive career thus far, AB is a bust and OP is just now learning how to play a specific role
Fact is he wanted to Draft Andrew Wiggins to pair up with MCW and Noel but the Cavs won another #1 Pick and picked up Wiggins only to trade him to Sota for K Love, if Embiid had not been injured many say he’d be the Cavs pick and who knows if they make the K Love trade…Parker would have likely been the pick had the injury gods not been so cruel to Joel and the 76ers…Lets see how well Embiid plays, or if he never really plays as some cynics would still say…
Can you really blame him for taking Jahlil Okafor 3rd overall, after the Lakers took a chance on Russell?
Who would you have drafted ahead of him, Mudiay? Booker? I love Devin Booker but no one had him as a Top 3 pick in the year of KAT, Okafor and Porzingas…
Speaking of Kristaps, people seem to forget that Sam Hinkie and his tanking contingent are the ones who first began the Porzingas hype train, he was trying to draft him the year he landed Saric (Dario himself pulled out the year prior and Sam landed him a year later)
Sam Hinkie actually wanted a roster built around MCW/Wiggins/Saric/Porzingas/Noel…Too bad the NBA has a lottery system that actually prevents teams from build their roster up with best Prospects, a team like Cleveland jumps several spots and throws a monkey wrench in a struggling team’s plan…
So Both Teams Played Hard, while I respect your cynical POV on occassion, you may want to rethink your stance on Hinkie, especially in regards to him TRADING Holiday for Noel+Saric+1st round pick back from Orlando
He drafted ROY MCW, traded him for a potential Top 5 Pick in 2017 (A Guard heavy draft) What has MCW done but make the Bucks take a step back after he arrived, again Facts!!!
He Drafted Joel Embiid and Dario Saric, who will finally make their debuts this season, jury is still out, but I’d take that duo any day of the week…
He drafted Jahlil Okafor after his Front Office all but fired him on the spot for suggesting they take Porzingas, Okafor still ends up on the All Rookie Team and nearly averged 20 and 10 on 50% shooting, the kid was the #1 pick his whole HS career and wins a National Championship his freshman year yet the world turns on him once he’s taken by the 76ers…
Sam Hinkie gets ousted and the 76ers finally win the #1 pick and Draft Ben Simmons, again what timing…
Lets just wait and see what happens in Philadelphia…
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 5:07am #1084190
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantVlade has been in the job for a year. At this point in Hinkie’s time in Philadelphia, he drafted Nerlens Noel because he was entralled by an "upside" that didn’t include any offensive skills, bulk, or two working knees.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 5:07am #1084354
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantVlade has been in the job for a year. At this point in Hinkie’s time in Philadelphia, he drafted Nerlens Noel because he was entralled by an "upside" that didn’t include any offensive skills, bulk, or two working knees.
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 12:48am #1084142
NBAjunkie81Participantthat’s step #1….. The Kings just finished their 10th straight losing season…… They ahve given away their 1st round pick or their position in 2017 & 2019 to Phila….
It looks like Cousins is going to leave no matter what…… so the Kings are going to struggle for the next 3 or 4 years anyway……… They might as well hire someone who can Stack future 1st round picks & understands how use Leverage & play Poker in Trades & Drafts
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 2:41am #1084309
HobbyOGParticipantJesus..he’s the only person who can fix the Kings.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 2:41am #1084134
HobbyOGParticipantJesus..he’s the only person who can fix the Kings.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 2:41am #1084145
HobbyOGParticipantJesus..he’s the only person who can fix the Kings.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 4:39am #1084164
HitsterParticipantWe all know someone will pay DMC in FA but a lot of teams may shy from trading for me given his reputation. The team have added some decent pieces around him but like a post KG Minny – they are always stuck in the draft. Minny now look to be turning the corner.
With David Joerger now in situ as Coach at least they have a proven guy to run the team. Perhaps he could bring Lionel Hollins in too given Lionel has a good record of working with bigs and could help DMC and their young bigs.
0- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:42am #1084215
joe2324Participantceltics should offer the nets 2018 pick and thats all
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:42am #1084227
joe2324Participantceltics should offer the nets 2018 pick and thats all
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 7:42am #1084390
joe2324Participantceltics should offer the nets 2018 pick and thats all
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- Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 4:39am #1084175
HitsterParticipantWe all know someone will pay DMC in FA but a lot of teams may shy from trading for me given his reputation. The team have added some decent pieces around him but like a post KG Minny – they are always stuck in the draft. Minny now look to be turning the corner.
With David Joerger now in situ as Coach at least they have a proven guy to run the team. Perhaps he could bring Lionel Hollins in too given Lionel has a good record of working with bigs and could help DMC and their young bigs.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 07/19/2016 - 4:39am #1084339
HitsterParticipantWe all know someone will pay DMC in FA but a lot of teams may shy from trading for me given his reputation. The team have added some decent pieces around him but like a post KG Minny – they are always stuck in the draft. Minny now look to be turning the corner.
With David Joerger now in situ as Coach at least they have a proven guy to run the team. Perhaps he could bring Lionel Hollins in too given Lionel has a good record of working with bigs and could help DMC and their young bigs.
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