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- Posted on: Fri, 07/15/2016 - 7:18pm #64681
For_Never_EverParticipanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f0BLQOgOOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr-l40B4D68
This is kinda old now, but thought some of guys might be interested.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:33am #1083763
Meditated StatesParticipantStill like basketball as a sport and still like my home team but no longer watch as much. Most of the players are not likeable, seriously. Durant teams blows a 3to1 lead conference finals and he goes there. That is Jordan going to the Pistons man. Lebron,Wade,Paul are all media hoes and not very likeable individuals. They are all spending so much time being buddies on the court the play is less intense and less physical. Super star team up is not engaged by coaches or GM the players say I want to roll with him. We honestly have guys who are top 10 players and 3 of them will literally come up with a plan to play together. Guys want the ring so they can say I had 1. Not earned one. I am a top 3 player but I want to play with the number 2 player? Magic said he relished watching Bird walk away with his head down when they beat them in the finals. Bird felt the same knocking Magic off too after not getting that national championship. What is a league with no rivalries,tension, or fortitude. Did KD really try to help Russ close those boys out?SMH
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:33am #1083592
Meditated StatesParticipantStill like basketball as a sport and still like my home team but no longer watch as much. Most of the players are not likeable, seriously. Durant teams blows a 3to1 lead conference finals and he goes there. That is Jordan going to the Pistons man. Lebron,Wade,Paul are all media hoes and not very likeable individuals. They are all spending so much time being buddies on the court the play is less intense and less physical. Super star team up is not engaged by coaches or GM the players say I want to roll with him. We honestly have guys who are top 10 players and 3 of them will literally come up with a plan to play together. Guys want the ring so they can say I had 1. Not earned one. I am a top 3 player but I want to play with the number 2 player? Magic said he relished watching Bird walk away with his head down when they beat them in the finals. Bird felt the same knocking Magic off too after not getting that national championship. What is a league with no rivalries,tension, or fortitude. Did KD really try to help Russ close those boys out?SMH
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:33am #1083603
Meditated StatesParticipantStill like basketball as a sport and still like my home team but no longer watch as much. Most of the players are not likeable, seriously. Durant teams blows a 3to1 lead conference finals and he goes there. That is Jordan going to the Pistons man. Lebron,Wade,Paul are all media hoes and not very likeable individuals. They are all spending so much time being buddies on the court the play is less intense and less physical. Super star team up is not engaged by coaches or GM the players say I want to roll with him. We honestly have guys who are top 10 players and 3 of them will literally come up with a plan to play together. Guys want the ring so they can say I had 1. Not earned one. I am a top 3 player but I want to play with the number 2 player? Magic said he relished watching Bird walk away with his head down when they beat them in the finals. Bird felt the same knocking Magic off too after not getting that national championship. What is a league with no rivalries,tension, or fortitude. Did KD really try to help Russ close those boys out?SMH
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 5:35am #1083772
AwardedBallerParticipantNah, I don’t agree. Wade, Bron, Melo and CP3 aren’t likeable because they are friends? They aren’t competitive? Bron put his all on the line to will his city back from a 3-1 deficit to win a championship. Melo could have teamed up with another superstar in D. Rose to try to win a championship but he was trying to start his own thing in NY and he caught flack for it. Fans like you are irritating because you talk like the players owe you something. Times have changed, you don’t know how it feels to get crucified by the media for not being able to win a championship. If you are bothered by something heavily, after a while you’ll do something to fix that problem. KD felt like he had a better chance to win in Oakland, oh well, get over it. If I’m not mistaken there’s still 82 games to play and 4 more atleast if they make it to the playoffs. The games are played for a reason, if this bothers you so much just stop watching. You just called 4 guys who put there hearts in the community media hoes, sir unless you’re impacting the world such as they are I’d stop throwing all those stones from a straw house.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 5:35am #1083601
AwardedBallerParticipantNah, I don’t agree. Wade, Bron, Melo and CP3 aren’t likeable because they are friends? They aren’t competitive? Bron put his all on the line to will his city back from a 3-1 deficit to win a championship. Melo could have teamed up with another superstar in D. Rose to try to win a championship but he was trying to start his own thing in NY and he caught flack for it. Fans like you are irritating because you talk like the players owe you something. Times have changed, you don’t know how it feels to get crucified by the media for not being able to win a championship. If you are bothered by something heavily, after a while you’ll do something to fix that problem. KD felt like he had a better chance to win in Oakland, oh well, get over it. If I’m not mistaken there’s still 82 games to play and 4 more atleast if they make it to the playoffs. The games are played for a reason, if this bothers you so much just stop watching. You just called 4 guys who put there hearts in the community media hoes, sir unless you’re impacting the world such as they are I’d stop throwing all those stones from a straw house.
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:17am #1083784
surveParticipant^ good post. I also would like to add though….when speaking about competitiveness in todays game, people tend to overlook that the officiating has taken a lot of the swagger, street, and to some degree competitve spirit out of the game by trying to eliminate not only trash-talking but anything perceived as taunting. It takes the fun out of it when you give Webber a tech for staring down a player after he posterized them or telling Mutombo he can only finger-wave to the crowd and not the player who’s shot he just blocked.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:17am #1083613
surveParticipant^ good post. I also would like to add though….when speaking about competitiveness in todays game, people tend to overlook that the officiating has taken a lot of the swagger, street, and to some degree competitve spirit out of the game by trying to eliminate not only trash-talking but anything perceived as taunting. It takes the fun out of it when you give Webber a tech for staring down a player after he posterized them or telling Mutombo he can only finger-wave to the crowd and not the player who’s shot he just blocked.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:17am #1083624
surveParticipant^ good post. I also would like to add though….when speaking about competitiveness in todays game, people tend to overlook that the officiating has taken a lot of the swagger, street, and to some degree competitve spirit out of the game by trying to eliminate not only trash-talking but anything perceived as taunting. It takes the fun out of it when you give Webber a tech for staring down a player after he posterized them or telling Mutombo he can only finger-wave to the crowd and not the player who’s shot he just blocked.
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 5:35am #1083612
AwardedBallerParticipantNah, I don’t agree. Wade, Bron, Melo and CP3 aren’t likeable because they are friends? They aren’t competitive? Bron put his all on the line to will his city back from a 3-1 deficit to win a championship. Melo could have teamed up with another superstar in D. Rose to try to win a championship but he was trying to start his own thing in NY and he caught flack for it. Fans like you are irritating because you talk like the players owe you something. Times have changed, you don’t know how it feels to get crucified by the media for not being able to win a championship. If you are bothered by something heavily, after a while you’ll do something to fix that problem. KD felt like he had a better chance to win in Oakland, oh well, get over it. If I’m not mistaken there’s still 82 games to play and 4 more atleast if they make it to the playoffs. The games are played for a reason, if this bothers you so much just stop watching. You just called 4 guys who put there hearts in the community media hoes, sir unless you’re impacting the world such as they are I’d stop throwing all those stones from a straw house.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:31am #1083787
CameronCrazy11ParticipantGuys from the 70s and 80s can say what they want, but it really doesn’t mean much in terms of today’s NBA. Correct if I’m wrong, but I don’t free agency even existed in the fashion that it does now for much of the careers of guys like Magic and Bird. I get tired of hearing them say things like, "I never would have teamed up with another superstar player." They didn’t need to! Magic and Bird played with lineups of Hall of Famers/All Stars/some of the best role players in history for most of their careers. Charles Barkley called out Kevin Durant for all of this but he was one of the biggest ring chasers in history.
Let’s not pretend that these super teams are suddenly becoming a trend either. They’ve been around since the 50s and 60s. The Celtics basically owned an entire decade because of how dominant their team was. The NBA managed to make it through that era. Players control the league now. Back then, GMs and coaches loved making "super" teams but they did it through the draft and trades. I think a lot of the hatred stems from the fact that players can change the landscape of the league with one decision, and people in front offices around the league are frightened by this though. If Kevin Durant had stayed in OKC and failed to deliver a championship, he’d be drilled for not winning a ring. If he wins a ring with Golden State, people will say that he didn’t "earn" the ring. Can’t please everyone.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:31am #1083616
CameronCrazy11ParticipantGuys from the 70s and 80s can say what they want, but it really doesn’t mean much in terms of today’s NBA. Correct if I’m wrong, but I don’t free agency even existed in the fashion that it does now for much of the careers of guys like Magic and Bird. I get tired of hearing them say things like, "I never would have teamed up with another superstar player." They didn’t need to! Magic and Bird played with lineups of Hall of Famers/All Stars/some of the best role players in history for most of their careers. Charles Barkley called out Kevin Durant for all of this but he was one of the biggest ring chasers in history.
Let’s not pretend that these super teams are suddenly becoming a trend either. They’ve been around since the 50s and 60s. The Celtics basically owned an entire decade because of how dominant their team was. The NBA managed to make it through that era. Players control the league now. Back then, GMs and coaches loved making "super" teams but they did it through the draft and trades. I think a lot of the hatred stems from the fact that players can change the landscape of the league with one decision, and people in front offices around the league are frightened by this though. If Kevin Durant had stayed in OKC and failed to deliver a championship, he’d be drilled for not winning a ring. If he wins a ring with Golden State, people will say that he didn’t "earn" the ring. Can’t please everyone.
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 8:15am #1083805
surveParticipantwell, the dynamic was different. they couldnt have teamed up even if they wanted to. the NBA had almost folded and was just about to go out of business before Bird and Magic took their college rivalry to the league. then came MJ and all was well. those stars represented the large markets which merchandising and licensing made the league profitable again. the Commissioner wouldve never allowed Magic and Bird to team up as each team needed a face of the franchise.
as star talent became more abundant in the 80’s, then you were able to see a lot of great talent assembled and spread out. when I say star or superstar, I am not necessarily talking about how great a player is, but their charisma. this is why it was called the golden age. you had guys that were larger than life. there were some great players like Dantley and English for instance, but they didnt have the appeal of guys that came along after them such as Dominique. the league was dying and Bird and Magic basically bridged the gap between Dr. J and MJ and thats what actually saved the league.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 8:15am #1083634
surveParticipantwell, the dynamic was different. they couldnt have teamed up even if they wanted to. the NBA had almost folded and was just about to go out of business before Bird and Magic took their college rivalry to the league. then came MJ and all was well. those stars represented the large markets which merchandising and licensing made the league profitable again. the Commissioner wouldve never allowed Magic and Bird to team up as each team needed a face of the franchise.
as star talent became more abundant in the 80’s, then you were able to see a lot of great talent assembled and spread out. when I say star or superstar, I am not necessarily talking about how great a player is, but their charisma. this is why it was called the golden age. you had guys that were larger than life. there were some great players like Dantley and English for instance, but they didnt have the appeal of guys that came along after them such as Dominique. the league was dying and Bird and Magic basically bridged the gap between Dr. J and MJ and thats what actually saved the league.
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:09pm #1083951
CameronCrazy11ParticipantI’m well aware of all of that. What I don’t like is all of these legends saying that they wouldn’t have wanted to play with other superstar players and making it seem like today’s players always take the easy way out. I find it hard to believe that Larry Bird would have told Celtics management that he wouldn’t want to play with Magic Johnson if given the opportunity.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:09pm #1083777
CameronCrazy11ParticipantI’m well aware of all of that. What I don’t like is all of these legends saying that they wouldn’t have wanted to play with other superstar players and making it seem like today’s players always take the easy way out. I find it hard to believe that Larry Bird would have told Celtics management that he wouldn’t want to play with Magic Johnson if given the opportunity.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:09pm #1083788
CameronCrazy11ParticipantI’m well aware of all of that. What I don’t like is all of these legends saying that they wouldn’t have wanted to play with other superstar players and making it seem like today’s players always take the easy way out. I find it hard to believe that Larry Bird would have told Celtics management that he wouldn’t want to play with Magic Johnson if given the opportunity.
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 8:15am #1083645
surveParticipantwell, the dynamic was different. they couldnt have teamed up even if they wanted to. the NBA had almost folded and was just about to go out of business before Bird and Magic took their college rivalry to the league. then came MJ and all was well. those stars represented the large markets which merchandising and licensing made the league profitable again. the Commissioner wouldve never allowed Magic and Bird to team up as each team needed a face of the franchise.
as star talent became more abundant in the 80’s, then you were able to see a lot of great talent assembled and spread out. when I say star or superstar, I am not necessarily talking about how great a player is, but their charisma. this is why it was called the golden age. you had guys that were larger than life. there were some great players like Dantley and English for instance, but they didnt have the appeal of guys that came along after them such as Dominique. the league was dying and Bird and Magic basically bridged the gap between Dr. J and MJ and thats what actually saved the league.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:41pm #1083904
BeastMode716Participantin History" b/c he forced his way Off the 76ers where the owner traded the #1 overall pick (Brad Duagherty) for Roy Hinson & Jeff Ruland
And the team he went to was the Phoenix Suns whose stars were Dan Marjlee & Kevin Johnson??? That’s your Def of a Ring Chaser???
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:41pm #1083732
BeastMode716Participantin History" b/c he forced his way Off the 76ers where the owner traded the #1 overall pick (Brad Duagherty) for Roy Hinson & Jeff Ruland
And the team he went to was the Phoenix Suns whose stars were Dan Marjlee & Kevin Johnson??? That’s your Def of a Ring Chaser???
0- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:04pm #1083948
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHe also got himself traded to the Rockets immediately after they won two straight titles once he realized the Suns weren’t winning a title. I probably exaggerated a bit in my first post but it doesn’t change the fact that he tried getting on the team that he thought had the best shot at a title multiple times, which is exactly what Kevin Durant did.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:04pm #1083774
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHe also got himself traded to the Rockets immediately after they won two straight titles once he realized the Suns weren’t winning a title. I probably exaggerated a bit in my first post but it doesn’t change the fact that he tried getting on the team that he thought had the best shot at a title multiple times, which is exactly what Kevin Durant did.
0- Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:26am #1083983
surveParticipantCharles said recently (when someone criticized him of pulling a Durant) that he didnt want to leave PHX and the trade was not one he requested. He also stated the major difference was that all of them were "old". Durant is a prime MVP candidate joining the back to back reigning MVP. as he says, another difference is that OKC was arguably the best team in the playoffs this year, they just folded. but by adding Dipo and Sabonis and such, they likely wouldve been favored to unseat GSW. Regular season is cool, but the playoffs is where it counts. I dont always agree with Chuck but he really does know basketball.
just search on youtube for Barkley on Durant
sn: I cant post youtube link to the interviews in here, keeps asking for the word verification but never goes through. this is why I stopped posting on this site for 2 years because it became so difficult to get past fkn spam blockers
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:26am #1083810
surveParticipantCharles said recently (when someone criticized him of pulling a Durant) that he didnt want to leave PHX and the trade was not one he requested. He also stated the major difference was that all of them were "old". Durant is a prime MVP candidate joining the back to back reigning MVP. as he says, another difference is that OKC was arguably the best team in the playoffs this year, they just folded. but by adding Dipo and Sabonis and such, they likely wouldve been favored to unseat GSW. Regular season is cool, but the playoffs is where it counts. I dont always agree with Chuck but he really does know basketball.
just search on youtube for Barkley on Durant
sn: I cant post youtube link to the interviews in here, keeps asking for the word verification but never goes through. this is why I stopped posting on this site for 2 years because it became so difficult to get past fkn spam blockers
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:26am #1083821
surveParticipantCharles said recently (when someone criticized him of pulling a Durant) that he didnt want to leave PHX and the trade was not one he requested. He also stated the major difference was that all of them were "old". Durant is a prime MVP candidate joining the back to back reigning MVP. as he says, another difference is that OKC was arguably the best team in the playoffs this year, they just folded. but by adding Dipo and Sabonis and such, they likely wouldve been favored to unseat GSW. Regular season is cool, but the playoffs is where it counts. I dont always agree with Chuck but he really does know basketball.
just search on youtube for Barkley on Durant
sn: I cant post youtube link to the interviews in here, keeps asking for the word verification but never goes through. this is why I stopped posting on this site for 2 years because it became so difficult to get past fkn spam blockers
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:34am #1083986
surveParticipantalso, I want to say, I understand where you are coming from. its easy for those guys to say that. MJ was the main one who said he would never team up. he probably would have though as he and Scottie both at times were on the trading block. (MJ was before Scottie’s arrival and Scottie apparently by T-Mac’s admission)
at the same time, the championship wasnt as much pressure back then to make someone go to a team who had a player close to their equal. MJ wanted to be the best man on his team. KD obviously doesnt care about that. KD said himself he didnt know if GSW even wanted him being that they just came off the season they had and a championship without him.
I really think it was a chump move due to the fact that OKC is the most talented team in the league with him coupled with the fact he is going to GSW. Particularly being that a championship is not given. If they meet with the Spurs, they are gonna have difficulties….and lets not just count the Cavs out AGAIN.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:34am #1083813
surveParticipantalso, I want to say, I understand where you are coming from. its easy for those guys to say that. MJ was the main one who said he would never team up. he probably would have though as he and Scottie both at times were on the trading block. (MJ was before Scottie’s arrival and Scottie apparently by T-Mac’s admission)
at the same time, the championship wasnt as much pressure back then to make someone go to a team who had a player close to their equal. MJ wanted to be the best man on his team. KD obviously doesnt care about that. KD said himself he didnt know if GSW even wanted him being that they just came off the season they had and a championship without him.
I really think it was a chump move due to the fact that OKC is the most talented team in the league with him coupled with the fact he is going to GSW. Particularly being that a championship is not given. If they meet with the Spurs, they are gonna have difficulties….and lets not just count the Cavs out AGAIN.
0- Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 4:29am #1083989
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHard to disgree with that. Personally I wish Durant had stayed in OKC or if he really had to leave, gone to Boston. At the same time though, I can see why he would go to Golden State because of the way that titles are viewed when looking at a player’s legacy. People can say what they want, but Karl Malone’s and John Stockton’s careers are probably not as valued as they should be due to the fact that they never won a title.
My main point that I wanted to get across in my original post though is that super teams have existed for decades. They’re just being built now through free agency. In the past, they were always built through trades and the draft. For whatever reason, no one had a problem with teams being built through trades/drafting but hate it when players choose who they want to play with. Probably the best comparison of this is the way that "Big 3" Celtics (KG, Pierce, Allen that is) were viewed vs. how the "Big 3" Heat were viewed after being assembled.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 4:29am #1083816
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHard to disgree with that. Personally I wish Durant had stayed in OKC or if he really had to leave, gone to Boston. At the same time though, I can see why he would go to Golden State because of the way that titles are viewed when looking at a player’s legacy. People can say what they want, but Karl Malone’s and John Stockton’s careers are probably not as valued as they should be due to the fact that they never won a title.
My main point that I wanted to get across in my original post though is that super teams have existed for decades. They’re just being built now through free agency. In the past, they were always built through trades and the draft. For whatever reason, no one had a problem with teams being built through trades/drafting but hate it when players choose who they want to play with. Probably the best comparison of this is the way that "Big 3" Celtics (KG, Pierce, Allen that is) were viewed vs. how the "Big 3" Heat were viewed after being assembled.
0- Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 12:02pm #1084057
surveParticipantI remember when people called Mailman and Glove "bandwagoners" when they tried to pick up rings and they were old as dirt. In another interview, I like what Bird said. He said he didnt have to go play with other great players because he had great players around him. He said he was in a good situation in Boston. I am not against KD leaving OKC, but he left arguably the 3rd best team to join the 2nd best. However, I really do think that if he stayed in OKC next year they wouldve given GSW the business. GSW is a great team but I think they have begun to be figured out and OKC added Dipo and Bonis while GSW loses Barnes and Bogut. I think one if not both of those guys would not have been in Oakland next year anyway. Also, what does Iggy have left in the tank?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 12:02pm #1083880
surveParticipantI remember when people called Mailman and Glove "bandwagoners" when they tried to pick up rings and they were old as dirt. In another interview, I like what Bird said. He said he didnt have to go play with other great players because he had great players around him. He said he was in a good situation in Boston. I am not against KD leaving OKC, but he left arguably the 3rd best team to join the 2nd best. However, I really do think that if he stayed in OKC next year they wouldve given GSW the business. GSW is a great team but I think they have begun to be figured out and OKC added Dipo and Bonis while GSW loses Barnes and Bogut. I think one if not both of those guys would not have been in Oakland next year anyway. Also, what does Iggy have left in the tank?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 12:02pm #1083894
surveParticipantI remember when people called Mailman and Glove "bandwagoners" when they tried to pick up rings and they were old as dirt. In another interview, I like what Bird said. He said he didnt have to go play with other great players because he had great players around him. He said he was in a good situation in Boston. I am not against KD leaving OKC, but he left arguably the 3rd best team to join the 2nd best. However, I really do think that if he stayed in OKC next year they wouldve given GSW the business. GSW is a great team but I think they have begun to be figured out and OKC added Dipo and Bonis while GSW loses Barnes and Bogut. I think one if not both of those guys would not have been in Oakland next year anyway. Also, what does Iggy have left in the tank?
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 4:29am #1083827
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHard to disgree with that. Personally I wish Durant had stayed in OKC or if he really had to leave, gone to Boston. At the same time though, I can see why he would go to Golden State because of the way that titles are viewed when looking at a player’s legacy. People can say what they want, but Karl Malone’s and John Stockton’s careers are probably not as valued as they should be due to the fact that they never won a title.
My main point that I wanted to get across in my original post though is that super teams have existed for decades. They’re just being built now through free agency. In the past, they were always built through trades and the draft. For whatever reason, no one had a problem with teams being built through trades/drafting but hate it when players choose who they want to play with. Probably the best comparison of this is the way that "Big 3" Celtics (KG, Pierce, Allen that is) were viewed vs. how the "Big 3" Heat were viewed after being assembled.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/17/2016 - 3:34am #1083824
surveParticipantalso, I want to say, I understand where you are coming from. its easy for those guys to say that. MJ was the main one who said he would never team up. he probably would have though as he and Scottie both at times were on the trading block. (MJ was before Scottie’s arrival and Scottie apparently by T-Mac’s admission)
at the same time, the championship wasnt as much pressure back then to make someone go to a team who had a player close to their equal. MJ wanted to be the best man on his team. KD obviously doesnt care about that. KD said himself he didnt know if GSW even wanted him being that they just came off the season they had and a championship without him.
I really think it was a chump move due to the fact that OKC is the most talented team in the league with him coupled with the fact he is going to GSW. Particularly being that a championship is not given. If they meet with the Spurs, they are gonna have difficulties….and lets not just count the Cavs out AGAIN.
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 7:04pm #1083785
CameronCrazy11ParticipantHe also got himself traded to the Rockets immediately after they won two straight titles once he realized the Suns weren’t winning a title. I probably exaggerated a bit in my first post but it doesn’t change the fact that he tried getting on the team that he thought had the best shot at a title multiple times, which is exactly what Kevin Durant did.
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 4:41pm #1083743
BeastMode716Participantin History" b/c he forced his way Off the 76ers where the owner traded the #1 overall pick (Brad Duagherty) for Roy Hinson & Jeff Ruland
And the team he went to was the Phoenix Suns whose stars were Dan Marjlee & Kevin Johnson??? That’s your Def of a Ring Chaser???
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- Posted on: Sat, 07/16/2016 - 6:31am #1083627
CameronCrazy11ParticipantGuys from the 70s and 80s can say what they want, but it really doesn’t mean much in terms of today’s NBA. Correct if I’m wrong, but I don’t free agency even existed in the fashion that it does now for much of the careers of guys like Magic and Bird. I get tired of hearing them say things like, "I never would have teamed up with another superstar player." They didn’t need to! Magic and Bird played with lineups of Hall of Famers/All Stars/some of the best role players in history for most of their careers. Charles Barkley called out Kevin Durant for all of this but he was one of the biggest ring chasers in history.
Let’s not pretend that these super teams are suddenly becoming a trend either. They’ve been around since the 50s and 60s. The Celtics basically owned an entire decade because of how dominant their team was. The NBA managed to make it through that era. Players control the league now. Back then, GMs and coaches loved making "super" teams but they did it through the draft and trades. I think a lot of the hatred stems from the fact that players can change the landscape of the league with one decision, and people in front offices around the league are frightened by this though. If Kevin Durant had stayed in OKC and failed to deliver a championship, he’d be drilled for not winning a ring. If he wins a ring with Golden State, people will say that he didn’t "earn" the ring. Can’t please everyone.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 6:43am #1083976
Meditated StatesParticipantHush your mouth. Jordan would not lose to the Pistons in that situation in his prime and join them the next season. Would Russell go to the Lakers after losing to them? No.
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 8:01am #1084165
AwardedBallerParticipantWhat does that have to do with anything I just said? You said Jordan wouldn’t join the Pistons and Russell wouldn’t join the Lakers. You know what’s funny about that? NEITHER OF THEM ARE KEVIN DURANT. You are comparing the behavioral qualties of three different people in three different generations. These are humans who play basketball, they are not robots who all come from the code of Michael Jordan. If you miss MJ and Bill Russell so much go on YouTube and watch them play, you sound like the NBA we live in makes you sick. If that’s the case you’re not being forced to watch anything. You keep speaking as if this generation of the NBA isn’t 100 times more competitive than the 90’s or Russell’s era for damn sure. Stop complaining and just enjoy the game while it’s here.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 8:01am #1083990
AwardedBallerParticipantWhat does that have to do with anything I just said? You said Jordan wouldn’t join the Pistons and Russell wouldn’t join the Lakers. You know what’s funny about that? NEITHER OF THEM ARE KEVIN DURANT. You are comparing the behavioral qualties of three different people in three different generations. These are humans who play basketball, they are not robots who all come from the code of Michael Jordan. If you miss MJ and Bill Russell so much go on YouTube and watch them play, you sound like the NBA we live in makes you sick. If that’s the case you’re not being forced to watch anything. You keep speaking as if this generation of the NBA isn’t 100 times more competitive than the 90’s or Russell’s era for damn sure. Stop complaining and just enjoy the game while it’s here.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 8:01am #1084003
AwardedBallerParticipantWhat does that have to do with anything I just said? You said Jordan wouldn’t join the Pistons and Russell wouldn’t join the Lakers. You know what’s funny about that? NEITHER OF THEM ARE KEVIN DURANT. You are comparing the behavioral qualties of three different people in three different generations. These are humans who play basketball, they are not robots who all come from the code of Michael Jordan. If you miss MJ and Bill Russell so much go on YouTube and watch them play, you sound like the NBA we live in makes you sick. If that’s the case you’re not being forced to watch anything. You keep speaking as if this generation of the NBA isn’t 100 times more competitive than the 90’s or Russell’s era for damn sure. Stop complaining and just enjoy the game while it’s here.
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 6:43am #1083988
Meditated StatesParticipantHush your mouth. Jordan would not lose to the Pistons in that situation in his prime and join them the next season. Would Russell go to the Lakers after losing to them? No.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/18/2016 - 6:43am #1084150
Meditated StatesParticipantHush your mouth. Jordan would not lose to the Pistons in that situation in his prime and join them the next season. Would Russell go to the Lakers after losing to them? No.
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