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- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:00pm #64622

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantThe Suns look like they have a bright future. Devin Booker looks like he is going to end up being a star on the wing and Chriss looks like a more athletic Bosh.
Bender on the other hand has bust written all over him. I was saying when everyone was like he’s the next Porzingis NO WAY. Porzingis is one of a kind you arnt going to draft that kind of player 2 years in a row.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:05pm #1081971
CU.LIONSParticipantAnd you make this comment after How many Summer league games?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:05pm #1081804
CU.LIONSParticipantAnd you make this comment after How many Summer league games?
0- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:11pm #1081974

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant4-18 6 TO and counting in 2 games. Looks over matched on almost every play.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:11pm #1081807

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant4-18 6 TO and counting in 2 games. Looks over matched on almost every play.
0- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:17pm #1081980
CU.LIONSParticipantBender is weak BUT is still only 18 years old and wont turn 19 till December? He may not be the next Pozingis but I would think anyone who is 18 years old and a 7 fter should be allowed more time to develop before truly getting a good idea of what he may or may not be.
Remember Bender was drafted based on potential and not because he is NBA ready.
In the mean time Most of the rookies have struggled so far. Give it some more time.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:17pm #1081813
CU.LIONSParticipantBender is weak BUT is still only 18 years old and wont turn 19 till December? He may not be the next Pozingis but I would think anyone who is 18 years old and a 7 fter should be allowed more time to develop before truly getting a good idea of what he may or may not be.
Remember Bender was drafted based on potential and not because he is NBA ready.
In the mean time Most of the rookies have struggled so far. Give it some more time.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:17pm #1081817
CU.LIONSParticipantBender is weak BUT is still only 18 years old and wont turn 19 till December? He may not be the next Pozingis but I would think anyone who is 18 years old and a 7 fter should be allowed more time to develop before truly getting a good idea of what he may or may not be.
Remember Bender was drafted based on potential and not because he is NBA ready.
In the mean time Most of the rookies have struggled so far. Give it some more time.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:11pm #1081811

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant4-18 6 TO and counting in 2 games. Looks over matched on almost every play.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:05pm #1081808
CU.LIONSParticipantAnd you make this comment after How many Summer league games?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:13pm #1081977

Reptilian MonkParticipantBooker really is legit, great shooter and is so young. Really think he can be as good as Klay Thompson as an Nba player
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:13pm #1081810

Reptilian MonkParticipantBooker really is legit, great shooter and is so young. Really think he can be as good as Klay Thompson as an Nba player
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:16am #1081886

SlickBouncePassParticipantI’m so upset about that because we had Miami’s top 10 protected pick. Miami took Winslow who woudln’t have been bad for the Sixers, but I really wanted Booker.
Booker has this Muhammad Ali flair to him. RJ Hunter is a good shooter, but Booker at 18 is so much more solid than RJ Hunter who is also not a rookie.
Booker destroyed him and you don’t even really know why, other than Booker rarely makes mistakes and even when he does you just overlook them and are on to the next play where he hits a smooth jumper.
Man the Sixers missed out on Booker, so many close oppotunities but luck hasn’t fallen their way. OKC lottery protected and Miami top 10 protected. We coudl’ve had some studs.
I like Luwawu and Korkmaz, but they ain’t no Devin Booker.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:16am #1081888

SlickBouncePassParticipantI’m so upset about that because we had Miami’s top 10 protected pick. Miami took Winslow who woudln’t have been bad for the Sixers, but I really wanted Booker.
Booker has this Muhammad Ali flair to him. RJ Hunter is a good shooter, but Booker at 18 is so much more solid than RJ Hunter who is also not a rookie.
Booker destroyed him and you don’t even really know why, other than Booker rarely makes mistakes and even when he does you just overlook them and are on to the next play where he hits a smooth jumper.
Man the Sixers missed out on Booker, so many close oppotunities but luck hasn’t fallen their way. OKC lottery protected and Miami top 10 protected. We coudl’ve had some studs.
I like Luwawu and Korkmaz, but they ain’t no Devin Booker.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:16am #1082052

SlickBouncePassParticipantI’m so upset about that because we had Miami’s top 10 protected pick. Miami took Winslow who woudln’t have been bad for the Sixers, but I really wanted Booker.
Booker has this Muhammad Ali flair to him. RJ Hunter is a good shooter, but Booker at 18 is so much more solid than RJ Hunter who is also not a rookie.
Booker destroyed him and you don’t even really know why, other than Booker rarely makes mistakes and even when he does you just overlook them and are on to the next play where he hits a smooth jumper.
Man the Sixers missed out on Booker, so many close oppotunities but luck hasn’t fallen their way. OKC lottery protected and Miami top 10 protected. We coudl’ve had some studs.
I like Luwawu and Korkmaz, but they ain’t no Devin Booker.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 6:13pm #1081814

Reptilian MonkParticipantBooker really is legit, great shooter and is so young. Really think he can be as good as Klay Thompson as an Nba player
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 7:19pm #1082001

iCalledBankParticipant8 pts 6 assists 0 turnovers and 7 steals…. Kid can play
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 7:19pm #1081834

iCalledBankParticipant8 pts 6 assists 0 turnovers and 7 steals…. Kid can play
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 6:16pm #1082380
mamadouParticipantKid is impressive at every level he plays in the last 3 seasons, the definition of an overachiever, he should be an nba-er despite his stature i guess, he’s so smart with the ball and alert without the ball, his rebounds-touch passes were pretty sick, lebron has 10+ inches and 110+ pounds on him LOL.
A "150 pounder rookie PG", 58 minutes….1 turnover, 2 fouls, 9 steals, 12 assists, probably unparalleled in the history of the sloppy summer league.
Chris Paul’s mind…in a smaller TJ ford’s body.
On booker "the 19yo veteran trash talker", he was the best passer in the entire summer league, playing alongside a true point…it says a lot about him, the player he’ll become.
That was a nice starting 5(booker is done) 3 lotto picks, the SEC player and defensive player of the year, and the bruiser alan williams averaging 14 and 12 with some devastating screens.
Bender is 2 years and 25 pounds away, nothing new on the horizon, no need to overreact after a bad game, it won’t be the last..
He should have come at 20yo with playing time under his belt and a more nba ready body, not as the youngest player in the league, as a 3rd stringer in a losing team.
For all the holes in his game at this stage(couldn’t post up players with 8 inches on them), i like his feets, he can handle the ball, he moves the ball with purpose, he should be an OK shooter with range, the mechanic is here.
He’s not dumb nor lazy, he’s 7’1 at the start of a game and he’s still 7’1 at the end…of the bench.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 6:16pm #1082216
mamadouParticipantKid is impressive at every level he plays in the last 3 seasons, the definition of an overachiever, he should be an nba-er despite his stature i guess, he’s so smart with the ball and alert without the ball, his rebounds-touch passes were pretty sick, lebron has 10+ inches and 110+ pounds on him LOL.
A "150 pounder rookie PG", 58 minutes….1 turnover, 2 fouls, 9 steals, 12 assists, probably unparalleled in the history of the sloppy summer league.
Chris Paul’s mind…in a smaller TJ ford’s body.
On booker "the 19yo veteran trash talker", he was the best passer in the entire summer league, playing alongside a true point…it says a lot about him, the player he’ll become.
That was a nice starting 5(booker is done) 3 lotto picks, the SEC player and defensive player of the year, and the bruiser alan williams averaging 14 and 12 with some devastating screens.
Bender is 2 years and 25 pounds away, nothing new on the horizon, no need to overreact after a bad game, it won’t be the last..
He should have come at 20yo with playing time under his belt and a more nba ready body, not as the youngest player in the league, as a 3rd stringer in a losing team.
For all the holes in his game at this stage(couldn’t post up players with 8 inches on them), i like his feets, he can handle the ball, he moves the ball with purpose, he should be an OK shooter with range, the mechanic is here.
He’s not dumb nor lazy, he’s 7’1 at the start of a game and he’s still 7’1 at the end…of the bench.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 6:16pm #1082218
mamadouParticipantKid is impressive at every level he plays in the last 3 seasons, the definition of an overachiever, he should be an nba-er despite his stature i guess, he’s so smart with the ball and alert without the ball, his rebounds-touch passes were pretty sick, lebron has 10+ inches and 110+ pounds on him LOL.
A "150 pounder rookie PG", 58 minutes….1 turnover, 2 fouls, 9 steals, 12 assists, probably unparalleled in the history of the sloppy summer league.
Chris Paul’s mind…in a smaller TJ ford’s body.
On booker "the 19yo veteran trash talker", he was the best passer in the entire summer league, playing alongside a true point…it says a lot about him, the player he’ll become.
That was a nice starting 5(booker is done) 3 lotto picks, the SEC player and defensive player of the year, and the bruiser alan williams averaging 14 and 12 with some devastating screens.
Bender is 2 years and 25 pounds away, nothing new on the horizon, no need to overreact after a bad game, it won’t be the last..
He should have come at 20yo with playing time under his belt and a more nba ready body, not as the youngest player in the league, as a 3rd stringer in a losing team.
For all the holes in his game at this stage(couldn’t post up players with 8 inches on them), i like his feets, he can handle the ball, he moves the ball with purpose, he should be an OK shooter with range, the mechanic is here.
He’s not dumb nor lazy, he’s 7’1 at the start of a game and he’s still 7’1 at the end…of the bench.
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- Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 7:19pm #1081838

iCalledBankParticipant8 pts 6 assists 0 turnovers and 7 steals…. Kid can play
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:13pm #1082007

thaprodigyParticipantBust is very premature especially considering summer league performances should be taken with a grain of salt as Josh Selby and Anthony Randolph once dominated but you do bring up a good point, can’t draft a "one of a kind" player in two consecutive drafts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:13pm #1081840

thaprodigyParticipantBust is very premature especially considering summer league performances should be taken with a grain of salt as Josh Selby and Anthony Randolph once dominated but you do bring up a good point, can’t draft a "one of a kind" player in two consecutive drafts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:13pm #1081844

thaprodigyParticipantBust is very premature especially considering summer league performances should be taken with a grain of salt as Josh Selby and Anthony Randolph once dominated but you do bring up a good point, can’t draft a "one of a kind" player in two consecutive drafts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:21pm #1082010

festar35ParticipantPorzingis entered the league as a 20yr old with quite a bit of pro playing time behind him. Expecting Bender as an 18yr old who has played far less minutes to be just as good right away isn’t fair.
In saying that I don’t expect him to be as good as Porzingis will become, but a rather good starter with 3&D potential.Devin Booker is a real talent and I love his game, I keep thinking Ray Allen when I watch him play. Now Allen was great in his day and with the way the NBA is working now he is well suited to succeed!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:21pm #1081843

festar35ParticipantPorzingis entered the league as a 20yr old with quite a bit of pro playing time behind him. Expecting Bender as an 18yr old who has played far less minutes to be just as good right away isn’t fair.
In saying that I don’t expect him to be as good as Porzingis will become, but a rather good starter with 3&D potential.Devin Booker is a real talent and I love his game, I keep thinking Ray Allen when I watch him play. Now Allen was great in his day and with the way the NBA is working now he is well suited to succeed!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 8:21pm #1081847

festar35ParticipantPorzingis entered the league as a 20yr old with quite a bit of pro playing time behind him. Expecting Bender as an 18yr old who has played far less minutes to be just as good right away isn’t fair.
In saying that I don’t expect him to be as good as Porzingis will become, but a rather good starter with 3&D potential.Devin Booker is a real talent and I love his game, I keep thinking Ray Allen when I watch him play. Now Allen was great in his day and with the way the NBA is working now he is well suited to succeed!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 9:49pm #1082013

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantBender will be one of the worst draft picks in this whole draft.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 9:49pm #1081846

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantBender will be one of the worst draft picks in this whole draft.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 07/10/2016 - 9:49pm #1081850

SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantBender will be one of the worst draft picks in this whole draft.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 12:58am #1081856

HitsterParticipantBender won’t be seeing much playing time this year with the Suns already having Len, Tyson Chandler in place and Chriss newly drafted in the frontcourt. He is definitely a long term prospect and people have said we may not even see that much of him on his rookie deal.
As a Suns fan, I’m prepared to wait, but to call anyone a bust after 2 games is a joke.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 12:58am #1082019

HitsterParticipantBender won’t be seeing much playing time this year with the Suns already having Len, Tyson Chandler in place and Chriss newly drafted in the frontcourt. He is definitely a long term prospect and people have said we may not even see that much of him on his rookie deal.
As a Suns fan, I’m prepared to wait, but to call anyone a bust after 2 games is a joke.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 12:58am #1081852

HitsterParticipantBender won’t be seeing much playing time this year with the Suns already having Len, Tyson Chandler in place and Chriss newly drafted in the frontcourt. He is definitely a long term prospect and people have said we may not even see that much of him on his rookie deal.
As a Suns fan, I’m prepared to wait, but to call anyone a bust after 2 games is a joke.
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:20am #1081889

SlickBouncePassParticipantreminds me of Brandon Rush, only Rush was hitting all his shots in college.
Rush is this taylormade NBA player, has the look, but for some reason none of his shots fall.
All we are doing is comparing him to Porzingis. Porzingis shot is much more balanced and fluid and other-worldly.
Some players the first time you see them play you know they are special. I don’t see it in Bender. Bender may be the Bargnani or Gallinari type Euro player….
Either that or his frame needs to get a lot stronger. His legs make him seem a step too slow though, and that shot is shaky.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:20am #1081891

SlickBouncePassParticipantreminds me of Brandon Rush, only Rush was hitting all his shots in college.
Rush is this taylormade NBA player, has the look, but for some reason none of his shots fall.
All we are doing is comparing him to Porzingis. Porzingis shot is much more balanced and fluid and other-worldly.
Some players the first time you see them play you know they are special. I don’t see it in Bender. Bender may be the Bargnani or Gallinari type Euro player….
Either that or his frame needs to get a lot stronger. His legs make him seem a step too slow though, and that shot is shaky.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:20am #1082055

SlickBouncePassParticipantreminds me of Brandon Rush, only Rush was hitting all his shots in college.
Rush is this taylormade NBA player, has the look, but for some reason none of his shots fall.
All we are doing is comparing him to Porzingis. Porzingis shot is much more balanced and fluid and other-worldly.
Some players the first time you see them play you know they are special. I don’t see it in Bender. Bender may be the Bargnani or Gallinari type Euro player….
Either that or his frame needs to get a lot stronger. His legs make him seem a step too slow though, and that shot is shaky.
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 2:54am #1081865
NBAjunkie81ParticipantI Luv Porzingus but he benefitted greatly from playing w/ an Established Super Star / Scorer like Carmello…..
That’s not a knock on Porzingus – it just Is what it Is…… Bender looks great – just like Porzingus he will struggle at first guarding quicker guys who want to drive off the perimeter….
I am Always impressed w/ young players who are High lottery picks who are Mature enough to allow their teammates to get some Shine too……
Bender had a really nice game 1 – game 2 his shot was not falling so he focused on Ball movement & rebounding….. When I see Rookies who Force things – I get worried, Bender showed Alot of Maturity….. & his Stroke from 3 looks Smooth & Flawless (just like Zingy)
0- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:24am #1081892

SlickBouncePassParticipantMelo makes no one better. I owe it more to Porzingis 7′ frame and his God-given ability to shoot.
Bender’s shot is nowhere as nice as Porzingis and I think its because Porzingis frame is so much more solid than Bender’s.
Porzingis has very good lateral movement while Bender looks a step slow.
Porzingis is a far better prospect. You saw the wow-factor from day 1 with Porzingis.
Bender needs to get stronger, faster. Time will tell. We coudln’t find much video on Bender it was a lot of hype. I was caught into that hype. But now that I’ve seen him play he seems like a bust potential. Then again, we could say the same for Ingram based on his shot. Ingram has shown athleticism and quickness that Bender doesn’t have.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:24am #1081894

SlickBouncePassParticipantMelo makes no one better. I owe it more to Porzingis 7′ frame and his God-given ability to shoot.
Bender’s shot is nowhere as nice as Porzingis and I think its because Porzingis frame is so much more solid than Bender’s.
Porzingis has very good lateral movement while Bender looks a step slow.
Porzingis is a far better prospect. You saw the wow-factor from day 1 with Porzingis.
Bender needs to get stronger, faster. Time will tell. We coudln’t find much video on Bender it was a lot of hype. I was caught into that hype. But now that I’ve seen him play he seems like a bust potential. Then again, we could say the same for Ingram based on his shot. Ingram has shown athleticism and quickness that Bender doesn’t have.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 4:24am #1082058

SlickBouncePassParticipantMelo makes no one better. I owe it more to Porzingis 7′ frame and his God-given ability to shoot.
Bender’s shot is nowhere as nice as Porzingis and I think its because Porzingis frame is so much more solid than Bender’s.
Porzingis has very good lateral movement while Bender looks a step slow.
Porzingis is a far better prospect. You saw the wow-factor from day 1 with Porzingis.
Bender needs to get stronger, faster. Time will tell. We coudln’t find much video on Bender it was a lot of hype. I was caught into that hype. But now that I’ve seen him play he seems like a bust potential. Then again, we could say the same for Ingram based on his shot. Ingram has shown athleticism and quickness that Bender doesn’t have.
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- Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 2:54am #1081868
NBAjunkie81ParticipantI Luv Porzingus but he benefitted greatly from playing w/ an Established Super Star / Scorer like Carmello…..
That’s not a knock on Porzingus – it just Is what it Is…… Bender looks great – just like Porzingus he will struggle at first guarding quicker guys who want to drive off the perimeter….
I am Always impressed w/ young players who are High lottery picks who are Mature enough to allow their teammates to get some Shine too……
Bender had a really nice game 1 – game 2 his shot was not falling so he focused on Ball movement & rebounding….. When I see Rookies who Force things – I get worried, Bender showed Alot of Maturity….. & his Stroke from 3 looks Smooth & Flawless (just like Zingy)
0 - Posted on: Mon, 07/11/2016 - 2:54am #1082031
NBAjunkie81ParticipantI Luv Porzingus but he benefitted greatly from playing w/ an Established Super Star / Scorer like Carmello…..
That’s not a knock on Porzingus – it just Is what it Is…… Bender looks great – just like Porzingus he will struggle at first guarding quicker guys who want to drive off the perimeter….
I am Always impressed w/ young players who are High lottery picks who are Mature enough to allow their teammates to get some Shine too……
Bender had a really nice game 1 – game 2 his shot was not falling so he focused on Ball movement & rebounding….. When I see Rookies who Force things – I get worried, Bender showed Alot of Maturity….. & his Stroke from 3 looks Smooth & Flawless (just like Zingy)
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