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- Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 11:03am #64420
CavFanPRParticipantI criticized the Celtics for taking Jaylen Brown with the #3 pick and got negged for it, and rightfully so. The more I think about it, the more I feel like the Celtics won this draft.
I’m a cav fan as you all know, and I’ve been a fan since they drafted Irving. I saw how the cavs blew draft after draft. Taking Waiters in the top 5 and then failing to develop Anthony Bennett, who had amazing potential.
How I wish the cavs had Danny Ainge as the general manager during those grueling years. He’s done a fantastic job adding young talent to that Celtics squad, as well as an immense amount of assets.
I admire Danny Ainge for not gutting his roster in order to acquire middling talent. Jimmy Butler sounds nice on paper, but if he’s so good, why did the Chicago Bulls miss the playoffs? I don’t think he’s the type of player that warrants you to give away all your young talent, and I think Ainge feels the same way.
Jaylen Brown is a very smart guy, and looks like a high character person. With Bradley on the roster, I understand why he elected to draft Brown instead of Hield and Murray. A trio of Thomas, Bradley and Brown has immense amount of potential. Yabusele looks alot like Draymond Green and Zizic has starter written all over him.
Congrats to the Celtics fans, your team is officially on the rise.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 11:15am #1077536
Al PerezParticipantI respect when someone admits when they’re wrong…..
The Celtics are clear winners in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 11:15am #1077428
Al PerezParticipantI respect when someone admits when they’re wrong…..
The Celtics are clear winners in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:05pm #1077540

Sewok15ParticipantBoston has quality guards already but they were still the 3rd worst team in Three Point Shooting percentage last year. Surprisingly they were still a top 5 scoring team in the league despite their poor shooting. I can see why they would want Brown with his potential especially on defense but a shooter probably could have helped them more in the short term. I think they probably did a decent job with the foreign big guys but only time will tell there.
I still don’t really think they are considered a big winner in my mind…I can name 5 teams I think had better drafts.
1. OKC- They turned Ibaka into Oladipo (They finally have a SG worth playing) Ilyasova and Sabonis. Serge will be missed but he never really took that leap into a great player like I thought he could have. He seemed to be regresssing slightly and wasn’t consistent enough to warrant playing over Kanter and Adams anymore. Ilyasova is both a better rebounder and shooter than Serge but doesn’t give you the same shot blocking presence. Sabonis is a rotational big who will develop nicely with with the young guys they already have.
2. Phoenix- Many people expected the Suns to take Chriss with the 4th overall selection. They went with Bender then ended up gettting Chriss anyway because Sacramento is an inept organization. These players are projects but the Suns need to be patient. They hit big with Booker last year so if one or both of these stretch forwards pan out they will be in great shape with another likely lottery selection in next years loaded draft.
3. Philly- It was hard for them to screw up the #1 overall pick…Simmons was a no brainer for their talent starved roster. I am glad they didn’t make a rushed trade to clear out their log jam at center. They need to see what Embiid has before they move anybody unless you get a great deal. They have more lottery picks coming next year to fill their needs at guard. Korkmaz and Luwawu were great value picks and fit a need for them as athletic wings that can shoot the ball. The Sixers are going to look like the Spurs soon with all their international players.
4. Denver- Jamal Murray was my 3rd rated prospect in this draft and they got him 7th. He can flat out score and will be a perfect fit next to Mudiay in the backcourt. He might not have the two way potential of some of the other top 8 but he comes with an NBA ready jump shot that will immediately improve one of the worst shooting teams in the league. Malik Beasley was another SG who can knock shots down and could be a real sleeper pick. Hernangomez is a stretch 4 that fits a need and they can stash overseas for a year or two.
5.Golden State- Damian Jones is a big guy who I just think is scracthing the surface. We know that is where GSW need the most help especially considering Varajaeo and Ezeli might leave. Adding McCaw in the 2nd round was a huge bonus. His ability to switch on defense and knock down 3’s will fit right in with the Warriors. Obviously the Celtics got better prospects than the Warriors but considering the picks they had to work with I think all these teams did a better job. The beautiful thing about the draft is only time will tell how good these teams really did.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:05pm #1077432

Sewok15ParticipantBoston has quality guards already but they were still the 3rd worst team in Three Point Shooting percentage last year. Surprisingly they were still a top 5 scoring team in the league despite their poor shooting. I can see why they would want Brown with his potential especially on defense but a shooter probably could have helped them more in the short term. I think they probably did a decent job with the foreign big guys but only time will tell there.
I still don’t really think they are considered a big winner in my mind…I can name 5 teams I think had better drafts.
1. OKC- They turned Ibaka into Oladipo (They finally have a SG worth playing) Ilyasova and Sabonis. Serge will be missed but he never really took that leap into a great player like I thought he could have. He seemed to be regresssing slightly and wasn’t consistent enough to warrant playing over Kanter and Adams anymore. Ilyasova is both a better rebounder and shooter than Serge but doesn’t give you the same shot blocking presence. Sabonis is a rotational big who will develop nicely with with the young guys they already have.
2. Phoenix- Many people expected the Suns to take Chriss with the 4th overall selection. They went with Bender then ended up gettting Chriss anyway because Sacramento is an inept organization. These players are projects but the Suns need to be patient. They hit big with Booker last year so if one or both of these stretch forwards pan out they will be in great shape with another likely lottery selection in next years loaded draft.
3. Philly- It was hard for them to screw up the #1 overall pick…Simmons was a no brainer for their talent starved roster. I am glad they didn’t make a rushed trade to clear out their log jam at center. They need to see what Embiid has before they move anybody unless you get a great deal. They have more lottery picks coming next year to fill their needs at guard. Korkmaz and Luwawu were great value picks and fit a need for them as athletic wings that can shoot the ball. The Sixers are going to look like the Spurs soon with all their international players.
4. Denver- Jamal Murray was my 3rd rated prospect in this draft and they got him 7th. He can flat out score and will be a perfect fit next to Mudiay in the backcourt. He might not have the two way potential of some of the other top 8 but he comes with an NBA ready jump shot that will immediately improve one of the worst shooting teams in the league. Malik Beasley was another SG who can knock shots down and could be a real sleeper pick. Hernangomez is a stretch 4 that fits a need and they can stash overseas for a year or two.
5.Golden State- Damian Jones is a big guy who I just think is scracthing the surface. We know that is where GSW need the most help especially considering Varajaeo and Ezeli might leave. Adding McCaw in the 2nd round was a huge bonus. His ability to switch on defense and knock down 3’s will fit right in with the Warriors. Obviously the Celtics got better prospects than the Warriors but considering the picks they had to work with I think all these teams did a better job. The beautiful thing about the draft is only time will tell how good these teams really did.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:23pm #1077546
publius2481ParticipantAs a Celtics fan, I don’t think they had the best draft, but I did like their draft. I have hear people complain that Brown does not fill an immediate need and is a high risk high reward prospect, but I think that is bad logic. First, you should never draft for immediate need. Most players will not be big contributors as rookies, so they will not be big help to your immediate needs. Yes, Brown is a high risk, high reward player, but the Celtics are in a position to take that gamble. They have plenty of good role players, so they are better gambling on a player who could develop into a top 20 player in a few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:23pm #1077439
publius2481ParticipantAs a Celtics fan, I don’t think they had the best draft, but I did like their draft. I have hear people complain that Brown does not fill an immediate need and is a high risk high reward prospect, but I think that is bad logic. First, you should never draft for immediate need. Most players will not be big contributors as rookies, so they will not be big help to your immediate needs. Yes, Brown is a high risk, high reward player, but the Celtics are in a position to take that gamble. They have plenty of good role players, so they are better gambling on a player who could develop into a top 20 player in a few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:23pm #1077548
publius2481ParticipantAs a Celtics fan, I don’t think they had the best draft, but I did like their draft. I have hear people complain that Brown does not fill an immediate need and is a high risk high reward prospect, but I think that is bad logic. First, you should never draft for immediate need. Most players will not be big contributors as rookies, so they will not be big help to your immediate needs. Yes, Brown is a high risk, high reward player, but the Celtics are in a position to take that gamble. They have plenty of good role players, so they are better gambling on a player who could develop into a top 20 player in a few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 12:23pm #1077441
publius2481ParticipantAs a Celtics fan, I don’t think they had the best draft, but I did like their draft. I have hear people complain that Brown does not fill an immediate need and is a high risk high reward prospect, but I think that is bad logic. First, you should never draft for immediate need. Most players will not be big contributors as rookies, so they will not be big help to your immediate needs. Yes, Brown is a high risk, high reward player, but the Celtics are in a position to take that gamble. They have plenty of good role players, so they are better gambling on a player who could develop into a top 20 player in a few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 3:32pm #1077562

For_Never_EverParticipantI can’t tell if your being genuine or not. Other than the Brown pick I didn’t agree with his others. They could be good, but he should have taken a flyer on Damian Jones, Skal or Deyonta Davis. Since they really need a defensive big or just in general a more talented PF or C than what they have on the roster.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 3:32pm #1077455

For_Never_EverParticipantI can’t tell if your being genuine or not. Other than the Brown pick I didn’t agree with his others. They could be good, but he should have taken a flyer on Damian Jones, Skal or Deyonta Davis. Since they really need a defensive big or just in general a more talented PF or C than what they have on the roster.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 3:40pm #1077568

PatrickMurphyParticipantThe Celtics are coming off a 48 win season, have Thomas and Bradley for two more years and there was a perception that Ainge would use his magnificent war chest of assets to push the Celtics closer to being a title contender.
Without any significant moves between now and the start of the season, I don’t see how having a record 8 draft picks really moved the needle for the franchise.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 3:40pm #1077461

PatrickMurphyParticipantThe Celtics are coming off a 48 win season, have Thomas and Bradley for two more years and there was a perception that Ainge would use his magnificent war chest of assets to push the Celtics closer to being a title contender.
Without any significant moves between now and the start of the season, I don’t see how having a record 8 draft picks really moved the needle for the franchise.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 4:00pm #1077572
circumlocution75Participantthe Front Runner for the Josh Jackson 2017 Draft sweepstakes —-
Which means the Celtics became the front runner for Josh Jackson
If it’s true that Boston had chace to swap #3 pick for Noel – that should’ve been a no braier for Aigne
Noel is a Grey-Hound & he is from the Boston area —– If you liked what Tristain Thompson did in the Finals pushing out & wreaking havoc on the Perimeter —– then Celtics fans would Luv Noel b/c he is an athletic Freak who is Taller – Longer & more explosive than Thompson
I realize Noel alone is Not enough to put Boston over the Top —- but he really makes Boston so much more dangerous —- they can get to the 2nd round & maybe the third round right there ——-
Now —- fast forward One year from now & imagine Adding Josh Jackson or Harry Giles to a Celtics line up w/ Isaiah Thomas, Bass, Smart, Crowder & Noel ——- that is a butt Kicking machine of a team —— & Every team in the NBA will Hate to play that team Defense.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 4:00pm #1077465
circumlocution75Participantthe Front Runner for the Josh Jackson 2017 Draft sweepstakes —-
Which means the Celtics became the front runner for Josh Jackson
If it’s true that Boston had chace to swap #3 pick for Noel – that should’ve been a no braier for Aigne
Noel is a Grey-Hound & he is from the Boston area —– If you liked what Tristain Thompson did in the Finals pushing out & wreaking havoc on the Perimeter —– then Celtics fans would Luv Noel b/c he is an athletic Freak who is Taller – Longer & more explosive than Thompson
I realize Noel alone is Not enough to put Boston over the Top —- but he really makes Boston so much more dangerous —- they can get to the 2nd round & maybe the third round right there ——-
Now —- fast forward One year from now & imagine Adding Josh Jackson or Harry Giles to a Celtics line up w/ Isaiah Thomas, Bass, Smart, Crowder & Noel ——- that is a butt Kicking machine of a team —— & Every team in the NBA will Hate to play that team Defense.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 4:05pm #1077578

For_Never_EverParticipantThey went almost straight international man of mystery after taking Brown. When they could have taken athletically gifted bigs that could turn into something. Most cases the bigs always need more time to develop. Plus I think it’s stupid when teams go too European/ international happy like what the Celtics did.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 4:05pm #1077471

For_Never_EverParticipantThey went almost straight international man of mystery after taking Brown. When they could have taken athletically gifted bigs that could turn into something. Most cases the bigs always need more time to develop. Plus I think it’s stupid when teams go too European/ international happy like what the Celtics did.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 8:06pm #1077529

Meditated StatesParticipantSo draft and stash makes sense to me. Smart move in my opinion if there are no good deals.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/25/2016 - 8:06pm #1077636

Meditated StatesParticipantSo draft and stash makes sense to me. Smart move in my opinion if there are no good deals.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2016 - 7:50am #1077629
BeastMode716Participantbut Jaylan Brown at #3? Brown was not impressive at all this past year. I thought his stock would fall even further on Draft Night b/c when you watch him play you just can’t escape how Invisble he is.
I heard Bender’s workout did Not go well for Boston, but I really thought he had the best Upside – especially for Boston – who desperately need one & So many Euro-scouts (who actually saw Bender play) claim he is just as good as Porzingus & Better in areas like "on-Ball" Defense & Outside Shooting.
I think Drafting Bender would’ve been a much better fit; could have contributed immediately w/ Rim protection & outside shooting & would have really created excitement for the Fan Base.
0- Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2016 - 10:50am #1077651

kobyzParticipantBender is the most project than everyone… Right now he is so tentative, overwhelmed as a pro player, even in Israeli league he is not worth playing time right now…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2016 - 10:50am #1077758

kobyzParticipantBender is the most project than everyone… Right now he is so tentative, overwhelmed as a pro player, even in Israeli league he is not worth playing time right now…
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/26/2016 - 7:50am #1077736
BeastMode716Participantbut Jaylan Brown at #3? Brown was not impressive at all this past year. I thought his stock would fall even further on Draft Night b/c when you watch him play you just can’t escape how Invisble he is.
I heard Bender’s workout did Not go well for Boston, but I really thought he had the best Upside – especially for Boston – who desperately need one & So many Euro-scouts (who actually saw Bender play) claim he is just as good as Porzingus & Better in areas like "on-Ball" Defense & Outside Shooting.
I think Drafting Bender would’ve been a much better fit; could have contributed immediately w/ Rim protection & outside shooting & would have really created excitement for the Fan Base.
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