Realistic Celtic Options

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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 10:58am #63803

Celtics3178
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I’ve never poster before but a long time visitor of the site. I was wondering what people think about realistic options for the celtics. Not getting the top two pick in my opinion took us out of trading for a superstar ( Butler, Cousins) however I think we could make some smaller moves that make us better contenders and still rebuild. I think they need to make two trades both for big men. Celtics Trade the # 16 from Dallas and Memphis back there Future pick along with Amir and Jonas who can both be waived for Zach Randolph Celtics Trade #3 pick, rozier for 76ers Jahlil Okafor The celtics need a big man and this gives the sixers a solid young guard and pick of the litter from this years draft. Randolph Salary will be up after next year so we can throw out a Max offer at Gordon Heyward and reunite the college duo.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:27am #1063553

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I agree that the Celtics could make smaller moves and still be contenders next year.
I like the Okafor trade for #3 and Rozier for both teams.
As for the smaller moves the Celtics could make, first I think they should re-sign Turner. Then I would go after a guy like Marvin Williams or Jared Dudley.
Starting 5 would look like…
Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Williams/Dudley
Okafor
Coming off the bench you still have
Smart
Turner
Johnson
Olynyk
Not a bad lineup IMO.

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- Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:30am #1063555
  
  901Grizz
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  They could also add a guy like Taurean Prince at #16 who should be able to contribute on both ends of the floor his first year in the league.
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:30am #1063678
  
  901Grizz
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  They could also add a guy like Taurean Prince at #16 who should be able to contribute on both ends of the floor his first year in the league.
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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:27am #1063676

901Grizz
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I agree that the Celtics could make smaller moves and still be contenders next year.
I like the Okafor trade for #3 and Rozier for both teams.
As for the smaller moves the Celtics could make, first I think they should re-sign Turner. Then I would go after a guy like Marvin Williams or Jared Dudley.
Starting 5 would look like…
Thomas
Bradley
Crowder
Williams/Dudley
Okafor
Coming off the bench you still have
Smart
Turner
Johnson
Olynyk
Not a bad lineup IMO.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:32am #1063680

circumlocution75
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though???? You guys need a shot blocker too……… throw in Marcus Smart & James Young & give the Sixers 2nd round pick back in exchange for Joel Embiid & Ben Simmons…….
Phila is Not trading Jahlil Okafor……… the kid had a Better Rookie season than Boogie Cousins at a younger age on a Much worse team……..
He set a Rookie record for shooting % off the dribble….. Translated, that means he got ZERO easy buckets & had 2 or 3 defenders hanging off him Every time he touched the ball…… but Okafor Still scored 17.5 points a game w/ a 50+ FG%…..
W/ Ben Simmons on the floor Okafor will get single coverage & he will tear apart the Front court of most teams…….
Phila also has about 6 – 1st round picks over the next 3 Drafts…… they are Loaded…… you Might be able to get Noel……. & Noel would be a Fantastic addition to the Celtics b/c Boston Desperately needs an Elite Rim protector & Shot Blocker…….
But I doubt you would get him b/c Phoenix will probably offer Brandon Knight or Eric Bledsoe for Noel…… but Okafor is going No Where…… Phila has 3 Monsters that All draw a double team & I saw an interview w/ P.J. Carlisimo where he claims Dario Saric is going to be close to Porzingus……
Phila is Loaded & they’re Not giving studs away for a pg like Rozier who they can Draft this year w/ the 24th or 26th pick in the 1st round……….. I LUV the Celtics & I was hoping they would get the 1st or 2nd pick…… but the #3 pick doesn’t buy much……. Jamal Murray is going to be a Really good scorer……. but No Way can that pick buy a 19 y/o 7 footer w/ Tim Dunvan’s low post game……

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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:32am #1063557

circumlocution75
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though???? You guys need a shot blocker too……… throw in Marcus Smart & James Young & give the Sixers 2nd round pick back in exchange for Joel Embiid & Ben Simmons…….
Phila is Not trading Jahlil Okafor……… the kid had a Better Rookie season than Boogie Cousins at a younger age on a Much worse team……..
He set a Rookie record for shooting % off the dribble….. Translated, that means he got ZERO easy buckets & had 2 or 3 defenders hanging off him Every time he touched the ball…… but Okafor Still scored 17.5 points a game w/ a 50+ FG%…..
W/ Ben Simmons on the floor Okafor will get single coverage & he will tear apart the Front court of most teams…….
Phila also has about 6 – 1st round picks over the next 3 Drafts…… they are Loaded…… you Might be able to get Noel……. & Noel would be a Fantastic addition to the Celtics b/c Boston Desperately needs an Elite Rim protector & Shot Blocker…….
But I doubt you would get him b/c Phoenix will probably offer Brandon Knight or Eric Bledsoe for Noel…… but Okafor is going No Where…… Phila has 3 Monsters that All draw a double team & I saw an interview w/ P.J. Carlisimo where he claims Dario Saric is going to be close to Porzingus……
Phila is Loaded & they’re Not giving studs away for a pg like Rozier who they can Draft this year w/ the 24th or 26th pick in the 1st round……….. I LUV the Celtics & I was hoping they would get the 1st or 2nd pick…… but the #3 pick doesn’t buy much……. Jamal Murray is going to be a Really good scorer……. but No Way can that pick buy a 19 y/o 7 footer w/ Tim Dunvan’s low post game……

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- Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:45am #1063684
  
  BeastMode716
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  do people ever ask themselves why Phil Jackson didn’t use the Triangle Offense in 2000 w/ Shaq’s Lakers???
  B/c there was Only one Michael Jordan……….. There is Only one Steph Curry…….. No One is building the Golden State Warriors 2.0…… Big men are Still & Always will be at a Premium b/c in the Playoff heat – it Always comes down to Who can get a bucket in the half court in the final 4 minutes of a game…… & Okafor will be a Star in those spots…..
  It doesn’t mean that teams won’t load up on shooters……. but the Sixers should also be smart enough to realize that Okafor at 18 years old w/ all 5 opposing players keying on him & collapsing on him STILL scored 18 ppg & shot over 50% in less than 30 minutes per game……
  At 23 y/o this kid is going to Destroy teams on the block…… I understand why Danny Agigne wants him so bad – Danny Aigne is a Champion & he recognizes Real Talent……
  but now that Phila has a Real basketball man in charge in Bryan Colangelo there is No way he’s handing over a 6’11” 275 lb Kid w/ feet like a dancer, hands like Tim Duncan & a Rear-End like Charles Barkely over to a Division Rival for a n Average PG (Rozier) & an Average 2 guard (Jamal Murray)……
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:45am #1063561
  
  BeastMode716
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  do people ever ask themselves why Phil Jackson didn’t use the Triangle Offense in 2000 w/ Shaq’s Lakers???
  B/c there was Only one Michael Jordan……….. There is Only one Steph Curry…….. No One is building the Golden State Warriors 2.0…… Big men are Still & Always will be at a Premium b/c in the Playoff heat – it Always comes down to Who can get a bucket in the half court in the final 4 minutes of a game…… & Okafor will be a Star in those spots…..
  It doesn’t mean that teams won’t load up on shooters……. but the Sixers should also be smart enough to realize that Okafor at 18 years old w/ all 5 opposing players keying on him & collapsing on him STILL scored 18 ppg & shot over 50% in less than 30 minutes per game……
  At 23 y/o this kid is going to Destroy teams on the block…… I understand why Danny Agigne wants him so bad – Danny Aigne is a Champion & he recognizes Real Talent……
  but now that Phila has a Real basketball man in charge in Bryan Colangelo there is No way he’s handing over a 6’11” 275 lb Kid w/ feet like a dancer, hands like Tim Duncan & a Rear-End like Charles Barkely over to a Division Rival for a n Average PG (Rozier) & an Average 2 guard (Jamal Murray)……
  
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 3:25am #1063795
  
  markfitz14
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  You just shattered my dreams. Well explained
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 3:25am #1063919
  
  markfitz14
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  You just shattered my dreams. Well explained
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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:45am #1063682

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Draft Bender at 3, hope he develops into an impact player.
I’d take a big run at a guy like Festus Ezeli in free agency because Boston needs impact bigs. I would shoot for a young guy though rather than try to sign a guy like Howard but he wouldn’t be a terrible option either.

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Posted on: Thu, 05/19/2016 - 11:45am #1063559

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Draft Bender at 3, hope he develops into an impact player.
I’d take a big run at a guy like Festus Ezeli in free agency because Boston needs impact bigs. I would shoot for a young guy though rather than try to sign a guy like Howard but he wouldn’t be a terrible option either.

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- Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 5:55am #1063947
  
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  …but that dude Bender just scares me. I’ve read that generally fans have a phobia of European bigs, but I feel like it’s for good reason with all the examples the last fifteen years of busts and misses. I want to believe in him but I think I’d be more comfortable with… anyone else lol.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 5:55am #1063823
  
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  …but that dude Bender just scares me. I’ve read that generally fans have a phobia of European bigs, but I feel like it’s for good reason with all the examples the last fifteen years of busts and misses. I want to believe in him but I think I’d be more comfortable with… anyone else lol.
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Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 6:29am #1063975

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They should trade the pick this year for Okafor and retain the swap pick next year as I think it will be more valuable. Okafor is a big upgrade from Sullinger. I agree with going after a guy like Ezeli or Biyombo to get more shot blocking and rebounding inside.
Next year’s draft is loaded next year. Keep that pick and trade this one.

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Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 6:29am #1063851

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They should trade the pick this year for Okafor and retain the swap pick next year as I think it will be more valuable. Okafor is a big upgrade from Sullinger. I agree with going after a guy like Ezeli or Biyombo to get more shot blocking and rebounding inside.
Next year’s draft is loaded next year. Keep that pick and trade this one.

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Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 6:39am #1063985

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I agree with the idea that they take BPA and that Ainge considers all options around draft time, if he thinks he can make a great move then go for it.
I’ve talked a lot on other posts that Ainge can go into FA season with the 3rd pick drafted and possibly move it then if they gain a top FA or a better deal shakes out. I’ll also put in a note don’t forget in 2007 – Ainge flipped 5th pick Jeff Green and pieces for Ray Allen and then traded for KG a few weeks later leading to 2008 title win.
If Ainge can get a top player in via 3rd pick or other pieces and he thinks it will help him land a top FA or another star via a further trade then watch out for this too.
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Posted on: Fri, 05/20/2016 - 6:39am #1063861

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I agree with the idea that they take BPA and that Ainge considers all options around draft time, if he thinks he can make a great move then go for it.
I’ve talked a lot on other posts that Ainge can go into FA season with the 3rd pick drafted and possibly move it then if they gain a top FA or a better deal shakes out. I’ll also put in a note don’t forget in 2007 – Ainge flipped 5th pick Jeff Green and pieces for Ray Allen and then traded for KG a few weeks later leading to 2008 title win.
If Ainge can get a top player in via 3rd pick or other pieces and he thinks it will help him land a top FA or another star via a further trade then watch out for this too.
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