No Love for Irving?

When you play with lebron you will be judged by what you do in the finals not what you do vs an 8 seed in the east. He did what he is suppose to do. 

Do you expect a gold star everytime you do what u were suppose to do at work. I don’t think. Show it to me in the finals.

When you play with lebron you will be judged by what you do in the finals not what you do vs an 8 seed in the east. He did what he is suppose to do. 

Do you expect a gold star everytime you do what u were suppose to do at work. I don’t think. Show it to me in the finals.

 Well… That was against Reggie Jackson and the Detroit Pistons.. An 8th seed that the Cavs should’ve been blowing out every game. 

I am not a big fan of Irving, but he has played well no doubt. I think people are calling him overrated because when Lebron came to Cleveland, people started saying that Cleveland will be as good as Miami was because irving and Love are an upgrade from Wade and Bosh. I think we all can see that isn’t the case, but Irving and love are still really good players.

 Well… That was against Reggie Jackson and the Detroit Pistons.. An 8th seed that the Cavs should’ve been blowing out every game. 

I am not a big fan of Irving, but he has played well no doubt. I think people are calling him overrated because when Lebron came to Cleveland, people started saying that Cleveland will be as good as Miami was because irving and Love are an upgrade from Wade and Bosh. I think we all can see that isn’t the case, but Irving and love are still really good players.

Don’t be dissapoited in us lol. Be dissapointed at the casual fans who only comment based on stats and headlines without even watching actual games. I for one have always been a Kyrie fan and have always been defending him in this site in some posts. 

And remember that time rumors were spread by Stephen A. Smith that Irving wanted out of Cleveland? After the Cavs lost like 2 straight games? What happened to those rumors and "inside sources" now lol. I can’t believe people actually believed that. Media always wants to find a way to garner more attention, especially at the expense of other players. I just can’t believe how so little people gave Irving the benefit of the doubt and think outside the box in that situation.

Don’t be dissapoited in us lol. Be dissapointed at the casual fans who only comment based on stats and headlines without even watching actual games. I for one have always been a Kyrie fan and have always been defending him in this site in some posts. 

And remember that time rumors were spread by Stephen A. Smith that Irving wanted out of Cleveland? After the Cavs lost like 2 straight games? What happened to those rumors and "inside sources" now lol. I can’t believe people actually believed that. Media always wants to find a way to garner more attention, especially at the expense of other players. I just can’t believe how so little people gave Irving the benefit of the doubt and think outside the box in that situation.

I think a part of it could be his playstyle and the fact that he plays with LeBron.  People that don’t actually watch the games think the LeBron effect just gives Kyrie a lot of open looks.  The Cavs use Kyrie in iso situations more so than they use LeBron and it was Kyrie that had the ball in the closing moments of the game last night, not LeBron.  Additionally, Kyrie overdribbles way too much.  His ballhandling skills are so amazing that it can be impressive to watch, but I can see how it turns off people.  Many people don’t even consider Kyrie as a PG, just a scorer in a PG’s body.   Kyrie is incredibly skilled, but I think he needs to become a better floor general and defender, and find ways to utilize less dribbles on his scoring moves as it gets him in trouble a lot.    

I think a part of it could be his playstyle and the fact that he plays with LeBron.  People that don’t actually watch the games think the LeBron effect just gives Kyrie a lot of open looks.  The Cavs use Kyrie in iso situations more so than they use LeBron and it was Kyrie that had the ball in the closing moments of the game last night, not LeBron.  Additionally, Kyrie overdribbles way too much.  His ballhandling skills are so amazing that it can be impressive to watch, but I can see how it turns off people.  Many people don’t even consider Kyrie as a PG, just a scorer in a PG’s body.   Kyrie is incredibly skilled, but I think he needs to become a better floor general and defender, and find ways to utilize less dribbles on his scoring moves as it gets him in trouble a lot.    

I’m a huge Kyrie Irving fan, and I’m a bit surprised by the relative lack of attention his performances have been getting. Team circumstances, team chemistry and health will always be a thing, but I think Kyrie is showing what makes him a tough matchup for any guard in the league — and that includes Stephen Curry.

Kyrie is not a traditional pg, and he dribbles too much at times, but his turnover rate is low and he is an absolutely devestating scorer. He is literally unguardable. 

I think what makes Kyrie special is his quickness, agility and most importantly, his incredibly polished offensive arsenal. I think he is the most complete scorer in the league, and when I watch a trainwreck like James Harden, or even the 3pointer, or all the way to the rim Damian Lillard, I appreciate Kyrie’s abilities even more. 

Harden, though a better player than irving, simply cannot score at will in the same way that irving can. He shoots a pedestrian 36% from midrange and about the same from 3point range and just looks helpless at times. When Harden doesn’t get a head of steam, he has average quickness and rarely gets a clean look at the basket. Sometimes it looks as if Harden doesn’t even plan on making the shot, just getting fouled. I think its because he doesn’t have an amazing first step and he isn’t a two foot jumper, so he doesn’t have too much stability in mid-air.

When Harden can’t get a clean look at the rim, he just chucks ill-advised three pointers or just tries to get fouled. Thats literally it. Meanwhile, Kyrie is a threat to score very efficiently from absolutely everywhere inside the halfcourt. He’ll hit a fadeaway midrange jumper at any time, off the dribble or off the catch. He’ll knock down the 3ball with range out to 30 feet … off the dribble or off the catch. On the off chance he doesn’t completely blow by you with his handle and quickness, he’ll toss in a floater, or pull-up for a short range jumper. And then if he does get to the rim, he finishes better with both hands than any point guard in the league.

Kyrie doesn’t need foul calls, he doesn’t need to be on a hot streak, he isn’t streaky … he just gets buckets at any time, any place because he has the most polished scoring skills the league has seen since prime Kobe Bean Bryant. Chris Paul is also up there. Curry is the league’s best scorer, but he doesn’t have a post game. 

I don’t know if the rockets would be in the playoffs if Kyrie was on their team instead of Harden, but there is absolutely no way he’d shoot under 40% like Harden is doing right now. Kyrie is an incredibly talented isolation scorer, and that’s what people should take from all of this. Its the first round, yes, but youre going to see Kyrie keep it up no matter who he faces in the future rounds, and by the end of the playoffs (if he’s healthy), you’ll start hearing him talked about as a top 5 PG once more.

I’m a huge Kyrie Irving fan, and I’m a bit surprised by the relative lack of attention his performances have been getting. Team circumstances, team chemistry and health will always be a thing, but I think Kyrie is showing what makes him a tough matchup for any guard in the league — and that includes Stephen Curry.

Kyrie is not a traditional pg, and he dribbles too much at times, but his turnover rate is low and he is an absolutely devestating scorer. He is literally unguardable. 

I think what makes Kyrie special is his quickness, agility and most importantly, his incredibly polished offensive arsenal. I think he is the most complete scorer in the league, and when I watch a trainwreck like James Harden, or even the 3pointer, or all the way to the rim Damian Lillard, I appreciate Kyrie’s abilities even more. 

Harden, though a better player than irving, simply cannot score at will in the same way that irving can. He shoots a pedestrian 36% from midrange and about the same from 3point range and just looks helpless at times. When Harden doesn’t get a head of steam, he has average quickness and rarely gets a clean look at the basket. Sometimes it looks as if Harden doesn’t even plan on making the shot, just getting fouled. I think its because he doesn’t have an amazing first step and he isn’t a two foot jumper, so he doesn’t have too much stability in mid-air.

When Harden can’t get a clean look at the rim, he just chucks ill-advised three pointers or just tries to get fouled. Thats literally it. Meanwhile, Kyrie is a threat to score very efficiently from absolutely everywhere inside the halfcourt. He’ll hit a fadeaway midrange jumper at any time, off the dribble or off the catch. He’ll knock down the 3ball with range out to 30 feet … off the dribble or off the catch. On the off chance he doesn’t completely blow by you with his handle and quickness, he’ll toss in a floater, or pull-up for a short range jumper. And then if he does get to the rim, he finishes better with both hands than any point guard in the league.

Kyrie doesn’t need foul calls, he doesn’t need to be on a hot streak, he isn’t streaky … he just gets buckets at any time, any place because he has the most polished scoring skills the league has seen since prime Kobe Bean Bryant. Chris Paul is also up there. Curry is the league’s best scorer, but he doesn’t have a post game. 

I don’t know if the rockets would be in the playoffs if Kyrie was on their team instead of Harden, but there is absolutely no way he’d shoot under 40% like Harden is doing right now. Kyrie is an incredibly talented isolation scorer, and that’s what people should take from all of this. Its the first round, yes, but youre going to see Kyrie keep it up no matter who he faces in the future rounds, and by the end of the playoffs (if he’s healthy), you’ll start hearing him talked about as a top 5 PG once more.

 Haters are gonna hate, players are gonna play, ballers are gonna ball, shotcallers are gonna call.

 Haters are gonna hate, players are gonna play, ballers are gonna ball, shotcallers are gonna call.

 I think its all about what people are expecting from Kyrie. When you talk about great PGs, it normally comes with players having the ability to effortlesly set up their teamates. Unfortunately Kyrie is going to get hated on because he doesn’t do that as often as the other elite PGs. Thats probably not because he cant, but because he’s playing alongside the greatest passing SF of all time. Fact is, the type of player Lebron needs as his starting PG is exactly what Kyrie does. 

 I think its all about what people are expecting from Kyrie. When you talk about great PGs, it normally comes with players having the ability to effortlesly set up their teamates. Unfortunately Kyrie is going to get hated on because he doesn’t do that as often as the other elite PGs. Thats probably not because he cant, but because he’s playing alongside the greatest passing SF of all time. Fact is, the type of player Lebron needs as his starting PG is exactly what Kyrie does. 

I’m a fan of Kyrie, but you can’t compare Wall missing the playoffs to how Irving has played. I think most people would remember what Wall did in the playoffs last year, and how they had a great chance at making the ECF if he was healthy and played every game. Also, one of the 2 plays with Lebron James and Kevin Love, and the other doesn’t

I’m a fan of Kyrie, but you can’t compare Wall missing the playoffs to how Irving has played. I think most people would remember what Wall did in the playoffs last year, and how they had a great chance at making the ECF if he was healthy and played every game. Also, one of the 2 plays with Lebron James and Kevin Love, and the other doesn’t

 I think the Irving "hate" has more to do with what people were expecting him to be coming out of college. 

When I watch him, I see a guy that is more concerned about "getting his" than running the team. He’s not a great defender…though I guess I don’t see him being the worst defender either. He’s a really good scorer, but it just seems like he has a hard time playing with other guys. When he has the ball, it stops. Maybe that’s the system, maybe its the guys he’s playing with but it just seems like the ball sticks to him when he touches it. 

I thought he’d be a much better facilitator and a Chris Paul type of player where he clearly isn’t that guy. Doesn’t mean he isnt a good player because he obviously is. But I’m not sure you can say with full confidence that he makes his teammates better. 

Then you read and hear things like he doesn’t want to play with LeBron and he wants to be "the man" on his own team. I don’t know if that’s true. It’s Cleveland. It’s LeBron…there’s always pointless drama but if that is the case, that says a lot about his lack of character. Again, not sure if its true, but when I watch him play, it doesnt take a lot of imagination to think he’s more concerned with putting up stats than winning. And if that’s the case, more power to him. 

 I think the Irving "hate" has more to do with what people were expecting him to be coming out of college. 

When I watch him, I see a guy that is more concerned about "getting his" than running the team. He’s not a great defender…though I guess I don’t see him being the worst defender either. He’s a really good scorer, but it just seems like he has a hard time playing with other guys. When he has the ball, it stops. Maybe that’s the system, maybe its the guys he’s playing with but it just seems like the ball sticks to him when he touches it. 

I thought he’d be a much better facilitator and a Chris Paul type of player where he clearly isn’t that guy. Doesn’t mean he isnt a good player because he obviously is. But I’m not sure you can say with full confidence that he makes his teammates better. 

Then you read and hear things like he doesn’t want to play with LeBron and he wants to be "the man" on his own team. I don’t know if that’s true. It’s Cleveland. It’s LeBron…there’s always pointless drama but if that is the case, that says a lot about his lack of character. Again, not sure if its true, but when I watch him play, it doesnt take a lot of imagination to think he’s more concerned with putting up stats than winning. And if that’s the case, more power to him.