Thibodeau wants FULL CONTROL for Twolves Job

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:20pm #63430

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources–tom-thibodeau-pursuing-full-team-control-185614502.html
Tom Thibodeau is pursuing the Minnesota Timberwolves’ president of basketball operations and coaching job because of his determination to have full control of an organization, league sources told The Vertical.
Thibodeau wants to have final say on player personnel, organizational philosophy and hirings, league sources said, and that’s only available with the Minnesota opening now.
If he doesn’t end up with Minnesota, Thibodeau will still consider coaching jobs without full control, but his preference is clearly to have it, league sources said.
The lure of hiring his own general manager and constructing a contender around Karl-Anthony Towns and Andrew Wiggins has made Thibodeau more determined in pursuit of the Minnesota job, league sources said. Minnesota ownership is completing its meetings with Thibodeau and Jeff Van Gundy on Monday and is expected to move quickly in making an offer, league sources said.
Thibodeau’s appetite for organizational power has been unmistakable to Timberwolves owner Glen Taylor in the process, league sources said.
Several teams with openings have interest in Thibodeau as a coach, including Washington and Houston, but those organizations aren’t offering full control, sources said. The Sacramento coaching job is open, but Thibodeau has no interest in the Kings’ organization, sources said.
The search firm Korn Ferry has been influential in the Minnesota process and has recommended this coach-as-president structure to Taylor, league sources said. Among the NBA executives Korn Ferry leans on for advice, Thibodeau has had significant allies and support, sources said.
Korn Ferry was instrumental in the hiring of Stan Van Gundy as president and coach with the Detroit Pistons, and the firm has been a strong advocate of the two finalists in Minnesota: Thibodeau and Jeff Van Gundy.
Taylor is expected to be willing to pay a $7 million-a-year package to an elite candidate, comparable to Stan Van Gundy’s deal with Detroit, league sources said.
Thibodeau spent time this season traveling around the NBA and studying franchise models, San Antonio and Detroit among them. How Thibodeau handles power – and how he interacts with a GM that reports to him as president – is a source of intrigue and curiosity around the league.
After five successful seasons as coach of the Chicago Bulls, Thibodeau was fired in 2015 largely because of his inability to work with management.
Korn Ferry has already started to identify possible general manager candidates to pair with a new president and coach in Minnesota, including San Antonio Spurs assistant GM Scott Layden and Memphis Grizzlies executive VP of player personnel Ed Stefanski, league sources said. Layden (Utah and New York) and Stefanski (Philadelphia) each have GM experience in the NBA.
Milt Newton is the Timberwolves GM now, and it is unclear how – or if – he would continue in any organizational role if Taylor goes through with the hiring of one of his top two candidates.
Jeff Van Gundy is intrigued with the structure that his brother, Stan, employs in Detroit, but that hasn’t been a driving factor in his desire to return to coaching, league sources said. Jeff Van Gundy has been diligent in considering potential coaching situations in which he can have a strong working relationship and shared vision with a potential team’s current GM and owner, league sources said.
Jeff Van Gundy is at the top of the Houston Rockets’ list of potential candidates along with Thibodeau, league sources said. Jeff Van Gundy resigned as Rockets coach in 2007 after four seasons and still lives in Houston.
The Rockets won’t begin a coaching search until the team’s postseason ends. Houston is trailing Golden State 1-0 in their Western Conference first-round series. Jeff Van Gundy doesn’t discuss jobs with teams who have a coach in place, and J.B. Bickerstaff has been the Rockets’ interim coach since the firing of Kevin McHale in November.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:22pm #1055799

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Thibs is a good coach but I fear for the youngsters of Minny. Remember what he did to the Bulls, yeah they were a great team during his time with them but the extended minutes on his starters (Deng, Noah, Rose and Butler) took a toll on their bodies.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:22pm #1055674

DondiJohn
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Thibs is a good coach but I fear for the youngsters of Minny. Remember what he did to the Bulls, yeah they were a great team during his time with them but the extended minutes on his starters (Deng, Noah, Rose and Butler) took a toll on their bodies.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 6:22pm #1055823
  
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  I’m not buying that. Did Thibs play his best players too much? Yes, but he was coaching a contender that had a chance to win the East. Looking back do you think he would do some things different? Yes, and I think his year off traveling around the league has probably made him think more about how to keep his teams stars healthy. I can’t say I’m all that worried about a coach who is going to play our young stars a ton of minutes. I just sat through a season of way too much tayshaun prince to be that worried about towns Wiggins lavine Rubio Shabazz Gorgui are going to be getting too much minutes? I’ve been begging for that all season. Besides Wiggins who played 35 mpg and Towns no one really played over 30 mins per game. Rubio at 30 Zach at 28 and Shabazz at 20 is all too low. These guys are young they can play a lot of minutes and I think it is good for them. With that in mind you probably can’t be killing guys at practice if they’re playing 35-40 mins, so if Thibs is trying to do that I could see it being bad but overall I am super excited to see what thibs can do with these guys.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 6:22pm #1055698
  
  Snowta
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  I’m not buying that. Did Thibs play his best players too much? Yes, but he was coaching a contender that had a chance to win the East. Looking back do you think he would do some things different? Yes, and I think his year off traveling around the league has probably made him think more about how to keep his teams stars healthy. I can’t say I’m all that worried about a coach who is going to play our young stars a ton of minutes. I just sat through a season of way too much tayshaun prince to be that worried about towns Wiggins lavine Rubio Shabazz Gorgui are going to be getting too much minutes? I’ve been begging for that all season. Besides Wiggins who played 35 mpg and Towns no one really played over 30 mins per game. Rubio at 30 Zach at 28 and Shabazz at 20 is all too low. These guys are young they can play a lot of minutes and I think it is good for them. With that in mind you probably can’t be killing guys at practice if they’re playing 35-40 mins, so if Thibs is trying to do that I could see it being bad but overall I am super excited to see what thibs can do with these guys.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 7:08pm #1055827
  
  wonzi_bells
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  Apparrently, it was always going to be this way with Glen Taylor. He really wants the next head coach to be President of Basketball Operations (POBO) as well like Saunders was.
  If he’s going to do that, I’m much more comfortable with Van Gundy than Thibodeau. I get the feel like Thibodeau wants to be the only voice in the room and wouldn’t foster an organization that would allow different ideas and diverse perspectives to be shared. Having synergy is one thing but totalitarianism is another.
  Van Gundy seems like he has the better communication skills in order to handle the POBO role as well. Looking at coaches who’ve done terrible moves with that kind of power, they tend to be guys who think too much like coaches (i.e. short-term approach rather than the long, lack of perspective, etc) and I think Thibodeau who falls in that camp while Van Gundy, to me at least, won’t.
  And yes, Van Gundy has been out of the league since 2007 but if there ever was a former coach that I give both of those positions to after a lengthy time off, it’s be JVG. All the figures who he either surrounded himself with or associated with while he was with the Rockets, as well as the Knicks, are all instrumental figures in shaping what the game is today, whether it was Thibs as one of his assistants growing into one of the greatest defensive minds in league history or Steve Clifford doing the same and constructing a top defense without a rim protector and having his Hornets turn into a great shooting team. Whether it’s having other top assistants like Mike Longabardi, Andy Greer and Patrick Ewing, all of which are great defensive coordinators for their respective teams. I didn’t even mention his brother, Stan, which has done pretty well in a similar position as the top guy with the Pistons but both offensively and defensively revolutionalized the league in his time with the Magic. Also, JVG got to know guys like Daryl Morey, who actually fired him, and Sam Hinke, who were there while he was with the Rockets.
  Now, I remember listening to the Vertical Podcast with Woj when JVG was on and he mentioned that the one thing he needs to brush up for today’s NBA is surrounding himself with great offensive minds, which all those assistant coaches I mentioned are all defensive specialists. His Rockets’ team were typically middling in offensive ratings but they were upper echelon in 3PA rate, finishing first in his last year. So, he’ll have to lure one of the leading offensive-minded assistants, which he doesn’t really have one in his circle.
  Also, I have major concern with Scott Layden being mentioned. He has currently been with the Spurs since 2012 as their Asst. GM and was a prominent fixture in creating the Malone-Stockton-Sloan Jazz with his father, Frank, but when he got his first role as GM in 1999 with the Knicks, he lead them to what was the start of the collaspe of the post-Ewing era Knicks with the Allen Houston signing, drafted Fredric Weis, who never came over (thank you very much Mr Carter), traded Nene for an injured Antonio McDyess and cash-strapped the Knicks for years. Stefanski didn’t do all that much with his time both with the Nets and Sixers. He’s not connected with Van Gundy or Thibodeau at all but he is currently with the Grizzlies, so that might be a Dave Joerger connection.
  If they hire a GM voice with either JVG or Thibs, I want them to get Gersson Rosas, who’s with the Rockets and who’s considered one of the top Asst. GMs in the league and was there when both JVG and his staff were on the team in 2007.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 7:08pm #1055702
  
  wonzi_bells
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  Apparrently, it was always going to be this way with Glen Taylor. He really wants the next head coach to be President of Basketball Operations (POBO) as well like Saunders was.
  If he’s going to do that, I’m much more comfortable with Van Gundy than Thibodeau. I get the feel like Thibodeau wants to be the only voice in the room and wouldn’t foster an organization that would allow different ideas and diverse perspectives to be shared. Having synergy is one thing but totalitarianism is another.
  Van Gundy seems like he has the better communication skills in order to handle the POBO role as well. Looking at coaches who’ve done terrible moves with that kind of power, they tend to be guys who think too much like coaches (i.e. short-term approach rather than the long, lack of perspective, etc) and I think Thibodeau who falls in that camp while Van Gundy, to me at least, won’t.
  And yes, Van Gundy has been out of the league since 2007 but if there ever was a former coach that I give both of those positions to after a lengthy time off, it’s be JVG. All the figures who he either surrounded himself with or associated with while he was with the Rockets, as well as the Knicks, are all instrumental figures in shaping what the game is today, whether it was Thibs as one of his assistants growing into one of the greatest defensive minds in league history or Steve Clifford doing the same and constructing a top defense without a rim protector and having his Hornets turn into a great shooting team. Whether it’s having other top assistants like Mike Longabardi, Andy Greer and Patrick Ewing, all of which are great defensive coordinators for their respective teams. I didn’t even mention his brother, Stan, which has done pretty well in a similar position as the top guy with the Pistons but both offensively and defensively revolutionalized the league in his time with the Magic. Also, JVG got to know guys like Daryl Morey, who actually fired him, and Sam Hinke, who were there while he was with the Rockets.
  Now, I remember listening to the Vertical Podcast with Woj when JVG was on and he mentioned that the one thing he needs to brush up for today’s NBA is surrounding himself with great offensive minds, which all those assistant coaches I mentioned are all defensive specialists. His Rockets’ team were typically middling in offensive ratings but they were upper echelon in 3PA rate, finishing first in his last year. So, he’ll have to lure one of the leading offensive-minded assistants, which he doesn’t really have one in his circle.
  Also, I have major concern with Scott Layden being mentioned. He has currently been with the Spurs since 2012 as their Asst. GM and was a prominent fixture in creating the Malone-Stockton-Sloan Jazz with his father, Frank, but when he got his first role as GM in 1999 with the Knicks, he lead them to what was the start of the collaspe of the post-Ewing era Knicks with the Allen Houston signing, drafted Fredric Weis, who never came over (thank you very much Mr Carter), traded Nene for an injured Antonio McDyess and cash-strapped the Knicks for years. Stefanski didn’t do all that much with his time both with the Nets and Sixers. He’s not connected with Van Gundy or Thibodeau at all but he is currently with the Grizzlies, so that might be a Dave Joerger connection.
  If they hire a GM voice with either JVG or Thibs, I want them to get Gersson Rosas, who’s with the Rockets and who’s considered one of the top Asst. GMs in the league and was there when both JVG and his staff were on the team in 2007.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:41pm #1055803

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As much as the new-era NBA players need to age, mature, and enhance discipline…
Coaches should be held responsible.
As sad as the Bulls look now, defunct, out of gas, no will to play…
Thibs is partly responsible for driving the whip too hard. So if he wants to be President, he better be willing to concede his mistakes.
With Wiggins and Towns he has two strong defensive pieces to establish his system.
I like both Van Gundy and Thibs going there. Its a good promising job.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:41pm #1055678

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As much as the new-era NBA players need to age, mature, and enhance discipline…
Coaches should be held responsible.
As sad as the Bulls look now, defunct, out of gas, no will to play…
Thibs is partly responsible for driving the whip too hard. So if he wants to be President, he better be willing to concede his mistakes.
With Wiggins and Towns he has two strong defensive pieces to establish his system.
I like both Van Gundy and Thibs going there. Its a good promising job.

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- Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 3:10am #1055861
  
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  If Tom Tibodeau was completely to blame, then a season without him should have seen the Bulls team being the healthiest they’ve been in a long time. That clearly wasn’t the case. Some guys are just injury prone. I do agree Thibs overplayed his key guys while he was in Chicago and I imagine, if he’s as smart as he seems, that he’s learned that too in his hear of observing different organizations. Thibs is the best available coach and I’d absolutely give him a shot with the young T-Wolves with a few provisions.
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 3:10am #1055736
  
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  If Tom Tibodeau was completely to blame, then a season without him should have seen the Bulls team being the healthiest they’ve been in a long time. That clearly wasn’t the case. Some guys are just injury prone. I do agree Thibs overplayed his key guys while he was in Chicago and I imagine, if he’s as smart as he seems, that he’s learned that too in his hear of observing different organizations. Thibs is the best available coach and I’d absolutely give him a shot with the young T-Wolves with a few provisions.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:56pm #1055805

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As a Wolves fan, the idea of Thibs is exciting, and horrifying at the same time.
No coach is perfect, at least not one that is available, so you’ve got to live with some of the shortcomings. But his scare me because I fear it could be the kind of thing that damages a team after he’s gone.
I wish this Wolves team was two years further ahead in their rebuild. I think this team, two years from now, would be perfect for a Thibodou to come in and elevate to another level.
I fear that if he comes in now, they’ll win more games, maybe even get to the playoffs, but they’ll skip a necessary development step that they’ll need to reach their ceiling. Maybe I’m way overthinking things but that’s where I’m nervous on him.
He’s a terrific coach, and the team desperately needs a defensive guy to get them going in that direction.
The full control thing also makes me nervous, because there aren’t a lot of successful teams with that model.
I’m still interested in Thibs, though I’d love to see if Joeger gets fired. HE shouldn’t, but the owner is a nut job, so its possible. I’d say he’d be my top choice…though there’s a lot of "IF" in that scenario.
I’ll take Thibs over Brooks or any other random retreat type any day.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 3:56pm #1055680

Biggysmalls
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As a Wolves fan, the idea of Thibs is exciting, and horrifying at the same time.
No coach is perfect, at least not one that is available, so you’ve got to live with some of the shortcomings. But his scare me because I fear it could be the kind of thing that damages a team after he’s gone.
I wish this Wolves team was two years further ahead in their rebuild. I think this team, two years from now, would be perfect for a Thibodou to come in and elevate to another level.
I fear that if he comes in now, they’ll win more games, maybe even get to the playoffs, but they’ll skip a necessary development step that they’ll need to reach their ceiling. Maybe I’m way overthinking things but that’s where I’m nervous on him.
He’s a terrific coach, and the team desperately needs a defensive guy to get them going in that direction.
The full control thing also makes me nervous, because there aren’t a lot of successful teams with that model.
I’m still interested in Thibs, though I’d love to see if Joeger gets fired. HE shouldn’t, but the owner is a nut job, so its possible. I’d say he’d be my top choice…though there’s a lot of "IF" in that scenario.
I’ll take Thibs over Brooks or any other random retreat type any day.

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 4:12pm #1055807

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You guys have valid concerns but I would hire Thibs in a heartbeat if I was Minnesota. Thibs may have overused that Bulls roster but they won all the time even through weird injuries.
Wiggins and Towns have been marvelous when it comes to durability. Wiggins 163 of 164 games played at just under 36 minutes per game. Towns 82 of 82 games played at 32 minutes per game.
Bottom line is Minnesota has been rebuilding for a long long time and they deserve to do whatever it takes to win. They have all the talent now it’s time to put someone in place to get the most out of it. Thibs is a perfect match with the T-Wolves. T stands for Thibs!

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 4:12pm #1055682

OhCanada-
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You guys have valid concerns but I would hire Thibs in a heartbeat if I was Minnesota. Thibs may have overused that Bulls roster but they won all the time even through weird injuries.
Wiggins and Towns have been marvelous when it comes to durability. Wiggins 163 of 164 games played at just under 36 minutes per game. Towns 82 of 82 games played at 32 minutes per game.
Bottom line is Minnesota has been rebuilding for a long long time and they deserve to do whatever it takes to win. They have all the talent now it’s time to put someone in place to get the most out of it. Thibs is a perfect match with the T-Wolves. T stands for Thibs!

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 4:36pm #1055811

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Thibs first act as the Czar of the Minnesota TWolves is to impliment a new mandatory off-season daily workout routine of 10×10 reps of bench and squats at max weight followed by running 15 miles. During the season, Minnesota will have full live practices every day which will include defensive slides with 100 lb weights tied to the players backs, wind sprints holding raw meat while actual timberwolves chase them, rebounding drills that include boxing out silverback gorrilas. Practices will end with a full wrestling/grapling/striking/mma session with Brock Lesnar, with fim study to round things out. Games will followed with full 5-5 scrimmages with no fouls called.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 4:36pm #1055686

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Thibs first act as the Czar of the Minnesota TWolves is to impliment a new mandatory off-season daily workout routine of 10×10 reps of bench and squats at max weight followed by running 15 miles. During the season, Minnesota will have full live practices every day which will include defensive slides with 100 lb weights tied to the players backs, wind sprints holding raw meat while actual timberwolves chase them, rebounding drills that include boxing out silverback gorrilas. Practices will end with a full wrestling/grapling/striking/mma session with Brock Lesnar, with fim study to round things out. Games will followed with full 5-5 scrimmages with no fouls called.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 5:12pm #1055817
  
  OhCanada-
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  See he’s lightened up quite a bit. At least he’s not making them do two-a-days.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 5:12pm #1055692
  
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  See he’s lightened up quite a bit. At least he’s not making them do two-a-days.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 8:53pm #1055843
  
  Mopgrass
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  Boxing out gorillas isn’t so bad. Boxing out guerrillas… that’s dangerous.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 8:53pm #1055718
  
  Mopgrass
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  Boxing out gorillas isn’t so bad. Boxing out guerrillas… that’s dangerous.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 8:24pm #1055839

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Look how the Bulls fell apart just one year after Thibs left…… I realize there were other issues……..
But Athletes Crave Structure, Discipline & Consistency……. Let Thibs build an Entire Culture in that Building…..
Minny has some absolute Throughbreds & if they truly want to be great they will want someone who can push them…….
Let Thibs Build something special there….. We’re not taking into account how Impossible it must have been for Thibs in Chicago when you Know your Bosses are under-cutting you behind the scenes……
I’d luv to see what Thibs can do w/ an Organization that actually Supports his Program…..

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Posted on: Mon, 04/18/2016 - 8:24pm #1055714

NBAjunkie81
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Look how the Bulls fell apart just one year after Thibs left…… I realize there were other issues……..
But Athletes Crave Structure, Discipline & Consistency……. Let Thibs build an Entire Culture in that Building…..
Minny has some absolute Throughbreds & if they truly want to be great they will want someone who can push them…….
Let Thibs Build something special there….. We’re not taking into account how Impossible it must have been for Thibs in Chicago when you Know your Bosses are under-cutting you behind the scenes……
I’d luv to see what Thibs can do w/ an Organization that actually Supports his Program…..

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 12:55am #1055857

Hitster
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The T-Wolves is an interesting job for any coach and if they are offering overall power to the appointee then a lot of big names with both NBA and College experience will be interested. Flip had not really intended to coach and if he had lived, I’m sure he would have groomed a successor and moved back upstairs.
Giving one person total power over all front office and coaching appointments is a bit dangerous unless that person is totally accountable. Ideally one person puts together the front office, hires the coach who then can choose his assistants.

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 12:55am #1055732

Hitster
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The T-Wolves is an interesting job for any coach and if they are offering overall power to the appointee then a lot of big names with both NBA and College experience will be interested. Flip had not really intended to coach and if he had lived, I’m sure he would have groomed a successor and moved back upstairs.
Giving one person total power over all front office and coaching appointments is a bit dangerous unless that person is totally accountable. Ideally one person puts together the front office, hires the coach who then can choose his assistants.

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 2:05am #1055859

omphalos
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Thibs is a great fit if he’s interested in this job because these guys are all coachable – especially Towns and need to be pushed harder to make the playoffs.
However, I could see Lavine getting benched for his defensive lapses and have his growth stunted.
Whether it’s JVG, Thibs or Joeger, the T’Wolves should be an attractive destination for any coach because of the opportunity to work with Towns and Wiggins.

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 2:05am #1055734

omphalos
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Thibs is a great fit if he’s interested in this job because these guys are all coachable – especially Towns and need to be pushed harder to make the playoffs.
However, I could see Lavine getting benched for his defensive lapses and have his growth stunted.
Whether it’s JVG, Thibs or Joeger, the T’Wolves should be an attractive destination for any coach because of the opportunity to work with Towns and Wiggins.

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 6:38am #1055746

markfitz14
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Thib can make Wiggins close to DPOY.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 6:38am #1055871

markfitz14
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Thib can make Wiggins close to DPOY.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 6:38am #1055748

morestealsthanscores
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Am I the only one that thinks thibs would be GREAT in Washington? Look at his best team in Derrick Rosie’s map season, look at the current wizards roster, and tell me that he couldn’t get this team to the eastern conference finals. He could take wall and beal to the next level. Porter and Morris would also be good thibs guys.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 6:38am #1055873

morestealsthanscores
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Am I the only one that thinks thibs would be GREAT in Washington? Look at his best team in Derrick Rosie’s map season, look at the current wizards roster, and tell me that he couldn’t get this team to the eastern conference finals. He could take wall and beal to the next level. Porter and Morris would also be good thibs guys.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 11:16am #1055800

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They need to seal the deal with Thibodeaux. The Bulls had their best seasons since Jordan retired under his coaching. Glen Taylor needs a guy to come in a make decisions so he doesn’t have to.
It will be tough for a solid basketball guy to screw up what Flip started with the solid core of young players, high draft pick and solid cap situation. In the few short years since Flip came back he made a team that was basically just Kevin Love and turned it into a team that any coach would love to take over.
I am excited to watch this team as it matures and Taylor deserves credit for recognizing that even though Sam Mitchell did a good job this team deserves to have the best coaching available going forward.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 11:16am #1055925

PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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They need to seal the deal with Thibodeaux. The Bulls had their best seasons since Jordan retired under his coaching. Glen Taylor needs a guy to come in a make decisions so he doesn’t have to.
It will be tough for a solid basketball guy to screw up what Flip started with the solid core of young players, high draft pick and solid cap situation. In the few short years since Flip came back he made a team that was basically just Kevin Love and turned it into a team that any coach would love to take over.
I am excited to watch this team as it matures and Taylor deserves credit for recognizing that even though Sam Mitchell did a good job this team deserves to have the best coaching available going forward.
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 11:43am #1055804

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I believe Thibodeaus influenced a lot of the Bulls Draft decisions as far as wanting Jimmy Butler and Drafting Taj Gibson, I think Thibodeau wasnt so keen on Mirotic and McDermott and thats what started most of the friction between the bulls front-office… Paxson and Gar Forman used signed players to create a mutiny against Thibs ala Pau Gasol, the irony of it all is the Thibs players are starting a mutiny against Hoiberg.
Thibodeau is borderline obsessive when it comes to the game of basketball, the guy is an amazing coach.. And also has a great eye for talent, He just needs a day to day operations guy on his side..

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 11:43am #1055929

Robb_C
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I believe Thibodeaus influenced a lot of the Bulls Draft decisions as far as wanting Jimmy Butler and Drafting Taj Gibson, I think Thibodeau wasnt so keen on Mirotic and McDermott and thats what started most of the friction between the bulls front-office… Paxson and Gar Forman used signed players to create a mutiny against Thibs ala Pau Gasol, the irony of it all is the Thibs players are starting a mutiny against Hoiberg.
Thibodeau is borderline obsessive when it comes to the game of basketball, the guy is an amazing coach.. And also has a great eye for talent, He just needs a day to day operations guy on his side..

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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 12:20pm #1055806

Hitster
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With Thibs having worked under JVG at the Knicks and at Houston and them having good success at both teams. I wonder if the two of them may look to link up again, one as Head of Front Office and the other as Head Coach and sell themselves as a joint package.
JVG would be a good person to keep Thibs in check and with JVG not having coached for 9 years, it would make sense for Thibs to do the Coaching. Pay both equal money and you could be onto a winner.
Amazing to think that Thibs took so many years to get a head coaching gig given his success as an assistant across 20 plus seasons.

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- Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 1:36pm #1055818
  
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  It wasnt that Thibs never recieved job offers, he was just waiting for a situation like the bulls to develop.. He actually almost became the wizarda head coach right when Ernie took the gm job
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- Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 1:36pm #1055943
  
  Robb_C
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  It wasnt that Thibs never recieved job offers, he was just waiting for a situation like the bulls to develop.. He actually almost became the wizarda head coach right when Ernie took the gm job
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Posted on: Tue, 04/19/2016 - 12:20pm #1055931

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With Thibs having worked under JVG at the Knicks and at Houston and them having good success at both teams. I wonder if the two of them may look to link up again, one as Head of Front Office and the other as Head Coach and sell themselves as a joint package.
JVG would be a good person to keep Thibs in check and with JVG not having coached for 9 years, it would make sense for Thibs to do the Coaching. Pay both equal money and you could be onto a winner.
Amazing to think that Thibs took so many years to get a head coaching gig given his success as an assistant across 20 plus seasons.

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