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- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:15pm #63288
negguaryParticipantSam Heinke has officially stepped down!!! I know people don’t like him but I am a true die hard Sixers fan and think this is horrible for the tem!! He truly made the necessary move in order for this franchise to have a TRUE chance at winning. I now believe that Jerry will recklessly spend just to get a quick fix. Then again we do have tons of picks. Just would have liked to see the guy get a chance to see the fruits of his labor. Why do you think he suddenly steeped down?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:20pm #1052505
220ParticipantStepping down looks better than getting fired. I imagine those were his choices. I’m surprised it took this long since Jerry Colangelo came and took over.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:20pm #1052374
220ParticipantStepping down looks better than getting fired. I imagine those were his choices. I’m surprised it took this long since Jerry Colangelo came and took over.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:20pm #1052507
SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantbecause there wasn’t a viable center in this years draft..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:20pm #1052376
SeattleSuperChronicsParticipantbecause there wasn’t a viable center in this years draft..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:26pm #1052513
Magic JordanParticipantProbably smart getting rid of him (or letting him "step down") before he can make any more draft selections. Great at accumulating assets (I guess) but pretty poor at using them.
Trust the process…. does this mean that the process in fact, was not to be trusted?
As I called the day Coangelo was hired by the NBA for the 76ers, this has Philly getting the number one pick written all over it. They don’t want Hinkie around to mess it up.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:26pm #1052382
Magic JordanParticipantProbably smart getting rid of him (or letting him "step down") before he can make any more draft selections. Great at accumulating assets (I guess) but pretty poor at using them.
Trust the process…. does this mean that the process in fact, was not to be trusted?
As I called the day Coangelo was hired by the NBA for the 76ers, this has Philly getting the number one pick written all over it. They don’t want Hinkie around to mess it up.
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:27pm #1052515
220ParticipantI’d have to say you can not in fact trust the process.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:27pm #1052384
220ParticipantI’d have to say you can not in fact trust the process.
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:30pm #1052519
Magic JordanParticipantThere are no shortcuts in life.
In other news, Nepotism at it’s finest could be taking place with Bryan Coangelo as the rumored favorite to replace him.
Most disappointing thing about this is we don’t get to see Thon Maker be the first pick in the draft anymore. I’m sure Hinkies dream lineup would be Saric at the PG, Maker at the 2, Noel at the 3, Okafor at the 4, Embiid at the 5.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:30pm #1052388
Magic JordanParticipantThere are no shortcuts in life.
In other news, Nepotism at it’s finest could be taking place with Bryan Coangelo as the rumored favorite to replace him.
Most disappointing thing about this is we don’t get to see Thon Maker be the first pick in the draft anymore. I’m sure Hinkies dream lineup would be Saric at the PG, Maker at the 2, Noel at the 3, Okafor at the 4, Embiid at the 5.
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:38pm #1052521
negguaryParticipantCall the guy what you want, nut you can’t sit here and say you guess he’s great at accumulating assets. Say what you want about the guy, but if you look at the state the team was in before he got here and the upside and assets compared to what we have now he clearly is an expert in that department. We had maybe one true building bloc at the time Jrue Holdiay who hasn’t played a full season since leaving. Jru Holiday who Heinke turned into a top ten pick which in turn, is Dario Saric and a 2017 first round pick that the previous regime loss in a robbery to the magic, AND Nerlens Noel. In addition to this, that trade eliminated the “talent” that would prevent us from getting a quality draft pick and the “talent” that at best would get you a first round exit. In that same night he drafted the next year’s ROY and turned him into thank you to your beloved lakers potentially a top five pick. By the way the Bucks are trying to trade him now as well. He’s also owed tow first round picks in this years draft from Miami and OKC. Oh yeah and Jahlil Okafor is pretty good. Not to mention people turn their nose up at him drafting EMBID but who else do you suggest we draft? Exum wait he tore his ACL. Randell wait he also kissed his whole rookie season. WAIT what f EMbid plays and actually lives up to his potential what is the perception of the pick then. Not to mention that at worse you can trade the one of the big men who don’t fit, which makes them also assets.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 2:38pm #1052390
negguaryParticipantCall the guy what you want, nut you can’t sit here and say you guess he’s great at accumulating assets. Say what you want about the guy, but if you look at the state the team was in before he got here and the upside and assets compared to what we have now he clearly is an expert in that department. We had maybe one true building bloc at the time Jrue Holdiay who hasn’t played a full season since leaving. Jru Holiday who Heinke turned into a top ten pick which in turn, is Dario Saric and a 2017 first round pick that the previous regime loss in a robbery to the magic, AND Nerlens Noel. In addition to this, that trade eliminated the “talent” that would prevent us from getting a quality draft pick and the “talent” that at best would get you a first round exit. In that same night he drafted the next year’s ROY and turned him into thank you to your beloved lakers potentially a top five pick. By the way the Bucks are trying to trade him now as well. He’s also owed tow first round picks in this years draft from Miami and OKC. Oh yeah and Jahlil Okafor is pretty good. Not to mention people turn their nose up at him drafting EMBID but who else do you suggest we draft? Exum wait he tore his ACL. Randell wait he also kissed his whole rookie season. WAIT what f EMbid plays and actually lives up to his potential what is the perception of the pick then. Not to mention that at worse you can trade the one of the big men who don’t fit, which makes them also assets.
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:05pm #1052527
220ParticipantMy biggest complaint regarding Hinkie is the fact that instead of adding NBA talent level players who just needed an opportunity he waived them in order to add players who didn’t belong in the NBA at all. I didn’t love the Joel Embiid pick since he’s proven to be injury prone and they drafted Nerlens Noel the year before after he had a major injury. Embiid may prove he was worth the wait, but I imagine choices like Embiid is part of the reason Hinkie felt he needed to step down. I imagine once Jerry Colangelo was brought in Sam Hinkie’s voice was marginalized because the team doesn’t have much in the form of definite building blocks moving forward right now.
Plus as was already mentioned drafting three centers in a row who don’t have complementary skill sets in the top 10 is kind of crazy. The possibility to trade one or two of them certainly exists but it just made the team frustrating to watch the last few seasons.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:05pm #1052396
220ParticipantMy biggest complaint regarding Hinkie is the fact that instead of adding NBA talent level players who just needed an opportunity he waived them in order to add players who didn’t belong in the NBA at all. I didn’t love the Joel Embiid pick since he’s proven to be injury prone and they drafted Nerlens Noel the year before after he had a major injury. Embiid may prove he was worth the wait, but I imagine choices like Embiid is part of the reason Hinkie felt he needed to step down. I imagine once Jerry Colangelo was brought in Sam Hinkie’s voice was marginalized because the team doesn’t have much in the form of definite building blocks moving forward right now.
Plus as was already mentioned drafting three centers in a row who don’t have complementary skill sets in the top 10 is kind of crazy. The possibility to trade one or two of them certainly exists but it just made the team frustrating to watch the last few seasons.
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:00pm #1052525
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantLavine ^^^^
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:00pm #1052394
Taylor Gang MikeParticipantLavine ^^^^
0- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:12pm #1052531
negguaryParticipant^^^^^
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:12pm #1052400
negguaryParticipant^^^^^
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 7:42pm #1052482
TeslaBallerParticipantWould you rather have Zach Lavine or Dario Saric and Phillys 1st round pick back from Orlando?
Drafting Lavine would have been nice but trading down 2 picks and getting your own 1st round pick back is the move to make 10 out of 10 times.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 7:42pm #1052612
TeslaBallerParticipantWould you rather have Zach Lavine or Dario Saric and Phillys 1st round pick back from Orlando?
Drafting Lavine would have been nice but trading down 2 picks and getting your own 1st round pick back is the move to make 10 out of 10 times.
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- Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:53pm #1052539
mamadouParticipantOfficially joining david in the Kahntheon…
Ingram is coming.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:53pm #1052408
mamadouParticipantOfficially joining david in the Kahntheon…
Ingram is coming.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 5:55pm #1052454
properbreaksParticipantI’m all for rebuilding, but the problem was he did it for 3 years and didn’t care at all about the team that they put on the court while they were chasing the dream with more draft picks. At some point you have to sign new players and at least resign your draft picks. He seemed not to care about either which to me was the last straw. Who do you think that he drafted, was going to re-up with the 76ers? Nobody that I know of.
They reminded me of the late 80s Clippers….. They were the star of draft night with several first high first rounders and of dreams, but in the end they couldn’t keep any of their draft picks and they’d go somewhere else via free agency or they’d trade them. Nobody wants to lose and feel like their is no hope of not losing.0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 5:55pm #1052584
properbreaksParticipantI’m all for rebuilding, but the problem was he did it for 3 years and didn’t care at all about the team that they put on the court while they were chasing the dream with more draft picks. At some point you have to sign new players and at least resign your draft picks. He seemed not to care about either which to me was the last straw. Who do you think that he drafted, was going to re-up with the 76ers? Nobody that I know of.
They reminded me of the late 80s Clippers….. They were the star of draft night with several first high first rounders and of dreams, but in the end they couldn’t keep any of their draft picks and they’d go somewhere else via free agency or they’d trade them. Nobody wants to lose and feel like their is no hope of not losing.0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 6:43pm #1052466
publius2481ParticipantIt was clear ownership had lost faith in him. Supposedly he wanted to draft Zinger and ownership made him take Okafor (btw, Porzingis would fit perfectly with the Sixers). Then they bring in an experienced front office person to help sign free agents. Pretty sure he saw the writing on the wall.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 6:43pm #1052596
publius2481ParticipantIt was clear ownership had lost faith in him. Supposedly he wanted to draft Zinger and ownership made him take Okafor (btw, Porzingis would fit perfectly with the Sixers). Then they bring in an experienced front office person to help sign free agents. Pretty sure he saw the writing on the wall.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 6:59pm #1052472
Hype MachineI’ll give Hinkie credit for achieving his goals….I don’t like what Philly did, because I believe there’s a certain ‘spirit-of-the-game’ involved in all sports…but he didn’t break any rules.
He was the face of an organisation-wide rebuilding strategy that was completely unprecedented. He took all the heat, and made all the moves. The guys obviously got a lot of backbone, and doesn’t care what anyone else thinks about him.
He wasn’t working alone, and would have had the approval of the Owner and the rest of the Execs. As for carrying out his job description, I’m not sure you could have done it any better. He had to get rid of fringe talent, avoid drafting for need so he can keep getting horrible records. It’s systematic tanking…and he took the heat so that it didn’t fall on the players or coach since they were helpless.
Fired…Resigned…its irrelevent. His job is done and the next part of the process lies with someone else.
If someone else wants to attempt the same strategy in the future, Hinkie would probably get a call. The NBA would hate it…but he’s the man for the job.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 6:59pm #1052602
Hype MachineI’ll give Hinkie credit for achieving his goals….I don’t like what Philly did, because I believe there’s a certain ‘spirit-of-the-game’ involved in all sports…but he didn’t break any rules.
He was the face of an organisation-wide rebuilding strategy that was completely unprecedented. He took all the heat, and made all the moves. The guys obviously got a lot of backbone, and doesn’t care what anyone else thinks about him.
He wasn’t working alone, and would have had the approval of the Owner and the rest of the Execs. As for carrying out his job description, I’m not sure you could have done it any better. He had to get rid of fringe talent, avoid drafting for need so he can keep getting horrible records. It’s systematic tanking…and he took the heat so that it didn’t fall on the players or coach since they were helpless.
Fired…Resigned…its irrelevent. His job is done and the next part of the process lies with someone else.
If someone else wants to attempt the same strategy in the future, Hinkie would probably get a call. The NBA would hate it…but he’s the man for the job.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 8:36pm #1052502
NBAjunkie81ParticipantBut no matter how I or anyone else feels about Phila’s Rebuild……… I find it Troublesome that the NBA stepped in & seemingly forced Jerry Colangelo on them……. or at the very least talked Ownership into pulling the plug on Hinkie being charge……
I’ve heard / read that Hinkie & Ownership began to Riff at last June’s 2015 NBA Draft when Hinke planned to take Porzingus w/ the # 3 pick…….. And Ownership (who are NY Residents) feared a fan revolt if they passed on Okafor b/c the team had just announced Joel Embiid would miss a 2nd year……
How do you guys feel about that? & Have any of you heard / read similar rumors / stories?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 8:36pm #1052632
NBAjunkie81ParticipantBut no matter how I or anyone else feels about Phila’s Rebuild……… I find it Troublesome that the NBA stepped in & seemingly forced Jerry Colangelo on them……. or at the very least talked Ownership into pulling the plug on Hinkie being charge……
I’ve heard / read that Hinkie & Ownership began to Riff at last June’s 2015 NBA Draft when Hinke planned to take Porzingus w/ the # 3 pick…….. And Ownership (who are NY Residents) feared a fan revolt if they passed on Okafor b/c the team had just announced Joel Embiid would miss a 2nd year……
How do you guys feel about that? & Have any of you heard / read similar rumors / stories?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 9:07pm #1052508
Hype MachineFirstly…The League is responsible to the 30 franchises, and not the other way around.
The league stepped in because the 76ers were working against the best interests of 29 Owners who rightfully considered them a drain on the over quality of the product.
Its fine that 1 team has taken this strategy..but what if 4 or 5 do it simultaneously. The race to the bottom gets fiercer, and the parity of the competition is reduced.
Is it troublesome that 29 owners intervened…not to me. The only troublesome aspect is that it took so long to do so…but they dug their own grave with their draft and lottery system..combined with revenue sharing. In any other Sport, the 76ers would be broke, relegated or suspended for tanking. Not in the NBA.
I dont believe Hinkie had troubles…his time was up. It had ran its natural course. I dont believe he was ever the long term solution. Just a patsy for the inevidible heat that was coming using their strategy…which he was paid handsomely to do.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 04/06/2016 - 9:07pm #1052638
Hype MachineFirstly…The League is responsible to the 30 franchises, and not the other way around.
The league stepped in because the 76ers were working against the best interests of 29 Owners who rightfully considered them a drain on the over quality of the product.
Its fine that 1 team has taken this strategy..but what if 4 or 5 do it simultaneously. The race to the bottom gets fiercer, and the parity of the competition is reduced.
Is it troublesome that 29 owners intervened…not to me. The only troublesome aspect is that it took so long to do so…but they dug their own grave with their draft and lottery system..combined with revenue sharing. In any other Sport, the 76ers would be broke, relegated or suspended for tanking. Not in the NBA.
I dont believe Hinkie had troubles…his time was up. It had ran its natural course. I dont believe he was ever the long term solution. Just a patsy for the inevidible heat that was coming using their strategy…which he was paid handsomely to do.
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