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- Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 1:58pm #63175

valentineThis is an American thing…and its ridiculous how sensative teams are about it. It creates more dramas than anything else…
How does it make an opposition team feel better about themselves by taking it easy on them? If anything…its a total slap in the face to disrespect a team so much that you feel like they’re only worthy of half your effort.
Would Roger Federer ever let an opponent win a few games in tennis cos he felt like he was whooping them so bad?
Would Ronda Rousey let an opponent slip in a few kidney shots in the final round?
Would Lionel Messi stop trying to score goals once the score got to 3-0 with 10 mins to go?
Now I’m all for substituting lesser players in, or avoiding unneccessary risks to avoid injury, or wasting time to protect a lead etc.
But letting a shotclock run out before the gameclock and voluntarily taking a turnover is garbage. It doesnt happen in other basketball leagues. Ive seen some similar junk in American Football where teams are purposely trying not to score? Play the damn game til the end the way its meant to be played! Its an insult to the opposition!
I think this concept of ‘Running up the score’ is Political Correctness gone mad. Take the ass whipping like a man. It builds character. You also wont get moronic situations like the Coach K scandal.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:14pm #1049937
phila9012ParticipantMessi would stop putting pressure on the other teams goal if his team was up 3-0 with 10 minutes to go. In soccer/football teams usually just pass the ball around in the last 10 to 15 minutes if they are up by 2 or more goals.
You can’t really compare tennis and ufc because federer needs to score to end the game. Rousey usually KOs and if she doesn’t she can always end it sooner with a KO so it makes sense not to let up. In soccer and basketball you are stuck playing a time limit, not to a score.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:14pm #1049806
phila9012ParticipantMessi would stop putting pressure on the other teams goal if his team was up 3-0 with 10 minutes to go. In soccer/football teams usually just pass the ball around in the last 10 to 15 minutes if they are up by 2 or more goals.
You can’t really compare tennis and ufc because federer needs to score to end the game. Rousey usually KOs and if she doesn’t she can always end it sooner with a KO so it makes sense not to let up. In soccer and basketball you are stuck playing a time limit, not to a score.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:38pm #1049941

DukeDaSquadParticipantRunning the score up is when a team unneccessarily scores when the match is pretty much decided. In the Duke case, youre ending a team’s season so there are some emotions in play. It is disrespectful, no doubt about it. Thats why you see so many teams dribble out the shotclock to end games
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:38pm #1049810

DukeDaSquadParticipantRunning the score up is when a team unneccessarily scores when the match is pretty much decided. In the Duke case, youre ending a team’s season so there are some emotions in play. It is disrespectful, no doubt about it. Thats why you see so many teams dribble out the shotclock to end games
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:51pm #1049945
mercyman25ParticipantMove on. The shot clock was running down he shot the ball, big deal. Tonight Oklahoma gave the Ducks a beatdown. Get over it, it’s not like he was scooting his butt across the Duke logo on the court.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 2:51pm #1049814
mercyman25ParticipantMove on. The shot clock was running down he shot the ball, big deal. Tonight Oklahoma gave the Ducks a beatdown. Get over it, it’s not like he was scooting his butt across the Duke logo on the court.
0- Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 12:50pm #1049866

ChoppyParticipantI’d have been more worried if the shot and game clocks were the same, running down to the final whistle and he shoots the same shot. That would be a little disrespectful.
Also, because he shot it from near half court, I think he fully expected to miss. It wasn’t like he was working his way inside for a high percentage shot, he took a half court prayer because to him a miss was better than getting a turnover. It just happened to go in. I agree. Move on.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 12:50pm #1049998

ChoppyParticipantI’d have been more worried if the shot and game clocks were the same, running down to the final whistle and he shoots the same shot. That would be a little disrespectful.
Also, because he shot it from near half court, I think he fully expected to miss. It wasn’t like he was working his way inside for a high percentage shot, he took a half court prayer because to him a miss was better than getting a turnover. It just happened to go in. I agree. Move on.
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- Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 3:59pm #1049947

HitsterParticipantTeams will rarely try to run up a score in a game which is clearly won because the coach will have benched his key guys to save them for the next match. Kobe’s 62 point game when he didn’t play in the 4th quarter is a good example or how Coach Poppovich will keep his key player’s minutes as low as possible.
It becomes a bit disrespectful if a team started showboating or trying Globetrotter type moves.
In tennis a player tries to win a match as quickly as possible, in football if Barcelona are clearly winning then Lionel Messi would probably be substituted on some occasions.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 3:59pm #1049816

HitsterParticipantTeams will rarely try to run up a score in a game which is clearly won because the coach will have benched his key guys to save them for the next match. Kobe’s 62 point game when he didn’t play in the 4th quarter is a good example or how Coach Poppovich will keep his key player’s minutes as low as possible.
It becomes a bit disrespectful if a team started showboating or trying Globetrotter type moves.
In tennis a player tries to win a match as quickly as possible, in football if Barcelona are clearly winning then Lionel Messi would probably be substituted on some occasions.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 6:38pm #1049955

raybeasParticipantare 1on1 players, so there’s really no comparison to a team sport with them.
Running up the score is mainly a problem at the lowest levels of competition. High school girls games I’ve seen in the past few years with scores of 104-5 or 88-2 are unavoidable sometimes when one school is better than another.
At a pro or semi-pro level, which I would say the Sweet 16 would qualify, it is only a concern if you will definitely see that team again in the near future. You don’t want a team you see often to remember the 40 point beatdown (or 10 pt if you are hockey or soccer) you put on them in one of your down years while they are strong.
For teams like Oregon and Duke, who rarely see each other, it’s probably not an important factor.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 6:38pm #1049824

raybeasParticipantare 1on1 players, so there’s really no comparison to a team sport with them.
Running up the score is mainly a problem at the lowest levels of competition. High school girls games I’ve seen in the past few years with scores of 104-5 or 88-2 are unavoidable sometimes when one school is better than another.
At a pro or semi-pro level, which I would say the Sweet 16 would qualify, it is only a concern if you will definitely see that team again in the near future. You don’t want a team you see often to remember the 40 point beatdown (or 10 pt if you are hockey or soccer) you put on them in one of your down years while they are strong.
For teams like Oregon and Duke, who rarely see each other, it’s probably not an important factor.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 7:58pm #1049961

DolanCareParticipantRunning up the score is not disrespectful, in and of itself. The problem comes from attacking while the other side admits defeat. You shouldn’t capitalize when a team pulls their starters or stops playing defense during the final possession.
If the clock is going down, with the match already decided and the defending team is letting it the game end, it is simply poor form to jack up a shot. Definitely not the worst thing in the world but an example of bad sportsmanship in my opinion.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 7:58pm #1049830

DolanCareParticipantRunning up the score is not disrespectful, in and of itself. The problem comes from attacking while the other side admits defeat. You shouldn’t capitalize when a team pulls their starters or stops playing defense during the final possession.
If the clock is going down, with the match already decided and the defending team is letting it the game end, it is simply poor form to jack up a shot. Definitely not the worst thing in the world but an example of bad sportsmanship in my opinion.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 8:32pm #1049963
Hype MachineIt doesnt happen in other leagues around the world.
There is no ‘admitting defeat’. And there is no problem if a guy shoots an open 3 or fancy breakaway dunk with 2seconds left. Both teams play hard til the end.
They play til the final possession. Its strictly an American thing to make a big deal about it.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 8:32pm #1049832
Hype MachineIt doesnt happen in other leagues around the world.
There is no ‘admitting defeat’. And there is no problem if a guy shoots an open 3 or fancy breakaway dunk with 2seconds left. Both teams play hard til the end.
They play til the final possession. Its strictly an American thing to make a big deal about it.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 10:52pm #1049965

MopgrassParticipantTo me, a good game isn’t 101 to 100, it’s when my team destroys 132 to 41.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 03/26/2016 - 10:52pm #1049834

MopgrassParticipantTo me, a good game isn’t 101 to 100, it’s when my team destroys 132 to 41.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 1:12am #1049967

Meditated StatesParticipantAt all times. A brake away at the end of the game deserves a highlight dunk. Grown men should be able to deal with it. Anyone thinking otherwise should honestly k! ££ themselves. Its a game. Destroy your opponent and entertain with highlight dunks.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 1:12am #1049836

Meditated StatesParticipantAt all times. A brake away at the end of the game deserves a highlight dunk. Grown men should be able to deal with it. Anyone thinking otherwise should honestly k! ££ themselves. Its a game. Destroy your opponent and entertain with highlight dunks.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 12:59pm #1049868

ChoppyParticipantI was asked to not run up the score once. I am a rugby league coach for high school aged kids and this one year, we had a really good team (so good we were best in our state at one point). In one of the qualifying tournaments, the organisers could see we were going to run up the score on everyone we played so they asked me if I’d get my team to take their foot off the gas after we got a lead so the other teams wouldn’t be too demoralised. I told them I couldn’t ask my team not to play hard, but what I did was sub out all my best players (as many as I could anyway) then play a heap of guys out of position. I told them it was practice to cover in case we got injuries and it had the desired effect (they played us level in the second half).
I don’t have a problem with running up the score, but in younger teams it might be best to look at how it might affect their confidence. College basketballers should have no such problems.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/27/2016 - 12:59pm #1050000

ChoppyParticipantI was asked to not run up the score once. I am a rugby league coach for high school aged kids and this one year, we had a really good team (so good we were best in our state at one point). In one of the qualifying tournaments, the organisers could see we were going to run up the score on everyone we played so they asked me if I’d get my team to take their foot off the gas after we got a lead so the other teams wouldn’t be too demoralised. I told them I couldn’t ask my team not to play hard, but what I did was sub out all my best players (as many as I could anyway) then play a heap of guys out of position. I told them it was practice to cover in case we got injuries and it had the desired effect (they played us level in the second half).
I don’t have a problem with running up the score, but in younger teams it might be best to look at how it might affect their confidence. College basketballers should have no such problems.
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