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  • #63148
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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     Would an average boys high school varsity team beat the UCONN women’s team? 

     

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  • #1049424
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    holefillers1
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     Yes. They routinely do

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  • #1049292
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    holefillers1
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     Yes. They routinely do

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  • #1049434
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    gopack10
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    I honestly love this question.  I’ve had similar discussions with friends over the years about our college intramural teams beating women’s college teams.

    And in my opinion, an organized high school men’s team could and should beat the UConn women’s team.  It is just a completely different game.  And once you move past UConn and maybe a few other top tier women’s teams then it wouldn’t even be close.

    The issue is with conditioning for just a bunch of random guys trying to do this because these women are some the top female athletes in the world and would run circles around men who aren’t in shape.  But an organized men’s high school team would be in shape so that doesn’t come into play.

    I’ve personally played against a few female players from my college team and I could routinely lock them down on defense and then get whatever shot I wanted in the lane on offense.  And I’m no great talent in basketball.  Just an average pickup player.

    And that isn’t a knock on the women playing college basketball, just a reality that it is a completely different game.

    And the ball you are playing with would make a difference because you couldn’t ask woment to play with a men’s ball and then men might not be able to shoot a smaller women’s ball as easily but could palm/dribble/dunk easier.

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  • #1049302
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    gopack10
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    I honestly love this question.  I’ve had similar discussions with friends over the years about our college intramural teams beating women’s college teams.

    And in my opinion, an organized high school men’s team could and should beat the UConn women’s team.  It is just a completely different game.  And once you move past UConn and maybe a few other top tier women’s teams then it wouldn’t even be close.

    The issue is with conditioning for just a bunch of random guys trying to do this because these women are some the top female athletes in the world and would run circles around men who aren’t in shape.  But an organized men’s high school team would be in shape so that doesn’t come into play.

    I’ve personally played against a few female players from my college team and I could routinely lock them down on defense and then get whatever shot I wanted in the lane on offense.  And I’m no great talent in basketball.  Just an average pickup player.

    And that isn’t a knock on the women playing college basketball, just a reality that it is a completely different game.

    And the ball you are playing with would make a difference because you couldn’t ask woment to play with a men’s ball and then men might not be able to shoot a smaller women’s ball as easily but could palm/dribble/dunk easier.

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  • #1049444
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     Wow I rarely call out general moral ignorance online just because you cant tell them.their an idiot to their face but this is sexism 100%. I feel for the most part since geno has been coaching at Uconn atleast (for the most part) 2 women go to the wnba sometimes more than 2,after the year. A couple i assume go over seas. These are the best college bball players as an unit the women’s game has to offer with pros on the team. Y’all and whoeverg else really think a boys highschool team varsity, AAU or otherwise who just because their in shape & "some" can dunk could beat the UConn women huskies? Hell how many high school boys on top.teams will even play d-2 college ball? Mostly these top teams have a handful of super talented guys the rest are fillers who are decent compared to the other thousands of 5’7-5-10 highschool boys players around the nation. I have an older cousin who is a girl who got a full rude to play college ball & I never beat her 1 on 1. This uncivilized general male ego ignorance is another aspect within the full spectrum of life that how far this world still has to come.

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  • #1049312
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    Stop_basketball_nonsense
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     Wow I rarely call out general moral ignorance online just because you cant tell them.their an idiot to their face but this is sexism 100%. I feel for the most part since geno has been coaching at Uconn atleast (for the most part) 2 women go to the wnba sometimes more than 2,after the year. A couple i assume go over seas. These are the best college bball players as an unit the women’s game has to offer with pros on the team. Y’all and whoeverg else really think a boys highschool team varsity, AAU or otherwise who just because their in shape & "some" can dunk could beat the UConn women huskies? Hell how many high school boys on top.teams will even play d-2 college ball? Mostly these top teams have a handful of super talented guys the rest are fillers who are decent compared to the other thousands of 5’7-5-10 highschool boys players around the nation. I have an older cousin who is a girl who got a full rude to play college ball & I never beat her 1 on 1. This uncivilized general male ego ignorance is another aspect within the full spectrum of life that how far this world still has to come.

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    • #1049452
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       I played for a boarding school in New England and we use to scrimmage the local WNBA team. To be blunt we would dominate them, like the other posters said it’s a different game. It isn’t sexism to acknowledge differences between men and woman. Now my team was full of future division one players so it wasn’t an average highschool team, however UCONN’s Womans team is a step down from the professional team so I would think that the average solid highschool program could beat UCONN. 

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    • #1049320
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       I played for a boarding school in New England and we use to scrimmage the local WNBA team. To be blunt we would dominate them, like the other posters said it’s a different game. It isn’t sexism to acknowledge differences between men and woman. Now my team was full of future division one players so it wasn’t an average highschool team, however UCONN’s Womans team is a step down from the professional team so I would think that the average solid highschool program could beat UCONN. 

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      • #1049466
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         What team? Are you sure it was a WNBA team! U feel like after your story you would be blunt about making the name if the team evident, also given the very outworldly chance your being truthful I can gurantee they were not ayung serious, the diffrence between men and women at the same level pro vs pro & down ucabt argue but a whole level suffrence is difficult ri see& two or more kevels between is impossible unless the girls just flat out suck. In the case if UConn women & a WNBA team I hold with firm conviction to my statement.

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      • #1049334
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         What team? Are you sure it was a WNBA team! U feel like after your story you would be blunt about making the name if the team evident, also given the very outworldly chance your being truthful I can gurantee they were not ayung serious, the diffrence between men and women at the same level pro vs pro & down ucabt argue but a whole level suffrence is difficult ri see& two or more kevels between is impossible unless the girls just flat out suck. In the case if UConn women & a WNBA team I hold with firm conviction to my statement.

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  • #1049347
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    gopack10
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    Being truthful about something is far from being sexist.  I don’t believe anyone is knocking what these women are athletically by suggesting this.  If, for some reason, we were questioning their athletic ability and saying that they weren’t athletes because they aren’t playing a man’s game…THAT would be sexist.

    I don’t understand your animosity towards this issue.  The game is completely different on a number of different levels.  As I noted above, the deciding which ball to play with would be huge in this particular scenario.  And your argument about a "whole level suffrence" (assuming you meant difference) makes no sense.  One level is HUGE when discussing something like this.  By your assumption that we can only compare level by level, a men’s college team couldn’t beat a WNBA team, which we all know makes zero sense.

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    • #1049359
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      Stop_basketball_nonsense
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       See that’s another reason u call out people on this site they respond with conviction without reading what someone says. I said a women team on higher level losing to another men’s team on a level.power was difficult. Now I did say losing to a mens team down 2 levels was impossible, like a WNBA team losing to a highschool boys team or a college d-1 team losing to a jv highschool team unless they the womens team sucks.

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    • #1049492
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       See that’s another reason u call out people on this site they respond with conviction without reading what someone says. I said a women team on higher level losing to another men’s team on a level.power was difficult. Now I did say losing to a mens team down 2 levels was impossible, like a WNBA team losing to a highschool boys team or a college d-1 team losing to a jv highschool team unless they the womens team sucks.

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  • #1049479
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    Being truthful about something is far from being sexist.  I don’t believe anyone is knocking what these women are athletically by suggesting this.  If, for some reason, we were questioning their athletic ability and saying that they weren’t athletes because they aren’t playing a man’s game…THAT would be sexist.

    I don’t understand your animosity towards this issue.  The game is completely different on a number of different levels.  As I noted above, the deciding which ball to play with would be huge in this particular scenario.  And your argument about a "whole level suffrence" (assuming you meant difference) makes no sense.  One level is HUGE when discussing something like this.  By your assumption that we can only compare level by level, a men’s college team couldn’t beat a WNBA team, which we all know makes zero sense.

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  • #1049349
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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    I think Brianna Stewart can ball and enjoy watching women’s ball. But just posed the question because of UCONNs dominance. UCONN vs an Intermeral Champ team would be more fun to watch than whoever they will play in the championship..

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  • #1049482
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    SeattleSuperChronics
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    I think Brianna Stewart can ball and enjoy watching women’s ball. But just posed the question because of UCONNs dominance. UCONN vs an Intermeral Champ team would be more fun to watch than whoever they will play in the championship..

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  • #1049380
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    Lol this probably sounds gay, but ive played a lot of Mixed Basketball and Netball against women and I observed a few things. For those that dont know netball…its kinda like basketball (except stupid-er).

    As long as a guy is in decent shape, a rookie male will straight up dominate an experienced and skilled female. Rules are in place to stop men dominating, such as no blocking womens shots or stealing the ballm

    Taller, faster, heavier, stronger. Women simply can’t get a rebound. Their movements are too slow and predictable. Their bodys consist of very little muscle and they have no explosiveness.

    They cant play physically because theyll get hurt. They have to get out of the way if a 200lb guy is running in their direction.

    Im not even going to apologize to women for my comments. Any that are reading can get their all-star 5 against my 5 average joes, and we will win 100 to 10. 

    And all the men that wanna stand up for womens rights just cos they suck at basketball compared to men need a serious reality check.

     

     

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    • #1049386
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      Stop_basketball_nonsense
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       So you play in some league that doesn’t mean crap and there Are rules that help keep the game fair are close to it as posible, the reason being is it’s some below average rec-league where most the women suck. To my point if the women just suck then its obvious men dominate thats like saying any man who makes a bet he can beat a woman who runs every day all her life in the morning  in a race if she gives a couple months to train. The man will have a very good chance at winning because of simple genetics. & yes Hype Machine you do sound GAY!!

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    • #1049517
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       So you play in some league that doesn’t mean crap and there Are rules that help keep the game fair are close to it as posible, the reason being is it’s some below average rec-league where most the women suck. To my point if the women just suck then its obvious men dominate thats like saying any man who makes a bet he can beat a woman who runs every day all her life in the morning  in a race if she gives a couple months to train. The man will have a very good chance at winning because of simple genetics. & yes Hype Machine you do sound GAY!!

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  • #1049512
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    Lol this probably sounds gay, but ive played a lot of Mixed Basketball and Netball against women and I observed a few things. For those that dont know netball…its kinda like basketball (except stupid-er).

    As long as a guy is in decent shape, a rookie male will straight up dominate an experienced and skilled female. Rules are in place to stop men dominating, such as no blocking womens shots or stealing the ballm

    Taller, faster, heavier, stronger. Women simply can’t get a rebound. Their movements are too slow and predictable. Their bodys consist of very little muscle and they have no explosiveness.

    They cant play physically because theyll get hurt. They have to get out of the way if a 200lb guy is running in their direction.

    Im not even going to apologize to women for my comments. Any that are reading can get their all-star 5 against my 5 average joes, and we will win 100 to 10. 

    And all the men that wanna stand up for womens rights just cos they suck at basketball compared to men need a serious reality check.

     

     

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  • #1049392
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     I take nothing away from women’s basketball and I believe that women can be just as skilled as men. I don’t watch a ton of women’s basketball but when I do I have to admit that I am usually impressed by the skill level of the players and the way they move the ball. I think in a lot of ways women are more coachable and have less of a tendency to play isolation ball and are more focused on fundamentals out of necessity.

    With that being said, I think there is a lot of truth to this argument. I wouldn’t say an average high school team (like the one  i played on) could beat uconn but a slightly above average boys team could definitely give them a run for their money. 

    The difference in the speed, athleticism and physicality of the game between men’s and women’s basketball is just literally night and day. I was not a division 1 level basketball player by any means and I have competed in pickup games with high level women’s college basketball players and easily gotten the better of them.  Most of the high level women’s programs in the country will scrimmage against men’s intramural teams throughout the season to gain an advantage. It’s pretty much standard practice.

     

     

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  • #1049523
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     I take nothing away from women’s basketball and I believe that women can be just as skilled as men. I don’t watch a ton of women’s basketball but when I do I have to admit that I am usually impressed by the skill level of the players and the way they move the ball. I think in a lot of ways women are more coachable and have less of a tendency to play isolation ball and are more focused on fundamentals out of necessity.

    With that being said, I think there is a lot of truth to this argument. I wouldn’t say an average high school team (like the one  i played on) could beat uconn but a slightly above average boys team could definitely give them a run for their money. 

    The difference in the speed, athleticism and physicality of the game between men’s and women’s basketball is just literally night and day. I was not a division 1 level basketball player by any means and I have competed in pickup games with high level women’s college basketball players and easily gotten the better of them.  Most of the high level women’s programs in the country will scrimmage against men’s intramural teams throughout the season to gain an advantage. It’s pretty much standard practice.

     

     

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  • #1049399
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    holefillers1
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     A team consisting of no less than 12 Elena Delle Donne’s could run with a high school boys team…so there you go.

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  • #1049531
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    holefillers1
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     A team consisting of no less than 12 Elena Delle Donne’s could run with a high school boys team…so there you go.

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  • #1049417
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    MBRH
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     Stop basketball I’m not sure how to respond to you, have you ever played against a high level female basketball player? If you have to know it was the Connecticut Sun that we played against, I don’t have any reason to lie… Now I’m not taking anything away from those woman, they could really ball, but they couldn’t keep up physically. Like I said my team was full of future division 1 players so it wasn’t a typical high school team, but UCONN is a step down from a WNBA team and I have no doubt that a typical solid highschool program would beat UCONN fairly easily. I’m just going to leave it at I auctually played against WNBA players in highschool so I have first hand experience not just speculation. 

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  • #1049549
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    MBRH
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     Stop basketball I’m not sure how to respond to you, have you ever played against a high level female basketball player? If you have to know it was the Connecticut Sun that we played against, I don’t have any reason to lie… Now I’m not taking anything away from those woman, they could really ball, but they couldn’t keep up physically. Like I said my team was full of future division 1 players so it wasn’t a typical high school team, but UCONN is a step down from a WNBA team and I have no doubt that a typical solid highschool program would beat UCONN fairly easily. I’m just going to leave it at I auctually played against WNBA players in highschool so I have first hand experience not just speculation. 

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