Cousins and trade

Lakers?

Top 3 pick and Randle?  Is that too much or too little?

Would the supremely talented and engimatic Cousins,  a willing passer in Russell, a nice young guard in Clarkson, a rising glue-guy in Nance, a top 6th man in Williams, and additonal cap room be enough to make Durant think hard?  We could add another top-tier free agent (Horford?) and add another star the following year as the cap increases.  Durant would probably be able to nominate the coach of his choice — his agents could help orchestrate that as part of signing.  A starting five of:

Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Horford, Cousins

Seems young, dynamic, and contender worthy to me.

Can I be GM?  Please.  Don’t we all dream that!

Thoughts?

Lakers?

Top 3 pick and Randle?  Is that too much or too little?

Would the supremely talented and engimatic Cousins,  a willing passer in Russell, a nice young guard in Clarkson, a rising glue-guy in Nance, a top 6th man in Williams, and additonal cap room be enough to make Durant think hard?  We could add another top-tier free agent (Horford?) and add another star the following year as the cap increases.  Durant would probably be able to nominate the coach of his choice — his agents could help orchestrate that as part of signing.  A starting five of:

Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Horford, Cousins

Seems young, dynamic, and contender worthy to me.

Can I be GM?  Please.  Don’t we all dream that!

Thoughts?

 Cousins needs to get out of sacramento. The kings are disfunctional. Cousins just wants to win since he has been losing so long and dealing with blown draft picks and roster moves. If Cousins goes to a team like boston or the lakers or any other team with a good culture, you would only hear positive things about him and how competitive he is. Outside of a few techs cousins reputation would be a lot better on a different team.

 Cousins needs to get out of sacramento. The kings are disfunctional. Cousins just wants to win since he has been losing so long and dealing with blown draft picks and roster moves. If Cousins goes to a team like boston or the lakers or any other team with a good culture, you would only hear positive things about him and how competitive he is. Outside of a few techs cousins reputation would be a lot better on a different team.

I think if this years Net pick is high enough they would do it for 2 nets picks. It prbly would need to be 1 or 2 though.

I think if this years Net pick is high enough they would do it for 2 nets picks. It prbly would need to be 1 or 2 though.

 Cousins is strictly a stat player… his stats impress in the box score but usually end up in a loss.  Any other 27+ point player in the league makes the playoffs.   

 Cousins is strictly a stat player… his stats impress in the box score but usually end up in a loss.  Any other 27+ point player in the league makes the playoffs.   

He should of been traded two seasons ago.

He should team up with Harden in Houston, so they both can compare notes on the best way to pad their stats….

He should of been traded two seasons ago.

He should team up with Harden in Houston, so they both can compare notes on the best way to pad their stats….

Kings are going to move on from Karl before they trade Cousins. I can’t see them trading him unless he flat out demands it. Doesn’t Divac like not even know how to do a trade or something?

Such a shame that the most talented big man in the game in the early years of his prime is going to waste away in Sacramento. Imagine if he were surrounded by well-respected and no-nonsense veterans throughout his career? A guy like KG could have really whipped him into shape quick.

Kings are going to move on from Karl before they trade Cousins. I can’t see them trading him unless he flat out demands it. Doesn’t Divac like not even know how to do a trade or something?

Such a shame that the most talented big man in the game in the early years of his prime is going to waste away in Sacramento. Imagine if he were surrounded by well-respected and no-nonsense veterans throughout his career? A guy like KG could have really whipped him into shape quick.

The Kings want a stupid amount for him – something like 3 or 4 players or draft picks. He was only a 5th overall pick.

The Celtics are prob the only ones who have enough assets to trade for him. Ainge prob knows this so hopefully he won’t have to give up half his team to acquire Cousins.

He would like to reunite with Wall in Washington but I don’t think they have enough assets to get him. Prob not a great idea to have him and markieff on the same team anyway !!!

Portland, Phoenix and Orlando have some young players and assets. I think Portland is smart enough to stay away. Something like Alex Len and Knight or Bledsoe….

The Kings want a stupid amount for him – something like 3 or 4 players or draft picks. He was only a 5th overall pick.

The Celtics are prob the only ones who have enough assets to trade for him. Ainge prob knows this so hopefully he won’t have to give up half his team to acquire Cousins.

He would like to reunite with Wall in Washington but I don’t think they have enough assets to get him. Prob not a great idea to have him and markieff on the same team anyway !!!

Portland, Phoenix and Orlando have some young players and assets. I think Portland is smart enough to stay away. Something like Alex Len and Knight or Bledsoe….

 Stay away, born loser.

 Stay away, born loser.

Are they’re actual people who think he’ll stay with the King longterm? Like I already have him penciled out of that organization once the summer of 2018 hits.

Are they’re actual people who think he’ll stay with the King longterm? Like I already have him penciled out of that organization once the summer of 2018 hits.

Many fans say Cousins is a loser or makes silly average based statements about what 27+ ppg players should do. He’s still inmature for sure, but I’ll be also frustrated on a team like that (though I generally likes the Kings since the ’90s)
The West is real hard for a decade, and the Kings really sucks for a decade. It isn’t Cousins’ fault that they aren’t contenders. The Kings are the most disfunctional team since Ted Stepien made basketball decisions. I was really glad to see the Maloofs go, but Vivek isn’t much better. 
The Celts would be an ideal place for him (and they would make the playoffs 😛 as some concerned), but I also understand Divac, as he’s reluctant to part with his cornerstone. 
The Kings need change, moving DMC won’t be THE solution, the fish stinks from the head, they need to get rid about the entire organization… they may can keep the cleaning staff…

Many fans say Cousins is a loser or makes silly average based statements about what 27+ ppg players should do. He’s still inmature for sure, but I’ll be also frustrated on a team like that (though I generally likes the Kings since the ’90s)
The West is real hard for a decade, and the Kings really sucks for a decade. It isn’t Cousins’ fault that they aren’t contenders. The Kings are the most disfunctional team since Ted Stepien made basketball decisions. I was really glad to see the Maloofs go, but Vivek isn’t much better. 
The Celts would be an ideal place for him (and they would make the playoffs 😛 as some concerned), but I also understand Divac, as he’s reluctant to part with his cornerstone. 
The Kings need change, moving DMC won’t be THE solution, the fish stinks from the head, they need to get rid about the entire organization… they may can keep the cleaning staff…

 Trade him to Denver. Obviously DMC and Karl are like oil and water and the only coach who seem to get in touch with Cousins is Mike Malone. I would love to see those two reunite again.

 Trade him to Denver. Obviously DMC and Karl are like oil and water and the only coach who seem to get in touch with Cousins is Mike Malone. I would love to see those two reunite again.

I’d love to see him team up with Wall again. But that would likely come at the expense of Beal, Porter, maybe Gortat or Nene + a 1st rd pick. But thats based on value.

If it comes out that he’s on the block, Wizards could possibly get away with that offer minus one of those pieces.

I’d love to see him team up with Wall again. But that would likely come at the expense of Beal, Porter, maybe Gortat or Nene + a 1st rd pick. But thats based on value.

If it comes out that he’s on the block, Wizards could possibly get away with that offer minus one of those pieces.

Sacramento would want a very high draft pick for DMC plus other decent assets, I look at the K-Love asking price and see a DMC trade being in the same ballpark. DMC seems to have huge issues with Coach Karl who is over a 1,000 win career coach so I don’t know where he’d fit in well. Ideally he’d need a strong veteran locker room presence to keep him in check.

With talk about Blake Griffin being on the way out of LA Clippers, I wonder if some sort of 3 team deal might go down with DMC possibly going to Clippers, Griffin possibly to Boston and picks/assets to Sac-Town.

Boston get Griffin to give them the superstar to take them right back into real contention, Clippers flip Griffin for DMC, they would have Pierce, CP3, Crawford around him and he’d be on a winning team. Sac-Town get picks probably something from Boston via Nets and an asset or two.

Sacramento would want a very high draft pick for DMC plus other decent assets, I look at the K-Love asking price and see a DMC trade being in the same ballpark. DMC seems to have huge issues with Coach Karl who is over a 1,000 win career coach so I don’t know where he’d fit in well. Ideally he’d need a strong veteran locker room presence to keep him in check.

With talk about Blake Griffin being on the way out of LA Clippers, I wonder if some sort of 3 team deal might go down with DMC possibly going to Clippers, Griffin possibly to Boston and picks/assets to Sac-Town.

Boston get Griffin to give them the superstar to take them right back into real contention, Clippers flip Griffin for DMC, they would have Pierce, CP3, Crawford around him and he’d be on a winning team. Sac-Town get picks probably something from Boston via Nets and an asset or two.

So childish, that’s insane, hardly watchable at times, he’s ten times the head case sheed was before the pistons.

Kings are dumber than they are if they’re not planning to move him, their situation is way worse than the nuggets with melo(similar kind of FP).

He needs to go to the east, Celts could be the only fit, with stevens and high caracter guys, defenders.

A reunion with wall ? but they don’t have the assets.

So childish, that’s insane, hardly watchable at times, he’s ten times the head case sheed was before the pistons.

Kings are dumber than they are if they’re not planning to move him, their situation is way worse than the nuggets with melo(similar kind of FP).

He needs to go to the east, Celts could be the only fit, with stevens and high caracter guys, defenders.

A reunion with wall ? but they don’t have the assets.

 The difference, and it is a big difference…  the players you mentioned have all made to the playoffs and Cousins has not.  And to make it plenty clear I am not your pal and I am certainly no fan of any player that has all of the mood swings of a little girl,

 The difference, and it is a big difference…  the players you mentioned have all made to the playoffs and Cousins has not.  And to make it plenty clear I am not your pal and I am certainly no fan of any player that has all of the mood swings of a little girl,

Seems like the Kings are gonna get a pretty good pick this year. Anywhere from 2 to 7.

Trade Boogie and and get 2 young players and a pick….Trade Gay for a 1st rounder. 

Thats potentially 5 young pieces if they blow it all up….in addition to what they already have. 

Seems like the Kings are gonna get a pretty good pick this year. Anywhere from 2 to 7.

Trade Boogie and and get 2 young players and a pick….Trade Gay for a 1st rounder. 

Thats potentially 5 young pieces if they blow it all up….in addition to what they already have. 

 Good point by Hype Machine, if Kings end up high in the draft lottery and say Simmons or Ingram is heading to Sac-Town then suddenly DMC is almost expendable. If they can flip him maybe for another high pick this year then they have almost rebuilt overnight.

I’d still look to resign Rondo as you have a championship winner on the roster and with him pulling strings for a couple of young studs then it looks a decent fit for Coach Karl to go forward with.

Gay gives you solid 18-20ppg and his contract is more reasonable now, he’s still only 29 so would have decent trade value or he could easily remain as a solid running mate.

As regards DMC he seems to have had issues with several coaches and I’ve not heard that a senior team mate has been able to really mentor him ever. Even guys like Vlade Davic who runs the front office and played to the highest level cannot seem to get DMC onside.

 Good point by Hype Machine, if Kings end up high in the draft lottery and say Simmons or Ingram is heading to Sac-Town then suddenly DMC is almost expendable. If they can flip him maybe for another high pick this year then they have almost rebuilt overnight.

I’d still look to resign Rondo as you have a championship winner on the roster and with him pulling strings for a couple of young studs then it looks a decent fit for Coach Karl to go forward with.

Gay gives you solid 18-20ppg and his contract is more reasonable now, he’s still only 29 so would have decent trade value or he could easily remain as a solid running mate.

As regards DMC he seems to have had issues with several coaches and I’ve not heard that a senior team mate has been able to really mentor him ever. Even guys like Vlade Davic who runs the front office and played to the highest level cannot seem to get DMC onside.

if i was vlade, id be calling milwaukee and see if theyre willing to part with 2 failed fits in Greg Monroe and Michael Carter-Williams and 1 of their cornerstone forwards in either Jabari or Giannis. The bucks get a generational talented bigman and the kings get to rebuild their locker room without cousins as its biggest influence. 

id follow that up by letting rondo go in free agency and having MCW rejuvinate his young career under George Karl and his point guard friendly system. between Gay, Monroe and either forward they get in the deal, there should be enough offense to sustain their scoring and up tempo ways. But this deal is all about acknowledging that building around cousins for sacramento has been a failure and moving forward.

theyve had him for 6 years, have had 4 different head coaches, 5 if you count ty corbin, and in that time frame, they have yet to win 30 games in a season. they tried getting a big man head coach, a player’s head coach, someone that protected him in the media and officials, but it dint work, at least not in the win column. they keep going and trying to make it work, but every season more is making it harder and harder for the franchise to build a competitive culture.

this might be the best time to deal demarcus as well. he’s comming of a career year where he’s shown how good he is and is up there with NBA’s best bigmen, a top 5 scorer and rebounder in the league, young at age 25 and under contract for 2 years more. if they delay this divorce any longer, 1 of two options is what sac will be left with.

either A) he leaves the kings as a free agent in 2018 because the cap would have exploded already and he’s tired of loosing, or B) the kings trade him for less value he’s worth cause other gms know that they dont have any other choice than to loose him for nothing or receive pennies on the dollar.

if i was vlade, id be calling milwaukee and see if theyre willing to part with 2 failed fits in Greg Monroe and Michael Carter-Williams and 1 of their cornerstone forwards in either Jabari or Giannis. The bucks get a generational talented bigman and the kings get to rebuild their locker room without cousins as its biggest influence. 

id follow that up by letting rondo go in free agency and having MCW rejuvinate his young career under George Karl and his point guard friendly system. between Gay, Monroe and either forward they get in the deal, there should be enough offense to sustain their scoring and up tempo ways. But this deal is all about acknowledging that building around cousins for sacramento has been a failure and moving forward.

theyve had him for 6 years, have had 4 different head coaches, 5 if you count ty corbin, and in that time frame, they have yet to win 30 games in a season. they tried getting a big man head coach, a player’s head coach, someone that protected him in the media and officials, but it dint work, at least not in the win column. they keep going and trying to make it work, but every season more is making it harder and harder for the franchise to build a competitive culture.

this might be the best time to deal demarcus as well. he’s comming of a career year where he’s shown how good he is and is up there with NBA’s best bigmen, a top 5 scorer and rebounder in the league, young at age 25 and under contract for 2 years more. if they delay this divorce any longer, 1 of two options is what sac will be left with.

either A) he leaves the kings as a free agent in 2018 because the cap would have exploded already and he’s tired of loosing, or B) the kings trade him for less value he’s worth cause other gms know that they dont have any other choice than to loose him for nothing or receive pennies on the dollar.