Simmons and LSU drama..WTF?

Wow I did not see this reaction! but my first reaction to him being benched for Academic Reasons was huh wtf? He actually goes to class, Why would he waste his time he’ll be gone in a year anyway. Even if he failed every class why would it even matter? He’s not going to look back in 10 years like yeah I really learned a lot in that English 101 class.

Wow I did not see this reaction! but my first reaction to him being benched for Academic Reasons was huh wtf? He actually goes to class, Why would he waste his time he’ll be gone in a year anyway. Even if he failed every class why would it even matter? He’s not going to look back in 10 years like yeah I really learned a lot in that English 101 class.

That is so Lebron 2.0. That is the same kind of reactions that people hate on Lebron for. Always being to damn dramatic and subbing himself out of games and such.

Ecspecially young guys, All I would ask as a coach is respect no matter what and it would flow through the whole team. However the best player acts it rolls through the whole team. He should have pretended he never got benched and just went out there and played his game. smh

That is so Lebron 2.0. That is the same kind of reactions that people hate on Lebron for. Always being to damn dramatic and subbing himself out of games and such.

Ecspecially young guys, All I would ask as a coach is respect no matter what and it would flow through the whole team. However the best player acts it rolls through the whole team. He should have pretended he never got benched and just went out there and played his game. smh

 I didn’t see the whole game, only the end so I can’t speak on what your talking about. I had no idea he didn’t start.

I will say though that just by watching Simmons this year on the court, he has basically played like someone who has bigger things on his mind, and i guess with all the hype surrounding him, who could really blame him. He appears to be more interested in padding his stats than helping the team win for large stretches of games.  His effort on defense has been sporadic at best all season. He kind of carries himself on the court like he is above the rest of the team, and I have more than once seen his visibly express frustration in his teammates where it seemed like it was done intentionally to belittle them.

Of course im not around the team so I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, but just from watching there definitely appears to be a large disconnect between him and the rest of the team. He has been schooled well and says all the right things to the media, but you can just kind of sense that he doesn’t want to be there. It won’t affect his draft stock at all, but it will be interesting to keep an eye on as his career progresses. Will he mature or kind of develop a reputation as a guy no one wants to play with.

 I didn’t see the whole game, only the end so I can’t speak on what your talking about. I had no idea he didn’t start.

I will say though that just by watching Simmons this year on the court, he has basically played like someone who has bigger things on his mind, and i guess with all the hype surrounding him, who could really blame him. He appears to be more interested in padding his stats than helping the team win for large stretches of games.  His effort on defense has been sporadic at best all season. He kind of carries himself on the court like he is above the rest of the team, and I have more than once seen his visibly express frustration in his teammates where it seemed like it was done intentionally to belittle them.

Of course im not around the team so I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes, but just from watching there definitely appears to be a large disconnect between him and the rest of the team. He has been schooled well and says all the right things to the media, but you can just kind of sense that he doesn’t want to be there. It won’t affect his draft stock at all, but it will be interesting to keep an eye on as his career progresses. Will he mature or kind of develop a reputation as a guy no one wants to play with.

 I didn’t catch the game but reading Jonathan Givony’s tweets and your post it sounds like Simmons handled the situation completely wrong.  Not sure what he failed to do academically to get benched in the beginning but I assume Jones was right to bench him.  However if he put no effort in defensively and sat at the end of the bench during time outs then Johnny Jones should have benched him for the rest of the game to really send a message to Simmons.  Instead, Jones played him 36 minutes which I think sends the wrong message to his teammates that despite his lack of effort and bad body language Simmons was not punished.  Not saying this drops his draft stock but it does sound like he showed a lack of maturity today.  

 I didn’t catch the game but reading Jonathan Givony’s tweets and your post it sounds like Simmons handled the situation completely wrong.  Not sure what he failed to do academically to get benched in the beginning but I assume Jones was right to bench him.  However if he put no effort in defensively and sat at the end of the bench during time outs then Johnny Jones should have benched him for the rest of the game to really send a message to Simmons.  Instead, Jones played him 36 minutes which I think sends the wrong message to his teammates that despite his lack of effort and bad body language Simmons was not punished.  Not saying this drops his draft stock but it does sound like he showed a lack of maturity today.  

 Fire jones hire Shaq!!!!!!!!!

 Fire jones hire Shaq!!!!!!!!!

 benching holds zero value if you end up playing the kid 36 minutes. If anything it just undermines the coach and any attmept he made to hold him accountable goes out the window. Its like "son, your not startgin and i hope you learn from this"…(first dead ball)… "ben, get out there right now and carry us!"

 benching holds zero value if you end up playing the kid 36 minutes. If anything it just undermines the coach and any attmept he made to hold him accountable goes out the window. Its like "son, your not startgin and i hope you learn from this"…(first dead ball)… "ben, get out there right now and carry us!"

 LLPerez nailed it. Who cares if the kid doesn’t start. People care waaay too much over who starts a game. Kid played his usual minutes and it sounds like he and the rest of the team played like crap. 

Is it just me or does it seem like ESPN is tring too hard to annoint Simmons and this LSU team beyond what it deserves? They aren’t awful, but they aren’t a tournament team yet they talk about Simmons nonstop. 

I get it, he’s the top recruit, but I don’t remember another top recruit getting THIS much attention in recent years. 

 LLPerez nailed it. Who cares if the kid doesn’t start. People care waaay too much over who starts a game. Kid played his usual minutes and it sounds like he and the rest of the team played like crap. 

Is it just me or does it seem like ESPN is tring too hard to annoint Simmons and this LSU team beyond what it deserves? They aren’t awful, but they aren’t a tournament team yet they talk about Simmons nonstop. 

I get it, he’s the top recruit, but I don’t remember another top recruit getting THIS much attention in recent years. 

 b/c none of us know the back story……. He could have been upset about the academic issue or felt he was being made an example of or he could have been acting like a petulant child……

The fact is no ones knows as of now…… In any case, I understand he went to LSU b/c his god-father is on the coaching staff…… On the surface, that sounds good for support……

But I just have questioned the way the LSU coaching staff has used Simmons this whole year….. & I say that w/ understanding b/c integrating a kid who is already a "sensation" into your team concept when your whole team is 4 year players can not be easy…… 

 This is a very unique situation as are all "one & done" kids….  It can’t be easy to bring a kid in who everyone knows won’t be there very long…..

 It’s got to be tough for the coaches, the kid, his teammates, & even the school…… I don’t have any answers & I’m not throwing any blame around……. but I have wondered from the beginning if LSU was the wrong choice for a kid in this situation…… 

 b/c none of us know the back story……. He could have been upset about the academic issue or felt he was being made an example of or he could have been acting like a petulant child……

The fact is no ones knows as of now…… In any case, I understand he went to LSU b/c his god-father is on the coaching staff…… On the surface, that sounds good for support……

But I just have questioned the way the LSU coaching staff has used Simmons this whole year….. & I say that w/ understanding b/c integrating a kid who is already a "sensation" into your team concept when your whole team is 4 year players can not be easy…… 

 This is a very unique situation as are all "one & done" kids….  It can’t be easy to bring a kid in who everyone knows won’t be there very long…..

 It’s got to be tough for the coaches, the kid, his teammates, & even the school…… I don’t have any answers & I’m not throwing any blame around……. but I have wondered from the beginning if LSU was the wrong choice for a kid in this situation…… 

Their piss poor non-conference showing eliminated them from at-large consideration.  You’re not getting an at-large bid with a non-conference RPI of 206.

Their piss poor non-conference showing eliminated them from at-large consideration.  You’re not getting an at-large bid with a non-conference RPI of 206.

 It’s Ben Simmons fault, and his family, for going to a B-program like LSU. He should be playing for a serious coach with other players of his caliber. He’s phoning it in because he knows they aren’t winning anything.

Rodney Hood made the same mistake- his life changing once he transferred to Duke. 

 It’s Ben Simmons fault, and his family, for going to a B-program like LSU. He should be playing for a serious coach with other players of his caliber. He’s phoning it in because he knows they aren’t winning anything.

Rodney Hood made the same mistake- his life changing once he transferred to Duke. 

 Simmons has been a bit of a diva for a long time.

I once had a decent Twitter relationship with him where I could tweet at him and get some sort of response – this was before he was huge.

One time he did an Ask Me Anything and was asked "who is greater, Lebron or MJ?" and said they were equally great – this was before Bron won his second title IIRC.

I playfully called him out saying they might be as good as each other, but greatness was about achievement not just ability.

He responded with "I’ve met them both so I think I can say they are equally great" and ceased responding to any of my tweets.

So yup, I think he’s very into himself and his fame and doesn’t seem like a true leader willing to sacrifice to get wins.

Would be surprised if he becomes a true franchise player with his attitude and holes in his game.

 Simmons has been a bit of a diva for a long time.

I once had a decent Twitter relationship with him where I could tweet at him and get some sort of response – this was before he was huge.

One time he did an Ask Me Anything and was asked "who is greater, Lebron or MJ?" and said they were equally great – this was before Bron won his second title IIRC.

I playfully called him out saying they might be as good as each other, but greatness was about achievement not just ability.

He responded with "I’ve met them both so I think I can say they are equally great" and ceased responding to any of my tweets.

So yup, I think he’s very into himself and his fame and doesn’t seem like a true leader willing to sacrifice to get wins.

Would be surprised if he becomes a true franchise player with his attitude and holes in his game.

The whole thing is a big joke. I’m ok with coaches being firm and this was a chance to do it. People don’t respect you when it seems like you have no authority. If you can’t call out the best players then you probably don’t need to be in charge. I get that their coach is in pretty much a lose lose situation. He has boosters, fans, the team, program, etc to keep happy. He gets paid to win games and there is no perfect way to balance that.

I’m not going to put much on Simmons at this point. He’s on a poorly coached team, they are losing, and he’s likely checked out at this point. He would have to suffer a horrific injury or do something that was over the top stupid to not be a lock for the top two. I have no idea how smart he is or how dedicated, but let’s be real, most of these guys are student-athletes only in name. His career path demands that he stays in shape and can put a ball in a basket.

The whole thing is a big joke. I’m ok with coaches being firm and this was a chance to do it. People don’t respect you when it seems like you have no authority. If you can’t call out the best players then you probably don’t need to be in charge. I get that their coach is in pretty much a lose lose situation. He has boosters, fans, the team, program, etc to keep happy. He gets paid to win games and there is no perfect way to balance that.

I’m not going to put much on Simmons at this point. He’s on a poorly coached team, they are losing, and he’s likely checked out at this point. He would have to suffer a horrific injury or do something that was over the top stupid to not be a lock for the top two. I have no idea how smart he is or how dedicated, but let’s be real, most of these guys are student-athletes only in name. His career path demands that he stays in shape and can put a ball in a basket.

If anything, I see this as well inevitable.  LSU made Simmons their poster boy (literally) before heeven got to campus last year.  He only went there because LSU gave a relative a job.  LSU has made millions off of him already.  Unfortunately Simmons character is turning out to be subpar and the experiment will be ending soon without a tournament bid.  

Johnny Jones clearly can’t manage this kid, but like everyone else, likes his job.  He wants to punish the kid but he needs him too much.  What a mess.   

I am gonna ng to make a prediction here…. Ben Simmons will not develop into the superstar the media has anointed nted him to be.  Barring injury, I’ll bet Simmons does not have the best NBA career out of the 2016 draft.  Time will tell.

If anything, I see this as well inevitable.  LSU made Simmons their poster boy (literally) before heeven got to campus last year.  He only went there because LSU gave a relative a job.  LSU has made millions off of him already.  Unfortunately Simmons character is turning out to be subpar and the experiment will be ending soon without a tournament bid.  

Johnny Jones clearly can’t manage this kid, but like everyone else, likes his job.  He wants to punish the kid but he needs him too much.  What a mess.   

I am gonna ng to make a prediction here…. Ben Simmons will not develop into the superstar the media has anointed nted him to be.  Barring injury, I’ll bet Simmons does not have the best NBA career out of the 2016 draft.  Time will tell.

 The fact that Johnny Jones couldn’t get a team with this much talent to the NCAA tournament is a brutally shocking realization that he is a miserable excuse of a coach 

 The fact that Johnny Jones couldn’t get a team with this much talent to the NCAA tournament is a brutally shocking realization that he is a miserable excuse of a coach