Utah Jazz

With Exum an Gobert out they are being forced to play differently they they would like.

I love watching there no Point Guard sets.

Favors or Hayward should make the All-star team.

With Exum an Gobert out they are being forced to play differently they they would like.

I love watching there no Point Guard sets.

Favors or Hayward should make the All-star team.

 Haha cmon guys…did you really need to throw shade on my thread to make a post about the Jazz. Especially for a thread that is equally optimistic.

Favors and Hayward as All Stars? Cmonnnn….nice pieces yes. You gonna put Favors ahead of Durant, Leanord, Green, Griffin etc. Please.

Trey Burke and Raul Neto are sub-substandard.

Rudy Gobert is an offensive black hole.

The Jazz are a .500 team and first-round fodder if ever there was one.

They’re OK. They havent done a ‘great’ job of anything…except getting rid of Enes Kanter

 Haha cmon guys…did you really need to throw shade on my thread to make a post about the Jazz. Especially for a thread that is equally optimistic.

Favors and Hayward as All Stars? Cmonnnn….nice pieces yes. You gonna put Favors ahead of Durant, Leanord, Green, Griffin etc. Please.

Trey Burke and Raul Neto are sub-substandard.

Rudy Gobert is an offensive black hole.

The Jazz are a .500 team and first-round fodder if ever there was one.

They’re OK. They havent done a ‘great’ job of anything…except getting rid of Enes Kanter

 The Jazz are just in a rough spot right now. Let’s wait til next year with Exum back and another year of seasoning, and this team will be legit. We have one more year of barely missing or making the playoffs. Then next year we should expect a 4th or 5th seed.

 The Jazz are just in a rough spot right now. Let’s wait til next year with Exum back and another year of seasoning, and this team will be legit. We have one more year of barely missing or making the playoffs. Then next year we should expect a 4th or 5th seed.

But will clearly never be a contender with their current core. You can bad mouth the Sixers, but their plan is to avoid becoming like the Jazz (good but never good enough to contend for titles). They are trying to get the superstars and hall of famers needed to win a title in the draft. It may work and it may not, but at least they are not settling for mediocrity. 

But will clearly never be a contender with their current core. You can bad mouth the Sixers, but their plan is to avoid becoming like the Jazz (good but never good enough to contend for titles). They are trying to get the superstars and hall of famers needed to win a title in the draft. It may work and it may not, but at least they are not settling for mediocrity. 

 The Jazz actually have a decent chance of landing Ben Simmons in the Draft.

It would cost him a 10 year/$500m Nike contract….which makes it somewhat understandable that LA is his team of choice.

 The Jazz actually have a decent chance of landing Ben Simmons in the Draft.

It would cost him a 10 year/$500m Nike contract….which makes it somewhat understandable that LA is his team of choice.

 They kind of remind me of the Nuggets teams of a couple years ago. Bunch of solid players with a few borderline all-stars. I like watching the Jazz because they have some nice intriguing pieces. I used to love watching the Nuggets when they were good because I was convinced a young Gallo was heading for stardom but the mishandling of his injury really screwed his career up. 

 They kind of remind me of the Nuggets teams of a couple years ago. Bunch of solid players with a few borderline all-stars. I like watching the Jazz because they have some nice intriguing pieces. I used to love watching the Nuggets when they were good because I was convinced a young Gallo was heading for stardom but the mishandling of his injury really screwed his career up. 

The Jazz are the youngest team in the League.  They Have three players that are top ten at their position and have gotten better every year including this year.  They Have one player coming off a season ending surgury.  They are currently starting two rookies, one drafted in the second round one mid first who is 19yrs old.  

They have six guys with talent to make at least one all-star team, and four who could make a bunch.  They are all so young that Hayward, Favors and Booker are the only ones with any real NBA experience.  

Today I would take Favors over any PF not named Anthony Davis.  

Hayward plays to-to toe with Durant, LeBron, George, Kawaii.  He is a step (or two) below these guys, but at least he can compete with them.  

I really like Trey Burke as a bench player.

The reast of the team is fringe NBA players with little experience, but most have a valuable NBA skill that could turn them into very valuable NBA players on the back half of a contending roster.  

Sure it would be nice to get a top 5 player, but they just don’t walk in the front door.  I think in five years the Jazz will be known as one of the most consistent teams in the league and always contending to make the finals.  If Exum, Hood, and Gobert develop to their potential the Jazz will havea team that could be very, very good for a very long time.  

This is the first year anyone has even talked about playoffs, and I think they are right on schedule.  

I see their upside as higher than the Jazz of olden days due to depth of talent.  They may not get there, but remember, nobody say Curry coming either, or else he would have been maxed out on his last contract.  

Once the core six players are 25+ then lets talk.  

The Jazz are the youngest team in the League.  They Have three players that are top ten at their position and have gotten better every year including this year.  They Have one player coming off a season ending surgury.  They are currently starting two rookies, one drafted in the second round one mid first who is 19yrs old.  

They have six guys with talent to make at least one all-star team, and four who could make a bunch.  They are all so young that Hayward, Favors and Booker are the only ones with any real NBA experience.  

Today I would take Favors over any PF not named Anthony Davis.  

Hayward plays to-to toe with Durant, LeBron, George, Kawaii.  He is a step (or two) below these guys, but at least he can compete with them.  

I really like Trey Burke as a bench player.

The reast of the team is fringe NBA players with little experience, but most have a valuable NBA skill that could turn them into very valuable NBA players on the back half of a contending roster.  

Sure it would be nice to get a top 5 player, but they just don’t walk in the front door.  I think in five years the Jazz will be known as one of the most consistent teams in the league and always contending to make the finals.  If Exum, Hood, and Gobert develop to their potential the Jazz will havea team that could be very, very good for a very long time.  

This is the first year anyone has even talked about playoffs, and I think they are right on schedule.  

I see their upside as higher than the Jazz of olden days due to depth of talent.  They may not get there, but remember, nobody say Curry coming either, or else he would have been maxed out on his last contract.  

Once the core six players are 25+ then lets talk.  

 not close to contenders with their current team.like another poster said this is the situation the sixers were and are trying to avoid. I mean maybe if exum can develop into that guy then they have a shot at their feeling being the fourth seed in the west but I just don’t see it.

 not close to contenders with their current team.like another poster said this is the situation the sixers were and are trying to avoid. I mean maybe if exum can develop into that guy then they have a shot at their feeling being the fourth seed in the west but I just don’t see it.

 Dante Exum = Shaun Livingston?  Let’ see.

 Dante Exum = Shaun Livingston?  Let’ see.

 I like how Hazel comes in with a solid post that is 100% accurate, and people give him flack. He mde some great points, and all of them are valid. Saying that the Jazz are "what the 76’ers are trying to avoid" is just rude, and shows little insite into what is actually going on in Utah. He just did an overview, so I’ll do the breakdown for him/her.

The Jazz do in fact have 3 players that are Top 10 at their respective positions. Those guys are:

Derrick Favors at 24 y/a is averaging 17/9/2/2/1, and has a DRtg of 102. He has great post moves, is active on D playing the 4/5, is shooting over 44% from midrange, and is easily a top 10 PF in the game right now. He’s an animal in the paint shooting almost 72% near the basket, which is absolutely elite. 

Rudy Gobert is averaging close to 10/11/2/1/3 this year, and is one of the rising center in the league. He sports a 101 DRtg, and and has a career ORtg of 116. I don’t think anyone is going to question his defensive impact, and his ability to hit his freethrows at a decent clip means he can actually play when the games matter. People go crazy over Whiteside and Drummond, and I think Gobert is def. in the same league as them, and is the same age. 

Hayward is a top 10 SF, get over it. He plays fantastic team basketball, shoots high quality shots, 40% three point shooter, and is a solid defender. He’s not an all-star level player, but he’s def. worth his contract, and is the model perimeter player for todays NBA. He’s playing not only as the #1 option on offense and putting up respectable numbers, but he’s also their primary ball handler and has practically been their point guard in everything but name. It’s hard to hate on this guy, as he could easily be a fantastic 2nd or 3rd option on a championship team. 

Those three make up their core, but they also have a plethora of young talent behind those guys who have already proven they are NBA role-players. 

Burkes and Burks have combined to make up one of the best scoring benches in the entire NBA, averaging 26 ppg off the bench, and shooting great numbers from 3 pnt land. 

Rodney Hood has struggled a little this year, but he was def. a steal, and has proven that he has the ability to be an elite shooter in the NBA if we go off of how he ended last year and started this year. 

They still have Trey Lyles who is showing some good signs early on in his career, and Exum who some people have high hopes for (I don’t).

Like Hazel mentioned the Jazz are one of the youngest teams in the league, have no core pieces even in their prime, and are already sporting one of the top defenses in the NBA. They also have one of the best benches in the NBA, and play good team basketball. This team has enough good young talent to make a big trade, and in my opinion, are one good scoring PG away from being a real threat in the next 1-2 years. 

If the Jazz are able to flip some of their young guys for someone like Brandon Knight or Jeff Teague, than this team is going to take off, and be a threat to anyone out West. Please, I dare anyone to look at me with a strait face and tell me in two years a rotation of 

Gobert

Favors-Lyles

Hayward

Hood-Burkes

Knight-Burkes

wouldn’t win at least 50 games…

On top of all of that, Quinn Snyder has shown in a very short time that he is a good NBA coach, and is coaching one of the best defenses in the league, they are ranked 6th this year. As a Celtic fan I look at what the Jazz are doing, and wonder why Stevens and the Celtics are getting praised, but the Jazz are not. They are the same team with the ssame concept, the only difference is the Jazz play in a stacked conference with arguably the top 5 teams in the league in it, excluding CLE. The Jazz are going to be a playoff team for years to come, and will be the MEM Grizz of the next generation. That’s not a bad thing either, as the Grizz had a few chances to make the finals, and this team has more potential than the Zbo/Gasol Grizzilies. 

The 76ers comment is just a joke, as Okafor and Noel might not even be as good as Gobert/Favors and the Sixers still don’t even have their Hayward yet. 

 I like how Hazel comes in with a solid post that is 100% accurate, and people give him flack. He mde some great points, and all of them are valid. Saying that the Jazz are "what the 76’ers are trying to avoid" is just rude, and shows little insite into what is actually going on in Utah. He just did an overview, so I’ll do the breakdown for him/her.

The Jazz do in fact have 3 players that are Top 10 at their respective positions. Those guys are:

Derrick Favors at 24 y/a is averaging 17/9/2/2/1, and has a DRtg of 102. He has great post moves, is active on D playing the 4/5, is shooting over 44% from midrange, and is easily a top 10 PF in the game right now. He’s an animal in the paint shooting almost 72% near the basket, which is absolutely elite. 

Rudy Gobert is averaging close to 10/11/2/1/3 this year, and is one of the rising center in the league. He sports a 101 DRtg, and and has a career ORtg of 116. I don’t think anyone is going to question his defensive impact, and his ability to hit his freethrows at a decent clip means he can actually play when the games matter. People go crazy over Whiteside and Drummond, and I think Gobert is def. in the same league as them, and is the same age. 

Hayward is a top 10 SF, get over it. He plays fantastic team basketball, shoots high quality shots, 40% three point shooter, and is a solid defender. He’s not an all-star level player, but he’s def. worth his contract, and is the model perimeter player for todays NBA. He’s playing not only as the #1 option on offense and putting up respectable numbers, but he’s also their primary ball handler and has practically been their point guard in everything but name. It’s hard to hate on this guy, as he could easily be a fantastic 2nd or 3rd option on a championship team. 

Those three make up their core, but they also have a plethora of young talent behind those guys who have already proven they are NBA role-players. 

Burkes and Burks have combined to make up one of the best scoring benches in the entire NBA, averaging 26 ppg off the bench, and shooting great numbers from 3 pnt land. 

Rodney Hood has struggled a little this year, but he was def. a steal, and has proven that he has the ability to be an elite shooter in the NBA if we go off of how he ended last year and started this year. 

They still have Trey Lyles who is showing some good signs early on in his career, and Exum who some people have high hopes for (I don’t).

Like Hazel mentioned the Jazz are one of the youngest teams in the league, have no core pieces even in their prime, and are already sporting one of the top defenses in the NBA. They also have one of the best benches in the NBA, and play good team basketball. This team has enough good young talent to make a big trade, and in my opinion, are one good scoring PG away from being a real threat in the next 1-2 years. 

If the Jazz are able to flip some of their young guys for someone like Brandon Knight or Jeff Teague, than this team is going to take off, and be a threat to anyone out West. Please, I dare anyone to look at me with a strait face and tell me in two years a rotation of 

Gobert

Favors-Lyles

Hayward

Hood-Burkes

Knight-Burkes

wouldn’t win at least 50 games…

On top of all of that, Quinn Snyder has shown in a very short time that he is a good NBA coach, and is coaching one of the best defenses in the league, they are ranked 6th this year. As a Celtic fan I look at what the Jazz are doing, and wonder why Stevens and the Celtics are getting praised, but the Jazz are not. They are the same team with the ssame concept, the only difference is the Jazz play in a stacked conference with arguably the top 5 teams in the league in it, excluding CLE. The Jazz are going to be a playoff team for years to come, and will be the MEM Grizz of the next generation. That’s not a bad thing either, as the Grizz had a few chances to make the finals, and this team has more potential than the Zbo/Gasol Grizzilies. 

The 76ers comment is just a joke, as Okafor and Noel might not even be as good as Gobert/Favors and the Sixers still don’t even have their Hayward yet. 

Utah’s set up to open a 5-6 year window for playoff runs if they continue to play their cards right.. That FO is quietly one of the best in the league.

Hayward, Favors and Gobert are all legit, only a fool would say otherwise.. Alec Burks is on a cheap contract and they have a trove of additional picks the next few years, their GM Dennis Lindsey has been drafting exceptionally well and will probably continue to do so(*cough*Not Sabonis..*cough*)… Rodney Hood was a great value pick and will give them plus minutes for the next 2+ seasons for next to nothing,. Raul Neto looks like a find and a capable rotation PG in the 2nd round, he’s just 23 too, he’s apparently gone from a 20something % 3pt shooter in the ACB to a mid 30’s percentage shooter in the NBA..

 Gobert also costs them next to nothing next season..  They have tons of flexibility, and feild a competive team thats average age is only around 24..

I’m not sure if they make the playoffs this year, they have no chance vs the upper tier western teams in a series anyway so it doesn’t matter much. Next season they’ll be much more dangerous. 

Lyles is tailor made for their system, and Snyders made a point to get him minutes in 1st quarters thruought the season. He’s going to be another good pick.
 

Utah’s set up to open a 5-6 year window for playoff runs if they continue to play their cards right.. That FO is quietly one of the best in the league.

Hayward, Favors and Gobert are all legit, only a fool would say otherwise.. Alec Burks is on a cheap contract and they have a trove of additional picks the next few years, their GM Dennis Lindsey has been drafting exceptionally well and will probably continue to do so(*cough*Not Sabonis..*cough*)… Rodney Hood was a great value pick and will give them plus minutes for the next 2+ seasons for next to nothing,. Raul Neto looks like a find and a capable rotation PG in the 2nd round, he’s just 23 too, he’s apparently gone from a 20something % 3pt shooter in the ACB to a mid 30’s percentage shooter in the NBA..

 Gobert also costs them next to nothing next season..  They have tons of flexibility, and feild a competive team thats average age is only around 24..

I’m not sure if they make the playoffs this year, they have no chance vs the upper tier western teams in a series anyway so it doesn’t matter much. Next season they’ll be much more dangerous. 

Lyles is tailor made for their system, and Snyders made a point to get him minutes in 1st quarters thruought the season. He’s going to be another good pick.