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Do that on a consistent basis, then we can discuss the no. 1 pick. 

Do that on a consistent basis, then we can discuss the no. 1 pick. 

they were saying Ingram is stil adjusting to the speed of the college game….thats worrisome, because hte NBA is that much quicker.

Ingram’s length is taylor-made for the NBA.  I think he will be a future multiple all star.  

Today I saw him doing simmons-esque things like anticipating and being the inteh right position and picking up rebounds by anticipation.  This is stuff Simmons was doing from day 1, and by the way, Simmons is a lot stronger and has no problem getting in position to make plays.

I think Simmons impacts the game more than Ingram, so tahts why you take Simmons.  Simply on his ability to facilitate and make players around him better.

I think Ingram goes before Jamal Murray though….for sure.  I still think its

Simmons

Ingram

Brown

Murray

Bender

Dunn

Labissiere

they were saying Ingram is stil adjusting to the speed of the college game….thats worrisome, because hte NBA is that much quicker.

Ingram’s length is taylor-made for the NBA.  I think he will be a future multiple all star.  

Today I saw him doing simmons-esque things like anticipating and being the inteh right position and picking up rebounds by anticipation.  This is stuff Simmons was doing from day 1, and by the way, Simmons is a lot stronger and has no problem getting in position to make plays.

I think Simmons impacts the game more than Ingram, so tahts why you take Simmons.  Simply on his ability to facilitate and make players around him better.

I think Ingram goes before Jamal Murray though….for sure.  I still think its

Simmons

Ingram

Brown

Murray

Bender

Dunn

Labissiere

 Granite?

Simmons is more advanced at the moment physically and mentally, but he’s also over a year older than Ingram.  They’re different kind of prospects. Simmons’ best attribute offensively is clearly his passing and anticipation, but his offensive versatility in terms of scoring, especially in the half-court where the majority of all possessions in the NBA occur, lags behind Ingram’s… and I personally think that will always be the case.  Simmons also looks more like a PF to me with Ingram looking like a SF long-term.  At those respective positions, I think Ingram’s physical tools are better than Simmons’.  Also, given his style of play where he can be equally effective on or off the ball you don’t have to worry about fit or rearranging pieces to accomodate his game.

I said it before the college season started that I thought that Ingram had the highest potential in this class considering his scoring potential, physical tools, feel for the game and defensive potential for his position.  His combination of ball skills and shot-creating ability is the best among all wings in this class. He has superstar scoring potential to go along with his solid floor game and physical tools defensively.  So no, personally I would not write him off as a possible #1 pick.

 Granite?

Simmons is more advanced at the moment physically and mentally, but he’s also over a year older than Ingram.  They’re different kind of prospects. Simmons’ best attribute offensively is clearly his passing and anticipation, but his offensive versatility in terms of scoring, especially in the half-court where the majority of all possessions in the NBA occur, lags behind Ingram’s… and I personally think that will always be the case.  Simmons also looks more like a PF to me with Ingram looking like a SF long-term.  At those respective positions, I think Ingram’s physical tools are better than Simmons’.  Also, given his style of play where he can be equally effective on or off the ball you don’t have to worry about fit or rearranging pieces to accomodate his game.

I said it before the college season started that I thought that Ingram had the highest potential in this class considering his scoring potential, physical tools, feel for the game and defensive potential for his position.  His combination of ball skills and shot-creating ability is the best among all wings in this class. He has superstar scoring potential to go along with his solid floor game and physical tools defensively.  So no, personally I would not write him off as a possible #1 pick.

There’s a debate until the name is called out. Ingram as T-Mac type ability. 

It would help with comparisons if LSU wasn’t so badddddddd. Coach Jones is as terrible as everyone says.

There’s a debate until the name is called out. Ingram as T-Mac type ability. 

It would help with comparisons if LSU wasn’t so badddddddd. Coach Jones is as terrible as everyone says.

 At the very least Simmons has an NBA body right now.  And he can pass.

 At the very least Simmons has an NBA body right now.  And he can pass.

While Simmons has rare passing and playmaking ability, I think today’s game is all about spacing and shooting ability. I worry about Simmons ability to consistently hit a jumper. It’s worrisome that in 8 games he has only attempted 2 threes with the college three point line. I have heard Lebron comparisons, and while Simmons is blessed athletically, Lebron is a once in a lifetime physcial specimen. I think Simmons will be a good player, but I like Ingram better because of his ability to space the floor. When you can space the floor everything opens up for you and your teammates (See Steph and Golden State). I think Simmons could struggle in the half court as well, and his passing could be limited without a respectable jumper. Also Ingram will mesh easily in any system with his style of play. With Simmons the whole team composition will need to be restructured. Point guard will be devalued on his team because Simmons will in essence be the point. I think it would be worth considering playing him at the point ala Magic. Ultimatley, I think it is best to build around players who can play without the ball justa as well as they can with it, so I do not think a team would be wrong to take Ingram ahead of Simmons. You can’t go wrong with either though, and I think they are head and shoulders above the rest of this draft class. This decision will ultimatley come down to the style a team wants to play.

While Simmons has rare passing and playmaking ability, I think today’s game is all about spacing and shooting ability. I worry about Simmons ability to consistently hit a jumper. It’s worrisome that in 8 games he has only attempted 2 threes with the college three point line. I have heard Lebron comparisons, and while Simmons is blessed athletically, Lebron is a once in a lifetime physcial specimen. I think Simmons will be a good player, but I like Ingram better because of his ability to space the floor. When you can space the floor everything opens up for you and your teammates (See Steph and Golden State). I think Simmons could struggle in the half court as well, and his passing could be limited without a respectable jumper. Also Ingram will mesh easily in any system with his style of play. With Simmons the whole team composition will need to be restructured. Point guard will be devalued on his team because Simmons will in essence be the point. I think it would be worth considering playing him at the point ala Magic. Ultimatley, I think it is best to build around players who can play without the ball justa as well as they can with it, so I do not think a team would be wrong to take Ingram ahead of Simmons. You can’t go wrong with either though, and I think they are head and shoulders above the rest of this draft class. This decision will ultimatley come down to the style a team wants to play.

My bookmaker is offering the following odds for the #1 pick.

Simmons $1.40 for every $1 invested

Anyone else: $2.80 for every $1 invested

Using my very average maths, that means the "experts" (use term loosely) think that theres a 66% chance of Simmons, 33% chance of someone else. 

My bookmaker is offering the following odds for the #1 pick.

Simmons $1.40 for every $1 invested

Anyone else: $2.80 for every $1 invested

Using my very average maths, that means the "experts" (use term loosely) think that theres a 66% chance of Simmons, 33% chance of someone else. 

 I’m not completely shutting the door on anything but from what I’ve seen so far Simmons seems like the best overall prospect. That could still be subject to change though. 

Ingram’s ability to score the ball is ahead of Simmons right now but Simmons overall is just the better player and impacts the game in more ways.

 I’m not completely shutting the door on anything but from what I’ve seen so far Simmons seems like the best overall prospect. That could still be subject to change though. 

Ingram’s ability to score the ball is ahead of Simmons right now but Simmons overall is just the better player and impacts the game in more ways.

We could have several All Star caliber players – Ingram, Labissiere, Murray, Brown (in any order) but I think Simmons is a prospect w/ such a potentially high upside that whoever lands that #1 pick Must draft Simmons,,,,,, jumt my humnble opinion,,,,

We could have several All Star caliber players – Ingram, Labissiere, Murray, Brown (in any order) but I think Simmons is a prospect w/ such a potentially high upside that whoever lands that #1 pick Must draft Simmons,,,,,, jumt my humnble opinion,,,,