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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:01am #62088

negguaryParticipantEmbid has reportedly grown to 7’2!! Smh the potential this kid has to truly be great, and yet we may never get to see him play!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:54am #1029220

lakesidebenParticipantJust speculation without a full physical, he’s either broken or he’s not. Lavine for Embiid? Philly could use a talented young guard and the idea of a Rubio/Wiggins/ Muhammad Bjelica/Towns/Embiid is interesting.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 7:47am #1029379
circumlocution75Participantthat Embiid’s foot was in "much better shape than Durant’s" & he expected Embiid to "make a full recovery…"
Who knows if this is true….. However, if Embiid returns….. You are talking about a man who is the same dimensions as Rudy Gobert & the same abilities on the Defensive end except w/ Okafor’s abilities at the Offensive end…..
I don’t want to overstate the issue… But we all see how great Wiggins looks….. & Cleveland was no question about it taking Embiid #1 in the 2014 Draft….. They were Drooling over Embiid & it’s really a fluke that Phila even got him….. (It’s pure luck they got Okafor too but that’s another story…)
Anyway, if this guy is healthy you are talking about a real life Monster on a Basketball court…. You don’t trade a talent like that for a guy who won a dunk competition….. & I like Lavine, but you can find another Zack Lavine…..
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 7:47am #1029243
circumlocution75Participantthat Embiid’s foot was in "much better shape than Durant’s" & he expected Embiid to "make a full recovery…"
Who knows if this is true….. However, if Embiid returns….. You are talking about a man who is the same dimensions as Rudy Gobert & the same abilities on the Defensive end except w/ Okafor’s abilities at the Offensive end…..
I don’t want to overstate the issue… But we all see how great Wiggins looks….. & Cleveland was no question about it taking Embiid #1 in the 2014 Draft….. They were Drooling over Embiid & it’s really a fluke that Phila even got him….. (It’s pure luck they got Okafor too but that’s another story…)
Anyway, if this guy is healthy you are talking about a real life Monster on a Basketball court…. You don’t trade a talent like that for a guy who won a dunk competition….. & I like Lavine, but you can find another Zack Lavine…..
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:01am #1029385
markfitz14ParticipantWhere did you read that? It seems like Durant was back in under a year if im not mistaken. Why would embid be expected to be out until the start of next season if his foot was not as bad as Durants?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:01am #1029250
markfitz14ParticipantWhere did you read that? It seems like Durant was back in under a year if im not mistaken. Why would embid be expected to be out until the start of next season if his foot was not as bad as Durants?
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:08am #1029389

DukeDaSquadParticipantCause he plays for philly
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:08am #1029254

DukeDaSquadParticipantCause he plays for philly
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:21am #1029447
circumlocution75Participantfuse the bone in Durant’s foot… This surgeon specialized in using this material… The Sixers brought this guy in as part of Embiid’s 2nd surgical team b/c they were doing a full bone graft this time to thicken (&strengthen) the bone……
Thicken the bone in Durant’s foot. Apparently these foot bones are difficult to heal b/c our feet are so far from our heart it is difficult to get proper blood flow & that blood flow is what actually heals the bone…..
Embiid delayed his 2nd surgery last summer so he could talk to Durant & consult his surgeon – Dr. Martin O’Malley about having the same material used in Embiid’s surgery….
A big fear w/ Embiid is that the guy is still growing….. So the Sixers added O’Malley to Embiid’s surgical team & he actually performed the surgery….
After the surgery O’Malley realesed a statement that Embiid’s foot bone was a much better situation than Durant’s b/c when they actually opened Embiid’s foot they saw that he had much better blood flow to the area than Durant…. & this allowed them to harvest bone from Embiid’s own hip to widen & thicken the bone w/ a graft. …. They did not need the non-FDA approved material used in Durant’s case….
If you want to read more about the "Non-FDA approved Bone Graft material" I read an article about it on Bleacher Report.com concerning Durant’s surgery & for Embiid’s Surgery just Google Dr. Martin O’Malley & Joel Embiid 2nd Foot Surgery…..
According to the Sixers Embiid’s recovery time is 5 – 8 months…… which is roughly the exact same recovery time as Durant….. but b/c he is so young they are going to be extra cautious & keep him out the entire season so he’ll have a full 12 months to recover….
I’m not saying I agree with that – i’m just relaying what I read in response to your question…..
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:21am #1029312
circumlocution75Participantfuse the bone in Durant’s foot… This surgeon specialized in using this material… The Sixers brought this guy in as part of Embiid’s 2nd surgical team b/c they were doing a full bone graft this time to thicken (&strengthen) the bone……
Thicken the bone in Durant’s foot. Apparently these foot bones are difficult to heal b/c our feet are so far from our heart it is difficult to get proper blood flow & that blood flow is what actually heals the bone…..
Embiid delayed his 2nd surgery last summer so he could talk to Durant & consult his surgeon – Dr. Martin O’Malley about having the same material used in Embiid’s surgery….
A big fear w/ Embiid is that the guy is still growing….. So the Sixers added O’Malley to Embiid’s surgical team & he actually performed the surgery….
After the surgery O’Malley realesed a statement that Embiid’s foot bone was a much better situation than Durant’s b/c when they actually opened Embiid’s foot they saw that he had much better blood flow to the area than Durant…. & this allowed them to harvest bone from Embiid’s own hip to widen & thicken the bone w/ a graft. …. They did not need the non-FDA approved material used in Durant’s case….
If you want to read more about the "Non-FDA approved Bone Graft material" I read an article about it on Bleacher Report.com concerning Durant’s surgery & for Embiid’s Surgery just Google Dr. Martin O’Malley & Joel Embiid 2nd Foot Surgery…..
According to the Sixers Embiid’s recovery time is 5 – 8 months…… which is roughly the exact same recovery time as Durant….. but b/c he is so young they are going to be extra cautious & keep him out the entire season so he’ll have a full 12 months to recover….
I’m not saying I agree with that – i’m just relaying what I read in response to your question…..
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:14pm #1029402
whiteflashParticipantAlright, this is getting a bit silly. "Okafor’s ability on the offensive end"? The kid averaged 11ppg in his lone season. That’s not exactly setting the world on fire…. Look, the kid was drafted STRICTLY off of potential, but outside of an excellent physical profile for basketball and solid defensive instincts he hasn’t shown much other than immaturity and an unwillingness to do what’s needed to improve. People comparing him to the BEST CENTER OF THE MODERN ERA are out of their minds and don’t know basketball. Even healthy, chances are he’s Olawakandi 2.0. That’s not a knock, just reality.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:14pm #1029537
whiteflashParticipantAlright, this is getting a bit silly. "Okafor’s ability on the offensive end"? The kid averaged 11ppg in his lone season. That’s not exactly setting the world on fire…. Look, the kid was drafted STRICTLY off of potential, but outside of an excellent physical profile for basketball and solid defensive instincts he hasn’t shown much other than immaturity and an unwillingness to do what’s needed to improve. People comparing him to the BEST CENTER OF THE MODERN ERA are out of their minds and don’t know basketball. Even healthy, chances are he’s Olawakandi 2.0. That’s not a knock, just reality.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:54am #1029355

lakesidebenParticipantJust speculation without a full physical, he’s either broken or he’s not. Lavine for Embiid? Philly could use a talented young guard and the idea of a Rubio/Wiggins/ Muhammad Bjelica/Towns/Embiid is interesting.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:37am #1029228

natevalParticipantJust my opinion but at this point I think Philly is going to wait and see what they have with a healthy Embiid, no need to trade him for twenty five cents on the dollar his ceiling (which he may never reach) is too high.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:37am #1029363

natevalParticipantJust my opinion but at this point I think Philly is going to wait and see what they have with a healthy Embiid, no need to trade him for twenty five cents on the dollar his ceiling (which he may never reach) is too high.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:49am #1029230

SlickBouncePassParticipantLavine for Embiid? First of all Brett Brown loves Embiid. All the reports from the beat writers are that they still feel he is the franchise player on the roster. I know he hasn’t played in a while, and he has that little foot thing going on, but I love his potential and so do the Sixers. He’s supposedly ahead of schedule so let’s see. They aren’t gonna trade him away for Lavine, Philly needs heady ballers, not dunk contest champs.
I did like Lavine’s jumper and athleticism in college, and I wanted Philly to take him over Saric/Stauskas/Payton. I’ll do Stauskas for Lavine…how about that? Man, only because Stauskas has been exposed, watching him play against Jimmy Butler he looked like he belonged in the D-league. His lack of athleticism is so apparent, but I like that he’ll knock a 3 here and there. Hopefully he improves. Why can’t Lavine drive hard and finish? Tony Wroten can basically do everything Lavine can do and drive to the hole, besides the monster dunk and epic post-dunk staredown.
I dont own the Sixers but I woudln’t trade him, I’d ride or die with him. He is a 7’2” that hit 3s repeatedly in practice and do between the leg dunks. Olajuwon potential is too tempting.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:49am #1029365

SlickBouncePassParticipantLavine for Embiid? First of all Brett Brown loves Embiid. All the reports from the beat writers are that they still feel he is the franchise player on the roster. I know he hasn’t played in a while, and he has that little foot thing going on, but I love his potential and so do the Sixers. He’s supposedly ahead of schedule so let’s see. They aren’t gonna trade him away for Lavine, Philly needs heady ballers, not dunk contest champs.
I did like Lavine’s jumper and athleticism in college, and I wanted Philly to take him over Saric/Stauskas/Payton. I’ll do Stauskas for Lavine…how about that? Man, only because Stauskas has been exposed, watching him play against Jimmy Butler he looked like he belonged in the D-league. His lack of athleticism is so apparent, but I like that he’ll knock a 3 here and there. Hopefully he improves. Why can’t Lavine drive hard and finish? Tony Wroten can basically do everything Lavine can do and drive to the hole, besides the monster dunk and epic post-dunk staredown.
I dont own the Sixers but I woudln’t trade him, I’d ride or die with him. He is a 7’2” that hit 3s repeatedly in practice and do between the leg dunks. Olajuwon potential is too tempting.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 6:49am #1029234

negguaryParticipantypu don’t take that trade when his potential ceiling is on the scale of Anthony Davis,potential I say!! lol the only way you make that trade is if you know he’s done, but if not you just don’t walk away from that without knowing for sure. That’s like leaving the girl of your dreams for someone that’s basic because she’s away at college so you settle for the around the way girl be shad you ran out of patience!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 6:49am #1029369

negguaryParticipantypu don’t take that trade when his potential ceiling is on the scale of Anthony Davis,potential I say!! lol the only way you make that trade is if you know he’s done, but if not you just don’t walk away from that without knowing for sure. That’s like leaving the girl of your dreams for someone that’s basic because she’s away at college so you settle for the around the way girl be shad you ran out of patience!
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 6:56am #1029238
ballislyfe25ParticipantI don’t know the particulars about Embiid’s foot injuries but seeing how Brook Lopez has been able to bounce back from foot problems (fingers crossed) and actually improve gives me some hope.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 6:56am #1029373
ballislyfe25ParticipantI don’t know the particulars about Embiid’s foot injuries but seeing how Brook Lopez has been able to bounce back from foot problems (fingers crossed) and actually improve gives me some hope.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:02am #1029387
markfitz14ParticipantIt would be nice if he did like a Paul George and came back for the last 5 games of this season if possibile. Might take the pressure off of being out all summer again, then coming back.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:02am #1029252
markfitz14ParticipantIt would be nice if he did like a Paul George and came back for the last 5 games of this season if possibile. Might take the pressure off of being out all summer again, then coming back.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:20am #1029393

Reptilian MonkParticipantEmbiid played much better than Wiggins at Kansas his potential is unreal if healthy.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:20am #1029258

Reptilian MonkParticipantEmbiid played much better than Wiggins at Kansas his potential is unreal if healthy.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:22am #1029395
Gold ChainEmbiid for David Lee and James Young. Who says no?
Lee gives them veteran experience and James Young is like a more athletic but more raw Stauskas.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:22am #1029260
Gold ChainEmbiid for David Lee and James Young. Who says no?
Lee gives them veteran experience and James Young is like a more athletic but more raw Stauskas.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:46am #1029403

natevalParticipantI don’t think Philly answers the phone for that one T-Rex.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:46am #1029268

natevalParticipantI don’t think Philly answers the phone for that one T-Rex.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 9:23am #1029417
Gold ChainWhat if we keep James Young and just give them David Lee? They already have Stauskas anyway…
Just thinking out loud here.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 9:23am #1029282
Gold ChainWhat if we keep James Young and just give them David Lee? They already have Stauskas anyway…
Just thinking out loud here.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 9:28am #1029419

ZachAttackParticipantThat is seriously THE DUMBEST thing I’ve ever seen.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 9:28am #1029284

ZachAttackParticipantThat is seriously THE DUMBEST thing I’ve ever seen.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 10:42am #1029441
Gold Chainbecause you’re too dumb to know sarcasm when you see it.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 10:42am #1029306
Gold Chainbecause you’re too dumb to know sarcasm when you see it.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 2:03pm #1029481

he_gets_bucketsParticipant"Guys I was only PRETENDING to be stupid!"
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 2:03pm #1029346

he_gets_bucketsParticipant"Guys I was only PRETENDING to be stupid!"
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:06pm #1029450

ZachAttackParticipantSorry, you’ve said too many dumb things on this site to know when you’re serious or not.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:18pm #1029460
Gold ChainDon’t apologize, just think. If the best scout on here says something that sounds really dumb, stop and think for two seconds before you embarrass yourself.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:18pm #1029595
Gold ChainDon’t apologize, just think. If the best scout on here says something that sounds really dumb, stop and think for two seconds before you embarrass yourself.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:06pm #1029585

ZachAttackParticipantSorry, you’ve said too many dumb things on this site to know when you’re serious or not.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:44am #1029399

HitsterParticipantPhilly will issue an update on Embiid when they see fit but from what we gather his rehab is going well and I’d love to see him on an NBA court this season. As said above if he makes his debut this season then Brett Brown can have a look at him and figure out how he uses the 3 man big rotation of Embiid, Noel and the Oak.
Also if Philly gets Embiid back and playing it clears up their draft priorities for 2016 too.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 8:44am #1029264

HitsterParticipantPhilly will issue an update on Embiid when they see fit but from what we gather his rehab is going well and I’d love to see him on an NBA court this season. As said above if he makes his debut this season then Brett Brown can have a look at him and figure out how he uses the 3 man big rotation of Embiid, Noel and the Oak.
Also if Philly gets Embiid back and playing it clears up their draft priorities for 2016 too.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 10:04am #1029431

he_gets_bucketsParticipantI feel like Embiid is starting to become this mythical figure and everyone is hyping him up as if he is amazing on both ends already- one poster above said he had Rudy Goberts defensive capabilities and Okafors offensive abilities which just baffles me because he would have a couple good moves in a game in college and then completely dissapear the rest of it- he is far from being consistent on the offensive end, and extremely far from being the polished post operator Okafor is.
I feel like the longer he doesn’t get on the court the more people are going to create this image in their heads of Hakeem 2.0 and I don’t think he can live up to that, at least not in his first few years in the NBA
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 10:04am #1029296

he_gets_bucketsParticipantI feel like Embiid is starting to become this mythical figure and everyone is hyping him up as if he is amazing on both ends already- one poster above said he had Rudy Goberts defensive capabilities and Okafors offensive abilities which just baffles me because he would have a couple good moves in a game in college and then completely dissapear the rest of it- he is far from being consistent on the offensive end, and extremely far from being the polished post operator Okafor is.
I feel like the longer he doesn’t get on the court the more people are going to create this image in their heads of Hakeem 2.0 and I don’t think he can live up to that, at least not in his first few years in the NBA
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:22am #1029449
Ebown5ParticipantWhether he gets on the court or not, he was being compared to Hakeem before he got hurt.
He has no holes in his game that experience can’t fix. He just needs healthy.
Gobert on D and Okafor on offense is probably pretty fair. Gobert is basically a phyiscally dominating center who is still learning how to play. Okafor is a very polished offensive player, and Embiid is definitely not as pollished as him, and though he has a soft touch, it probably isn’t as soft as Okafors. However, he is already bigger, faster, and shoots the ball from distance way better than Okafor.
The flipside to your point about tales of Embiid growing in the telling, is that people are forgetting what he is capable of because he has been out of sight for a while, and has been hurt for so long.
If he comes back healthy, he is going to be a problem for the league.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 11:22am #1029314
Ebown5ParticipantWhether he gets on the court or not, he was being compared to Hakeem before he got hurt.
He has no holes in his game that experience can’t fix. He just needs healthy.
Gobert on D and Okafor on offense is probably pretty fair. Gobert is basically a phyiscally dominating center who is still learning how to play. Okafor is a very polished offensive player, and Embiid is definitely not as pollished as him, and though he has a soft touch, it probably isn’t as soft as Okafors. However, he is already bigger, faster, and shoots the ball from distance way better than Okafor.
The flipside to your point about tales of Embiid growing in the telling, is that people are forgetting what he is capable of because he has been out of sight for a while, and has been hurt for so long.
If he comes back healthy, he is going to be a problem for the league.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:24pm #1029453
VCJR THE BEASTParticipantPhilly will need to choose. Embiid or Noel or Okafor. One of them will be traded. I think Noel will because his contract will end in 2017.
possible trades:
Noel for Celtics Terry Rozyer and Brooklyn 1st Round pick
Noel for Magic Tobias Harris and Orlando 1st Round pick
Noel for Wizards Otto Porter and Ramon Sessions and Washington 1st Round pick
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:24pm #1029318
VCJR THE BEASTParticipantPhilly will need to choose. Embiid or Noel or Okafor. One of them will be traded. I think Noel will because his contract will end in 2017.
possible trades:
Noel for Celtics Terry Rozyer and Brooklyn 1st Round pick
Noel for Magic Tobias Harris and Orlando 1st Round pick
Noel for Wizards Otto Porter and Ramon Sessions and Washington 1st Round pick
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:36pm #1029459
Scrooge McBucketsParticipantIf Boston is dumb enuff to give us Brooklyn’s 1st pick, I do it immediately! Between Our 1st pick ping pong balls, brooklyn 1st pick ping pong balls and the Sacramento’s pink ping balls (we have the option to swap this year or next year) there is no way we arent getting Ben Simmons
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:36pm #1029324
Scrooge McBucketsParticipantIf Boston is dumb enuff to give us Brooklyn’s 1st pick, I do it immediately! Between Our 1st pick ping pong balls, brooklyn 1st pick ping pong balls and the Sacramento’s pink ping balls (we have the option to swap this year or next year) there is no way we arent getting Ben Simmons
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:55pm #1029465
Gold ChainLuckily Danny probably isn’t dumb enough to trade the Nets pick for Noel, who only has 1.5 years on his rookie deal anyway.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:55pm #1029330
Gold ChainLuckily Danny probably isn’t dumb enough to trade the Nets pick for Noel, who only has 1.5 years on his rookie deal anyway.
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- Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 5:44am #1029657

MatosParticipantCome on man. Im from Philly and im starting to get tired of the outlandish trade senarios our sports teams suggest. Lets not make biased senarios and instead be more realistic.
Boston
Sixers will not get Terry Rozier and Brooklyn’s 1st round pick – especially considering that pick is more than likely top 3 or top 5. Personally (and more realistically) I think if they really wanted to trade Noel to Boston, they should target a player like Avery Bradley. Great defensive talent that will be needed if they bring on an influx of young offensive talent as it seenms they will for next year.Orlando
They should target Oladipo here. If there are some other pieces with Noel Sixers need to throw in (as long as its not any of their first 3 1st round picks) do it.Washington
Aint gonna happen and aint nobody on the squad besides Beal & Wall that Sixers should even want for Noel. At this point considering Noel a bench option would be best.0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 5:44am #1029521

MatosParticipantCome on man. Im from Philly and im starting to get tired of the outlandish trade senarios our sports teams suggest. Lets not make biased senarios and instead be more realistic.
Boston
Sixers will not get Terry Rozier and Brooklyn’s 1st round pick – especially considering that pick is more than likely top 3 or top 5. Personally (and more realistically) I think if they really wanted to trade Noel to Boston, they should target a player like Avery Bradley. Great defensive talent that will be needed if they bring on an influx of young offensive talent as it seenms they will for next year.Orlando
They should target Oladipo here. If there are some other pieces with Noel Sixers need to throw in (as long as its not any of their first 3 1st round picks) do it.Washington
Aint gonna happen and aint nobody on the squad besides Beal & Wall that Sixers should even want for Noel. At this point considering Noel a bench option would be best.0
- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:33pm #1029457
EspressoParticipantI don’t think Embiid post moves are as polished as Okafor’s but he constantly made advanced post moves in college, and I’m not talking about Okafor’s hook with a defender drapped all over him, I’m talking about ‘up and unders’, post spin moves, drop steps, STAR plays.
I don’t remember him dissapearing much in college, he wasn’t as assertive about getting post position and scoring like Okafor, but he I don’t remember ghosting games. He would always have those monsters games but when he didnt, and scored like 8 points, he would pair that with 9 rebounds and 3 blocks and (2 assist that’ll make you wow).
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 12:33pm #1029322
EspressoParticipantI don’t think Embiid post moves are as polished as Okafor’s but he constantly made advanced post moves in college, and I’m not talking about Okafor’s hook with a defender drapped all over him, I’m talking about ‘up and unders’, post spin moves, drop steps, STAR plays.
I don’t remember him dissapearing much in college, he wasn’t as assertive about getting post position and scoring like Okafor, but he I don’t remember ghosting games. He would always have those monsters games but when he didnt, and scored like 8 points, he would pair that with 9 rebounds and 3 blocks and (2 assist that’ll make you wow).
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 1:13pm #1029469

negguaryParticipantI don’t think anyone on here that knows basketball and actually watched Embid in college is questioning his talent and his out of this world ceiling, yes Gobert on D and Okafor on offense, but pondering on whether he can get healthy and stay healthy. This is coming from an Okafor guy who has watched every sixers game he’s played in and I still feel that Embid gets back and is healthy is the number one guy on the team. I mean the kid is mean, strong, athletic and might I say can shoot threes!!! No to mention his ceiling is even higher being as though he only started picking up a basketball not too long ago. Imagine what he could do when he actually grasps the game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 1:13pm #1029334

negguaryParticipantI don’t think anyone on here that knows basketball and actually watched Embid in college is questioning his talent and his out of this world ceiling, yes Gobert on D and Okafor on offense, but pondering on whether he can get healthy and stay healthy. This is coming from an Okafor guy who has watched every sixers game he’s played in and I still feel that Embid gets back and is healthy is the number one guy on the team. I mean the kid is mean, strong, athletic and might I say can shoot threes!!! No to mention his ceiling is even higher being as though he only started picking up a basketball not too long ago. Imagine what he could do when he actually grasps the game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 2:20pm #1029487

omphalosParticipantEmbiid is basically a better version of Towns – has the post game, the athleticism and mobility on the defensive end and shooting range out to the 3-point line, plus he has better size and is more fluid in the post.
If you’re the Celtics and you have a chance to trade the Nets pick (assume top 3) for Embiid, would you do it?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 2:20pm #1029352

omphalosParticipantEmbiid is basically a better version of Towns – has the post game, the athleticism and mobility on the defensive end and shooting range out to the 3-point line, plus he has better size and is more fluid in the post.
If you’re the Celtics and you have a chance to trade the Nets pick (assume top 3) for Embiid, would you do it?
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:16pm #1029414
Gold ChainTough call. Porzingis is 7’3, around the same height as Embiid, but Porzinig’s is carrying a lot less weight.
I think Embiid’s days of being below 300 lbs are over. You look at Brook Lopez and Pekovic, and their weight doesn’t help their longevity.
Combine a dubious work ethic with big bones and a gigantic 7’2 frame, and you could be looking at a 340 lb Sullinger.
Embiid only has 2 years left on his rookie contract after this year, and nobody would be shocked if his career longevity wasn’t that great.
On the other hand, even a lazy Embiid might be the next Shaq or something.
Given the damage Embiid could do in the playoffs even if he was injured or kept out of the regular season, yeah, it would probably be hard to pass up trading for Embiid.
The league is changing, but that means there are very few who could handle Embiid in the post.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:16pm #1029549
Gold ChainTough call. Porzingis is 7’3, around the same height as Embiid, but Porzinig’s is carrying a lot less weight.
I think Embiid’s days of being below 300 lbs are over. You look at Brook Lopez and Pekovic, and their weight doesn’t help their longevity.
Combine a dubious work ethic with big bones and a gigantic 7’2 frame, and you could be looking at a 340 lb Sullinger.
Embiid only has 2 years left on his rookie contract after this year, and nobody would be shocked if his career longevity wasn’t that great.
On the other hand, even a lazy Embiid might be the next Shaq or something.
Given the damage Embiid could do in the playoffs even if he was injured or kept out of the regular season, yeah, it would probably be hard to pass up trading for Embiid.
The league is changing, but that means there are very few who could handle Embiid in the post.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:28pm #1029404

natevalParticipantIf he check’s out healthy around draft time? I do it. Embiid is a huge talent
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:28pm #1029539

natevalParticipantIf he check’s out healthy around draft time? I do it. Embiid is a huge talent
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:30pm #1029406

natevalParticipantThe Boston environment would be a good thing for his development too
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 4:30pm #1029541

natevalParticipantThe Boston environment would be a good thing for his development too
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:11pm #1029412

The Scare Crow RisesParticipantA healthy Embiid goes 1st or 2nd in this draft IMO, he’s a generational talent just like Simmons, Wiggins and Anthony Davis…
The 3rd to 5th pick in this draft will not be a generational talent, not saying a Jaylen Brown or Kris Dunn couldnt surprise us and become Hall of Fame players Ala Chris Bosh and Dwuane Wade but that is a long shot at this point, Simmons looks like he’s destined to be very good for a long time barring a fluke Joel Embiid like string of injuries…
The Nets pick would not be enough to tempt me to trade away Joel unless it was the 2nd overall and we already walked away with Ben Simmons, the 76ers would be building around Big Ben and the Okafor/Noel/Saric front court and they could probally flip the Lakers and/or Nets picks for a Star Guard, or draft Murray/Dunn/Ingram to fill out the Back Court…
Come to think about I wouldn’t stray from the course, let’s trust the process and just hope we land Simmons #1 overall, the Lakers pick lands outside the top 3 so we can Draft our PG/SG and assume Joel and Dario will be playing their 1st official NBA games next October
Ben Simmons and a guard like Kris Dunn would look phenomenal on the court with a healthy Embiid, Okafor, Noel, Saric, Wroten, Stauskas, Covington and Grant, add a few vets and couple shooters to fill out the final 2-5 spots and the team would look very dangerous
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/07/2015 - 5:11pm #1029547

The Scare Crow RisesParticipantA healthy Embiid goes 1st or 2nd in this draft IMO, he’s a generational talent just like Simmons, Wiggins and Anthony Davis…
The 3rd to 5th pick in this draft will not be a generational talent, not saying a Jaylen Brown or Kris Dunn couldnt surprise us and become Hall of Fame players Ala Chris Bosh and Dwuane Wade but that is a long shot at this point, Simmons looks like he’s destined to be very good for a long time barring a fluke Joel Embiid like string of injuries…
The Nets pick would not be enough to tempt me to trade away Joel unless it was the 2nd overall and we already walked away with Ben Simmons, the 76ers would be building around Big Ben and the Okafor/Noel/Saric front court and they could probally flip the Lakers and/or Nets picks for a Star Guard, or draft Murray/Dunn/Ingram to fill out the Back Court…
Come to think about I wouldn’t stray from the course, let’s trust the process and just hope we land Simmons #1 overall, the Lakers pick lands outside the top 3 so we can Draft our PG/SG and assume Joel and Dario will be playing their 1st official NBA games next October
Ben Simmons and a guard like Kris Dunn would look phenomenal on the court with a healthy Embiid, Okafor, Noel, Saric, Wroten, Stauskas, Covington and Grant, add a few vets and couple shooters to fill out the final 2-5 spots and the team would look very dangerous
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 6:12am #1029667

HitsterParticipantTeams can run a 3 man big rotation quite easilly as long as one guy is prepared to come from the bench unless they do specific match ups for certain oponents.
I would think Hinkie would wait until trade offers came to him as then he can control the asking price and get the best offer if he did decide to make a move.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 6:12am #1029531

HitsterParticipantTeams can run a 3 man big rotation quite easilly as long as one guy is prepared to come from the bench unless they do specific match ups for certain oponents.
I would think Hinkie would wait until trade offers came to him as then he can control the asking price and get the best offer if he did decide to make a move.
0- Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 8:26am #1029727

MatosParticipantAs much as I want to believe that these bigs will work, trust me. They wont. When Embiid is healthy and if he starts at center: Okafor aint comin off the bench – no way. That means Okafor is at PF, where he would be too slow and not have enough range to be the stretch big that he would need to be. Embiid has no proven potential for a consistent outside shot to be a stretch big.
Now a days, if you’re gonna have one of your bigs clog the paint, the other has to either be a very mobile big (athletic), or has to be able to knock down shots and move (normally the PF does this).
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/08/2015 - 8:26am #1029592

MatosParticipantAs much as I want to believe that these bigs will work, trust me. They wont. When Embiid is healthy and if he starts at center: Okafor aint comin off the bench – no way. That means Okafor is at PF, where he would be too slow and not have enough range to be the stretch big that he would need to be. Embiid has no proven potential for a consistent outside shot to be a stretch big.
Now a days, if you’re gonna have one of your bigs clog the paint, the other has to either be a very mobile big (athletic), or has to be able to knock down shots and move (normally the PF does this).
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