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- Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 8:47pm #61963
SkalAndJamalParticipantFor all the naysayers, wait when we are half way through the season. Dude will make one of many huge strides in his career.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:08pm #1026645
AdamJCallejaParticipantStill have a lot of faith in D’angelo, he’s not no Evan Turner that’s for sure, he’ll be a better pro.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:08pm #1026779
AdamJCallejaParticipantStill have a lot of faith in D’angelo, he’s not no Evan Turner that’s for sure, he’ll be a better pro.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:14pm #1026647
DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64Bighead Scott is holding him back!! fire Scott !!!!and Hire LL Perez as coach
0- Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:26pm #1026651
MopgrassParticipantI think they finish the year/contract and bring in Tibbs.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:14am #1026831
Magic JordanParticipantThis would be another coaching hire failure. And about the third coach in a row they hired who doesn’t fit with the players they have. They have about zero defensive players.
I thinkmost or alot of Laker fans are all in on Luke Walton. A fresh coach, hungry who can put together a modern system.
I only worry about the inevitable mountains of losses piling up and hurting Walton’s confidence. Any other concerns I would have about such an inexperienced coach I’m willing to look past just for the sake of trying something new and not more retread coaches.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:14am #1026697
Magic JordanParticipantThis would be another coaching hire failure. And about the third coach in a row they hired who doesn’t fit with the players they have. They have about zero defensive players.
I thinkmost or alot of Laker fans are all in on Luke Walton. A fresh coach, hungry who can put together a modern system.
I only worry about the inevitable mountains of losses piling up and hurting Walton’s confidence. Any other concerns I would have about such an inexperienced coach I’m willing to look past just for the sake of trying something new and not more retread coaches.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:51am #1026835
MopgrassParticipantI’m always surprised Clarkson isn’t a lockdown guy. He’s athletic and long. If he worked as hard on defense as he does on offense he’d be stellar. Randle doesn’t have the measurements, but has the strength and hustle to be good on D. Russell could become average. It’s just that none of that’s happening. Even Hibbert, once known as the defensive stalwart, allows the many faster centers to go right around him in isolation (slow feet). They really better hope they can develop Upshaw.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:51am #1026701
MopgrassParticipantI’m always surprised Clarkson isn’t a lockdown guy. He’s athletic and long. If he worked as hard on defense as he does on offense he’d be stellar. Randle doesn’t have the measurements, but has the strength and hustle to be good on D. Russell could become average. It’s just that none of that’s happening. Even Hibbert, once known as the defensive stalwart, allows the many faster centers to go right around him in isolation (slow feet). They really better hope they can develop Upshaw.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:01am #1026841
FrankStalloneRandle and Russell will never become average, and Clarkson will never be a defensive stud.
Russell can get more comfortable offensively, but his foot speed and mental reaction time will always be a day late and a dollar short.
Randle and Russell could make an above average bench unit, putting up empty points against backups, or they can be the core starters of a team that perennially leaves supporters playing dumb as to why the team sucks so much.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:01am #1026707
FrankStalloneRandle and Russell will never become average, and Clarkson will never be a defensive stud.
Russell can get more comfortable offensively, but his foot speed and mental reaction time will always be a day late and a dollar short.
Randle and Russell could make an above average bench unit, putting up empty points against backups, or they can be the core starters of a team that perennially leaves supporters playing dumb as to why the team sucks so much.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:50am #1026861
Magic JordanParticipantI doubt you have watched any of the Lakers so all I hear from you is..
"Dar dar dar, Marcus Smart Kelly O, dar dar dar"
Randle should be fine defensively. He has a good motor and should be able to switch almost everything. The 20 year old kid will gain better understanding with more repetition. He doesn’t have a great standing reach, but he moves his feet better than 95% of the PF’s in the league. He will be fine.
Even if Russell turns out to be an average defender, which I think he will. It’s tough to be a true stand out going against PG’s in the league every night. Even a perennial DPOY candidate in Marcus Smart routinely gets 20 dropped against him. It’s just a tough position to guard, nobody locks any of the top PGs down.
Mental reaction time? What? Just another baseless statement from T-Rex. Mental reaction time? Tell me genius, how are you quantifying mental reaction time? All I can imagine is you sitting in your basement with a stop watch trying to figure out a way to time mental reaction time. How is it that you do it?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:50am #1026727
Magic JordanParticipantI doubt you have watched any of the Lakers so all I hear from you is..
"Dar dar dar, Marcus Smart Kelly O, dar dar dar"
Randle should be fine defensively. He has a good motor and should be able to switch almost everything. The 20 year old kid will gain better understanding with more repetition. He doesn’t have a great standing reach, but he moves his feet better than 95% of the PF’s in the league. He will be fine.
Even if Russell turns out to be an average defender, which I think he will. It’s tough to be a true stand out going against PG’s in the league every night. Even a perennial DPOY candidate in Marcus Smart routinely gets 20 dropped against him. It’s just a tough position to guard, nobody locks any of the top PGs down.
Mental reaction time? What? Just another baseless statement from T-Rex. Mental reaction time? Tell me genius, how are you quantifying mental reaction time? All I can imagine is you sitting in your basement with a stop watch trying to figure out a way to time mental reaction time. How is it that you do it?
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:01am #1026865
FrankStalloneStill circling the wagons around your bust. You said it yourself that SG is a very hard position to guard, and yet you think the slowest nba guard in the league, DBust, is going to become average defensively.
Russell is simply a slow twitch human being. Did the slowest kid on the playground in elementary school suddenly become a 100 meter track star in high school? Hell no.
Just watch Russell on defense, his reaction speed, as well as his muscle twitch speed, are sloooo mooo.
He can improve his mental reaction speed with experience and improved anticipation, but his muscles are slooow twitch, and simply don’t move quickly like a real nba guard needs them to.
You’re still sitting there wishing and hoping that the slowest kid on the nba playground is going to miraculously turn into a quick twitch athlete. It never happens, and it never did.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:01am #1026731
FrankStalloneStill circling the wagons around your bust. You said it yourself that SG is a very hard position to guard, and yet you think the slowest nba guard in the league, DBust, is going to become average defensively.
Russell is simply a slow twitch human being. Did the slowest kid on the playground in elementary school suddenly become a 100 meter track star in high school? Hell no.
Just watch Russell on defense, his reaction speed, as well as his muscle twitch speed, are sloooo mooo.
He can improve his mental reaction speed with experience and improved anticipation, but his muscles are slooow twitch, and simply don’t move quickly like a real nba guard needs them to.
You’re still sitting there wishing and hoping that the slowest kid on the nba playground is going to miraculously turn into a quick twitch athlete. It never happens, and it never did.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:48am #1026879
Magic JordanParticipantNo, I am not hoping that. I don’t create unrealistic expectations for players. It’s why you won’t hear me say Porzingis will be the greatest player of all time, or Marcus Smart will be a DPOY candidate THIS YEAR, and why I don’t compare people like Terry Rozier to Russell Westbrook. I mean I could really go on and on about your stupidity but I think it is best summed up with……
The fact is, you are so down on Russell he is bound to be great. Since you’re scouting and analysis of players is absolute dog shit 98% of the time.
If T-Rex says he’s a bust, he must be alright.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:48am #1026745
Magic JordanParticipantNo, I am not hoping that. I don’t create unrealistic expectations for players. It’s why you won’t hear me say Porzingis will be the greatest player of all time, or Marcus Smart will be a DPOY candidate THIS YEAR, and why I don’t compare people like Terry Rozier to Russell Westbrook. I mean I could really go on and on about your stupidity but I think it is best summed up with……
The fact is, you are so down on Russell he is bound to be great. Since you’re scouting and analysis of players is absolute dog shit 98% of the time.
If T-Rex says he’s a bust, he must be alright.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 8:52am #1026915
FrankStallonelol, you might not want to point to my Porzingis obvservations/predictions right now, considering he’s averaging 19/11.5/2.8 blocks in his last 4 games.
And the Celtics had the #1 defense in the NBA, led by Smart, before he went down a couple games ago.
And my Rozier/Westbrook comparison was about athleticism, seeing as they tested out almost the exact same at their combines.
And the Olynyk Effect has him with the best +/- per 36 among all centers, so you might not want to point to that one either.
I’m sure you can find something though. Try exaggerating my views until they seem absurd. You’ll get lots of +1s and nobody will even care that you’re just making sh1t up.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 8:52am #1026780
FrankStallonelol, you might not want to point to my Porzingis obvservations/predictions right now, considering he’s averaging 19/11.5/2.8 blocks in his last 4 games.
And the Celtics had the #1 defense in the NBA, led by Smart, before he went down a couple games ago.
And my Rozier/Westbrook comparison was about athleticism, seeing as they tested out almost the exact same at their combines.
And the Olynyk Effect has him with the best +/- per 36 among all centers, so you might not want to point to that one either.
I’m sure you can find something though. Try exaggerating my views until they seem absurd. You’ll get lots of +1s and nobody will even care that you’re just making sh1t up.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 9:41am #1026927
Magic JordanParticipantI don’t need to exaggerate your views to make them seem absurd. You do that yourself.
Making shit up? Look at the pot calling the kettle black. Nobody does that more than you.
For every Porzingis pick, you have ten that are wrong. Hence why I gave you the benefit of the doubt at 98%. No the math doesn’t add up but you wouldn’t have noticed.
About the Olynyk Effect. Sure is easy for you to point to per 36 numbers when he is averaging 17.7 minutes per game. Double his minutes, against non 2nd units and the Olynyk effect quickly becomes next to non existent. But the fact is, that’s not what happens is it? Nope, he plays against 2nd units almost exclusively…. to the exhausting tune of 17.7 minutes per game.
So it’s ironic for you to constantly label Russell and Randle as future quality bench players. Then point to Olynyk as something other than that, when your advanced statistics that you worship show he is exactly that. A quality bench player.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 9:41am #1026792
Magic JordanParticipantI don’t need to exaggerate your views to make them seem absurd. You do that yourself.
Making shit up? Look at the pot calling the kettle black. Nobody does that more than you.
For every Porzingis pick, you have ten that are wrong. Hence why I gave you the benefit of the doubt at 98%. No the math doesn’t add up but you wouldn’t have noticed.
About the Olynyk Effect. Sure is easy for you to point to per 36 numbers when he is averaging 17.7 minutes per game. Double his minutes, against non 2nd units and the Olynyk effect quickly becomes next to non existent. But the fact is, that’s not what happens is it? Nope, he plays against 2nd units almost exclusively…. to the exhausting tune of 17.7 minutes per game.
So it’s ironic for you to constantly label Russell and Randle as future quality bench players. Then point to Olynyk as something other than that, when your advanced statistics that you worship show he is exactly that. A quality bench player.
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- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:42am #1026849
ballislyfe25ParticipantLuke seems like a natural fit for, most importantly, this roster. A system similar to the Golden State’s is perfect for Russell, Clarkson, and Randle.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:42am #1026715
ballislyfe25ParticipantLuke seems like a natural fit for, most importantly, this roster. A system similar to the Golden State’s is perfect for Russell, Clarkson, and Randle.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:26pm #1026785
MopgrassParticipantI think they finish the year/contract and bring in Tibbs.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:49am #1026859
ballislyfe25ParticipantScott is definitely holding him back. Not only do his outdated set plays not fit Russell and the roster but he clearly has told Russell to walk the ball up court and not push the pace.
If you watched Russell at Ohio State last year, the plays/sets that benefitted him most and that he was comfortable running the Lakers have yet to use at all. Namely, high and side spread pick and rolls, pushing the pace in transition and attacking the rim, and running him off of screens for spot up 3’s when he is playing with another ball handler. Russell also has the size to post up smaller guards and did it in college and a few times in the preseason but we have yet to see that again. He will never be a dominant defender but he will improve and has size and length to help.
Spacing offensively is another problem I’m seeing with Scott’s team. It would be frustrating to watch Steph Curry and James Harden if they were playing a slow pace with 2-3 nonshooters consistently on the floor.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:49am #1026725
ballislyfe25ParticipantScott is definitely holding him back. Not only do his outdated set plays not fit Russell and the roster but he clearly has told Russell to walk the ball up court and not push the pace.
If you watched Russell at Ohio State last year, the plays/sets that benefitted him most and that he was comfortable running the Lakers have yet to use at all. Namely, high and side spread pick and rolls, pushing the pace in transition and attacking the rim, and running him off of screens for spot up 3’s when he is playing with another ball handler. Russell also has the size to post up smaller guards and did it in college and a few times in the preseason but we have yet to see that again. He will never be a dominant defender but he will improve and has size and length to help.
Spacing offensively is another problem I’m seeing with Scott’s team. It would be frustrating to watch Steph Curry and James Harden if they were playing a slow pace with 2-3 nonshooters consistently on the floor.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:14pm #1026781
DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64Bighead Scott is holding him back!! fire Scott !!!!and Hire LL Perez as coach
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:28pm #1026649
MopgrassParticipantHe actually has looked way better the last 3 or 4 games. He’s even getting to the rack a little. I’ve even seen the guy run at a decent clip. I feel like he chooses not to run fast (which is weird… perhaps he’s secretly average speed). He’s still not completely running the offense, so he doesn’t turn the ball over much, but he also doesn’t get assists. However, had he not gone out of that last game with an injury, he might have had a triple double. At this point, I’m no longer concerned. Better pick than Okafor? We’ll see.
Side note: at the end of all games, the Lakers should always put the ball in Clarkson’s hands. He’s the only one who can always get off a shot and make it consistently. He should be asked to score more.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:57am #1026863
Magic JordanParticipantI agree with pretty much everything you said. I think people confuse Russells top speed with the pace that he plays at. For those that actually watch the games, when he needs to he shows plenty of burst. I do think he holds back which I will agree is weird.
He’s never going to be the athlete that Marcus Smart (wink), Westbrook or John Wall are. Those truly elite, generational type athletes. And he doesn’t need to be.
Clarkson should be getting Kobes shot attempts. Kobe won’t let that happen. Aside from B Scott, Kobe is the biggest thing holding the young guys back right now. He is just attrocious, it’s frustrating. Those two knuckleheads are the definition of a bottleneck.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:57am #1026729
Magic JordanParticipantI agree with pretty much everything you said. I think people confuse Russells top speed with the pace that he plays at. For those that actually watch the games, when he needs to he shows plenty of burst. I do think he holds back which I will agree is weird.
He’s never going to be the athlete that Marcus Smart (wink), Westbrook or John Wall are. Those truly elite, generational type athletes. And he doesn’t need to be.
Clarkson should be getting Kobes shot attempts. Kobe won’t let that happen. Aside from B Scott, Kobe is the biggest thing holding the young guys back right now. He is just attrocious, it’s frustrating. Those two knuckleheads are the definition of a bottleneck.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:50am #1026881
daggers818ParticipantMagic Jordan – that is gospel. Thank you.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 7:50am #1026747
daggers818ParticipantMagic Jordan – that is gospel. Thank you.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 4:46pm #1026868
MopgrassParticipantYep. I know, you’re the other reasonable Laker fan on here.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 4:46pm #1027003
MopgrassParticipantYep. I know, you’re the other reasonable Laker fan on here.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 9:28pm #1026783
MopgrassParticipantHe actually has looked way better the last 3 or 4 games. He’s even getting to the rack a little. I’ve even seen the guy run at a decent clip. I feel like he chooses not to run fast (which is weird… perhaps he’s secretly average speed). He’s still not completely running the offense, so he doesn’t turn the ball over much, but he also doesn’t get assists. However, had he not gone out of that last game with an injury, he might have had a triple double. At this point, I’m no longer concerned. Better pick than Okafor? We’ll see.
Side note: at the end of all games, the Lakers should always put the ball in Clarkson’s hands. He’s the only one who can always get off a shot and make it consistently. He should be asked to score more.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 11:09pm #1026659
festar35ParticipantHonestly I don’t think he is an All-Star talent unless finds the perfect fit like Teague in Atl but I think he is still a very good player and can fit a role like Teague/Dragic who can offer consistency without having to do too much.
I see this draft in tiers with #1 Okafor, Porzingis, Towns #2 Mudiay, Turner, Johnson #3 Winslow, Russell fits in here.
1 is those franchise guys, 2 is likely All-Stars and 3 those fringe All-Stars who are close but not quite there, this isn’t a knock who have guys like Monta Ellis who never made ASG but other still great players
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 11:09pm #1026793
festar35ParticipantHonestly I don’t think he is an All-Star talent unless finds the perfect fit like Teague in Atl but I think he is still a very good player and can fit a role like Teague/Dragic who can offer consistency without having to do too much.
I see this draft in tiers with #1 Okafor, Porzingis, Towns #2 Mudiay, Turner, Johnson #3 Winslow, Russell fits in here.
1 is those franchise guys, 2 is likely All-Stars and 3 those fringe All-Stars who are close but not quite there, this isn’t a knock who have guys like Monta Ellis who never made ASG but other still great players
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 11:55pm #1026661
Ahkasi ClayParticipantIf Russell had not been picked before Okafor, and had not been picked by the Evil Lakers, nobody would be saying he is a bust, just developing slow.
give the kid a chance even if he has not shown much up to this point,
the Lakers are clearly tanking hard hoping to save their draft pick, let him play.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/23/2015 - 11:55pm #1026795
Ahkasi ClayParticipantIf Russell had not been picked before Okafor, and had not been picked by the Evil Lakers, nobody would be saying he is a bust, just developing slow.
give the kid a chance even if he has not shown much up to this point,
the Lakers are clearly tanking hard hoping to save their draft pick, let him play.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:14am #1026667
JDB12ParticipantI’m not convinced he is 2nd overall worthy, but I think he will show a lot of improvement throughout the season. Some people just need more time to develop, adjust to the speed, and I’m not sure that the pressure of playing with Kobe is helping him too much.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:14am #1026801
JDB12ParticipantI’m not convinced he is 2nd overall worthy, but I think he will show a lot of improvement throughout the season. Some people just need more time to develop, adjust to the speed, and I’m not sure that the pressure of playing with Kobe is helping him too much.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 2:06am #1026673
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantHe looks much more comfortable and plays much more fluidly when Kobe is not in the game, but you could say that for a lot of Lakers at this point.
His outside shooting looks better and he is even adjusting more to the speed of the game in the past 5 games or so. His legs looked completely dead at the beginning of the year. He is getting in the paint more and is already adept from mid-range. The pairing of him and Clarkson hasn’t been as smooth as I’d hoped but I still believe it can work. I just hope they get rid of Scott soon. He just isn’t the right coach for this team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 2:06am #1026807
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantHe looks much more comfortable and plays much more fluidly when Kobe is not in the game, but you could say that for a lot of Lakers at this point.
His outside shooting looks better and he is even adjusting more to the speed of the game in the past 5 games or so. His legs looked completely dead at the beginning of the year. He is getting in the paint more and is already adept from mid-range. The pairing of him and Clarkson hasn’t been as smooth as I’d hoped but I still believe it can work. I just hope they get rid of Scott soon. He just isn’t the right coach for this team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 4:53am #1026823
mgreener_34ParticipantI have faith in Russle, and have been impressed with his so far in his short NBA career. I don’t follow Ohio St. so I never had the chance to watch him until this year, so I didn’t know what to expect, and I think that helps me see him with unbiased goggles.
As a prospect, I like what I see.
- He has good size, and knows how to use it, posting a 15% defensive rebounding rate (which is on par with guards like Westbrook, Rajon Rondo, and Ricky Rubio)
- Has shown to be a good passer, having a 19% assist percentage
- Good inside and good midrange game shooting a ridiculous 50% from 16 ft>3 and an insane 63% from 3 feet and in.
- Shown the ability to hit the 3pnt shot
I think he’s stuggling to play in an iso heavy offense with multiple ball-dominant players, and that he’s also not that great at playing SG so far in his career, and that as a 19 year old kid his defense is terrible because he’s being asked to guard guys bigger, stronger, and smarter than him at the SG position. I think his biggest flaws are that he is having difficulty in the 3 to 16 ft range, and this is because he’s not breakig his man down, and like every rookie to ever play in the nba, hasn’t adjusted to the big men in the middle yet.
All of these things will improve over time, and the stregths he has shown are great things to have in a combo guard. While I dont know about the #2 pick, I think he’s an awesome prospect to have. I see him right now as the same level of prospect as Chauncey Billups, and think that his rookie year and Billups are extremely similar, and expect the same kind of progression from Russle, and expect him to put up a solid 17-6-6 on 45-38-80 shooting like Billips was able to do on a consistent basis.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 4:53am #1026689
mgreener_34ParticipantI have faith in Russle, and have been impressed with his so far in his short NBA career. I don’t follow Ohio St. so I never had the chance to watch him until this year, so I didn’t know what to expect, and I think that helps me see him with unbiased goggles.
As a prospect, I like what I see.
- He has good size, and knows how to use it, posting a 15% defensive rebounding rate (which is on par with guards like Westbrook, Rajon Rondo, and Ricky Rubio)
- Has shown to be a good passer, having a 19% assist percentage
- Good inside and good midrange game shooting a ridiculous 50% from 16 ft>3 and an insane 63% from 3 feet and in.
- Shown the ability to hit the 3pnt shot
I think he’s stuggling to play in an iso heavy offense with multiple ball-dominant players, and that he’s also not that great at playing SG so far in his career, and that as a 19 year old kid his defense is terrible because he’s being asked to guard guys bigger, stronger, and smarter than him at the SG position. I think his biggest flaws are that he is having difficulty in the 3 to 16 ft range, and this is because he’s not breakig his man down, and like every rookie to ever play in the nba, hasn’t adjusted to the big men in the middle yet.
All of these things will improve over time, and the stregths he has shown are great things to have in a combo guard. While I dont know about the #2 pick, I think he’s an awesome prospect to have. I see him right now as the same level of prospect as Chauncey Billups, and think that his rookie year and Billups are extremely similar, and expect the same kind of progression from Russle, and expect him to put up a solid 17-6-6 on 45-38-80 shooting like Billips was able to do on a consistent basis.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:07am #1026829
JordoParticipantEven if and when he does get over his rookie woes, I’ll likely still feel like Okafor is the one they should have taken. You have a chance to nab a kid with big man skills well passed his age and you passed? Hopefully Russell proves everybody wrong but so far it’s not looked great. Still only ONE month into the season though. Wait and see
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 5:07am #1026695
JordoParticipantEven if and when he does get over his rookie woes, I’ll likely still feel like Okafor is the one they should have taken. You have a chance to nab a kid with big man skills well passed his age and you passed? Hopefully Russell proves everybody wrong but so far it’s not looked great. Still only ONE month into the season though. Wait and see
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:34am #1026845
markfitz14ParticipantThe PG spot takes so much more time to learn than the other positions. He has to be the quarter back out there. No shame in a rookie PG being sat in the 4th quarter early in his career. He needs a year to adjust. Should she an uptick in his game in the second half of this year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:34am #1026711
markfitz14ParticipantThe PG spot takes so much more time to learn than the other positions. He has to be the quarter back out there. No shame in a rookie PG being sat in the 4th quarter early in his career. He needs a year to adjust. Should she an uptick in his game in the second half of this year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 9:14am #1026921
NBADNABYLMFirst of all B. Scott is a development style coach. he has developed the likes of; Chris Paul, Kyrie Erving, and also put Jason Kidd on another level, and he’s also done a really good job developing Jordan Clarkson and is only 13 games into the 15/16 season. With that said Russell hasn’t played great but he is getting better and more comfortable with playing in the NBA, Byron Scott is teaching Russell while letting him learn from his mistakes and that doesn’t only go for Russell but Randle, Clarkson, Nance jr. by making them work hard and earn minutes that teaches them to compete and play hard at all times even in practice so Byron Scott is a perfect coach for this young Lakers Team and a even better coach for a young point guard.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 9:14am #1026786
NBADNABYLMFirst of all B. Scott is a development style coach. he has developed the likes of; Chris Paul, Kyrie Erving, and also put Jason Kidd on another level, and he’s also done a really good job developing Jordan Clarkson and is only 13 games into the 15/16 season. With that said Russell hasn’t played great but he is getting better and more comfortable with playing in the NBA, Byron Scott is teaching Russell while letting him learn from his mistakes and that doesn’t only go for Russell but Randle, Clarkson, Nance jr. by making them work hard and earn minutes that teaches them to compete and play hard at all times even in practice so Byron Scott is a perfect coach for this young Lakers Team and a even better coach for a young point guard.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:56am #1026949
Magic JordanParticipantNo, just no.
CP3 and Irving and Kidd would have developed with or without Scott.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 10:56am #1026814
Magic JordanParticipantNo, just no.
CP3 and Irving and Kidd would have developed with or without Scott.
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- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:53pm #1026832
NBADNABYLMI said he put kidd on another level not developed him read carefully
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 12:53pm #1026967
NBADNABYLMI said he put kidd on another level not developed him read carefully
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 2:39pm #1026854
Meditated StatesParticipantHe will get his shot in order by seasons end. He will not be a great PG because just like Smart he does not have the handle or explosiveness to get by guys often. His jumper will be his key to penetrating. He will not ever be a good defender.
0- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:36pm #1026884
mgreener_34ParticipantKevin Durant, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler. Those three stars all had absolutely horrific handles their first 2-3 years in the league, and all 3 of them worked extremely hard, and now all have good handles which allow them to do/go anywhere they want on the court. I see no reason why Russle can’t improve his handle, he’s only 19!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 6:36pm #1027018
mgreener_34ParticipantKevin Durant, Paul George, and Jimmy Butler. Those three stars all had absolutely horrific handles their first 2-3 years in the league, and all 3 of them worked extremely hard, and now all have good handles which allow them to do/go anywhere they want on the court. I see no reason why Russle can’t improve his handle, he’s only 19!
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- Posted on: Tue, 11/24/2015 - 2:39pm #1026988
Meditated StatesParticipantHe will get his shot in order by seasons end. He will not be a great PG because just like Smart he does not have the handle or explosiveness to get by guys often. His jumper will be his key to penetrating. He will not ever be a good defender.
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