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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 9:41am #61795

ZachAttackParticipantAs much as I hate doing this, I’m talking up the Boston Celtics. I’m just sitting back thinking how good they could be next year. I know this thread will go all T-Rex Crazy. But if Brooklyn sucks as bad as they are right now, all season? That’s a top 3 pick for the freaking Celtics! Who needs the Olynyk Effect when you could have Ben Simmons. Then you also get like 3 other first round picks, including at least one more that’s likely in the lottery. That’s amazing for Celtics fans! I as a Jazz fan am jealous of the success you guys will have very soon. I mean, Ben Simmons on that roster, in a couple of years they’ll be title contenders again.
Alright, I’ve said what I want to… Go ahead T Rex.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 9:55am #1022516

SlickBouncePassParticipanthe is always one step ahead of other NBA GMs.
go to the real GM and see the amount of picks they have stacked up.
I will say this, the 76ers are brighter.
I’ll take Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric, Stauskas, and one other (not banking on two because I think the $hit$how Lakers will end up in the bottom 3), over
Marcus Smart, Kelly Olynik, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Isiaah Thomas, Sullinger, Young, etc.
I think the Sixers have more pieces and their cap space will allow them to have better veteran role players than the Celtics do right now.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 9:55am #1022378

SlickBouncePassParticipanthe is always one step ahead of other NBA GMs.
go to the real GM and see the amount of picks they have stacked up.
I will say this, the 76ers are brighter.
I’ll take Okafor, Noel, Embiid, Saric, Stauskas, and one other (not banking on two because I think the $hit$how Lakers will end up in the bottom 3), over
Marcus Smart, Kelly Olynik, Avery Bradley, Evan Turner, Isiaah Thomas, Sullinger, Young, etc.
I think the Sixers have more pieces and their cap space will allow them to have better veteran role players than the Celtics do right now.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:27pm #1022479
NBAjunkie81Participantwhich means stockpiling 1st round Draft Picks… while other GM’s have been thinking short term…
Phila has looked worse but that’s b/c they started from below ground after the Bynum trade just decimated their Franchise… Whereas Boston did a controlled deconstruction from a championship team that won 56 games only 4 years ago (2011) – but they have been building the Exact same way…
It looks like Boston & Phila will Both have 4 – FOUR – 1st round picks in June 2016 & it appears that 2 of those will be Lottery picks for each team… It’s scary to think that Phila already has Noel & Okafor ripping teams apart & I’m already reading that Embiid’s surgery went great & Saric will be here next fall…
Both these teams look Scary & I have to say it’s exciting to think that we could see the Classic Phila vs Boston Rivalry from the 80s revisited in the 2020’s…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:27pm #1022617
NBAjunkie81Participantwhich means stockpiling 1st round Draft Picks… while other GM’s have been thinking short term…
Phila has looked worse but that’s b/c they started from below ground after the Bynum trade just decimated their Franchise… Whereas Boston did a controlled deconstruction from a championship team that won 56 games only 4 years ago (2011) – but they have been building the Exact same way…
It looks like Boston & Phila will Both have 4 – FOUR – 1st round picks in June 2016 & it appears that 2 of those will be Lottery picks for each team… It’s scary to think that Phila already has Noel & Okafor ripping teams apart & I’m already reading that Embiid’s surgery went great & Saric will be here next fall…
Both these teams look Scary & I have to say it’s exciting to think that we could see the Classic Phila vs Boston Rivalry from the 80s revisited in the 2020’s…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 2:15pm #1022517
treytalkssports.comParticipantThe problem is that no one wants to stay, because they are building a losing, me-first culture. Talent-wise, I agree, but more than talent is in play in that decision.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 2:15pm #1022656
treytalkssports.comParticipantThe problem is that no one wants to stay, because they are building a losing, me-first culture. Talent-wise, I agree, but more than talent is in play in that decision.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:02am #1022524
Rip256Ive been saying this for 3 years and gotten at least 100negs but maybe someone will believe me now.
Simmons is going to be the best player in the NBA.
Whoever wins the next draft is set. Plain and simple.
No way the NBA lets Simmons go to a small market.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:02am #1022386
Rip256Ive been saying this for 3 years and gotten at least 100negs but maybe someone will believe me now.
Simmons is going to be the best player in the NBA.
Whoever wins the next draft is set. Plain and simple.
No way the NBA lets Simmons go to a small market.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:05am #1022528

ZachAttackParticipantThe NBA probably would let him go to a small market team. I mean, more money for them right? Just imagine if he went to a team like… Denver, or Portland or something. Ticket sales would SHOOT through the roof. Especially since there’s nothing else to do in that area.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:05am #1022390

ZachAttackParticipantThe NBA probably would let him go to a small market team. I mean, more money for them right? Just imagine if he went to a team like… Denver, or Portland or something. Ticket sales would SHOOT through the roof. Especially since there’s nothing else to do in that area.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:24am #1022551
Rip256Ive accepted Simmons goes to the Lakers, Celtics or Knicks.
The whole league benefits because they share the revenue.
Its just too much money involved and it wont even look rigged.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:24am #1022412
Rip256Ive accepted Simmons goes to the Lakers, Celtics or Knicks.
The whole league benefits because they share the revenue.
Its just too much money involved and it wont even look rigged.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:08am #1022533

ExumInfernoParticipantSo the Celtics are not good, it is just that the Nets are bad and have three years of handing over picks to the Celtics, maybe that is the story. A Dallas pick soon, a Memphis pick in the future, they do have picks. Ten second round picks in the next five years too, so they will be busy.
If NBA rosters were 25 to 30 people, the Celtics would be in good shape. But they need to find a way to consolidate, their current roster is full of even players and that doesn’t work. If they are to add, possibly, three first round picks next season then they need to really make some deals soon, to create room.
The picks from other teams and their young players on the roster are all assets, but right now there are not enough minutes to go around and unless they can make a blockbuster, three for one type, of trade then they are going to have some problems.
The Celtics do need a small forward and a center, preferably one to score inside and block shots, and it would seem that the draft will have those players where the Nets(to Celtics) and Celtics are to pick.
Someone needs to come up with some trades, Boston gets one player one a big contract while the other team gets three or four or five players. It doesn’t look like there is a realistic trade out there for them, at the moment.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:08am #1022394

ExumInfernoParticipantSo the Celtics are not good, it is just that the Nets are bad and have three years of handing over picks to the Celtics, maybe that is the story. A Dallas pick soon, a Memphis pick in the future, they do have picks. Ten second round picks in the next five years too, so they will be busy.
If NBA rosters were 25 to 30 people, the Celtics would be in good shape. But they need to find a way to consolidate, their current roster is full of even players and that doesn’t work. If they are to add, possibly, three first round picks next season then they need to really make some deals soon, to create room.
The picks from other teams and their young players on the roster are all assets, but right now there are not enough minutes to go around and unless they can make a blockbuster, three for one type, of trade then they are going to have some problems.
The Celtics do need a small forward and a center, preferably one to score inside and block shots, and it would seem that the draft will have those players where the Nets(to Celtics) and Celtics are to pick.
Someone needs to come up with some trades, Boston gets one player one a big contract while the other team gets three or four or five players. It doesn’t look like there is a realistic trade out there for them, at the moment.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:13am #1022535

BleedGreen808ParticipantThe Brooklyn trade continues to look better. If Brooklyn can’t improve over the next three years Boston should be getting a top pick in 2016-18. Pierce, KG, and Jason Terry were all well past their primes and it’s amazing we got three unprotected 1st rounders and the right to swap 1st rounders in 2017.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:13am #1022396

BleedGreen808ParticipantThe Brooklyn trade continues to look better. If Brooklyn can’t improve over the next three years Boston should be getting a top pick in 2016-18. Pierce, KG, and Jason Terry were all well past their primes and it’s amazing we got three unprotected 1st rounders and the right to swap 1st rounders in 2017.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:15am #1022541
T RexWow, I was expecting a pile on, and not the kind magicjordan or whatever knows all about in LA.
The long term is looking great, but we’re really in a temporary state of disarray right now.
Of course it’s temporary, but as you can imagine I’m pretty embarrassed, having hyped up the Celtics this year and predicted them finishing first in the East.
It appears Stevens doesn’t quite trusts Rozier yet, though he did get 6 minutes last night. And now Jordan Mickey is in DLeague, even though he might be our best defensive power forward.
The David Lee as starter experiment is finally over, but it cost us perhaps two losses, as did not having either IT4 or Rozier in the starting lineup. One of those guys needs to be in the game at all times, and it’s probably not going to be the case and the losses will continue to pile up a bit.
Also, the team is just shooting like crap, and the irregular rotations and lineups and minutes probably have a lot to do with that, but this team needs to be firing on all cylinders to win games. I just figured they would.
Oh well, even if the whole season goes like this, which it won’t, that just means our 3rd or 4th first rounder will be better than 20-something like I figured.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:15am #1022402
T RexWow, I was expecting a pile on, and not the kind magicjordan or whatever knows all about in LA.
The long term is looking great, but we’re really in a temporary state of disarray right now.
Of course it’s temporary, but as you can imagine I’m pretty embarrassed, having hyped up the Celtics this year and predicted them finishing first in the East.
It appears Stevens doesn’t quite trusts Rozier yet, though he did get 6 minutes last night. And now Jordan Mickey is in DLeague, even though he might be our best defensive power forward.
The David Lee as starter experiment is finally over, but it cost us perhaps two losses, as did not having either IT4 or Rozier in the starting lineup. One of those guys needs to be in the game at all times, and it’s probably not going to be the case and the losses will continue to pile up a bit.
Also, the team is just shooting like crap, and the irregular rotations and lineups and minutes probably have a lot to do with that, but this team needs to be firing on all cylinders to win games. I just figured they would.
Oh well, even if the whole season goes like this, which it won’t, that just means our 3rd or 4th first rounder will be better than 20-something like I figured.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:26am #1022573
Magic JordanParticipantMan, I used to be one of your only defenders. Now all I do is respond to your trolling of me. What the hell gives he who trolls hard?
I was going to give it a few more games before I made you eat humble pie, and pointed out who mightily you overrated your Celtics but someone beat me to it.
I don’t believe these first four games will be reflective of their entire season, but even if only for a few days I was quite excited to troll you for a change.
They still should be able to secure a 7 or 8 seed. Mostly due to their amazing coach. However the talent on that team is sorely lacking. The pieces just don’t fit. Sure a team with a bunch of 3rd options is nice in theory. But when you have IT firing away… and a bunch of undersized 2 guards playing out of position I think these early struggles were to be expected.
I still think once Rozier and Hunter get some more burn this team will become elite. They have Westbrook lite and Klay Thompson lite burning a hole in their bench. They even sent young Serge Ibaka to the D league because they are too stacked.
Marcus Smart is having a very Harden like impact on the offensive end, by the end of the year I could even see him perhaps pushing for a scoring title. Aside from the immense impact on the offensive end, he still looks to be the favorite for DPOY which speaks a ton to the overall basketball skill he has. Generational talent truly.
Ultimately I think their saving grace will be when Danny finally admits his current roster as contructed is missing a few pieces. He will wisely make a play for Andrew Harrison and Dakari Johnson to round out the roster.
Those editions should secure the Celtics close to 65 wins me thinks. You know after the All Star break last year they were undefeated. Outscoring opponents by 24.7 ppg. Some great RPM all around.
Have we ever seen the overwhelming favorite to win the Championship (Celtics), win and also get a top 3 pick the following year courtesy of the Nets? I think that might be a first since the 80s. I am pretty sure the Lakers and the Celtics both experienced similar luck back then.
This Celtics team is the deepest in the league, and they also have RPM all stars at every position. Despite the slow start I still expect between 65-70 wins easy.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:26am #1022434
Magic JordanParticipantMan, I used to be one of your only defenders. Now all I do is respond to your trolling of me. What the hell gives he who trolls hard?
I was going to give it a few more games before I made you eat humble pie, and pointed out who mightily you overrated your Celtics but someone beat me to it.
I don’t believe these first four games will be reflective of their entire season, but even if only for a few days I was quite excited to troll you for a change.
They still should be able to secure a 7 or 8 seed. Mostly due to their amazing coach. However the talent on that team is sorely lacking. The pieces just don’t fit. Sure a team with a bunch of 3rd options is nice in theory. But when you have IT firing away… and a bunch of undersized 2 guards playing out of position I think these early struggles were to be expected.
I still think once Rozier and Hunter get some more burn this team will become elite. They have Westbrook lite and Klay Thompson lite burning a hole in their bench. They even sent young Serge Ibaka to the D league because they are too stacked.
Marcus Smart is having a very Harden like impact on the offensive end, by the end of the year I could even see him perhaps pushing for a scoring title. Aside from the immense impact on the offensive end, he still looks to be the favorite for DPOY which speaks a ton to the overall basketball skill he has. Generational talent truly.
Ultimately I think their saving grace will be when Danny finally admits his current roster as contructed is missing a few pieces. He will wisely make a play for Andrew Harrison and Dakari Johnson to round out the roster.
Those editions should secure the Celtics close to 65 wins me thinks. You know after the All Star break last year they were undefeated. Outscoring opponents by 24.7 ppg. Some great RPM all around.
Have we ever seen the overwhelming favorite to win the Championship (Celtics), win and also get a top 3 pick the following year courtesy of the Nets? I think that might be a first since the 80s. I am pretty sure the Lakers and the Celtics both experienced similar luck back then.
This Celtics team is the deepest in the league, and they also have RPM all stars at every position. Despite the slow start I still expect between 65-70 wins easy.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:17am #1022543
T RexCeltics have the Mavs’ first rounder, top 7 protected, and it looks like we’ll get it, somewhere between pick 10-14 perhaps.
And we have the Wolves’ first rounder as well, top 12 protected. Outside chance of us getting that with the way Towns and Rubio have started out, and with BJelica off the bench.
Then we have the 76ers 2nd round pick, which is basically a borderline first rounder, in addition to our own first and the Nets’ unprotected first.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:17am #1022404
T RexCeltics have the Mavs’ first rounder, top 7 protected, and it looks like we’ll get it, somewhere between pick 10-14 perhaps.
And we have the Wolves’ first rounder as well, top 12 protected. Outside chance of us getting that with the way Towns and Rubio have started out, and with BJelica off the bench.
Then we have the 76ers 2nd round pick, which is basically a borderline first rounder, in addition to our own first and the Nets’ unprotected first.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:38pm #1022481
NBAjunkie81Participantprotected – & transferred to a 2nd rounder in 2016… It kind of makes some of Phila’s moves understandable when you realize that context… Of course that is never reported….
The Bynum trade wrecked Phila’s Franchise – losing Igudola, Vucevick, Harkless & their 2017 First round pick…. But the trade w/ Boston giving them Phila’s 2015 First round pick for Arnotte Moultry was a close second… Doug Collins destroyed that Franchise & then just ran away…
Phila has recovered Both those picks & a bunch more…. It’s incredible that the shrewd moves that they have completed – in the face of whithering criticsm have resulted in them acquiring Okafor who looks like a Legit star already & a bunch more 1st round picks…..
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:38pm #1022619
NBAjunkie81Participantprotected – & transferred to a 2nd rounder in 2016… It kind of makes some of Phila’s moves understandable when you realize that context… Of course that is never reported….
The Bynum trade wrecked Phila’s Franchise – losing Igudola, Vucevick, Harkless & their 2017 First round pick…. But the trade w/ Boston giving them Phila’s 2015 First round pick for Arnotte Moultry was a close second… Doug Collins destroyed that Franchise & then just ran away…
Phila has recovered Both those picks & a bunch more…. It’s incredible that the shrewd moves that they have completed – in the face of whithering criticsm have resulted in them acquiring Okafor who looks like a Legit star already & a bunch more 1st round picks…..
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:18am #1022545
T RexDanny is making Celtics fans and Mormons very proud.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:18am #1022406
T RexDanny is making Celtics fans and Mormons very proud.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 3:42pm #1022552

ZachAttackParticipantidk if you’re talking about me. And I don’t wanna start a conversation about Mormons. But I’m not one of them, just so you know.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 3:42pm #1022692

ZachAttackParticipantidk if you’re talking about me. And I don’t wanna start a conversation about Mormons. But I’m not one of them, just so you know.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:18am #1022547
Rip256I dont think the Nets finish with a bottom 5 record.
Simply because they have no reason to lose in the tank-battles. Theyll get out-tanked.
Pencil in wins against the 76ers, lakers, twolves, denver and whoever else stands to gain by leapfrogging them in the draft order.
If I was to guess, the Nets pick will be in the 5-6 range.
But…only lady luck can determine who wins the lottery of course.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:18am #1022408
Rip256I dont think the Nets finish with a bottom 5 record.
Simply because they have no reason to lose in the tank-battles. Theyll get out-tanked.
Pencil in wins against the 76ers, lakers, twolves, denver and whoever else stands to gain by leapfrogging them in the draft order.
If I was to guess, the Nets pick will be in the 5-6 range.
But…only lady luck can determine who wins the lottery of course.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:20am #1022549
T RexThat Chinese dude Zhou Qi looks like a Porzingis clone. Defensive ninja.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:20am #1022410
T RexThat Chinese dude Zhou Qi looks like a Porzingis clone. Defensive ninja.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:06pm #1022472
Rip256Is Thon Maker actually eligible, given hes an international player?
Dude just dropped 37 against legit opposition. Hes your Porzingas clone with an Admiral genetic mutation.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:06pm #1022611
Rip256Is Thon Maker actually eligible, given hes an international player?
Dude just dropped 37 against legit opposition. Hes your Porzingas clone with an Admiral genetic mutation.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:27am #1022553

RUDEBOY_Participantthe celtics do have nice collection of players and have a good chance of making the playoffs this yr..but nobody on their roster ranks among the top 12 or 15 players at their position.getting a top3 pick next yr will be great for marketing and hopefully gives them a go 2 player.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:27am #1022414

RUDEBOY_Participantthe celtics do have nice collection of players and have a good chance of making the playoffs this yr..but nobody on their roster ranks among the top 12 or 15 players at their position.getting a top3 pick next yr will be great for marketing and hopefully gives them a go 2 player.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:36am #1022557
T RexAccording to Real Plus Minus the Celtics had like 3-4 top 12-15 players at their positions last year, but they all saw a lot of minutes together which boosted them all. This season Stevens is trying every combo EXCEPT Smart(12th pg in RPM)/IT(21st pg)/Olynyk(6th center in RPM)/Jerebko(14th PF).
That combo closed out a lot of close wins last year, and this year Stevens is going with guys like Sully and Lee in the fourth quarter.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 10:36am #1022418
T RexAccording to Real Plus Minus the Celtics had like 3-4 top 12-15 players at their positions last year, but they all saw a lot of minutes together which boosted them all. This season Stevens is trying every combo EXCEPT Smart(12th pg in RPM)/IT(21st pg)/Olynyk(6th center in RPM)/Jerebko(14th PF).
That combo closed out a lot of close wins last year, and this year Stevens is going with guys like Sully and Lee in the fourth quarter.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:25pm #1022599
markfitz14ParticipantIts also about the eye test. And this team has middle of the road talent. The team has some interesting players but they are just trade bait. I think Ainge has the plan to try to find elite talent eventually. He just didn’t take the tank route like 76ers. Kept the team interesting while showcasing players to hopefully be able to trade them.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:25pm #1022460
markfitz14ParticipantIts also about the eye test. And this team has middle of the road talent. The team has some interesting players but they are just trade bait. I think Ainge has the plan to try to find elite talent eventually. He just didn’t take the tank route like 76ers. Kept the team interesting while showcasing players to hopefully be able to trade them.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:52am #1022581
markfitz14ParticipantThe haul of picks the Celtics has is amazing and I hope they keep the picks and develop these guys. If a trade comes to frution for a stud the Celtics have what ever they would want. Expiring contracts Lee and Turner. Draft picks or young talent.
The team did have to high expectations for this year though. They over achived slightly last year. They could either just miss the playoffs or just make it. They are not jelling very well in the early going. Could end up at 2016 draft being a top 5 pick top 10(there own) and top 14(Dallas).
I dont know if this would be possibile but I would like to see them trade The Celtics Pick and the Dallas pick for a top 7 pick. They need to find a way to get better talent somehow while also cutting the amount of players they want to play on the roster. They can’t keep trying to play everybody on the roster for 25 minutes. Or even trade current players for future picks. Just make some room to actually develop the young talent.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:52am #1022442
markfitz14ParticipantThe haul of picks the Celtics has is amazing and I hope they keep the picks and develop these guys. If a trade comes to frution for a stud the Celtics have what ever they would want. Expiring contracts Lee and Turner. Draft picks or young talent.
The team did have to high expectations for this year though. They over achived slightly last year. They could either just miss the playoffs or just make it. They are not jelling very well in the early going. Could end up at 2016 draft being a top 5 pick top 10(there own) and top 14(Dallas).
I dont know if this would be possibile but I would like to see them trade The Celtics Pick and the Dallas pick for a top 7 pick. They need to find a way to get better talent somehow while also cutting the amount of players they want to play on the roster. They can’t keep trying to play everybody on the roster for 25 minutes. Or even trade current players for future picks. Just make some room to actually develop the young talent.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:59am #1022585
JoacoddrParticipantIn my opinion the Nets picks is going to be between the range of 5-9. I think lakers, sixers, nuggets and blazzers have more chances of winning the lottery as three of those teams are in the Western Conference. Maybe Ainge will be able to use two or three picks (Dallas, Celtics and Brooklyn) to climb up to get the top pick
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 11:59am #1022446
JoacoddrParticipantIn my opinion the Nets picks is going to be between the range of 5-9. I think lakers, sixers, nuggets and blazzers have more chances of winning the lottery as three of those teams are in the Western Conference. Maybe Ainge will be able to use two or three picks (Dallas, Celtics and Brooklyn) to climb up to get the top pick
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:18pm #1022595
markfitz14ParticipantSo say it falls Sixers, Lakers, Nuggets, Nets, Blazers, Wolves, Magic, Hornets, Celtics……..Dallas @14.
Would any of those teams trade Simmons for Ingram, Ivan Rabb and Kriss Dunn?
Or if the nets do actually put some wins together trade the 7th, 13th and 14th pick or somewhere around these. Would any of those teams trade those 3 picks for Ingram?
Based on last year teams not wanting to do it for Winslow I dont see any GM pulling the trigger on those two scenarios. Granted I hope they can move up. When is the last time a team moved up? I can’t even remember.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:18pm #1022456
markfitz14ParticipantSo say it falls Sixers, Lakers, Nuggets, Nets, Blazers, Wolves, Magic, Hornets, Celtics……..Dallas @14.
Would any of those teams trade Simmons for Ingram, Ivan Rabb and Kriss Dunn?
Or if the nets do actually put some wins together trade the 7th, 13th and 14th pick or somewhere around these. Would any of those teams trade those 3 picks for Ingram?
Based on last year teams not wanting to do it for Winslow I dont see any GM pulling the trigger on those two scenarios. Granted I hope they can move up. When is the last time a team moved up? I can’t even remember.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:19pm #1022476
Rip256The #1 pick this season is damn near untouchable regarding trades.
Newsflash…Simmons isnt Wiggins or Exum. Hes in a different coversation. Wtf is he forced to go to College. Dude would average Lebron rookie numbers if he played in the NBA this season. His College stats will be 23/12/7 with plenty of blocks and steals.
Ive been watching him since he played Junior International Tournaments and scouts didnt have a clue who he was.
Ive legit never seen him lose a game except final of FIBA. And Ive never seen him have a bad game.
Hes a rich mans Chris Webber and the next MVP.
In the NBA, his best season will be:
28ppg
11rpg
8apg – Legit bigman best passer I’ve ever seen since Magic
1.8spg
1.4bpg
55%fg
35% 3pt
77% ft
Imagine that on your fantasy squad.
Say what you want now…ive already made half of you look stupid…hes a future firstballot HOFer
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:19pm #1022615
Rip256The #1 pick this season is damn near untouchable regarding trades.
Newsflash…Simmons isnt Wiggins or Exum. Hes in a different coversation. Wtf is he forced to go to College. Dude would average Lebron rookie numbers if he played in the NBA this season. His College stats will be 23/12/7 with plenty of blocks and steals.
Ive been watching him since he played Junior International Tournaments and scouts didnt have a clue who he was.
Ive legit never seen him lose a game except final of FIBA. And Ive never seen him have a bad game.
Hes a rich mans Chris Webber and the next MVP.
In the NBA, his best season will be:
28ppg
11rpg
8apg – Legit bigman best passer I’ve ever seen since Magic
1.8spg
1.4bpg
55%fg
35% 3pt
77% ft
Imagine that on your fantasy squad.
Say what you want now…ive already made half of you look stupid…hes a future firstballot HOFer
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:14pm #1022591

Bankroll PJParticipantIf Memphis has a disappointing year, I think the Celtics should trade a few of their frontcourt players and maybe a pick or two, although not the Brooklyn one, and go after Marc Gasol. If they landed Marc Gasol and Ben Simmons from the Brooklyn pick, I think they would immediately be a top 4 team in the east.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 12:14pm #1022452

Bankroll PJParticipantIf Memphis has a disappointing year, I think the Celtics should trade a few of their frontcourt players and maybe a pick or two, although not the Brooklyn one, and go after Marc Gasol. If they landed Marc Gasol and Ben Simmons from the Brooklyn pick, I think they would immediately be a top 4 team in the east.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:58pm #1022498

HitsterParticipantThe Celtics are still in rebuild but having the Nets pick in 2016, 2018 and right to swap in 2017 is potentially huge. Even if the Celtics don’t make the play offs they should be stronger than Brooklyn and could possibly have another 5 top 10 picks in the next few years.
Ainge has other 3 first round picks due on top of those mentioned above in the next few years. They also own a load of 2nd round picks too including 76ers 2nd round pick next year which will effectively be almost a late first rounder. Add in a decent roster of role players and expiring deals that Ainge has mainly assembled and he has loads of trade pieces if he ever wants to make a swoop. He also has potentially a lot of cap space if needed next summer to make a big move or two.
As regards the above post by Rip256, Magic may have been 6ft 9ins but he was a PG, he wasn’t like a frontcourter who was also an excellent passer such as Hakeem.
0- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 2:25pm #1022523
Rip256Simmons = Magic in size, passing and ball handling. Call them both whatever position you want.Either way the ball’s gonna be in their hands as much as possible.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 2:25pm #1022662
Rip256Simmons = Magic in size, passing and ball handling. Call them both whatever position you want.Either way the ball’s gonna be in their hands as much as possible.
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- Posted on: Thu, 11/05/2015 - 1:58pm #1022637

HitsterParticipantThe Celtics are still in rebuild but having the Nets pick in 2016, 2018 and right to swap in 2017 is potentially huge. Even if the Celtics don’t make the play offs they should be stronger than Brooklyn and could possibly have another 5 top 10 picks in the next few years.
Ainge has other 3 first round picks due on top of those mentioned above in the next few years. They also own a load of 2nd round picks too including 76ers 2nd round pick next year which will effectively be almost a late first rounder. Add in a decent roster of role players and expiring deals that Ainge has mainly assembled and he has loads of trade pieces if he ever wants to make a swoop. He also has potentially a lot of cap space if needed next summer to make a big move or two.
As regards the above post by Rip256, Magic may have been 6ft 9ins but he was a PG, he wasn’t like a frontcourter who was also an excellent passer such as Hakeem.
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