Damian Lillard

 I like Lillard. The only person I’ve ever heard call him a chucker was T Rex.

 I like Lillard. The only person I’ve ever heard call him a chucker was T Rex.

 I’d take Lillard over Wall any day of the week. Portland will probably not have a great record this year, but I think Lillard goes ape$hit and finishes top 5 in scoring.

 I’d take Lillard over Wall any day of the week. Portland will probably not have a great record this year, but I think Lillard goes ape$hit and finishes top 5 in scoring.

 I looked up his true shooting % from his rookie year, trying to put Smart’s 49.2% true shooting performance into context. Lillard’s true shooting % his rookie year was an awesome 54% or something, so that’s impressive.

Aldridge and Matthews didn’t seem to like playing with him, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Batum was also discontented and traded as a result. Robin Lopez also left. Sometimes when everybody walks away there’s a reason, and sometimes that reason is a gunner point guard who puts himself above the team.

I’m skeptical that he’s a natural leader, and I think his early success went straight to his head. Now he’s part of that stupid All Assist Starting 5 or whatever with CP3 and John Stockton, as if Lillard is some great passer. I seem to recall Lillard and his little posse getting all aggressive and douchey with Portland fans when they would take his picture or something, when he was a rookie no less. Of course, his PR people at Adidas and State Farm now have polished his image as a good guy, but I’m not sure I buy it.

Not every point guard is a leader or makes their team better, or even cares about that stuff. Lillard as a dimunitive scorer that the public can relate to because of his size will always have lucrative sponsorship deals as long as he’s getting his stats.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who was/is a terrible leader who didn’t make anybody better but himself until LeBron and Love showed up and made him look good.

Isaiah Thomas is just now learning how to spread the ball around to get his teammates going, so maybe Lillard will learn how to balance scoring and passing, and be well enough liked by his teammates that they don’t want to leave at their first opportunity.

Part of the reason Curry’s Warriors are so successful is because he has the full respect and support of his teammates, who trust that he’s putting the team first even when he shoots a ton. It takes a special person at point guard to get that kind of support and respect from their teammates, and there’s plenty of warning signs with Lillard that he might not be that kind of guy, at least yet.

Same goes for Reggie Jackson and a lot of other guys with dubius priorities.

Even Chris Paul has real limitations as a leader, and like Irving, he has admitted as much.

Rondo was exposed as being a crap leader after the big 3 left, and Lillard’s going to face a major leadership test this year. Assuming he’ll pass that test might be foolhardy until he actually proves it. Especially since everybody who could leave his team did this past summer.

DRose is another weak leader who puts himself above the team, like chucking 20 something shots with one good eye the other night, or talking about how he’s focused on free agency in 2017 at media day, while his teammates are sitting next to him just shaking their heads with contempt.

 I looked up his true shooting % from his rookie year, trying to put Smart’s 49.2% true shooting performance into context. Lillard’s true shooting % his rookie year was an awesome 54% or something, so that’s impressive.

Aldridge and Matthews didn’t seem to like playing with him, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Batum was also discontented and traded as a result. Robin Lopez also left. Sometimes when everybody walks away there’s a reason, and sometimes that reason is a gunner point guard who puts himself above the team.

I’m skeptical that he’s a natural leader, and I think his early success went straight to his head. Now he’s part of that stupid All Assist Starting 5 or whatever with CP3 and John Stockton, as if Lillard is some great passer. I seem to recall Lillard and his little posse getting all aggressive and douchey with Portland fans when they would take his picture or something, when he was a rookie no less. Of course, his PR people at Adidas and State Farm now have polished his image as a good guy, but I’m not sure I buy it.

Not every point guard is a leader or makes their team better, or even cares about that stuff. Lillard as a dimunitive scorer that the public can relate to because of his size will always have lucrative sponsorship deals as long as he’s getting his stats.

Same goes for Kyrie Irving, who was/is a terrible leader who didn’t make anybody better but himself until LeBron and Love showed up and made him look good.

Isaiah Thomas is just now learning how to spread the ball around to get his teammates going, so maybe Lillard will learn how to balance scoring and passing, and be well enough liked by his teammates that they don’t want to leave at their first opportunity.

Part of the reason Curry’s Warriors are so successful is because he has the full respect and support of his teammates, who trust that he’s putting the team first even when he shoots a ton. It takes a special person at point guard to get that kind of support and respect from their teammates, and there’s plenty of warning signs with Lillard that he might not be that kind of guy, at least yet.

Same goes for Reggie Jackson and a lot of other guys with dubius priorities.

Even Chris Paul has real limitations as a leader, and like Irving, he has admitted as much.

Rondo was exposed as being a crap leader after the big 3 left, and Lillard’s going to face a major leadership test this year. Assuming he’ll pass that test might be foolhardy until he actually proves it. Especially since everybody who could leave his team did this past summer.

DRose is another weak leader who puts himself above the team, like chucking 20 something shots with one good eye the other night, or talking about how he’s focused on free agency in 2017 at media day, while his teammates are sitting next to him just shaking their heads with contempt.

I also seem to recall Aldridge and Matthews tweeting something about their teammates not working hard, and they might have been talking about Lillard. Looking at his defense, it’s hard to believe he’s giving max effort, or even much effort, on that side of the court.

John Wall gives great effort on defense, and that’s a form of leadership by example that Lillard or Rose don’t bring. Neither does Rondo, or Irving before LeBron. 

I also seem to recall Aldridge and Matthews tweeting something about their teammates not working hard, and they might have been talking about Lillard. Looking at his defense, it’s hard to believe he’s giving max effort, or even much effort, on that side of the court.

John Wall gives great effort on defense, and that’s a form of leadership by example that Lillard or Rose don’t bring. Neither does Rondo, or Irving before LeBron. 

dam!! t rex ,i havent seen anyone ever post as on here as much as u do…dude you must have this site on speed dial? lol

dam!! t rex ,i havent seen anyone ever post as on here as much as u do…dude you must have this site on speed dial? lol

 If you go strickly on "who’s the better scorer" then Damien Lillard is better. John Wall is clearly the better player and I will also go with Kyrie Irving. Kyrie Irving is a better defender than Damien Lillard and that’s saying something because Kyrie Irving is an below average defender. Damien Lillard is a pretty much a below average passer given the talent around him his whole career and the fact that he only average around 5-6 assist per game.

What exactly makes Damien Lillard better than Wall. This is pretty much the John Wall / Kyrie Irving debate. People look at who’s the better scorer and the better shooter and that’s it. They don’t go by who’s better passer, rebounder, defender, finisher, leader, and being able to carry his own team. And last time I checked John Wall litterally outplay him every time they go head to head. 

LOL. By saying "he can’t shoot, so I can’t have him ahead because you can’t win a championship with a point guard that can’t shoot". If that’s the freakin’ case then drop Russell Westbrook because Damian Lillard is a better shooter than Russell Westbrook, put Kyrie Irving ahead of Russell Westbrook because OMG Russell Westbrook cannot shoot the ball. You just looked at one season and decided that "you must be able to shoot to win the championship". That one of the most idiotic comments of all time because the best point guard in the history in the NBA couldn’t shoot.

This is one of the most idiotic threads on why someone is better I have ever seen. Skip if someone is actually the better player, but go with the guy that have a jumpshot to win a championship. LOL. If that was the case then a lot of point guards will be ahead of John Wall and Russell Westbrook. 

 If you go strickly on "who’s the better scorer" then Damien Lillard is better. John Wall is clearly the better player and I will also go with Kyrie Irving. Kyrie Irving is a better defender than Damien Lillard and that’s saying something because Kyrie Irving is an below average defender. Damien Lillard is a pretty much a below average passer given the talent around him his whole career and the fact that he only average around 5-6 assist per game.

What exactly makes Damien Lillard better than Wall. This is pretty much the John Wall / Kyrie Irving debate. People look at who’s the better scorer and the better shooter and that’s it. They don’t go by who’s better passer, rebounder, defender, finisher, leader, and being able to carry his own team. And last time I checked John Wall litterally outplay him every time they go head to head. 

LOL. By saying "he can’t shoot, so I can’t have him ahead because you can’t win a championship with a point guard that can’t shoot". If that’s the freakin’ case then drop Russell Westbrook because Damian Lillard is a better shooter than Russell Westbrook, put Kyrie Irving ahead of Russell Westbrook because OMG Russell Westbrook cannot shoot the ball. You just looked at one season and decided that "you must be able to shoot to win the championship". That one of the most idiotic comments of all time because the best point guard in the history in the NBA couldn’t shoot.

This is one of the most idiotic threads on why someone is better I have ever seen. Skip if someone is actually the better player, but go with the guy that have a jumpshot to win a championship. LOL. If that was the case then a lot of point guards will be ahead of John Wall and Russell Westbrook. 

 "You’ll have a hard time winning a championship if your point guard can’t shoot"

Tony Parker and Magic Johnson seemed to do alright without outside shots. Rajon Rondo isn’t handing his ring back to the league any time soon. 

 "You’ll have a hard time winning a championship if your point guard can’t shoot"

Tony Parker and Magic Johnson seemed to do alright without outside shots. Rajon Rondo isn’t handing his ring back to the league any time soon. 

 Most teams that Rebuild wait till the Cupboard is Completely empty – but Portland has a Whole group of 25 or under Blue Chip prospects & Damian Lillard is the MOST important of them all b/c he is already a star

Portland is the most snake bitten Franchise of the first decade of the 2000’s – getting Branden Roy & LaMarcus Aldridge in 2006 & the Greg Oden in 2007 looked like a future Dynasty but poor health wrecked their chances…

C.J. McCollum, Allen Crabbe, Pat Connaughton, Noah Vonleh, Myers Leonard & Maurice Harkless are all nice young players 20 to 24 years old… 

 Most teams that Rebuild wait till the Cupboard is Completely empty – but Portland has a Whole group of 25 or under Blue Chip prospects & Damian Lillard is the MOST important of them all b/c he is already a star

Portland is the most snake bitten Franchise of the first decade of the 2000’s – getting Branden Roy & LaMarcus Aldridge in 2006 & the Greg Oden in 2007 looked like a future Dynasty but poor health wrecked their chances…

C.J. McCollum, Allen Crabbe, Pat Connaughton, Noah Vonleh, Myers Leonard & Maurice Harkless are all nice young players 20 to 24 years old… 

 I like Lillard — always have, he’s a big time talent. A chucker doesn’t necessarily mean you shoot bad percentages, it just means you have a tendency to shoot bad shots, or a tendency to shoot before thinking about doing anything else with the ball imo.

I do think Wall is better than Dame, but that’s cause he creates a lot more for his teammates and he is a solid floor general. Without LMA we’ll see just exactly what Lillard is made of, but I was impressed with the leadership he showed by getting everyone into camp 1-2 months early, and the trip to San Diego with the team that he orchestrated. That type of shit can only help..

 I like Lillard — always have, he’s a big time talent. A chucker doesn’t necessarily mean you shoot bad percentages, it just means you have a tendency to shoot bad shots, or a tendency to shoot before thinking about doing anything else with the ball imo.

I do think Wall is better than Dame, but that’s cause he creates a lot more for his teammates and he is a solid floor general. Without LMA we’ll see just exactly what Lillard is made of, but I was impressed with the leadership he showed by getting everyone into camp 1-2 months early, and the trip to San Diego with the team that he orchestrated. That type of shit can only help..