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- Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 7:32pm #61692
AdamJCallejaParticipantWho are some guys who aren’t as athletic as they’re labeled as?
& who are some guys that are much more athletic than people give them credit for.
Overrated: Kelly Oubre – Once labeled as a top shelf athlete, but just doesn’t make athletic plays in the game. He’s super stiff, doesn’t get much lift and gets knocked off balance so easily. He’s just not the athlete he was labeled as coming out of high school.
Underrated: Draymond Green – Once labeled as ‘not athletic enough’ to survive in this league, he is much more athletic than given credit for. Doesn’t get much lift off two feet but has really quick feet, decent speed in transition and has dunked on a few guys off of one foot.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 8:02pm #1019751
SkalAndJamalParticipantOverrated Hollis-jefferson
underrated : Norman powell
0- Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 10:51pm #1019913
drose24ParticipantHow is Norman Powell’s athleticism underrated when that is one of the biggest parts of his game ?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 10:51pm #1019771
drose24ParticipantHow is Norman Powell’s athleticism underrated when that is one of the biggest parts of his game ?
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 4:28am #1019942
SkalAndJamalParticipantWhen you talk about the best athletes in this draft class, his name rarely comes up….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 4:28am #1019800
SkalAndJamalParticipantWhen you talk about the best athletes in this draft class, his name rarely comes up….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 4:39am #1019946
SkalAndJamalParticipant - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 4:39am #1019804
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 8:02pm #1019893
SkalAndJamalParticipantOverrated Hollis-jefferson
underrated : Norman powell
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 9:11pm #1019757
HeroescantdieParticipantOverrated: Mudiay = He’s compared to John Wall due to his inability to hit outside shots and playstyle and more often athleticism. Although he did have a good preseason, I don’t see John Wall’s level of athleticism, in terms of speed and change of direction and verticality, I think Mudiay’s speed is more close to Jrue Holiday.
Underrated: = Demar Derozan. To be compared to Vince carter Athlecticism is a huge pressure to live up to. I’m not saying he’s not athletic. He’s athleticism is elite but not on the same leve as freaks like VC and Gerald Green. Also Giannis, I hear people say he’s so athletic. For me his long and not that athletic. His athleticism is his length.
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 2:55am #1019937
DukeDaSquadParticipantIt seems like your underrated list is saying why the players are overrated athletes…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 2:55am #1019794
DukeDaSquadParticipantIt seems like your underrated list is saying why the players are overrated athletes…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/24/2015 - 6:23am #1019985
whiteflashParticipantMudiay is a bigger Ray Felton to me. Supremely overrated athletic ability.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/24/2015 - 6:23am #1020127
whiteflashParticipantMudiay is a bigger Ray Felton to me. Supremely overrated athletic ability.
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- Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 9:11pm #1019899
HeroescantdieParticipantOverrated: Mudiay = He’s compared to John Wall due to his inability to hit outside shots and playstyle and more often athleticism. Although he did have a good preseason, I don’t see John Wall’s level of athleticism, in terms of speed and change of direction and verticality, I think Mudiay’s speed is more close to Jrue Holiday.
Underrated: = Demar Derozan. To be compared to Vince carter Athlecticism is a huge pressure to live up to. I’m not saying he’s not athletic. He’s athleticism is elite but not on the same leve as freaks like VC and Gerald Green. Also Giannis, I hear people say he’s so athletic. For me his long and not that athletic. His athleticism is his length.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 11:10pm #1019915
Rip256Underrated – Dwight Howard – Everyone hates him so much that they dont wanna acknowledge his athleticism.
Overated – Julius Randle…Ive heard myths of explosiveness yet never seen it with my own eyes
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/22/2015 - 11:10pm #1019773
Rip256Underrated – Dwight Howard – Everyone hates him so much that they dont wanna acknowledge his athleticism.
Overated – Julius Randle…Ive heard myths of explosiveness yet never seen it with my own eyes
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 2:54am #1019935
DukeDaSquadParticipantDwight has won some dunk Contests so any casual fan knows of his athleticism. Its been the main part of his game for his career.
Randle has about average or slightly above average vertical explosion for his size but I think the main part of his explosiveness is his end to end speed and acceleration
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 2:54am #1019792
DukeDaSquadParticipantDwight has won some dunk Contests so any casual fan knows of his athleticism. Its been the main part of his game for his career.
Randle has about average or slightly above average vertical explosion for his size but I think the main part of his explosiveness is his end to end speed and acceleration
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 5:51am #1019960
XYRYXParticipantDwight is nowhere mehr the athlete he once was when he did the Superman dunk and other stuff. The last 2 years he lost a major part of his explosiveness to me and it all started with his back problems. I actually think his decline in this category is one of the biggest we have seen recently. He was a 10 out of 10 in this category and now he is still strong and physically gifted but if we talk explosiveness I can’t think of someone who lost as much of this in the last couple of years who is still relatively young.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 5:51am #1019818
XYRYXParticipantDwight is nowhere mehr the athlete he once was when he did the Superman dunk and other stuff. The last 2 years he lost a major part of his explosiveness to me and it all started with his back problems. I actually think his decline in this category is one of the biggest we have seen recently. He was a 10 out of 10 in this category and now he is still strong and physically gifted but if we talk explosiveness I can’t think of someone who lost as much of this in the last couple of years who is still relatively young.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:26am #1019966
T RexRandle has awesome below the rim athleticism. He might not get very high, but his first four inches of vert are very explosive.
At least that’s what Lakers fans keep telling me, lol.
D’Angelo Russell is another one. He might not ever dunk in an NBA game, but you just have to trust the process. The process that led to Chad Ford tweeting that Russell has a 40 inch vert, lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:26am #1019824
T RexRandle has awesome below the rim athleticism. He might not get very high, but his first four inches of vert are very explosive.
At least that’s what Lakers fans keep telling me, lol.
D’Angelo Russell is another one. He might not ever dunk in an NBA game, but you just have to trust the process. The process that led to Chad Ford tweeting that Russell has a 40 inch vert, lol.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:28am #1019968
T RexPorzingis is a very underrated athlete.
The pre-draft hype-artists yakking about WCS being able to guard all five positions never looked across the ocean at Porzingis, who can do the same things at 7’3".
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:28am #1019826
T RexPorzingis is a very underrated athlete.
The pre-draft hype-artists yakking about WCS being able to guard all five positions never looked across the ocean at Porzingis, who can do the same things at 7’3".
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:26am #1019996
SkalAndJamalParticipantDavid Lee and Olynyk for Porzingis, would you do it.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:26am #1019854
SkalAndJamalParticipantDavid Lee and Olynyk for Porzingis, would you do it.
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:51am #1020004
T RexWith much sadness, I would do it.
Porzingis is already close to Rudy Gobert level defensively, and he can shoot over anybody.
I’ve always hated Phil Jackson, but he’s done a damn good job this summer.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:51am #1019862
T RexWith much sadness, I would do it.
Porzingis is already close to Rudy Gobert level defensively, and he can shoot over anybody.
I’ve always hated Phil Jackson, but he’s done a damn good job this summer.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:30am #1019970
SkalAndJamalParticipantAll I know is the best athlete in the 2015 draft class is currently injured, Michael Qualls! If OKC could have gotten him healthy… Holy smokes lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:30am #1019828
SkalAndJamalParticipantAll I know is the best athlete in the 2015 draft class is currently injured, Michael Qualls! If OKC could have gotten him healthy… Holy smokes lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:58am #1019976
Memphis MadnessParticipantLeBron might be overrated as an athlete at this point. He is still a really good, above average athlete, but he is not ELITE. He can’t go over the top as easily as he once did.
Everybody loses it. Vince Carter and even Kobe are slipping, too.
Maybe LeBron was just worn down in the Finals, but he looks like he has lost half a step from his prime.
Haven’t seen him this season, but they limited his minutes and sat him out of a few games. His preseason stats weren’t too great anyway.
Still, in terms of actual NBA mileage, LeBron is one of the best ever. Probably better than Jordan was in terms of X number of games/minutes into a career. And, LeBron never took a year off from basketball (he barely takes the SUMMER off).
Jon Leuer is an underrated athlete. Pretty good hops even though he looks robotic. Good floor runner, but more of a finesse guy.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 6:58am #1019834
Memphis MadnessParticipantLeBron might be overrated as an athlete at this point. He is still a really good, above average athlete, but he is not ELITE. He can’t go over the top as easily as he once did.
Everybody loses it. Vince Carter and even Kobe are slipping, too.
Maybe LeBron was just worn down in the Finals, but he looks like he has lost half a step from his prime.
Haven’t seen him this season, but they limited his minutes and sat him out of a few games. His preseason stats weren’t too great anyway.
Still, in terms of actual NBA mileage, LeBron is one of the best ever. Probably better than Jordan was in terms of X number of games/minutes into a career. And, LeBron never took a year off from basketball (he barely takes the SUMMER off).
Jon Leuer is an underrated athlete. Pretty good hops even though he looks robotic. Good floor runner, but more of a finesse guy.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 8:31am #1019990
NJHooper95ParticipantLebron is a very overrated athlete and has been for sometime now. The media hypes up every little move but his first couple of steps at very slow and his elevation has declined.
Underrated athlete Jared Cunningham. Was a highlight film at Orgeon State, a lot of springs and good defender
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 8:31am #1019848
NJHooper95ParticipantLebron is a very overrated athlete and has been for sometime now. The media hypes up every little move but his first couple of steps at very slow and his elevation has declined.
Underrated athlete Jared Cunningham. Was a highlight film at Orgeon State, a lot of springs and good defender
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 8:50am #1019994
T RexStrength is usually underrated and ignored in the athleticism equation. That’s how guys like LeBron and Smart get underrated, and guys like LaVine and Wiggins get overrated.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 8:50am #1019852
T RexStrength is usually underrated and ignored in the athleticism equation. That’s how guys like LeBron and Smart get underrated, and guys like LaVine and Wiggins get overrated.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:32am #1020000
DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64Lebron is still an outstanding athlete!!!!!!!!! he just paces himself more these days!!!!!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 9:32am #1019858
DrivingDownTheStreetinmy64Lebron is still an outstanding athlete!!!!!!!!! he just paces himself more these days!!!!!!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 1:19pm #1020044
tuck243ParticipantIt was just long… Athletically LeBron still has that vert and strength… I never seen LeBron beat people with his first step, ever…
I personally think Harrison Barnes athleticism is overrated. We’re told about his vert and how much of an athlete he is, but he never uses it. The dunk contest was a prime example. (Dante Exum is another one that’s overrated).
Underrated? IDK really… I think a lot of guys sleep on Melo’s quickness. I think he’s one of the quickest players at his position (if not the quickest)… I think KD underrated athletically. People think because he’s tall and long that he doesn’t have a vert, but sometimes his head is above the rim when dunking. Which in my opinion is how you truly test in game vert, some players just have long arms (ala Cliff Alexander and Shabazz Muhammed.)
For the record there are different forms of athleticism. It’s not just quickness, vert, AND speed. It could be one or a combination of them…
Russell Westbrook has all… Derrick Rose has all… John Wall does…
LeBron has everything, but quickness…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 1:19pm #1019902
tuck243ParticipantIt was just long… Athletically LeBron still has that vert and strength… I never seen LeBron beat people with his first step, ever…
I personally think Harrison Barnes athleticism is overrated. We’re told about his vert and how much of an athlete he is, but he never uses it. The dunk contest was a prime example. (Dante Exum is another one that’s overrated).
Underrated? IDK really… I think a lot of guys sleep on Melo’s quickness. I think he’s one of the quickest players at his position (if not the quickest)… I think KD underrated athletically. People think because he’s tall and long that he doesn’t have a vert, but sometimes his head is above the rim when dunking. Which in my opinion is how you truly test in game vert, some players just have long arms (ala Cliff Alexander and Shabazz Muhammed.)
For the record there are different forms of athleticism. It’s not just quickness, vert, AND speed. It could be one or a combination of them…
Russell Westbrook has all… Derrick Rose has all… John Wall does…
LeBron has everything, but quickness…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 5:07pm #1019932
HeroescantdieParticipantOverrated: Mudiay = He’s compared to John Wall due to his inability to hit outside shots and playstyle and more often athleticism. Although he did have a good preseason, I don’t see John Wall’s level of athleticism, in terms of speed and change of direction and verticality, I think Mudiay’s speed is more close to Jrue Holiday.
Demar Derozan. To be compared to Vince carter Athlecticism is a huge pressure to live up to. I’m not saying he’s not athletic. He’s athleticism is elite but not on the same leve as freaks like VC and Gerald Green. Also Giannis, I hear people say he’s so athletic. For me his long and not that athletic. His athleticism is his length.
Underrated: = Brandoy Roy, Cause I hear before that he is unathletic, well i’m saying in terms of verticality he is athletic, he is a sneaky athlete, he recorded 40 inch vert at the combine
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/23/2015 - 5:07pm #1020074
HeroescantdieParticipantOverrated: Mudiay = He’s compared to John Wall due to his inability to hit outside shots and playstyle and more often athleticism. Although he did have a good preseason, I don’t see John Wall’s level of athleticism, in terms of speed and change of direction and verticality, I think Mudiay’s speed is more close to Jrue Holiday.
Demar Derozan. To be compared to Vince carter Athlecticism is a huge pressure to live up to. I’m not saying he’s not athletic. He’s athleticism is elite but not on the same leve as freaks like VC and Gerald Green. Also Giannis, I hear people say he’s so athletic. For me his long and not that athletic. His athleticism is his length.
Underrated: = Brandoy Roy, Cause I hear before that he is unathletic, well i’m saying in terms of verticality he is athletic, he is a sneaky athlete, he recorded 40 inch vert at the combine
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