Way too early final four prediction

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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 10:09am #61317

SkalAndJamal
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Kentucky, California, Texas, Louisville. Yours?
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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 11:36am #1010223

ChicagoCasey
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Califonia, North Carolina, Maryland, and Gonzaga
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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 11:36am #1010085

ChicagoCasey
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Califonia, North Carolina, Maryland, and Gonzaga
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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 12:47pm #1010239

Rip255
Wouldnt say way too early.
North Carolina, Kentucky, Cal, LSU
I like your Louisville prediction tho. Under the radar freshman class.

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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 12:47pm #1010101

Rip255
Wouldnt say way too early.
North Carolina, Kentucky, Cal, LSU
I like your Louisville prediction tho. Under the radar freshman class.

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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 3:54pm #1010253

ncballer
UNC, LSU, Maryland and Gonzaga
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Posted on: Fri, 08/28/2015 - 3:54pm #1010115

ncballer
UNC, LSU, Maryland and Gonzaga
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 5:11am #1010297

Illadelph
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I am calling it right now. I was about to say that it’s gonna be an ACC final 4 but I keep forgetting that the Terps are not in the ACC anylmore lol.

1. Carolina – Best experience/talent of any college team team this year.
2. Maryland – Diamond Stone and last year’s guys make Terps contenders.
3. Gonzaga – Dark horse team sort of. Could be Wiltjer’s body finally caught up with him.
4. Kentucky – Most talented of the 4 teams but lost 7 players last year. One and done heavy team

My overall champion pick: Kentucky.

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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 5:11am #1010158

Illadelph
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I am calling it right now. I was about to say that it’s gonna be an ACC final 4 but I keep forgetting that the Terps are not in the ACC anylmore lol.

1. Carolina – Best experience/talent of any college team team this year.
2. Maryland – Diamond Stone and last year’s guys make Terps contenders.
3. Gonzaga – Dark horse team sort of. Could be Wiltjer’s body finally caught up with him.
4. Kentucky – Most talented of the 4 teams but lost 7 players last year. One and done heavy team

My overall champion pick: Kentucky.

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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:46am #1010313
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  I personally think UNC is overrated. They need that elite facilitating PG, and Paige, although great scoring PG, does not fit. They need that Felton, Marshall, Lawson type of passer.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:46am #1010174
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  I personally think UNC is overrated. They need that elite facilitating PG, and Paige, although great scoring PG, does not fit. They need that Felton, Marshall, Lawson type of passer.
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  - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 1:19pm #1010202
    
    ncballer
    Joel Berry was lookin very good at the PG spot towards the end of the season. In fact had Roy not taken him out with 5 minutes to go of the Wisky game they would have been on their way to meet Arizona in the elite 8. UNC has a ton of balance as Meeks, Johnson, Paige, Jackson and even Hicks are all subject to go off for 20 any night. I think Berry makes the jump to earn jp tokoto’s starting spot.
    I am curious as to your inclusion of Louisville in your final four. I have a man crush on Donavon Mitchell’s game but I don’t think he has enough fire power around him to replace Rozier, Blackshear and Harrel’s production. They will struggle to score. IMHO it’s gonna be a rough long year for them.
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    - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 2:57pm #1010206
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      I can see berry being the key but I just haven’t seen enough of a sample size to be confident in him.
      Strength is in the wings. PG spot is pretty taken care of. Pitino gets his guys to rebound.
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    - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 2:57pm #1010345
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      I can see berry being the key but I just haven’t seen enough of a sample size to be confident in him.
      Strength is in the wings. PG spot is pretty taken care of. Pitino gets his guys to rebound.
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  - Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 1:19pm #1010341
    
    ncballer
    Joel Berry was lookin very good at the PG spot towards the end of the season. In fact had Roy not taken him out with 5 minutes to go of the Wisky game they would have been on their way to meet Arizona in the elite 8. UNC has a ton of balance as Meeks, Johnson, Paige, Jackson and even Hicks are all subject to go off for 20 any night. I think Berry makes the jump to earn jp tokoto’s starting spot.
    I am curious as to your inclusion of Louisville in your final four. I have a man crush on Donavon Mitchell’s game but I don’t think he has enough fire power around him to replace Rozier, Blackshear and Harrel’s production. They will struggle to score. IMHO it’s gonna be a rough long year for them.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 5:32am #1010307

ph90702
Gonzaga won’t make the final four. Their backcourt was decimated by graduation, and college basketball is a guard’s game.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 5:32am #1010168

ph90702
Gonzaga won’t make the final four. Their backcourt was decimated by graduation, and college basketball is a guard’s game.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:47am #1010176
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Perfectly said. Few is going to need some time.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:47am #1010315
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Perfectly said. Few is going to need some time.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 6:08am #1010309

MorseWill
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UNC, KU, ISU, Maryland
Couple sleepers with a couple favorites… Would at least be an entertaining weekend
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 6:08am #1010170

MorseWill
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UNC, KU, ISU, Maryland
Couple sleepers with a couple favorites… Would at least be an entertaining weekend
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:13am #1010264
  
  Illadelph
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  I don’t think Kansas will be that good this year. At least by Kansas standards which are pretty high.
  Diallo might not get cleared to play and if he doesn’t I don’t see a whole lot of improvement in the lineup from last year. Carlton Bragg is good, but he is not as talented as a Wiggins, or an Oubre. And just look at last year with Cliff Alexander… without a dominating post-presence, the guards and the SF will get played hard and the team will be playing a lot of transition defense after not getting very many ORBs…
  I always like Kansas, and I like Bill Self, but he doesn’t know how to get the most out of his five star talent. He is a tweener coach in that he recruits one and dones, and gets a lot of them, but then coaches real old-school style. One of these days he will truly embrace the one and done mentality and Kansas will be much more competitive.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:13am #1010403
  
  Illadelph
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  I don’t think Kansas will be that good this year. At least by Kansas standards which are pretty high.
  Diallo might not get cleared to play and if he doesn’t I don’t see a whole lot of improvement in the lineup from last year. Carlton Bragg is good, but he is not as talented as a Wiggins, or an Oubre. And just look at last year with Cliff Alexander… without a dominating post-presence, the guards and the SF will get played hard and the team will be playing a lot of transition defense after not getting very many ORBs…
  I always like Kansas, and I like Bill Self, but he doesn’t know how to get the most out of his five star talent. He is a tweener coach in that he recruits one and dones, and gets a lot of them, but then coaches real old-school style. One of these days he will truly embrace the one and done mentality and Kansas will be much more competitive.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:04am #1010178

NickWayne87
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What does Wichita State got to do to PROVE that they’re an ELITE basketball program and quit getting left off these lists? UNC over them? GTFOOH….

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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:07pm #1010218
  
  Rip255
  Dudes swayed me with his confidence.
  Wichita State probably has cracked top 4 program status.
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:07pm #1010357
  
  Rip255
  Dudes swayed me with his confidence.
  Wichita State probably has cracked top 4 program status.
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:26pm #1010220
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Too many freshmen
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:26pm #1010359
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  Too many freshmen
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:18am #1010266
  
  Illadelph
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  Wichits State is gonna be pretty good this year, but to say that they are better than UNC is silly.
  I loved watching Wichita State have an undefeated season until the tournament 2 years ago. That Wichita – Kentucky game was epic, but I disagree that Wichita State doesn’t get the respect it deserves. They are good, but they don’t play in the uber-competitive ACC, and they don’t have the level of talent and experience that UNC has.
  I love your passion, but objectively UNC is better on all counts. Not by a mile, but by a significant margin.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:18am #1010405
  
  Illadelph
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  Wichits State is gonna be pretty good this year, but to say that they are better than UNC is silly.
  I loved watching Wichita State have an undefeated season until the tournament 2 years ago. That Wichita – Kentucky game was epic, but I disagree that Wichita State doesn’t get the respect it deserves. They are good, but they don’t play in the uber-competitive ACC, and they don’t have the level of talent and experience that UNC has.
  I love your passion, but objectively UNC is better on all counts. Not by a mile, but by a significant margin.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 9:04am #1010317

NickWayne87
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What does Wichita State got to do to PROVE that they’re an ELITE basketball program and quit getting left off these lists? UNC over them? GTFOOH….

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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 11:17am #1010186

JordanC20
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Kentucky
Purdue
Notre Dame
UNLV

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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:28pm #1010222
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  UNLV? Don’t drink the cool-aid man, I made that mistake last year.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:39am #1010288
    
    ph90702
    They were one of the twenty youngest teams in college basketball last year. Four of their five freshmen from last year are back. Rashad Vaughn was a first round draft pick, so you can’t blame him for leaving. They have another very good recruiting class this year, and they have two transfers who are eligible this year. I don’t think they will make the Final Four, but I think they will make the tournament and win at least one game.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:47pm #1010515
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      The pieces fit great, but still it’s Dave Rice running that team. Losing 3 starters, 2 top players, isn’t great for the program either. Just Rice doesn’t know what he is doing.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:47pm #1010376
      
      SkalAndJamal
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      The pieces fit great, but still it’s Dave Rice running that team. Losing 3 starters, 2 top players, isn’t great for the program either. Just Rice doesn’t know what he is doing.
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      - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 3:38pm #1010480
        
        ph90702
        They’re recruiting extremely well. They’ll be fine.
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      - Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 3:38pm #1010619
        
        ph90702
        They’re recruiting extremely well. They’ll be fine.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 8:39am #1010427
    
    ph90702
    They were one of the twenty youngest teams in college basketball last year. Four of their five freshmen from last year are back. Rashad Vaughn was a first round draft pick, so you can’t blame him for leaving. They have another very good recruiting class this year, and they have two transfers who are eligible this year. I don’t think they will make the Final Four, but I think they will make the tournament and win at least one game.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 7:28pm #1010361
  
  SkalAndJamal
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  UNLV? Don’t drink the cool-aid man, I made that mistake last year.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 11:17am #1010325

JordanC20
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Kentucky
Purdue
Notre Dame
UNLV

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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 2:11pm #1010204

NewfieSwish52
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Iowa State Cyclones
Wichita State Shockers
Louisiana State Tigers
Michigan State Spartans
Something like this would be pretty neat to see happen. Three of the teams actually appear to be very good and the fourth has Tom Izzo so its not beyond the realm of possibility.

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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:20am #1010268
  
  Illadelph
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  I love it man. An all "state" team final 4. It could happen. All four of those teams are very good and could make it. That would be a cool story line. Probably no one would watch though if it was between LSU and ISU except for fans of those programs and die-hard college b-ball fans like me. Lol.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 6:20am #1010407
  
  Illadelph
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  I love it man. An all "state" team final 4. It could happen. All four of those teams are very good and could make it. That would be a cool story line. Probably no one would watch though if it was between LSU and ISU except for fans of those programs and die-hard college b-ball fans like me. Lol.
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Posted on: Sat, 08/29/2015 - 2:11pm #1010343

NewfieSwish52
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Iowa State Cyclones
Wichita State Shockers
Louisiana State Tigers
Michigan State Spartans
Something like this would be pretty neat to see happen. Three of the teams actually appear to be very good and the fourth has Tom Izzo so its not beyond the realm of possibility.

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Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 9:26am #1010292

TarHeelRaven
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I agree with ncballer. Joel Berry really came on strong at the end of the season after he came back from his injury. I think he starts at the point for Carolina this year, moving Paige off the ball so he can look to score more, which he does best. I think people forget how good of a high school player he was in Florida. I think he won four state titles. Not every guy comes in and dominates as a freshman. While he probably won’t have a Kendall Marshall, Raymond Felton or Ty Lawson like impact this year, I think he will be very good at the point for the Heels.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 2:41pm #1010451
  
  ncballer
  I think Berry can be a lot like Aaron Miles back in the day for KU. I think he is ready to embrace that role!
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 2:41pm #1010312
  
  ncballer
  I think Berry can be a lot like Aaron Miles back in the day for KU. I think he is ready to embrace that role!
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Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 9:26am #1010431

TarHeelRaven
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I agree with ncballer. Joel Berry really came on strong at the end of the season after he came back from his injury. I think he starts at the point for Carolina this year, moving Paige off the ball so he can look to score more, which he does best. I think people forget how good of a high school player he was in Florida. I think he won four state titles. Not every guy comes in and dominates as a freshman. While he probably won’t have a Kendall Marshall, Raymond Felton or Ty Lawson like impact this year, I think he will be very good at the point for the Heels.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:21am #1010433

NickWayne87
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what Wichita state did to Kansas in the tournament last year and this years UNC team isn’t better than that Kansas team last year and Wichita State returned nearly ALL of it’s key contributors. Yall saw Fred VanVleet run all through Notre Dame in the tournament last year and are yall gonna sit here and tell me that UNC has a better backcourt than Wichita State just because Wichita plays in the MVC? You’re gonna tell me that Marcus streaky paige is a better all around pg than VanVleet? I’m not buying it. You’re gonna tell me that UNC is a better team than Wichita State i’m NOT buying it. If they played a seven game series right now Wichita wins 4-2.
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Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:21am #1010294

NickWayne87
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what Wichita state did to Kansas in the tournament last year and this years UNC team isn’t better than that Kansas team last year and Wichita State returned nearly ALL of it’s key contributors. Yall saw Fred VanVleet run all through Notre Dame in the tournament last year and are yall gonna sit here and tell me that UNC has a better backcourt than Wichita State just because Wichita plays in the MVC? You’re gonna tell me that Marcus streaky paige is a better all around pg than VanVleet? I’m not buying it. You’re gonna tell me that UNC is a better team than Wichita State i’m NOT buying it. If they played a seven game series right now Wichita wins 4-2.
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:54am #1010437
  
  ncballer
  You must be a big JP Tokoto fan? That’s about the only logical explanation behind everything you said?
  Also you realize Paige played on an injured foot he had to have surgery on this summer all last season right?
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- Posted on: Sun, 08/30/2015 - 10:54am #1010298
  
  ncballer
  You must be a big JP Tokoto fan? That’s about the only logical explanation behind everything you said?
  Also you realize Paige played on an injured foot he had to have surgery on this summer all last season right?
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Posted on: Mon, 08/31/2015 - 9:04pm #1010520

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