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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 3:27am #61196

ChicagoCasey
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There’s an interesting league coming together to compete with the NCAA and at first I just looked passed this because that I couldn’t see many basketball players playing in it. Now I’m saying that I could see this league being competitive. They could attract top level D-League players, overseas players that want to play in the U.S, and the top high school NBA prospects.
The D-League players will get paid more money with this league. The overseas players will get paid an attractive contract and will be able to play in the US. High School prospects will be able to get paid in the range of $700,000 – $2.5M.
The league will be based in Las Vegas and all the eight teams will all be in Las Vegas so NBA excutives/scouts/GM’s won’t have to travel all over the place to watch the top prospects in action.
The league plan to have the season starts August 1st and end in sometime in December. When the league is over the D-League players can go straight to the NBA and the High School prospects can go straight to play overseas or just prepare for the NBA draft. I think the timing of the league is great because nothing basketball related is in August and it will be the main focus for hoop heads, the league will be aired over the internet and they will hopefully in the future will like it to be aired on ESPN/Fox Sports 1.
The players will also get some sort education by taking seminars about buisness, being teached by fortune 500 companies. They will have mentor programs for the players by former NBA players and they will be prepared for a post-basketball career.
The NBA GM’s/Executives/Scouts will have more access to the NBA talent than in College Basketball.
The founder of the league been in serious discussion with big names in the 2015 recruiting class and in more in serious discussions with the 2016 recruiting class. In the article 2 top high school players suppose to decide in the next couple weeks. I believe one of prospects that they having major discussions with is Dennis Smith (praised him in the article). I could also see Josh Jackson being a major player that seriously considering his recruitment and calculated decisions he made in the past.

Personally, if I was a top recruit in the Nation I would go this route. They will face qualty competition, better than the NCAA competition. They will get paid lucrative contracts. Play in a great city that lack basketball , without travel. They will be getting mentored by former players that seen it all in the NBA and after the NBA and being able to basically take buisness classes to prepare them for their post-basketball career. And get tons publicity. I don’t see any downside with this plan.
If you want to read the artical here it goes…… http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-pm-semi-pro-team-recruits-high-schoolers/

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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 7:20am #1007160

rope
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Terrible idea. Won’t be financially viable, anyway. Can’t see who the fan base is supposed to be in Vegas.
If HS players are truly in discussions on this, they are risking their college eligibility.

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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:31am #1007176
  
  ChicagoCasey
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  I believe it’s pretty clear that that they might not care about college eligibility because they are one and done prospects.
  They will be funded by private investors
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 10:28am #1007204
    
    rope
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    Of course it is private investors. Did you think I meant it would be public funds? I invest in new businesses adn I really don’t think there is any money to be made here, certainly at the salaries you mention here.
    This site might have a lot of interest in college recruits or one and dones – there just aren’t enough of these guys to float it and, most of all, most fans don’t care. The D League can barely stay afloat at the salaries they pay and heavy subsidies from the NBA.
    The NBA, assuming they are not involved, would make sure they get little or no television exposure.
    I think you are talking about something that lives somewhere between high level AAU ball and the And 1 tour. It is small potatoes..
    Las Vegas is going to be a tough place to host this. To many other options, no built in fan base. (Locals have generally also proven this.)
    It doesn’t matter if the 15 or 16 recruits "might" be a one and done. If they get caught having these dicussions, they are a "done." Since this league won’t happen, they will be stuck with no place to play or heading the the crapshoot that is China.
    Sorry, I still think this is an idea with a super flawed business model. Other leagues in other sports have tried similar things and it always tanks. There is just no market for this.
    
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:12am #1007220
      ChicagoCasey
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      Las Vegas is a great city to host this league. It’s one of the most talked about cities that if an NBA team would relocate, Vegas might be one of the few cities in the short list. Also, Las Vegas has been a great host of the summer league.
      Of cource they don’t have a fan base yet and the d-league does not do well. But, d-league stars won’t attrack viewers, the high school one and done stars will. People come to the summer league and fill up the stadiums for the D’Angelo Russell, Justise Winslow, Jahlil Okafor, Karl-Anthony Towns, Emmanuel Mudiay, and other one and done stars. They don’t come to the arena to see the d-league/overseas players that hopes to make a camp roster
      The NBA does not and would not own the right to "make sure they won’t be televised. The NBA is not on Fox Sports 1 or NBCSports. They can’t make those networks not show it. Plus, if you read the article you would know that most excutives and NBA people love the idea of this league because they won’t have the same restrictions as the NCAA.
      This idea will be more competitve than college. They will play against grown men, top d-league stars, and top american born european stars. That’s more competive than battling college players. So, it’s nothing like AAU/streetball LOL
      They already met with most top players from the past two years of recruiment. So, I would say they are making headway, you must not read the article or what I wrote because Dennis Smith might have met with them as well. And they are getting into the door with all the top prospects. And you must not read it because you would clearly see that the league starts "NEXT AUGUST".
      Finacially won’t be an issue due to the fact that if they get top prospects and succeed they will get more sponsorships, private investors, expansion, and TV money. So, the finance issue you think they will have won’t happen.
      This is much different than what other sports did. The other sports don’t get top level pro prospects that this league plan to get. And you will say that the MiLB get top pro prospects and I would tell that basketball players are more marketable and more people will watch them than baseball players. And they are more known than MLB pro prospects. And if you read the article you would know that this is a perfect buisness pitch. They will get the best non-NBA american players to go up against/play with top NBA one and done prospects, they will be based in one city so NBA teams won’t have to travel everywhere to see top prospects, games will be broadcast live on the internet, they will have successful buisness companys help them learn about buisness, former NBA players mentor them, and being able to make a lot of money as well. To me that’s a great buisness plan.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:12am #1007359
      ChicagoCasey
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      Las Vegas is a great city to host this league. It’s one of the most talked about cities that if an NBA team would relocate, Vegas might be one of the few cities in the short list. Also, Las Vegas has been a great host of the summer league.
      Of cource they don’t have a fan base yet and the d-league does not do well. But, d-league stars won’t attrack viewers, the high school one and done stars will. People come to the summer league and fill up the stadiums for the D’Angelo Russell, Justise Winslow, Jahlil Okafor, Karl-Anthony Towns, Emmanuel Mudiay, and other one and done stars. They don’t come to the arena to see the d-league/overseas players that hopes to make a camp roster
      The NBA does not and would not own the right to "make sure they won’t be televised. The NBA is not on Fox Sports 1 or NBCSports. They can’t make those networks not show it. Plus, if you read the article you would know that most excutives and NBA people love the idea of this league because they won’t have the same restrictions as the NCAA.
      This idea will be more competitve than college. They will play against grown men, top d-league stars, and top american born european stars. That’s more competive than battling college players. So, it’s nothing like AAU/streetball LOL
      They already met with most top players from the past two years of recruiment. So, I would say they are making headway, you must not read the article or what I wrote because Dennis Smith might have met with them as well. And they are getting into the door with all the top prospects. And you must not read it because you would clearly see that the league starts "NEXT AUGUST".
      Finacially won’t be an issue due to the fact that if they get top prospects and succeed they will get more sponsorships, private investors, expansion, and TV money. So, the finance issue you think they will have won’t happen.
      This is much different than what other sports did. The other sports don’t get top level pro prospects that this league plan to get. And you will say that the MiLB get top pro prospects and I would tell that basketball players are more marketable and more people will watch them than baseball players. And they are more known than MLB pro prospects. And if you read the article you would know that this is a perfect buisness pitch. They will get the best non-NBA american players to go up against/play with top NBA one and done prospects, they will be based in one city so NBA teams won’t have to travel everywhere to see top prospects, games will be broadcast live on the internet, they will have successful buisness companys help them learn about buisness, former NBA players mentor them, and being able to make a lot of money as well. To me that’s a great buisness plan.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 10:28am #1007343
    
    rope
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    Of course it is private investors. Did you think I meant it would be public funds? I invest in new businesses adn I really don’t think there is any money to be made here, certainly at the salaries you mention here.
    This site might have a lot of interest in college recruits or one and dones – there just aren’t enough of these guys to float it and, most of all, most fans don’t care. The D League can barely stay afloat at the salaries they pay and heavy subsidies from the NBA.
    The NBA, assuming they are not involved, would make sure they get little or no television exposure.
    I think you are talking about something that lives somewhere between high level AAU ball and the And 1 tour. It is small potatoes..
    Las Vegas is going to be a tough place to host this. To many other options, no built in fan base. (Locals have generally also proven this.)
    It doesn’t matter if the 15 or 16 recruits "might" be a one and done. If they get caught having these dicussions, they are a "done." Since this league won’t happen, they will be stuck with no place to play or heading the the crapshoot that is China.
    Sorry, I still think this is an idea with a super flawed business model. Other leagues in other sports have tried similar things and it always tanks. There is just no market for this.
    
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:31am #1007315
  
  ChicagoCasey
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  I believe it’s pretty clear that that they might not care about college eligibility because they are one and done prospects.
  They will be funded by private investors
  
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 7:20am #1007299

rope
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Terrible idea. Won’t be financially viable, anyway. Can’t see who the fan base is supposed to be in Vegas.
If HS players are truly in discussions on this, they are risking their college eligibility.

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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 8:21am #1007168

Anton123
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I like how the salaries are directly meant to challenge the D-league (the minimum being 50K higher that the D-league maximum). Although, as far as I understand, at the end of the season most players are probably meant to go to the D-league? Competing for players with both the NCAA and d-league seems like a dangerous task, especially with NBA teams investing more in their D-league affiliates.
It would certainly be intriguing for me as a fan, as it will give me something to watch in the basketball-less time.
It is hard to imagine them making much money, but it will probably also cost little to run the league (all the facilities are probably available in Vegas, the salaries are relatively low, no travelling expenses). The main sources of revenue will probably be online subscriptions and advertising.
For me the idea sounds nice because I really dislike the NCAA as an organization. It really seems to me like an almost mandatory institution that exploits basketball players and constantly makes questionable decisions. The rule to sit out a year after a transfer also really makes very little sense from a basketball perspective.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 8:21am #1007307

Anton123
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I like how the salaries are directly meant to challenge the D-league (the minimum being 50K higher that the D-league maximum). Although, as far as I understand, at the end of the season most players are probably meant to go to the D-league? Competing for players with both the NCAA and d-league seems like a dangerous task, especially with NBA teams investing more in their D-league affiliates.
It would certainly be intriguing for me as a fan, as it will give me something to watch in the basketball-less time.
It is hard to imagine them making much money, but it will probably also cost little to run the league (all the facilities are probably available in Vegas, the salaries are relatively low, no travelling expenses). The main sources of revenue will probably be online subscriptions and advertising.
For me the idea sounds nice because I really dislike the NCAA as an organization. It really seems to me like an almost mandatory institution that exploits basketball players and constantly makes questionable decisions. The rule to sit out a year after a transfer also really makes very little sense from a basketball perspective.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:23am #1007174

immortalone23
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Finally someone is doing something about exploiting free labour. They have an actualy business plan. Imagine the NCAA giving out stipends just to keep players.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:23am #1007313

immortalone23
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Finally someone is doing something about exploiting free labour. They have an actualy business plan. Imagine the NCAA giving out stipends just to keep players.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:50am #1007178

llperez
players have always had the option to go get paid, but college is the best way to compete at a level fitting for highshcool graduates where they arent going against grown men and college provides them with way more tv exposure to help market and showcase themsleves. Look how much brandon jennings stock dropped when he went overseas. Mudiay was in the discussion for #1 pick and dropped by going overseas. I dont think highschool kids are going to start skipping college in any great number sacrificing that draft stock to make the immediate dollar. And if this league really does pay well, there will be tons of higher level d-league and overseas guys trying to get in making it that much harder for higschool kids or kidds who just graduated highschool.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007369
  
  ChicagoCasey
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  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007371
  
  ChicagoCasey
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  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007230
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:40am #1007385
    
    llperez
    you are totally overlooking my main point in my post which is that playing against grown men hurts the draft stock of these young 18 and 19 years olds vs going to college and playing guys in the 18-22 age range. Its what kept brandon jennings on the bench while in europe. Also you are the second person to respond to my tv exposure comment saying it doesnt matter. I never said the tv exposure helps/hurts their draft stock. i said the tv exposure helps/hurts their marketability and the fact kids want ot be seen on the the big screen. They dont get that exposure coming off the bench in some small league with games you have to search the web to find, the kids will see kentcuky getting millions of fans and followers and say well i can do that or go play in some league where you have to youtube my games playing in front of maybe a thousand fans. You dont think that matters to them? Obviously if they do make bank, that might change their minds especially those who struggle with academics or come from poverty and want the quick buck now.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:40am #1007246
    
    llperez
    you are totally overlooking my main point in my post which is that playing against grown men hurts the draft stock of these young 18 and 19 years olds vs going to college and playing guys in the 18-22 age range. Its what kept brandon jennings on the bench while in europe. Also you are the second person to respond to my tv exposure comment saying it doesnt matter. I never said the tv exposure helps/hurts their draft stock. i said the tv exposure helps/hurts their marketability and the fact kids want ot be seen on the the big screen. They dont get that exposure coming off the bench in some small league with games you have to search the web to find, the kids will see kentcuky getting millions of fans and followers and say well i can do that or go play in some league where you have to youtube my games playing in front of maybe a thousand fans. You dont think that matters to them? Obviously if they do make bank, that might change their minds especially those who struggle with academics or come from poverty and want the quick buck now.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:56am #1007391
      
      ChicagoCasey
      Participant
      The point is that the players won’t be stuck on the bench if they play in this league, they will be the face of the legaue, that’s why they will get paid much more than others. If you really think about it the players that go to this league draft stock will be better than it would be if they go overseas. Most players draft stock go down because of the fact that overseas coaches don’t want to deal with them and that it’s hard to scout them because they’re playing overseas. It’ll be the best of both worlds by the players getting to play in front of NBA games and they will actually get a chance to play.
      If the league gets up and going TV deals will line up and the players will be on TV. If you read the article the plan is to get it on TV and if they get ot on TV the players will be the main attraction. People will watch the Harry Giles, Malik Monk, Dennis Smith, and Josh Jackson of the world if they go to this league. They won’t be on TV next year, but if they can get top players there’s no doubt that they will be able to get onTV. Plus, they won’t have any competion because they will start in August and end in December. Those are either when no basketball is being played and it’s the dog days in college basketball.
      
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:56am #1007252
      
      ChicagoCasey
      Participant
      The point is that the players won’t be stuck on the bench if they play in this league, they will be the face of the legaue, that’s why they will get paid much more than others. If you really think about it the players that go to this league draft stock will be better than it would be if they go overseas. Most players draft stock go down because of the fact that overseas coaches don’t want to deal with them and that it’s hard to scout them because they’re playing overseas. It’ll be the best of both worlds by the players getting to play in front of NBA games and they will actually get a chance to play.
      If the league gets up and going TV deals will line up and the players will be on TV. If you read the article the plan is to get it on TV and if they get ot on TV the players will be the main attraction. People will watch the Harry Giles, Malik Monk, Dennis Smith, and Josh Jackson of the world if they go to this league. They won’t be on TV next year, but if they can get top players there’s no doubt that they will be able to get onTV. Plus, they won’t have any competion because they will start in August and end in December. Those are either when no basketball is being played and it’s the dog days in college basketball.
      
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 12:04pm #1007393
        
        llperez
        you think highschool kids will be the face of the league when they are playing against grown men who are professional basketball players, many of whom also excelled in highshcool and college already? I can assure you the competition of this proposed professional league where guys get paid well will be much tougher then college. if a kids smart he will realize his best transition as a prospect comes with playing vs other youngsters who are also still growing and developing their bodies and skills.
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 12:04pm #1007254
        
        llperez
        you think highschool kids will be the face of the league when they are playing against grown men who are professional basketball players, many of whom also excelled in highshcool and college already? I can assure you the competition of this proposed professional league where guys get paid well will be much tougher then college. if a kids smart he will realize his best transition as a prospect comes with playing vs other youngsters who are also still growing and developing their bodies and skills.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 12:17pm #1007395
        
        ChicagoCasey
        Participant
        I’m talking about the main focal point to sell to the fans, not the actual teams. If you read what the founder of the league say’s he trying to get kids that have marketablity. Most fans watch because the player not the school and the players that they watch is usually the one and done type of players.
        You making the point to why the one and dones should go play for this league and the key word is "competiton" They will play in a much tougher league, have more time to focus on basketball. get scouted by the NBA w/o much restrictions, getting paid well, learning how to manage their money, taking seminars about buisness, and being mentored by former NBA players.
        
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 12:17pm #1007256
        
        ChicagoCasey
        Participant
        I’m talking about the main focal point to sell to the fans, not the actual teams. If you read what the founder of the league say’s he trying to get kids that have marketablity. Most fans watch because the player not the school and the players that they watch is usually the one and done type of players.
        You making the point to why the one and dones should go play for this league and the key word is "competiton" They will play in a much tougher league, have more time to focus on basketball. get scouted by the NBA w/o much restrictions, getting paid well, learning how to manage their money, taking seminars about buisness, and being mentored by former NBA players.
        
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007232
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007373
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:28am #1007234
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This is differnet than getting paid little going straight to the d-league and getting paid good money playing overseas, it’s a mixure of both. The players will get the best of both worlds by playing in the United States and getting paid a lot more money than they would if they go the d-league route.
  TV market doesn’t really matter now and days when games will be online and when/if the league be successful TV deals will be lining up to show there games.
  Mudiay didn’t drop because he went to China. He droped mostly because the rise of both Hezonja and Kristaps Porzingis, the Kings being the Kings/missing his workout, and the fact that he can’t shoot.
  If all things goes well they will have top level one and done talent, top level american born non-NBA players, and a TV network showcasing there games (Fox Sports 1).
  You mention pay. It’s basically a budget to how much an overseas and d-league player can make and they will pay much more than what the d-league can offer. Also, the one and done players will get paid way more than the other players. They will get paid from $700.000 to $2.5M. Money won’t be an issue when getting the players
  
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 9:50am #1007317

llperez
players have always had the option to go get paid, but college is the best way to compete at a level fitting for highshcool graduates where they arent going against grown men and college provides them with way more tv exposure to help market and showcase themsleves. Look how much brandon jennings stock dropped when he went overseas. Mudiay was in the discussion for #1 pick and dropped by going overseas. I dont think highschool kids are going to start skipping college in any great number sacrificing that draft stock to make the immediate dollar. And if this league really does pay well, there will be tons of higher level d-league and overseas guys trying to get in making it that much harder for higschool kids or kidds who just graduated highschool.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 10:22am #1007192

immortalone23
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May have been a valid argument in the 1960s and 70s because certain teams got more coverage. With the rise of social media today and the national exposure from the Peach Jam and other tournaments ESPN broadcasts, it’s very easy to tell the top prospects in high school. The NBA Player’s Association runs the Top 100 camp where the top 100 high school players attend camp and take part in seminars run by former players. Don’t forget the FIBA tournaments! The NBA loves college ball because it caters to the casual fan. Harcore basketball fans are aware of the top players, casual fans are not. Take Kyrie Irving who got injured early at Duke, don’t you think NBA GMs would have watched his high school games to get a better feel on him?

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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:02am #1007218
  
  llperez
  i assume youn are reponding to me? Are you really going to tell me that the austin torros get as much media exposure and national tv coverage as duke,kentucky etc…The Dleague playoffs get the same coverage as march madness?
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 11:02am #1007357
  
  llperez
  i assume youn are reponding to me? Are you really going to tell me that the austin torros get as much media exposure and national tv coverage as duke,kentucky etc…The Dleague playoffs get the same coverage as march madness?
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 10:22am #1007331

immortalone23
Participant
May have been a valid argument in the 1960s and 70s because certain teams got more coverage. With the rise of social media today and the national exposure from the Peach Jam and other tournaments ESPN broadcasts, it’s very easy to tell the top prospects in high school. The NBA Player’s Association runs the Top 100 camp where the top 100 high school players attend camp and take part in seminars run by former players. Don’t forget the FIBA tournaments! The NBA loves college ball because it caters to the casual fan. Harcore basketball fans are aware of the top players, casual fans are not. Take Kyrie Irving who got injured early at Duke, don’t you think NBA GMs would have watched his high school games to get a better feel on him?

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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 1:14pm #1007401

Rip255
I like the idea.
Naturally the usual band of cynics on this site are in full force. But if these kids can get 2.5m straight out of HS then I’m sure plenty are going to take it.
College guarantees nothing but an education. I’ll take the 2.5m and If basketball still doesnt work out I’ll pay for my own tuition.
8 teams…if theyre owned in a franchise type setup….only requires 8 rich investors. Nike will buy a franchise straight up. A few million is chump change to them.
And Guys dont wanna play in places like Russia, China or Israel. Living in a country where you cant speak the language is hard times.
Give them a well paid American Alternative and they’ll take it.
I’d watch for sure. Theres no other basketball on at this time and its not like the NCAA product is that good to watch once it starts anyways.

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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 1:14pm #1007262

Rip255
I like the idea.
Naturally the usual band of cynics on this site are in full force. But if these kids can get 2.5m straight out of HS then I’m sure plenty are going to take it.
College guarantees nothing but an education. I’ll take the 2.5m and If basketball still doesnt work out I’ll pay for my own tuition.
8 teams…if theyre owned in a franchise type setup….only requires 8 rich investors. Nike will buy a franchise straight up. A few million is chump change to them.
And Guys dont wanna play in places like Russia, China or Israel. Living in a country where you cant speak the language is hard times.
Give them a well paid American Alternative and they’ll take it.
I’d watch for sure. Theres no other basketball on at this time and its not like the NCAA product is that good to watch once it starts anyways.

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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 1:48pm #1007409
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  That’s exactly what i was saying. Plus, the players will take seminars for buisness and the people that doing the seminars are fortune 500 companies. Some might believe that’s better than getting a 1 year education about a degree you never will never need.
  I’m pretty sure Nike, Under Armour, and/or Adidas will get involved in it and try to be the league top sponsor.
  One guy said they don’t have a great buisness plan, or somewhat like that. I say that’s a stupid commnet because I believe they have a perfect buisness plan. They can get top oversees american players and top d-league players. They will offer more money to d-league players and they will offer the top american born overseas players the oppotunity to play in front of NBA excutives.
  The key is to get some top level talent from the high school one and dones. If they can get like 6-8 of the top 14 players than the league will be set.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 1:48pm #1007270
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  That’s exactly what i was saying. Plus, the players will take seminars for buisness and the people that doing the seminars are fortune 500 companies. Some might believe that’s better than getting a 1 year education about a degree you never will never need.
  I’m pretty sure Nike, Under Armour, and/or Adidas will get involved in it and try to be the league top sponsor.
  One guy said they don’t have a great buisness plan, or somewhat like that. I say that’s a stupid commnet because I believe they have a perfect buisness plan. They can get top oversees american players and top d-league players. They will offer more money to d-league players and they will offer the top american born overseas players the oppotunity to play in front of NBA excutives.
  The key is to get some top level talent from the high school one and dones. If they can get like 6-8 of the top 14 players than the league will be set.
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/15/2015 - 3:21pm #1007678
  
  European Basketballer
  Participant
  You do realize that pretty much everyone in Israel and Russia speaks English right? Certainly anywhere possible a basketball player would sign they do, and all the teams are operated under English.
  And actually in Israel for example, EVERYTHING in the country is in English also with Hebrew, not just spoken, but also for writing.
  And in major Russian city, pretty much they have everything also in English.
  So langauge would be ZERO issue in Israel or Russia. I’m not sure why would even mention that, because it makes no sense at all.
  Actually, I think more people in those countries speak English in any typical big city, than in a typical big American city.
  
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/15/2015 - 3:21pm #1007817
  
  European Basketballer
  Participant
  You do realize that pretty much everyone in Israel and Russia speaks English right? Certainly anywhere possible a basketball player would sign they do, and all the teams are operated under English.
  And actually in Israel for example, EVERYTHING in the country is in English also with Hebrew, not just spoken, but also for writing.
  And in major Russian city, pretty much they have everything also in English.
  So langauge would be ZERO issue in Israel or Russia. I’m not sure why would even mention that, because it makes no sense at all.
  Actually, I think more people in those countries speak English in any typical big city, than in a typical big American city.
  
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:02pm #1007413

Rip255
They should set up deals with betting companies, casinos and alcoholic beverage companies. Those in America probably think it would lead to corruption…but it would bring in a lot of money.
Alcohol and gambling companies are the biggest sponsors of Australian and UK pro sports. Literally brings in billions. It brings very few problems.
Imagine these matchups:
Jack Daniels Spirit vs Ceasars Palace Romans
MGM Grande High Rollers vs Budweiser Party
During half time they could feature a marquee matchup in the Lingerie Basketball League. Would be better than a Cabaret show.
Sounds farfetched…but players wont complain when they’re getting seriously paid.

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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:02pm #1007274

Rip255
They should set up deals with betting companies, casinos and alcoholic beverage companies. Those in America probably think it would lead to corruption…but it would bring in a lot of money.
Alcohol and gambling companies are the biggest sponsors of Australian and UK pro sports. Literally brings in billions. It brings very few problems.
Imagine these matchups:
Jack Daniels Spirit vs Ceasars Palace Romans
MGM Grande High Rollers vs Budweiser Party
During half time they could feature a marquee matchup in the Lingerie Basketball League. Would be better than a Cabaret show.
Sounds farfetched…but players wont complain when they’re getting seriously paid.

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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 8:43pm #1007491
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This league have so much potential to be great, but it won’t be competitive to college basketball with only eight teams in the league. Once the foundation is set and they can get top recruits yearly then they should expand the league to 20 teams. 10 teams in Vegas and 10 teams in another city.
  They should relocate to a city that really wants a basketball team, but don’t have a really big time college team. I was really thinking that they should (if the league does great) set another 10 teams to New Mexico or to Seattle. I know most will say "Why New Mexico?" and I would say that New Mexico does not have a mojor sports team and the league can thrive to bring something worth watching to New Mexico.
  They can have an 8 team playoffs with a best of 5 format.
  I really want this league to come to fruition because im sick and tired of the NCAA Basketball slow pace, rules, lack of offence, lack of spacing, restrictions, and coaches game. I really only watch college basketball because I want to see the top recruits play and the March Madness. This idea makes ton of sense and this can actually be the next big thing.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 8:43pm #1007352
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  This league have so much potential to be great, but it won’t be competitive to college basketball with only eight teams in the league. Once the foundation is set and they can get top recruits yearly then they should expand the league to 20 teams. 10 teams in Vegas and 10 teams in another city.
  They should relocate to a city that really wants a basketball team, but don’t have a really big time college team. I was really thinking that they should (if the league does great) set another 10 teams to New Mexico or to Seattle. I know most will say "Why New Mexico?" and I would say that New Mexico does not have a mojor sports team and the league can thrive to bring something worth watching to New Mexico.
  They can have an 8 team playoffs with a best of 5 format.
  I really want this league to come to fruition because im sick and tired of the NCAA Basketball slow pace, rules, lack of offence, lack of spacing, restrictions, and coaches game. I really only watch college basketball because I want to see the top recruits play and the March Madness. This idea makes ton of sense and this can actually be the next big thing.
  
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:29pm #1007417

llperez
For all those thinking this is a flawless idea them I’m sure this league will be up and be real successful soon, let’s revisit this thread and see how smart you all are.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:29pm #1007278

llperez
For all those thinking this is a flawless idea them I’m sure this league will be up and be real successful soon, let’s revisit this thread and see how smart you all are.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:37pm #1007421
  
  Rip255
  Never underestimate the power of the breakaway league.
  Go through your history books to see how leagues like this have shaped sports history as we know it.
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:37pm #1007282
  
  Rip255
  Never underestimate the power of the breakaway league.
  Go through your history books to see how leagues like this have shaped sports history as we know it.
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:54pm #1007425
    
    llperez
    A breakaway league based around paying big money to Dleague level players as well as high school guys who are not yet ready to hang with said nba washouts. Yup soynds like a huge money maker, surely this takes off.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 2:54pm #1007286
    
    llperez
    A breakaway league based around paying big money to Dleague level players as well as high school guys who are not yet ready to hang with said nba washouts. Yup soynds like a huge money maker, surely this takes off.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 6:11pm #1007477
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  I didn’t say once that it was a "flawless" idea. Just saying that it’s interesting and that it can really work.
  It’s you and someone one on another making the case that it couldn’t work or that it’s an insane idea without giving facts.
  I made the case of how they can get players, when getting the players TV deals will come along with more endorsement deals, and more. It’s you making an negetive light to an great idea,
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 6:11pm #1007338
  
  ChicagoCasey
  Participant
  I didn’t say once that it was a "flawless" idea. Just saying that it’s interesting and that it can really work.
  It’s you and someone one on another making the case that it couldn’t work or that it’s an insane idea without giving facts.
  I made the case of how they can get players, when getting the players TV deals will come along with more endorsement deals, and more. It’s you making an negetive light to an great idea,
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 6:32pm #1007479
    
    Rip255
    My Latino friend here sabotages every thread with his ultra conservative views.
    This is exponentially significant because hes the first to reply to almost every thread.
    I basically need a coffee or I fall asleep reading them.
    
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 6:32pm #1007340
    
    Rip255
    My Latino friend here sabotages every thread with his ultra conservative views.
    This is exponentially significant because hes the first to reply to almost every thread.
    I basically need a coffee or I fall asleep reading them.
    
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 7:53pm #1007487

immortalone23
Participant
I wasn’t saying that. I’m saying NBA GMs know who the top guys are. That’s why I don’t really like the tv exposure argument.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/13/2015 - 7:53pm #1007348

immortalone23
Participant
I wasn’t saying that. I’m saying NBA GMs know who the top guys are. That’s why I don’t really like the tv exposure argument.
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- Posted on: Fri, 08/14/2015 - 12:26am #1007370
  
  llperez
  well i wasnt saying gms want tv exposure. i was saying the kids do, they enjoy the spotlight.
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- Posted on: Fri, 08/14/2015 - 12:26am #1007509
  
  llperez
  well i wasnt saying gms want tv exposure. i was saying the kids do, they enjoy the spotlight.
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