My take on possible first round selection errors

 I gotta really disagree with that opinion on Looney. I think he might have been one of the selections that made the most sense. He fits the Warriors idea of small ball, is a terrific college rebounder (which usually translates into success in the NBA with that same skillset), and the reports I’ve read about his hip injury seem to suggest that he’ll be able to play this season and it shouldn’t be a long term problem. Is it a risky pick? Absolutely. But it’s high risk/high reward and at the end of the first round with a team that just won the championship and has time to groom him it’s a risk well worth it. 

 I gotta really disagree with that opinion on Looney. I think he might have been one of the selections that made the most sense. He fits the Warriors idea of small ball, is a terrific college rebounder (which usually translates into success in the NBA with that same skillset), and the reports I’ve read about his hip injury seem to suggest that he’ll be able to play this season and it shouldn’t be a long term problem. Is it a risky pick? Absolutely. But it’s high risk/high reward and at the end of the first round with a team that just won the championship and has time to groom him it’s a risk well worth it. 

I agree with all except for the Hawks and Warriors.

I don’t think the Hawks will lose Millsap. Being a Jazz fan and seeing him play for us, I could tell the only reason Millsap left the Jazz, was because the Jazz were headed in a different direction. They wanted to train and develop their young players and they couldn’t do that with old veterans such as Millsap, Big Al, Richard Jefferson, Carroll, etc… on their team. So they had to get of them. Millsap understood so he signed with Atlanta. No hard feelings or animosity ever existed between the Jazz and Millsap. This is not the case with the Hawks. They are not looking to rebuild, or develop young players like the Jazz were and still are. They are looking to win now, just what Millsap needs. Therefore he will stay with the Hawks.

Hardaway is not some scrub. Yeah, he played for a crappy Knicks team, But just because a player plays for a crappy team does not mean said player is crappy or a srub as well. Hardaway can shoot the lights out, and I bet if he was on a team that actually cared about defense, he would learn a thing or two and play some well qualified D. True, Kyle Korver just had his best season, but Demarre Carroll got hurt in the playoffs and may never come back the way he used to play. It might be better off for the Hawks start Korver at the 3 and Hardaway at the 2. Also Korver isn’t getting any younger. Yeah, he just had his best season, but that is in part of two reasons. One: he was playing for a team that played to his strengths, and two: he’s a veteran, so he’s learned the tricks of the trade and knows how to play in this league, therefore he was due for a career season. Like I said before he is not getting any younger and will soon start to deteriorate just like all veteran old players tend to do. Atlanta saw this, so they thought it might be time to bring in a younger player like Hardaway and have him learn from Korver. I’m not saying Korver will deteriorate this coming season. I am just saying its possible. More so I’m thinking that Korver will have to start at the 3 while Hardaway starts at the 2.

The Warriors are looking to win now, but they just won the championship. They have the perfect player at every position. They can stand a couple years to develop a raw rookie such as Looney. Looney is not going to come in and play from day 1. He will probably be seeing a lot of time in the D-league. Besides in the meantime he can learn from players such as Iggy, Barnes, and Draymond Green. They can mentor him and help him learn tricks of the trade. Looney will probably not play for the Warriors for at least another 1 or 2 years. (2017 or 2018 not this coming season.) So he won’t affect the Warriors win now status. And Iggy isn’t getting any younger. It’s time for the Warriors to find a possible replacement down the line. Looney could be that guy.

I agree with all except for the Hawks and Warriors.

I don’t think the Hawks will lose Millsap. Being a Jazz fan and seeing him play for us, I could tell the only reason Millsap left the Jazz, was because the Jazz were headed in a different direction. They wanted to train and develop their young players and they couldn’t do that with old veterans such as Millsap, Big Al, Richard Jefferson, Carroll, etc… on their team. So they had to get of them. Millsap understood so he signed with Atlanta. No hard feelings or animosity ever existed between the Jazz and Millsap. This is not the case with the Hawks. They are not looking to rebuild, or develop young players like the Jazz were and still are. They are looking to win now, just what Millsap needs. Therefore he will stay with the Hawks.

Hardaway is not some scrub. Yeah, he played for a crappy Knicks team, But just because a player plays for a crappy team does not mean said player is crappy or a srub as well. Hardaway can shoot the lights out, and I bet if he was on a team that actually cared about defense, he would learn a thing or two and play some well qualified D. True, Kyle Korver just had his best season, but Demarre Carroll got hurt in the playoffs and may never come back the way he used to play. It might be better off for the Hawks start Korver at the 3 and Hardaway at the 2. Also Korver isn’t getting any younger. Yeah, he just had his best season, but that is in part of two reasons. One: he was playing for a team that played to his strengths, and two: he’s a veteran, so he’s learned the tricks of the trade and knows how to play in this league, therefore he was due for a career season. Like I said before he is not getting any younger and will soon start to deteriorate just like all veteran old players tend to do. Atlanta saw this, so they thought it might be time to bring in a younger player like Hardaway and have him learn from Korver. I’m not saying Korver will deteriorate this coming season. I am just saying its possible. More so I’m thinking that Korver will have to start at the 3 while Hardaway starts at the 2.

The Warriors are looking to win now, but they just won the championship. They have the perfect player at every position. They can stand a couple years to develop a raw rookie such as Looney. Looney is not going to come in and play from day 1. He will probably be seeing a lot of time in the D-league. Besides in the meantime he can learn from players such as Iggy, Barnes, and Draymond Green. They can mentor him and help him learn tricks of the trade. Looney will probably not play for the Warriors for at least another 1 or 2 years. (2017 or 2018 not this coming season.) So he won’t affect the Warriors win now status. And Iggy isn’t getting any younger. It’s time for the Warriors to find a possible replacement down the line. Looney could be that guy.

WCS over Mario or Muiday is not so crazy, a sure thing over very risky pick, both players are unproven and are projects…

WCS over Mario or Muiday is not so crazy, a sure thing over very risky pick, both players are unproven and are projects…

this reminds me of when Atlanta picked up korver for a trade exception and some cash, and the Carroll signing. Hardway has some flaws but a draft pick probally wasn’t going to get much burn on a team that is in win now mode sort of. The system bud runs has done wonders for players that people have written off namely korver and Carroll. Carroll is seriously about to get paid and it’s well deserved. Due to injuries the wing play was not very good. I like the potential of korver, sefolosha, hardway and potentially Carroll. At worst he’s a decent scorer of the bench at his best he may push for pt or even a starting gig provided he makes strides as a defender. 

this reminds me of when Atlanta picked up korver for a trade exception and some cash, and the Carroll signing. Hardway has some flaws but a draft pick probally wasn’t going to get much burn on a team that is in win now mode sort of. The system bud runs has done wonders for players that people have written off namely korver and Carroll. Carroll is seriously about to get paid and it’s well deserved. Due to injuries the wing play was not very good. I like the potential of korver, sefolosha, hardway and potentially Carroll. At worst he’s a decent scorer of the bench at his best he may push for pt or even a starting gig provided he makes strides as a defender. 

I agree with most.

I don’t think neither Osman nor Vaulet are ready for the NBA. Those are stash guys. Nance is very very athletic and he’s a solid pick and roll defender. Not good enough for a 1st round pick, though. I’d rather pick Anthony Brown in the 1st round than giving guaranteed money to Lance.

It also seems the Wizards gave too much for Oubre.

The Nets gave too much for RHJ. Maybe they could have got a better return for Plumlee before free agency.

I agree with most.

I don’t think neither Osman nor Vaulet are ready for the NBA. Those are stash guys. Nance is very very athletic and he’s a solid pick and roll defender. Not good enough for a 1st round pick, though. I’d rather pick Anthony Brown in the 1st round than giving guaranteed money to Lance.

It also seems the Wizards gave too much for Oubre.

The Nets gave too much for RHJ. Maybe they could have got a better return for Plumlee before free agency.

 none of the players have played yet any still people are acting like they already know what they will become.  there are a lot of guys that fall that we don’t think can ball who wind up balling and then some guys drafted lottery who suck.  A least let’s see how summer league works out.  I will admit Winslow falling to 10 reminds me of when Paul Pierce, Paul George, and Caron Butler fell later than they should have.

 none of the players have played yet any still people are acting like they already know what they will become.  there are a lot of guys that fall that we don’t think can ball who wind up balling and then some guys drafted lottery who suck.  A least let’s see how summer league works out.  I will admit Winslow falling to 10 reminds me of when Paul Pierce, Paul George, and Caron Butler fell later than they should have.

 Looney looks like a deep bench 4 with some all around skills.  Basically the David Lee replacement.

wasnt he a top 10-15 guy at times on this board?  Very solid pick.  I bet the Warriors thought, at worst, he gives you garbage minutes at the 4.  At best, he becomes a stretch 4 styled 6th man who can also play some small ball center.

i think the Lakers should have taken Okafor.  Big men win rings. Then all the guys coming up in free agency would complement Okafor.  Aldridge and Love are 4’s.  as is Anthony Davis when he comes up for Big Money.  Kevin Durant is a 3.  Cheap centers who command double teams? Hard to come by.  

The Cavs should have gotten more Win Now out of the draft.  Either keep Tyus Jones as a top flight backup point guard (making Delly the backup 2 or 3rd string point), or gone after some more polished guys.

the Celtics are still trying to win a Home Run Derby by hitting doubles.  

 Looney looks like a deep bench 4 with some all around skills.  Basically the David Lee replacement.

wasnt he a top 10-15 guy at times on this board?  Very solid pick.  I bet the Warriors thought, at worst, he gives you garbage minutes at the 4.  At best, he becomes a stretch 4 styled 6th man who can also play some small ball center.

i think the Lakers should have taken Okafor.  Big men win rings. Then all the guys coming up in free agency would complement Okafor.  Aldridge and Love are 4’s.  as is Anthony Davis when he comes up for Big Money.  Kevin Durant is a 3.  Cheap centers who command double teams? Hard to come by.  

The Cavs should have gotten more Win Now out of the draft.  Either keep Tyus Jones as a top flight backup point guard (making Delly the backup 2 or 3rd string point), or gone after some more polished guys.

the Celtics are still trying to win a Home Run Derby by hitting doubles.  

 I agree with all except McCullough and looney. I think both were good value picks for that point in the draft.

I would also question Houston taking Dekker when they clearly needed a ball-handler to take some of the pressure off harden and jerian grant and tyus Jones were still available.

 I actually didn’t like Chicago taking portis either, even though most people seem to think they got a steal. They are already stacked in the frontcourt and unless they are planning on shaking up their roster this summer I feel like it just creates more of a logjam at the pf slot. I really would have liked to see them draft a reliable back up pg like tyus Jones or shooter like hunter.

 I agree with all except McCullough and looney. I think both were good value picks for that point in the draft.

I would also question Houston taking Dekker when they clearly needed a ball-handler to take some of the pressure off harden and jerian grant and tyus Jones were still available.

 I actually didn’t like Chicago taking portis either, even though most people seem to think they got a steal. They are already stacked in the frontcourt and unless they are planning on shaking up their roster this summer I feel like it just creates more of a logjam at the pf slot. I really would have liked to see them draft a reliable back up pg like tyus Jones or shooter like hunter.

I know a lot of people will not agree with this now, but when revisiting it in five years, I think the Knicks, Hornets, and Heat will all wish they had drafted Myles Turner. 

I know a lot of people will not agree with this now, but when revisiting it in five years, I think the Knicks, Hornets, and Heat will all wish they had drafted Myles Turner. 

 I respectfully disagree with McCullough and this whole idea of "nba ready","can contribute immediatly". We saw how McDermott,Gary Harris,Adreian Payne and Napier were supposed to contribute immediatly. And isn’t the draft a long term investment? Brooklyn who has about 0 good draft picks in the next decade it seems,they have a unique chance of drafting a guy who eventually,potentially could be great. They have no chance at winning the title in the next years,and no chance at a high draft pick. No need to draft 3 year player who are gonna be as good in the first year as in the 4th year. 

 I respectfully disagree with McCullough and this whole idea of "nba ready","can contribute immediatly". We saw how McDermott,Gary Harris,Adreian Payne and Napier were supposed to contribute immediatly. And isn’t the draft a long term investment? Brooklyn who has about 0 good draft picks in the next decade it seems,they have a unique chance of drafting a guy who eventually,potentially could be great. They have no chance at winning the title in the next years,and no chance at a high draft pick. No need to draft 3 year player who are gonna be as good in the first year as in the 4th year. 

 Jackson is not better than Collison, so looks like Pistons need a PG as much or more

 Jackson is not better than Collison, so looks like Pistons need a PG as much or more