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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 7:39am #60679
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    OhCanada-
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    I strongly believe Porzingis will be traded before the regular season begins, similar to the Wiggins/Love deal last year. Knicks didn’t pick Porzingis over Mudiay because he is a better fit. They did it because more teams in the league have interest in a show blocking stretch 4 then in a PG than a dynamic PG.

    I believe the Knicks will get West as reported, likely Monroe, and a G Jackson, Dragic, Ellis, Bledsoe, or Lawson.

    They may actually end up with a good roster as well.

     

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 7:48am #995468
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     I don’t believe they pick Porzingis over Mudiay because he’s the better pick. I believe they picked him because he’s the better prospect and some believe he might be the best player in the draft when it’s all said and done. I believe they keep him because they see him as the face of the franchise.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 7:48am #995325
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     I don’t believe they pick Porzingis over Mudiay because he’s the better pick. I believe they picked him because he’s the better prospect and some believe he might be the best player in the draft when it’s all said and done. I believe they keep him because they see him as the face of the franchise.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 9:43am #995343
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     The Knicks fans started to boo and Melo is apparently not happy with who they drafted. But since when did Melo run the Knicks draft room. The Knicks have a load of FA space aprox $30 million so should be able to land a few decent players to put around Melo.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 9:43am #995486
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     The Knicks fans started to boo and Melo is apparently not happy with who they drafted. But since when did Melo run the Knicks draft room. The Knicks have a load of FA space aprox $30 million so should be able to land a few decent players to put around Melo.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:07am #995353
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    If the Knicks are serious about running the Triangle offense, that may dissuade them from drafting a ball dominant PG who can’t shoot.  Mudiay would be a poor fit in the offense NYK is trying to develop.  Porzingis hopefully can develop as a high post option for them.  I don’t think he has the B-ball IQ or passing ability to be a great fit in that system – I think Porzi is more of a pick-and-pop player – but NYK evidently wants him to be their version of Pau Gasol.

    I think Porzingis was a major reach in the top-4, but Mudiay has major questions about his game as well – I’m not that shocked he slipped.

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    • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:03pm #995371
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       I don’t think its a reach at all, most draft boards had him in the top 5 and the reason for that was because of his potential down the road.This pick, no matter who it was wasn’t gonna take the knicks somewhere overnight, Free Agency is there chance to put them into play off contention even in the East and I’m sure Phil knew that.

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    • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:03pm #995515
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       I don’t think its a reach at all, most draft boards had him in the top 5 and the reason for that was because of his potential down the road.This pick, no matter who it was wasn’t gonna take the knicks somewhere overnight, Free Agency is there chance to put them into play off contention even in the East and I’m sure Phil knew that.

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 10:52pm #995924
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      MikeCopp
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       I agree with the idea of Mudiay not fitting into the Triangle take this article into consideration: http://www.82games.com/uy4.htm

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 10:52pm #995779
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       I agree with the idea of Mudiay not fitting into the Triangle take this article into consideration: http://www.82games.com/uy4.htm

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:07am #995496
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    If the Knicks are serious about running the Triangle offense, that may dissuade them from drafting a ball dominant PG who can’t shoot.  Mudiay would be a poor fit in the offense NYK is trying to develop.  Porzingis hopefully can develop as a high post option for them.  I don’t think he has the B-ball IQ or passing ability to be a great fit in that system – I think Porzi is more of a pick-and-pop player – but NYK evidently wants him to be their version of Pau Gasol.

    I think Porzingis was a major reach in the top-4, but Mudiay has major questions about his game as well – I’m not that shocked he slipped.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:49am #995357
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    Stephen A. Bayless
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     If they signed the "right" Free agent (Aldridge or Gasol), I could see them making Porzingis available but only in a good deal that gives them a legitimately win now chance. With that said, I expect them to keep and develop Porzingis, while adding some pieces around Melo in free agency. They could be really good in 2016-17 if they play their cards right and still have Porzingis.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:49am #995500
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     If they signed the "right" Free agent (Aldridge or Gasol), I could see them making Porzingis available but only in a good deal that gives them a legitimately win now chance. With that said, I expect them to keep and develop Porzingis, while adding some pieces around Melo in free agency. They could be really good in 2016-17 if they play their cards right and still have Porzingis.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:53am #995359
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     I don’t understand why Melo is so salty. What was he expecting? the team has the 4th pick in the draft for a reason. They stink. Teams that high either take the sure thing superstar (typically there is some kind of concensus) or the could be superstar…not the sure thing good not great player. 

    Like what did the Knicks do that people would’ve done differently? Terrible tea taking a chance on a kid that may be a stud. Might bust, but they already suck so its worth a shot. 

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 10:53am #995503
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     I don’t understand why Melo is so salty. What was he expecting? the team has the 4th pick in the draft for a reason. They stink. Teams that high either take the sure thing superstar (typically there is some kind of concensus) or the could be superstar…not the sure thing good not great player. 

    Like what did the Knicks do that people would’ve done differently? Terrible tea taking a chance on a kid that may be a stud. Might bust, but they already suck so its worth a shot. 

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 11:05am #995365
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     I expected a Philly-NY trade on draft night. Everyone knows NY desperately wanted Okafor and rumors had Hinske having a man crush on Porzingas. I thought Philly took Okafor to trade with NY for more assets. I thought this was even more true when NY maneuvered to get Grant, who plays pg, fits what Hinske wants, and whose brother plays for Philly already. Could we eventually see a swap of Porzingas and Grant for Okafor?

     

     

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 9:39am #995598
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       this is what I expect to happen 

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 9:39am #995741
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       this is what I expect to happen 

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 10:53am #995608
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       I’d love to see Porzingis beating up on the Knicks for the next 10 years, after the knicks fans booed him so much.

       

       

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    • Posted on: Sun, 06/28/2015 - 10:53am #995752
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       I’d love to see Porzingis beating up on the Knicks for the next 10 years, after the knicks fans booed him so much.

       

       

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    • Posted on: Wed, 08/12/2015 - 6:31pm #1007104
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       B/c they really should have had the #2 pick & Okafor is Perfect for them… But I don’t think Phila was interested in Porzingus or Russell…. In only 26 months as Sixers GM, Hinkie has developed quite a repuatation as a Draft day poker shark & this year was no different…. Think about the way Hinkie spread misinformation to create opportunities for the Sixers to acquire additional 1st round picks in both the 2013 & 2014 Draft… Remember the Only reason Hinkie is in Phila is b/c the Andrew Bynum Trade debacle literally Destroyed that Franchise…. In addition to the Sixers losing their 2 best players (Igudola & Nic Vucevick), Hinkie’s predecessor ALSO gave up THREE future 1st round draft picks… Experts predicted that Philadelphia had turned into the Milwaukee Bucks overnight (before last seasons .500 record, the Bucks had 10 str8 losing seasons w/ Zero playoff appearances)… From day one Hinkie was honest w/ the fans that they had no options but to try to tear it down & rebuild. Even if they did want to build on the Very average at best nucleus of Jrue Holliday, Thad Young & Evan Turner, they had almost no Draft Picks on which to add talent to that core…. So Hinkie laid it out & the fans bought in. The new goal would be a Very simple 3 step process: #1 get out from under the long term guarenteed contracts that Doug Collins had handed out. #2 Use those remaining players & the cap space moving them would create to stockpile Draft Picks. #3 Finally, Draft the Best Talent available regardless of position each year…. W/ the situation Phila was in being so dire, the goal was Very simple for the team & the fans to understand & everyone knew it would require years of patience but the fan base was Ok w/ it… When you consider what Hinkie had to work with, what he already accomplished in 2013 & 2014 was quite remarkable…. So going into this year’s Draft, everyone in the Media assumed that the Sixers would go after a Guard but in the months leading up to the Draft Lottery Hinkie stayed on message insisting that the Sixers would choose the best talent available. There was excitement b/c Phila had a chance to acquire 4 draft picks this year (Miami, OKC, L.A. & their own)… But Hinkie insisted that ALL the mathematical models they were running in an effort to predict the percentages of landing these picks this year & where their own pick would be, the models showed over 80% of the time that the Sixers would Only have their own pick & ot would be at # 4…. Suddenly two weeks before the Lottery a story appeared in USA today that the Sixers "wanted" D’Angelo Russell. Most assumed after the MCW trade that the Sixers wanted Mudiay b/c for most of the last year Russell was not rated in the top 60 of Draft… But by this time period weeks before the Lottery & 6 weeks before the actual Draft the Top scouts were ALL in agreement that Towns & Okafor would be the top 2 picks & the two guards Mudiay & Russell would go next at 3 & 4… So if the Sixers were theoretically after Russell why would they leak that they wanted Russell – which would add to his stock’s rise & all but ensure that Russell would go #3 & Not #4 – so why if they wanted Russell, would a draft savy GM like Hinkie contribute to Russell’s pre draft hype – Unless he was Hoping to do that so Mudoay would be there at # 4… When Phila landed the # 3 pick on Lottery night Hinkie was Beaming…. Rumors swirled that L.A. would take Russell & attempt to regain their Lottery pick from Hinkie & swap for Okafor… But the Lakers assumed something that Hinkie Never really wanted… Word out of Phila was that there were screams & cheers coming out of the Phila war room b/c they were Stunned to get Okafor & they were Thrilled b/c he was the Best player on their board after Towns… That’s why they drafyed Okafor within seconds…. Now Orlando really wanted Porzingus – so the story that Hinkie luved Porzingus seemed to be more Hinkie leaking misinformation in the hopes of getting either N.Y. or Orlando to panic & throw a crazy trade offer at Phila, but as Hinkie said after the Draft, you don’t trade back in the Draft if your team has a top 3 pick when traditionally if there is a Franchise changing player that is where he will be found… (apologies for the long post)

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       When you consider the starting point, what Hinkie already has accomplished in two drafts w/ very little to work with is quite remarkable…

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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    • Posted on: Wed, 08/12/2015 - 6:31pm #1007243
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       B/c they really should have had the #2 pick & Okafor is Perfect for them… But I don’t think Phila was interested in Porzingus or Russell…. In only 26 months as Sixers GM, Hinkie has developed quite a repuatation as a Draft day poker shark & this year was no different…. Think about the way Hinkie spread misinformation to create opportunities for the Sixers to acquire additional 1st round picks in both the 2013 & 2014 Draft… Remember the Only reason Hinkie is in Phila is b/c the Andrew Bynum Trade debacle literally Destroyed that Franchise…. In addition to the Sixers losing their 2 best players (Igudola & Nic Vucevick), Hinkie’s predecessor ALSO gave up THREE future 1st round draft picks… Experts predicted that Philadelphia had turned into the Milwaukee Bucks overnight (before last seasons .500 record, the Bucks had 10 str8 losing seasons w/ Zero playoff appearances)… From day one Hinkie was honest w/ the fans that they had no options but to try to tear it down & rebuild. Even if they did want to build on the Very average at best nucleus of Jrue Holliday, Thad Young & Evan Turner, they had almost no Draft Picks on which to add talent to that core…. So Hinkie laid it out & the fans bought in. The new goal would be a Very simple 3 step process: #1 get out from under the long term guarenteed contracts that Doug Collins had handed out. #2 Use those remaining players & the cap space moving them would create to stockpile Draft Picks. #3 Finally, Draft the Best Talent available regardless of position each year…. W/ the situation Phila was in being so dire, the goal was Very simple for the team & the fans to understand & everyone knew it would require years of patience but the fan base was Ok w/ it… When you consider what Hinkie had to work with, what he already accomplished in 2013 & 2014 was quite remarkable…. So going into this year’s Draft, everyone in the Media assumed that the Sixers would go after a Guard but in the months leading up to the Draft Lottery Hinkie stayed on message insisting that the Sixers would choose the best talent available. There was excitement b/c Phila had a chance to acquire 4 draft picks this year (Miami, OKC, L.A. & their own)… But Hinkie insisted that ALL the mathematical models they were running in an effort to predict the percentages of landing these picks this year & where their own pick would be, the models showed over 80% of the time that the Sixers would Only have their own pick & ot would be at # 4…. Suddenly two weeks before the Lottery a story appeared in USA today that the Sixers "wanted" D’Angelo Russell. Most assumed after the MCW trade that the Sixers wanted Mudiay b/c for most of the last year Russell was not rated in the top 60 of Draft… But by this time period weeks before the Lottery & 6 weeks before the actual Draft the Top scouts were ALL in agreement that Towns & Okafor would be the top 2 picks & the two guards Mudiay & Russell would go next at 3 & 4… So if the Sixers were theoretically after Russell why would they leak that they wanted Russell – which would add to his stock’s rise & all but ensure that Russell would go #3 & Not #4 – so why if they wanted Russell, would a draft savy GM like Hinkie contribute to Russell’s pre draft hype – Unless he was Hoping to do that so Mudoay would be there at # 4… When Phila landed the # 3 pick on Lottery night Hinkie was Beaming…. Rumors swirled that L.A. would take Russell & attempt to regain their Lottery pick from Hinkie & swap for Okafor… But the Lakers assumed something that Hinkie Never really wanted… Word out of Phila was that there were screams & cheers coming out of the Phila war room b/c they were Stunned to get Okafor & they were Thrilled b/c he was the Best player on their board after Towns… That’s why they drafyed Okafor within seconds…. Now Orlando really wanted Porzingus – so the story that Hinkie luved Porzingus seemed to be more Hinkie leaking misinformation in the hopes of getting either N.Y. or Orlando to panic & throw a crazy trade offer at Phila, but as Hinkie said after the Draft, you don’t trade back in the Draft if your team has a top 3 pick when traditionally if there is a Franchise changing player that is where he will be found… (apologies for the long post)

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       When you consider the starting point, what Hinkie already has accomplished in two drafts w/ very little to work with is quite remarkable…

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 11:05am #995509
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     I expected a Philly-NY trade on draft night. Everyone knows NY desperately wanted Okafor and rumors had Hinske having a man crush on Porzingas. I thought Philly took Okafor to trade with NY for more assets. I thought this was even more true when NY maneuvered to get Grant, who plays pg, fits what Hinske wants, and whose brother plays for Philly already. Could we eventually see a swap of Porzingas and Grant for Okafor?

     

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 11:59am #995369
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     anything is possible, but they did take the highest value prospect on most boards "around the league" on draft day when they picked, with hezonja and mudiay being close behind…so i think unless they just absolutely didnt care about keeping any prospect and the value was the reasoning, then maybe op has a point… but i am incline to think they would be better off keeping porzingas rebuilding through fa the rest of the way and yes say goodbye to the team killer that is melo.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 11:59am #995513
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     anything is possible, but they did take the highest value prospect on most boards "around the league" on draft day when they picked, with hezonja and mudiay being close behind…so i think unless they just absolutely didnt care about keeping any prospect and the value was the reasoning, then maybe op has a point… but i am incline to think they would be better off keeping porzingas rebuilding through fa the rest of the way and yes say goodbye to the team killer that is melo.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:18pm #995379
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    If they sign monroe and land david west then its worth keep Prozingis cuz he can develop slowly.  Phil drafted a project who probably wont contribute in at least the next 3 years but then traded for a 23 year old rookie pg?  Not sure that goes well together considering they have Melo going into the later years of his prime.   Maybe he’s trying to get melo to waive his no trade clause by making these bizarre choices.  Porzingis could the next Dirk or could be the next Bargniani…Melo probably doesnt want to wait around to see what happens unless they sign some marquee free agents.  

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    • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:27pm #995381
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       alot of your concerned comments are similar too what most of the panel during the draft were saying, but porzingas is far far from being a project my friend. Could the knicks have made the fans happier by drafting a "known" ;sure…but even this season Porzingas will show his goods pretty quickly.Yes he needs to learn the triangle,and if he struggles then yes it was a bad choice by jackson to draft him, but his style of play and extremely high release high % translates well…etc and make him capable of scoring all day 8 ft from the basket and heavier lumbering bigs won’t be able to defend him.Don’t assume he cannot bang down low at all, he can,and he’s slippery enough to outwit the strength players.but that is not his game at all anyway,and he is still considered one of the highest ranked prospects in the past 5 drafts from anywhere intl or homeland.

      I’d use him at the 3 off the bench until he gets used to the system, he has the length and agility for it to make up for speed issues,although he’s one of the fastest bigs in the nba as well.

       

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    • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:27pm #995525
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       alot of your concerned comments are similar too what most of the panel during the draft were saying, but porzingas is far far from being a project my friend. Could the knicks have made the fans happier by drafting a "known" ;sure…but even this season Porzingas will show his goods pretty quickly.Yes he needs to learn the triangle,and if he struggles then yes it was a bad choice by jackson to draft him, but his style of play and extremely high release high % translates well…etc and make him capable of scoring all day 8 ft from the basket and heavier lumbering bigs won’t be able to defend him.Don’t assume he cannot bang down low at all, he can,and he’s slippery enough to outwit the strength players.but that is not his game at all anyway,and he is still considered one of the highest ranked prospects in the past 5 drafts from anywhere intl or homeland.

      I’d use him at the 3 off the bench until he gets used to the system, he has the length and agility for it to make up for speed issues,although he’s one of the fastest bigs in the nba as well.

       

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 12:18pm #995523
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    If they sign monroe and land david west then its worth keep Prozingis cuz he can develop slowly.  Phil drafted a project who probably wont contribute in at least the next 3 years but then traded for a 23 year old rookie pg?  Not sure that goes well together considering they have Melo going into the later years of his prime.   Maybe he’s trying to get melo to waive his no trade clause by making these bizarre choices.  Porzingis could the next Dirk or could be the next Bargniani…Melo probably doesnt want to wait around to see what happens unless they sign some marquee free agents.  

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 2:41pm #995434
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     I can’t wait for Porzingis to stick his first 3 pointer right in Anthony Davis’ face.

    Porzingis’ standing reach is probably higher than Upshaw or anybody else measured at the draft.

    The average PF has a standing reach of 8’10". Porzingis’ is probably 9’5-9’7". More unblockable than Dirk.

     

     

     

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 2:41pm #995577
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     I can’t wait for Porzingis to stick his first 3 pointer right in Anthony Davis’ face.

    Porzingis’ standing reach is probably higher than Upshaw or anybody else measured at the draft.

    The average PF has a standing reach of 8’10". Porzingis’ is probably 9’5-9’7". More unblockable than Dirk.

     

     

     

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 3:40pm #995591
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    He weighed in the week the draft at 230 lbs and his 7’1" listing isnt even fair.  That is his barefoot measurement and the NBA uses WITH shoes measurements. So given that he measured out at 7’1 1/4" barefoot, makes him a legit 7’3" in NBA terms (justise winslow was 6’4.5" but was listed above 6’6"). The fact that he put on ten pounds within a month of his season ending should be very encouraging.  I wouldnt be surprised to see him 245+ by the time the season starts.

    On top of all the measurables that are mind blowing, he is also cognisant of the stigma’s in which he is going to have to shed.  He appears to be a very determined, hardworking and disciplined young man. Being fluent in English will also make the acclimation process a little bit easier.  I could see taking the league by storm, ala Giannis Antetokoumpo or Rudy Gobert, whom were both thought to be too underdeveloped physically to contribute as soon as they have.

    The dexterity, fluid athleticism, touch and feel for the game that he possesses for not only a young player, but a GIANT, are unbelievable. The sky is the limit for the young man and he got drafted to the very team he most wanted to. The kid has a chip on his shoulder and I hope that propels him forward into a very succesful and long NBA career

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    He weighed in the week the draft at 230 lbs and his 7’1" listing isnt even fair.  That is his barefoot measurement and the NBA uses WITH shoes measurements. So given that he measured out at 7’1 1/4" barefoot, makes him a legit 7’3" in NBA terms (justise winslow was 6’4.5" but was listed above 6’6"). The fact that he put on ten pounds within a month of his season ending should be very encouraging.  I wouldnt be surprised to see him 245+ by the time the season starts.

    On top of all the measurables that are mind blowing, he is also cognisant of the stigma’s in which he is going to have to shed.  He appears to be a very determined, hardworking and disciplined young man. Being fluent in English will also make the acclimation process a little bit easier.  I could see taking the league by storm, ala Giannis Antetokoumpo or Rudy Gobert, whom were both thought to be too underdeveloped physically to contribute as soon as they have.

    The dexterity, fluid athleticism, touch and feel for the game that he possesses for not only a young player, but a GIANT, are unbelievable. The sky is the limit for the young man and he got drafted to the very team he most wanted to. The kid has a chip on his shoulder and I hope that propels him forward into a very succesful and long NBA career

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 4:48pm #995611
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     A lot of people may hate me for saying this, and I may get massively negged for it. But I think what I’m about to say is more likely than the topic of this post.

    If Porzingis gets traded, Melo will get traded or demand a trade before Porzingis does. You read that right. Melo will leave NY before Porzingis does.

    I honestly, do not think Porzingis will get traded. Phil Jackson drafted because he can be the next Pau Gasol, and he knows he would be great for his fanatization with the triangle offense. I will admit Okafor would have been better, but after Russell, Porzingis was the next best player for it. Phil Jackson was just following down the line of who would fit best in his offense. Russell, and Okafor were gone by the time the Knicks selected, so he just said "no problem, I’ll draft Porzingis, he will fit in just fine."

    Phil might very well have to build this team from the bottom up. Porzingis was a great draft pick to start that out and trading Melo will bring in a lot of assets, that will help Phil build the kind of offense he loves.

     

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 06/27/2015 - 4:48pm #995469
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     A lot of people may hate me for saying this, and I may get massively negged for it. But I think what I’m about to say is more likely than the topic of this post.

    If Porzingis gets traded, Melo will get traded or demand a trade before Porzingis does. You read that right. Melo will leave NY before Porzingis does.

    I honestly, do not think Porzingis will get traded. Phil Jackson drafted because he can be the next Pau Gasol, and he knows he would be great for his fanatization with the triangle offense. I will admit Okafor would have been better, but after Russell, Porzingis was the next best player for it. Phil Jackson was just following down the line of who would fit best in his offense. Russell, and Okafor were gone by the time the Knicks selected, so he just said "no problem, I’ll draft Porzingis, he will fit in just fine."

    Phil might very well have to build this team from the bottom up. Porzingis was a great draft pick to start that out and trading Melo will bring in a lot of assets, that will help Phil build the kind of offense he loves.

     

     

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    • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:22pm #995950
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      Why does everybody repeatedly compare Porzingis with Gasol? Because he’s a white European?

      Gasol is a post player who’s entire game happens down low. It appears as if Porzinis spends quite a bit of time out on the perimter popping 3 pointers. Anybody ever see Gasol doing that? Please tell me why, other than their race, they’re similar players.

       

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    • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:22pm #996094
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      Why does everybody repeatedly compare Porzingis with Gasol? Because he’s a white European?

      Gasol is a post player who’s entire game happens down low. It appears as if Porzinis spends quite a bit of time out on the perimter popping 3 pointers. Anybody ever see Gasol doing that? Please tell me why, other than their race, they’re similar players.

       

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  • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:34pm #996102
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     This is a ballsy prediction. I think if the Knicks picked him to trade him we wouldn’t see Phil defending him as publicly as he has.

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  • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 1:34pm #995958
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     This is a ballsy prediction. I think if the Knicks picked him to trade him we wouldn’t see Phil defending him as publicly as he has.

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    • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 2:04pm #996113
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       why? if they want to inflate his value what better way to do it? 

      the kid has already proven his skillset is not only unique for his size, it is 1 in 1000 prospects.

      i for one think it is very short sighted when fans speculate based on media hoopla. look the guy is legit, he is not a "project" heck nobody taken in the 1st round of this draft is a "project"

      a project is a prospect like upshaw or dare i say fab melo… they have little if any bb iq and are just there for there potential. 

      Porzingas is a baller , if anything he just needs to learn the triangle. That will be a feat in itself,since half of that roster can’t play in it.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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    • Posted on: Mon, 06/29/2015 - 2:04pm #995970
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       why? if they want to inflate his value what better way to do it? 

      the kid has already proven his skillset is not only unique for his size, it is 1 in 1000 prospects.

      i for one think it is very short sighted when fans speculate based on media hoopla. look the guy is legit, he is not a "project" heck nobody taken in the 1st round of this draft is a "project"

      a project is a prospect like upshaw or dare i say fab melo… they have little if any bb iq and are just there for there potential. 

      Porzingas is a baller , if anything he just needs to learn the triangle. That will be a feat in itself,since half of that roster can’t play in it.

       

       

       

       

       

       

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