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- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 9:26am #60437
TenSecondTomParticipantMario Hezonja played a huge role in Barcalona’s first ACB final game versus Real Madrid. Barca ended up losing the contest by single digits, but was largely reliant on Hezonja’s skill. He finished the day with 25 minute played, 18 point shooting 5 for 6 behind the line (including one long range bomb with a hand in his face) 6/11 from the field, 5 rebounds, 2 steals, 1 assist, 4 fouls drawn (a good stat that European Leagues use in theirs Valuation grade at the end of then game), and 2 fouls defensively.
I really think that reports on his attitude are quite overblown largely because he has a right to be annoyed with the coach because Paschal was sitting him merely because he declared for the draft and he was heading straight to the NBA. Now that they’re playing a team more talented than they are, Mario starts, plays 25 minutes, and is the star of the game almost single handedly bringing Barca to a game 1 victory. Another negative I hear a lot is about his defense, but I think that its a matter of effort for Mario. Additionally he has shown the ability to come up with excellent steals to start the fastbreak that usually ends in a windmill dunk.
Another thing I wanted to point out is how his situation has truly affected the perception of him in regards to the draft. I read a report that stated an NBA scout compared him to a smaller Peja. One of the Nuggets head guys also compared him to Dražen Petrović. I think that the lack of minutes and obvious stereotypes of european players has allowed even NBA personnel to overlook the unique skillset of Maro. He could easily be the most athletic wing player in the draft. Additionally, he’s up there with Booker, Hunter, and Harvey in terms of pure shooting ability. To top it off he’s 6’8 with defensive upside. It’s a shame tha he’s not getting the buzz I believe he deserves and I think whoever takes him at 5-10 will be getting a steal (which is hard to do in the mid lottery). What are your thoughts?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 9:58am #991748
TripleDoubleScoutParticipantI believe if Mario gets past Orlando, I will consider it a Paul Pierce like situation, where an obvious top 3 player falls waaaayyyy too low based on overblown concerns. It’s amazing that Euro players get tainted with the Darko/Skita stereotype but never the Nowitzki/Ginobili(and I could go on) one. It really is weird.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 9:58am #991607
TripleDoubleScoutParticipantI believe if Mario gets past Orlando, I will consider it a Paul Pierce like situation, where an obvious top 3 player falls waaaayyyy too low based on overblown concerns. It’s amazing that Euro players get tainted with the Darko/Skita stereotype but never the Nowitzki/Ginobili(and I could go on) one. It really is weird.
0- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:26am #991765
European BasketballerParticipantEvery time I bring up in this forum how NBA is biased against European players, I get attacked by almost everyone here in the forum and they say I am a liar and that this is absolutely made up. Yet the proof is right in front of everyone’s eyes all the time.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:26am #991623
European BasketballerParticipantEvery time I bring up in this forum how NBA is biased against European players, I get attacked by almost everyone here in the forum and they say I am a liar and that this is absolutely made up. Yet the proof is right in front of everyone’s eyes all the time.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:31pm #991818
wonzi_bellsParticipantWell, for the last decade, there haven’t been any great European prospects to pan out and become an All-NBA player. It’s weird. We have more scouting than ever, more chances for these players to shine but none of them have become either franchise changing talents or All-NBA caliber players.
I did think HS Ranking list to compare recruiting rankings to All-Star and All-NBA appearances and for European/International prospects, I looked at what year they were 18 and listed them in that class.
So Pau Gasol was 18 in 1998, thus I put in the class of 1998. He made four All-NBA teams
Dirk Nowitzki is a bit different since he was 19 in 1998 but was actually considering college in the states that year but opted for the 1998 NBA Draft instead. So I’ll put him that class instead of 1997. I read here that hinted he would have been a top five recruit in 1998 along with Rashard Lewis, Al Harrington, Korleone Young and Jason Capel. Nonetheless, he made 12 All-NBA teams.
Yao Ming was 18 in 1999 and made five All-NBA teams
Tony Parker was 18 in 2000 and he made four All-NBA teams
Manu Ginobili and Peja Stojakovic were both 18 in 1995 and made a couple All-NBA teams for Manu and one for Peja.
Andrew Bogut and Marc Gasol were both 18 in 2003 and have each made one All-NBA team.
But the last time an international prospect was 18 and made an All-NBA team in their career was 2004.
Goran Dragic was 18 in 2004 and made one All-NBA team in 2014. None have since been All-NBA caliber players in the ten years since.
It’s weird that the top European players have only come from a clusters in two generations. The mid-to-late 1980s with Arvydas Sabonis, Drazen Petrovic, Sarunas Marciulionis, Toni Kukoc, Vlade Divac and others. As well as the mid-to-late 1990s and early 2000s with the names I’ve mentioned above.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:31pm #991677
wonzi_bellsParticipantWell, for the last decade, there haven’t been any great European prospects to pan out and become an All-NBA player. It’s weird. We have more scouting than ever, more chances for these players to shine but none of them have become either franchise changing talents or All-NBA caliber players.
I did think HS Ranking list to compare recruiting rankings to All-Star and All-NBA appearances and for European/International prospects, I looked at what year they were 18 and listed them in that class.
So Pau Gasol was 18 in 1998, thus I put in the class of 1998. He made four All-NBA teams
Dirk Nowitzki is a bit different since he was 19 in 1998 but was actually considering college in the states that year but opted for the 1998 NBA Draft instead. So I’ll put him that class instead of 1997. I read here that hinted he would have been a top five recruit in 1998 along with Rashard Lewis, Al Harrington, Korleone Young and Jason Capel. Nonetheless, he made 12 All-NBA teams.
Yao Ming was 18 in 1999 and made five All-NBA teams
Tony Parker was 18 in 2000 and he made four All-NBA teams
Manu Ginobili and Peja Stojakovic were both 18 in 1995 and made a couple All-NBA teams for Manu and one for Peja.
Andrew Bogut and Marc Gasol were both 18 in 2003 and have each made one All-NBA team.
But the last time an international prospect was 18 and made an All-NBA team in their career was 2004.
Goran Dragic was 18 in 2004 and made one All-NBA team in 2014. None have since been All-NBA caliber players in the ten years since.
It’s weird that the top European players have only come from a clusters in two generations. The mid-to-late 1980s with Arvydas Sabonis, Drazen Petrovic, Sarunas Marciulionis, Toni Kukoc, Vlade Divac and others. As well as the mid-to-late 1990s and early 2000s with the names I’ve mentioned above.
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:08am #991752
GBeeParticipantBuzz is generated. It’s not pulled out of thin air. The fact is that Mario has hardly been playing and his team is still active, which means no pre-draft process, no fancy edited individual workout videos, no team visits, etc. He hasn’t played enough for us to discern how much he has actually improved. We can only surmise given his situation. That being said, despite his lack of PT and only showing flashes, he’s still mocked top 5-7 which is a testament to what people think of his raw talent. He’s not being overlooked, there’s just only so much you can comment on a player who isn’t visible.
As to the specific comment you made about his defense: is "just a lack of effort" really an excuse? A large portion of defense is effort. Often times effort is an ingrained intangible, so mentioning a lack of it can be considered a big strike against him Also, that’s not the only reason why he isn’t a good defender. He also plays upright and tends to gamble.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:08am #991611
GBeeParticipantBuzz is generated. It’s not pulled out of thin air. The fact is that Mario has hardly been playing and his team is still active, which means no pre-draft process, no fancy edited individual workout videos, no team visits, etc. He hasn’t played enough for us to discern how much he has actually improved. We can only surmise given his situation. That being said, despite his lack of PT and only showing flashes, he’s still mocked top 5-7 which is a testament to what people think of his raw talent. He’s not being overlooked, there’s just only so much you can comment on a player who isn’t visible.
As to the specific comment you made about his defense: is "just a lack of effort" really an excuse? A large portion of defense is effort. Often times effort is an ingrained intangible, so mentioning a lack of it can be considered a big strike against him Also, that’s not the only reason why he isn’t a good defender. He also plays upright and tends to gamble.
0- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:34am #991770
TheTruth86ParticipantInteresting how last year Dante Exum was the mystery man playing nowhere and yet his hype was up to the sky. I do agree Hezonja is overlooked at least talentwise. He didnt play big minutes this season but the level of competion in a team like Barcellona is crazy. This is by far the highest level of ball outside the NBA. Im willing to bet a lot and Ive said it before – Hezonja will end up top 3 player from this draft and also think his chances of reaching stardom are quite bigger than those of players like Exum or Mudiay.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:34am #991629
TheTruth86ParticipantInteresting how last year Dante Exum was the mystery man playing nowhere and yet his hype was up to the sky. I do agree Hezonja is overlooked at least talentwise. He didnt play big minutes this season but the level of competion in a team like Barcellona is crazy. This is by far the highest level of ball outside the NBA. Im willing to bet a lot and Ive said it before – Hezonja will end up top 3 player from this draft and also think his chances of reaching stardom are quite bigger than those of players like Exum or Mudiay.
0- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:55am #991772
GBeeParticipantExum actually went through the pre-draft process. Mario can’t and won’t because of his situation, so the only way he can create buzz is via those rare moments where he actually gets extended run AND plays well. That hasn’t been a common occurence this year.
If you’re inferring that Exum was overhyped last year, then I agree. To me last year’s draft had quite a few players who’s hype and projection were undeserved: Exum, Gordon, Smart, Randle. Ultimately, I think that draft will go down as a mediocre class.
But I think Mudiay has as high of a ceiling as anyone in this draft, so I can’t agree with the notion that Mario has a much greater chance at reaching superstardom compared to EM.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:55am #991631
GBeeParticipantExum actually went through the pre-draft process. Mario can’t and won’t because of his situation, so the only way he can create buzz is via those rare moments where he actually gets extended run AND plays well. That hasn’t been a common occurence this year.
If you’re inferring that Exum was overhyped last year, then I agree. To me last year’s draft had quite a few players who’s hype and projection were undeserved: Exum, Gordon, Smart, Randle. Ultimately, I think that draft will go down as a mediocre class.
But I think Mudiay has as high of a ceiling as anyone in this draft, so I can’t agree with the notion that Mario has a much greater chance at reaching superstardom compared to EM.
0- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 8:40pm #991789
TheTruth86ParticipantYes I am saying Exum was(is) overhyped. IDK about Mudiay I havent watch him in China, my point is that the level of competition is very imortant and theres great difference between facing expirienced pros in ACB and the EL and dominating skinny teens with no beards on some U18 tourney or HS gym. I think Exum made a mistake by not signing a pro deal (even in China) he would have matured, maybe his stock would have dropped but he’d grown as a player.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 8:40pm #991930
TheTruth86ParticipantYes I am saying Exum was(is) overhyped. IDK about Mudiay I havent watch him in China, my point is that the level of competition is very imortant and theres great difference between facing expirienced pros in ACB and the EL and dominating skinny teens with no beards on some U18 tourney or HS gym. I think Exum made a mistake by not signing a pro deal (even in China) he would have matured, maybe his stock would have dropped but he’d grown as a player.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 8:50pm #991791
TheTruth86ParticipantAnd about last year’s ovehyped prospects I agree with you but I would exclude Smart from the list. I am Celtics fan and really wanted him on the team. I was happy they drafted him, he had a bumpy start but later in the season he managed to show his potential esp on D. Smart is going to be a starter in this league and i hope he develops his potential into a defensive beast like Tony Allen but with a better offensive game. Peace
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 8:50pm #991932
TheTruth86ParticipantAnd about last year’s ovehyped prospects I agree with you but I would exclude Smart from the list. I am Celtics fan and really wanted him on the team. I was happy they drafted him, he had a bumpy start but later in the season he managed to show his potential esp on D. Smart is going to be a starter in this league and i hope he develops his potential into a defensive beast like Tony Allen but with a better offensive game. Peace
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:55am #991829
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:11am #991754
lakreParticipantI’ve just watched the game. He’s been insane. Deadly.
I agree with you 100%. In my mock draft, I have him going #3 to the 76ers, who are in desperate need of a go-to-guy, a star, and I really think he can contribute straight away and, with some time, become that star.
Besides, the fact of Dario Saric being a 76er in the future, makes it even more appealing.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:11am #991613
lakreParticipantI’ve just watched the game. He’s been insane. Deadly.
I agree with you 100%. In my mock draft, I have him going #3 to the 76ers, who are in desperate need of a go-to-guy, a star, and I really think he can contribute straight away and, with some time, become that star.
Besides, the fact of Dario Saric being a 76er in the future, makes it even more appealing.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:23am #991761
European BasketballerParticipantIf your consipracy theory is true about his coach only playing him a lot against better teams, then how come he was playing like 10-15 minutes when they played against Olympiacos in the Euroleague playoffs?
And don’t even attempt to claim Barca is better than Olympiacos, when Olympiacos has been in the Euroleague final 4 times in the last 6 seasons, including 3 out of the last 4, and also has won 2 of the last 4 championships. They have been by far and away the best team in all of Europe over the last 7 years actually.
So then why was Hezonja getting 10-15 minutes a game or whatever against them?
Maybe, just MAYBE, it was because he played HORRIBLY in that whole series.
STOP MAKING UP LIES ABOUT HIS COACH THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 10:23am #991619
European BasketballerParticipantIf your consipracy theory is true about his coach only playing him a lot against better teams, then how come he was playing like 10-15 minutes when they played against Olympiacos in the Euroleague playoffs?
And don’t even attempt to claim Barca is better than Olympiacos, when Olympiacos has been in the Euroleague final 4 times in the last 6 seasons, including 3 out of the last 4, and also has won 2 of the last 4 championships. They have been by far and away the best team in all of Europe over the last 7 years actually.
So then why was Hezonja getting 10-15 minutes a game or whatever against them?
Maybe, just MAYBE, it was because he played HORRIBLY in that whole series.
STOP MAKING UP LIES ABOUT HIS COACH THAT ARE NOT TRUE.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 11:07am #991780
nill650Participantwinslow is the only wing prospect close to Hezonja skills and athleticism, if stanley johnson shot like either he’s be a top 3 prospect…so to me Hezonia could easily go as high as 3 even if noone else sees it coming.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 11:07am #991639
nill650Participantwinslow is the only wing prospect close to Hezonja skills and athleticism, if stanley johnson shot like either he’s be a top 3 prospect…so to me Hezonia could easily go as high as 3 even if noone else sees it coming.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 11:49am #991803
kobyzParticipantHezonja is so overrated, i don’t understand why he’s rank higher than Oubre as a wing prospect, it’s all hero ball with Hazonia lack an advanced game, easy to read with the ball and has very low bb iq, he make his team worst with his style of play… Oubre should get drafted over him imo, to me he’s better prospect because of his defense… I know that for some reason this place very high on Hezonja is very and it’s not popular opinion…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 11:49am #991661
kobyzParticipantHezonja is so overrated, i don’t understand why he’s rank higher than Oubre as a wing prospect, it’s all hero ball with Hazonia lack an advanced game, easy to read with the ball and has very low bb iq, he make his team worst with his style of play… Oubre should get drafted over him imo, to me he’s better prospect because of his defense… I know that for some reason this place very high on Hezonja is very and it’s not popular opinion…
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 12:32am #991804
XYRYXParticipant"He makes his team worst with his style of play". ???
C’mon guy, I’m not so much into positive or negative points but smoetimes I have an idea why some posters habe fewer points than others…
personally I think he might be the most talented guy in this draft class and there are some attitude concerns about him but to me he doesn’t reall have any holes in his game. For sure he needs to work on many things but last time I checked he is a 6’8" guy who is pretty quick and strong, can shoot it from everywhere on the court and is on professional first devision teams for 7 years now. I don’t think you can really habe better surroundings growing up than that including top notch High School programs in the US like Oak Hill Academy and Mario will be a star in the NBA if you ask me. My biggest concern with him what happens to his confidence and progression, when beginning next season he might not be the biggest talent on his team or doesn’t get all the attention going forward. This might actually be new for him and if he really goes top 4 or something, the expectations will be much higher for him and this could mean trouble.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:19am #991823
kobyzParticipantI don’t care if he’s listed on the roster of some big pro team in Europe if he can’t get almost any playing time at all and he’s a banch warmer behind second round draft picks like Deshawn Thomas or other scrubs… And when you look at him play, you can see he does have nice shooting but that’s all his game, outside hero ball, his handle is sloppy, he doesn’t cut or heardly get to the rim, he doesn’t create for others, he has poor overall understanding of the game, look like the next Gerald Green, and people like to be high on kind of prospect… People neg me because unpopular opinions but I could bump this thread in the future like the one that i said that draymond green will be an impact player in the nba while he was a senior and everybody else wrote him off…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:19am #991964
kobyzParticipantI don’t care if he’s listed on the roster of some big pro team in Europe if he can’t get almost any playing time at all and he’s a banch warmer behind second round draft picks like Deshawn Thomas or other scrubs… And when you look at him play, you can see he does have nice shooting but that’s all his game, outside hero ball, his handle is sloppy, he doesn’t cut or heardly get to the rim, he doesn’t create for others, he has poor overall understanding of the game, look like the next Gerald Green, and people like to be high on kind of prospect… People neg me because unpopular opinions but I could bump this thread in the future like the one that i said that draymond green will be an impact player in the nba while he was a senior and everybody else wrote him off…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 6:57am #992008
European BasketballerParticipantHe has not been on first division teams for 7 years. Where the hell did you get that info? He played in first division BARELY at all as a third string player in GARBAGE time for like 1/3 of the season in previous 2 seasons, and rest of year was in 2nd division.
This is first year he is totally in first division and even then he is basic third string shooting guard of his team behind Juan Carlos Navarro and Brad Oleson.
If we want to talk about these players, at least bring FACTS and not total BS please.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 6:57am #991866
European BasketballerParticipantHe has not been on first division teams for 7 years. Where the hell did you get that info? He played in first division BARELY at all as a third string player in GARBAGE time for like 1/3 of the season in previous 2 seasons, and rest of year was in 2nd division.
This is first year he is totally in first division and even then he is basic third string shooting guard of his team behind Juan Carlos Navarro and Brad Oleson.
If we want to talk about these players, at least bring FACTS and not total BS please.
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- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 12:32am #991946
XYRYXParticipant"He makes his team worst with his style of play". ???
C’mon guy, I’m not so much into positive or negative points but smoetimes I have an idea why some posters habe fewer points than others…
personally I think he might be the most talented guy in this draft class and there are some attitude concerns about him but to me he doesn’t reall have any holes in his game. For sure he needs to work on many things but last time I checked he is a 6’8" guy who is pretty quick and strong, can shoot it from everywhere on the court and is on professional first devision teams for 7 years now. I don’t think you can really habe better surroundings growing up than that including top notch High School programs in the US like Oak Hill Academy and Mario will be a star in the NBA if you ask me. My biggest concern with him what happens to his confidence and progression, when beginning next season he might not be the biggest talent on his team or doesn’t get all the attention going forward. This might actually be new for him and if he really goes top 4 or something, the expectations will be much higher for him and this could mean trouble.
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:13pm #991806
NamdevParticipant - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:13pm #991665
NamdevParticipant - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:19pm #991810
froggyParticipantHe’s an intriguing prospect, an enhanced Rudy Fernandez in terms of athletism, better defender (when he feels concerned). But his profile is very very similar to many players in the league. I think his ceiling is 15pts / 4 rbds / 3 ast (Wesley Mattews at best). And I’m european so no Euro bashing here 😉
But it’s a risky choice. Ginobili (please stop saying that he is european, South America also develop great players) and Dirk both had something special that nobody had in the league. He’s just another athetic shooter with average basketball IQ. If he can develop a killer NBA-range 3pt shoot (a la Stojakovic), then he may reach all star status.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 12:19pm #991669
froggyParticipantHe’s an intriguing prospect, an enhanced Rudy Fernandez in terms of athletism, better defender (when he feels concerned). But his profile is very very similar to many players in the league. I think his ceiling is 15pts / 4 rbds / 3 ast (Wesley Mattews at best). And I’m european so no Euro bashing here 😉
But it’s a risky choice. Ginobili (please stop saying that he is european, South America also develop great players) and Dirk both had something special that nobody had in the league. He’s just another athetic shooter with average basketball IQ. If he can develop a killer NBA-range 3pt shoot (a la Stojakovic), then he may reach all star status.
0- Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:01am #992010
European BasketballerParticipantHezonja is very talented player.
However you also bring wrong facts so stop it.
1. Rudy is far more athletic than Hezonja, not the other way around. So no way have you seen Mario playing.
2. Manu was develop in Europe. He came as someone could barely play into Europe as a youth and spent years there and then went to NBA at 25. He also has Italy citizenship and his family is from Italy. So yes, he counts as European player also, and not just Argentine one.
So stop trolling please, all it does it ruin these discussions.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 7:01am #991868
European BasketballerParticipantHezonja is very talented player.
However you also bring wrong facts so stop it.
1. Rudy is far more athletic than Hezonja, not the other way around. So no way have you seen Mario playing.
2. Manu was develop in Europe. He came as someone could barely play into Europe as a youth and spent years there and then went to NBA at 25. He also has Italy citizenship and his family is from Italy. So yes, he counts as European player also, and not just Argentine one.
So stop trolling please, all it does it ruin these discussions.
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- Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 6:00pm #991880
XYRYXParticipantBoom!!!
And now the draft is getting really exciting! The Magic are a really nice fit for him but I doubt he is available there…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 6:00pm #991739
XYRYXParticipantBoom!!!
And now the draft is getting really exciting! The Magic are a really nice fit for him but I doubt he is available there…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 7:03pm #991773
rich.homie.mitchParticipantHe’s got a nice shot. Pretty quick
0 - Posted on: Fri, 06/19/2015 - 7:03pm #991915
rich.homie.mitchParticipantHe’s got a nice shot. Pretty quick
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 10:19am #992078
nill650Participantmy guess is most don’t really know enough about these intl prospects to speculate with any amount of real information… the guy has had known issues with not playing defense and so he’s been benched. his offensive skillset is second to none in this draft that includes all guards and over-hyped duke centers.
mark my words…hezonja will have a 100 million dollar contract after his first one.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 10:19am #991937
nill650Participantmy guess is most don’t really know enough about these intl prospects to speculate with any amount of real information… the guy has had known issues with not playing defense and so he’s been benched. his offensive skillset is second to none in this draft that includes all guards and over-hyped duke centers.
mark my words…hezonja will have a 100 million dollar contract after his first one.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 11:29am #992118
nill650ParticipantI just wanted to give a big shout out and say thanks for whoever keeps neg voting every post i put on here.gfy
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 11:29am #991977
nill650ParticipantI just wanted to give a big shout out and say thanks for whoever keeps neg voting every post i put on here.gfy
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:21pm #992032
Mr. 19134ParticipantHe reminds me of Paul George
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 3:21pm #992174
Mr. 19134ParticipantHe reminds me of Paul George
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 4:34pm #992052
cycloParticipantPaul George is a good comparison, but you can tell the kid has been watching tape of LeBron.
Just don’t compare him to Peja or Drazen Petrovic because of skin color. It’s not a valid comparison on the court. Hezonja can do things off the dribble and above the rim that those guys never could.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 4:34pm #992194
cycloParticipantPaul George is a good comparison, but you can tell the kid has been watching tape of LeBron.
Just don’t compare him to Peja or Drazen Petrovic because of skin color. It’s not a valid comparison on the court. Hezonja can do things off the dribble and above the rim that those guys never could.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 4:42pm #992054
CoachWyersParticipantI think Hezonja is in play with Orlando who needs shooters and is at risk of losing Tobias Harris to free agency and def. won’t slip past Sacramento, have seen Vlade Divac who is calling the shots now really likes him and that George Karl plans on playing Rudy Gay most his minutes at PF next year. I really like Hezonja and think he is going to be a star in the league with his athleticism and shooting ability. I see D’Angelo Russell as more of a wing long term than PG and think he will be best wing in the draft, but after him Hezonja and Justise Winslow are my only other can’t miss wings in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 06/20/2015 - 4:42pm #992196
CoachWyersParticipantI think Hezonja is in play with Orlando who needs shooters and is at risk of losing Tobias Harris to free agency and def. won’t slip past Sacramento, have seen Vlade Divac who is calling the shots now really likes him and that George Karl plans on playing Rudy Gay most his minutes at PF next year. I really like Hezonja and think he is going to be a star in the league with his athleticism and shooting ability. I see D’Angelo Russell as more of a wing long term than PG and think he will be best wing in the draft, but after him Hezonja and Justise Winslow are my only other can’t miss wings in this draft.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/21/2015 - 8:13am #992335
froggyParticipantGame 1 was Hezonja’s, Game 2 was Llull’s. Future Rockets players (drafted last year) scored 6/8 beyond the arc to lead Real Madrid to a 2-0 lead.
Hezonja was quite disappointing, did not have much impact on the game. But up and downs are ok for a player this young.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/21/2015 - 8:13am #992193
froggyParticipantGame 1 was Hezonja’s, Game 2 was Llull’s. Future Rockets players (drafted last year) scored 6/8 beyond the arc to lead Real Madrid to a 2-0 lead.
Hezonja was quite disappointing, did not have much impact on the game. But up and downs are ok for a player this young.
0- Posted on: Tue, 06/23/2015 - 12:14pm #993354
European BasketballerParticipantLlull was not drafted last year. He was drafted like in 2009 or something like that. There is all this talk in USA that he has already agreed with Rockets, he is for sure joining them, etc.
But, the President of Real Madrid has a 5 million euros buyout on Llull’s contract and also has the money to give him a a big raise if he wants one. So even at the money being talked abotu by Rockets in US media, which seems ridiculous, it would still be a pay cut.
Whole thing seems a bit ridiculous of a story. Especially how you would pay $24 million for a player that is not even one of the best players in Europe.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 06/23/2015 - 12:14pm #993212
European BasketballerParticipantLlull was not drafted last year. He was drafted like in 2009 or something like that. There is all this talk in USA that he has already agreed with Rockets, he is for sure joining them, etc.
But, the President of Real Madrid has a 5 million euros buyout on Llull’s contract and also has the money to give him a a big raise if he wants one. So even at the money being talked abotu by Rockets in US media, which seems ridiculous, it would still be a pay cut.
Whole thing seems a bit ridiculous of a story. Especially how you would pay $24 million for a player that is not even one of the best players in Europe.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/21/2015 - 1:07pm #992266
Bed HeadParticipantAnd the consensus (Towns, Okafor, Russell going 1-2-3) is correct, I’d be totally tempted to take Hezonja with the 4th pick. He just has a certain je ne sais quoi that the other options don’t, imo. And that sorta thing matters in NYC more than in most places.
Not saying I’d actually pull the trigger (still leaning towards Mudiay), but I would definitely be tempted to.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 06/21/2015 - 1:07pm #992408
Bed HeadParticipantAnd the consensus (Towns, Okafor, Russell going 1-2-3) is correct, I’d be totally tempted to take Hezonja with the 4th pick. He just has a certain je ne sais quoi that the other options don’t, imo. And that sorta thing matters in NYC more than in most places.
Not saying I’d actually pull the trigger (still leaning towards Mudiay), but I would definitely be tempted to.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/22/2015 - 6:56am #992614
cycloParticipantThink this kid’s been watching tape of LeBron…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCA5fThfQQ
Holy!
If the Lakers surprise and take Russell, this kid would be a great fit in Philly at #3.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 06/22/2015 - 6:56am #992473
cycloParticipantThink this kid’s been watching tape of LeBron…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0xCA5fThfQQ
Holy!
If the Lakers surprise and take Russell, this kid would be a great fit in Philly at #3.
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