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  • #60363
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    rileymcshea3
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    “And with the 14th pick of the 2015 NBA draft, the Oklahoma City Thunder select, Sam Dekker”

    The Hawks are now on the clock.

    Draft order so far
    1.Timberwolves: Karl-Anthony Towns
    2.Lakers: Jahlil Okafor
    3.76ers: D’Angelo Russell
    4.Knicks: Emmanuel Mudiay
    5.Magic: Kristaps Porzingis
    6.Kings: Willie Cauley-Stein
    7.Nuggets: Justise Winslow
    8.Pistons: Mario Hezonja
    9.Hornets: Devin Booker
    10.Heat: Stanley Johnson
    11.Pacers: Cameron Payne
    12.Jazz: Myles Turner
    13.Thunder: Sam Dekker

    Here are the results of the pick:
    Sam Dekker-16
    Kelly Oubre-9
    Jerian Grant-3
    Trey Lyles-1
    Bobby Portis-1
    Delon Wright-1
    RJ Hunter-1
    Rashad Vaughn-1
    Rondae Hollis Jefferson-1

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  • #990352
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    Dgtool2
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     Oubre

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  • #990207
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    Dgtool2
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     Oubre

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  • #990209
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     I’m not sure the hawks will be able to keep Millsap this summer. Even if they do, I’m not sure antic and Mike Scott are quality rotation guys off the bench. I think they go with a big here and Trey lyles is the best fit of the players left on the board I think.

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  • #990354
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     I’m not sure the hawks will be able to keep Millsap this summer. Even if they do, I’m not sure antic and Mike Scott are quality rotation guys off the bench. I think they go with a big here and Trey lyles is the best fit of the players left on the board I think.

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  • #990211
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     Trey Lyles (2)

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  • #990356
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     Trey Lyles (2)

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  • #990213
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     Paul Millsap is a FA and I have a feeling he might be leaving this summer. Trey gives them a skilled/versatile big similar to Millsap. I think would be a good fit in Bud’s system. 

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  • #990358
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     Paul Millsap is a FA and I have a feeling he might be leaving this summer. Trey gives them a skilled/versatile big similar to Millsap. I think would be a good fit in Bud’s system. 

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  • #990215
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     I want a big man but I’m not convince that kamisky is the answer.  I would love for us to draft Turner. He plays similar to al and we could really use a paint protector.  I would like to see U.S. trade up and try to grab him if the price isn’t unreasonable. If not then grab oubre. He could learn some nice things playing behind korver and sefolosha and possibly Carroll if the Hawks can sign him.

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  • #990360
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     I want a big man but I’m not convince that kamisky is the answer.  I would love for us to draft Turner. He plays similar to al and we could really use a paint protector.  I would like to see U.S. trade up and try to grab him if the price isn’t unreasonable. If not then grab oubre. He could learn some nice things playing behind korver and sefolosha and possibly Carroll if the Hawks can sign him.

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  • #990217
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    Kaminsky fits well with Atlanta who is looking to contend again next season.  Millsap is not a guarantee to return for them next season.  He’s not the defender or shot blocker Atlanta needs but he’s the best fit left on the board.  

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    • #990233
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      EDIT:  Didn’t notice that the Suns pick was missing.  With Kaminsky off the board I’ll change my pick to Trey Lyles.  He’s not the same shooter that Kaminsky is but he’s got potential.   

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    • #990378
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      EDIT:  Didn’t notice that the Suns pick was missing.  With Kaminsky off the board I’ll change my pick to Trey Lyles.  He’s not the same shooter that Kaminsky is but he’s got potential.   

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  • #990362
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    Kaminsky fits well with Atlanta who is looking to contend again next season.  Millsap is not a guarantee to return for them next season.  He’s not the defender or shot blocker Atlanta needs but he’s the best fit left on the board.  

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  • #990221
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     Kaminsky

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  • #990366
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    zer0d0ubt

     Kaminsky

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  • #990227
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    Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers
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     I thought kaminsky was already off the board.

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    • #990231
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      BleedGreen808
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       Good catch.  I went back and found he was taken by the Suns at 13.  

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    • #990376
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      BleedGreen808
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       Good catch.  I went back and found he was taken by the Suns at 13.  

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  • #990372
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     I thought kaminsky was already off the board.

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  • #990229
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    What happened to the SUNS pick?

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  • #990374
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    What happened to the SUNS pick?

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  • #990235
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    hbomb3300
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    Trey Lyles

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  • #990380
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    hbomb3300
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    Trey Lyles

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  • #990237
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    ExumInferno
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     Kelly Oubre

    A very tough team to pick for, they need to win now and they also have free agents decisions.  Nearly went Portis, but if Millsap and Antic return and they bring over Tavares, they have some size.  Nearly went RJ Hunter, they play in a way that gets open shots so him along with Korver would mean great shooting.  Oubre gives them depth at small forward, or a replacement of D Carroll is too expensive.

     

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  • #990382
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     Kelly Oubre

    A very tough team to pick for, they need to win now and they also have free agents decisions.  Nearly went Portis, but if Millsap and Antic return and they bring over Tavares, they have some size.  Nearly went RJ Hunter, they play in a way that gets open shots so him along with Korver would mean great shooting.  Oubre gives them depth at small forward, or a replacement of D Carroll is too expensive.

     

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  • #990239
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    BogDon_Krypt
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    Dakari johnson

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    BogDon_Krypt
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    Dakari johnson

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  • #990247
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Portis

    Suns to Kaminsky at 13.  Dekker was #14

    Just a mistake numbering.  

    BTW thank you.  I am enjoying this game.

     

     

     

     

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  • #990392
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     Portis

    Suns to Kaminsky at 13.  Dekker was #14

    Just a mistake numbering.  

    BTW thank you.  I am enjoying this game.

     

     

     

     

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  • #990243
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Portis

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #990388
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Portis

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #990245
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Thanks for doing this I am enjoying this game.

     

     

     

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  • #990390
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     Thanks for doing this I am enjoying this game.

     

     

     

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  • #990259
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    If he’s willing to put the work in, this is probably the best place for him to reach his ceiling. He can spend a year or 2 learning behind true professionals (Korver, Carroll, Thabo, Bazemore) who can help him in polishing different aspects of the game, and a system that can put him in a great position to succeed. He can learn how to attack closeouts from Bazemore, how to create good looks from himself by always moving from Korver, how to play disciplined man defense from Sefolosha, & how to cut on the baseline from Carroll. By year 3 he could be a key contributor on a really good team.

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  • #990404
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    If he’s willing to put the work in, this is probably the best place for him to reach his ceiling. He can spend a year or 2 learning behind true professionals (Korver, Carroll, Thabo, Bazemore) who can help him in polishing different aspects of the game, and a system that can put him in a great position to succeed. He can learn how to attack closeouts from Bazemore, how to create good looks from himself by always moving from Korver, how to play disciplined man defense from Sefolosha, & how to cut on the baseline from Carroll. By year 3 he could be a key contributor on a really good team.

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  • #990271
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    llperez

    Looney

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  • #990416
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    llperez

    Looney

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  • #990301
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    Trilla
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     Oubre is intruiging given his sheer talent and potential, but they already have a couple young, long wings. Lyles makes so much sense, is a younger, more skilled version of Adrien Payne, who they drafted and later traded for a future 1st this year. Can see him really developing into a Millsap- esque type of player under MB.

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  • #990446
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    Trilla
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     Oubre is intruiging given his sheer talent and potential, but they already have a couple young, long wings. Lyles makes so much sense, is a younger, more skilled version of Adrien Payne, who they drafted and later traded for a future 1st this year. Can see him really developing into a Millsap- esque type of player under MB.

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  • #990303
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    Pacersfan22
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     The Hawks may lose Paul Milsap in free agency so they draft his insurance in Bobby Portis.

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  • #990448
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    Pacersfan22
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     The Hawks may lose Paul Milsap in free agency so they draft his insurance in Bobby Portis.

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  • #990317
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    MorseWill
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     Oubre, high upside for a team who could use another potential star with time for him to improve behind Korver and Carroll for now

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  • #990462
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    MorseWill
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     Oubre, high upside for a team who could use another potential star with time for him to improve behind Korver and Carroll for now

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  • #990464
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    Kelly Oubre… There aren’t any great defensive rebounders in the middle of the draft and they’ll probably re-sign Millsap, so upside pick!

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  • #990319
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    Kelly Oubre… There aren’t any great defensive rebounders in the middle of the draft and they’ll probably re-sign Millsap, so upside pick!

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  • #990480
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    While I think passing on Oubre would be tough, to me, Bobby Portis is a guy who fits both their system and a clear need; regardless of what happens with Milsap. I like Portis here.

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  • #990335
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    While I think passing on Oubre would be tough, to me, Bobby Portis is a guy who fits both their system and a clear need; regardless of what happens with Milsap. I like Portis here.

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  • #990500
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     Probably not a common pick, but I think it’s the best fit for them. Budenholzer seems to prefer system fits over pure talent, and Harrell is just that. They need rebounding in a big way, and seem very high on mental toughness, finding and developing a crucial role for DeMarre Carroll for his intensity. They also probably don’t seem to mind having a slightly undersized PF like Harrell, as Millsap was just that, and they still sought him out. Lyles is the higher potential option, but it’s hard to believe the Hawks won’t like the scrappy Harrell instead, especially since he brings a bit more to the table in the short term, which might come in handy if they are not able to afford keeping Millsap this summer 

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  • #990355
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     Probably not a common pick, but I think it’s the best fit for them. Budenholzer seems to prefer system fits over pure talent, and Harrell is just that. They need rebounding in a big way, and seem very high on mental toughness, finding and developing a crucial role for DeMarre Carroll for his intensity. They also probably don’t seem to mind having a slightly undersized PF like Harrell, as Millsap was just that, and they still sought him out. Lyles is the higher potential option, but it’s hard to believe the Hawks won’t like the scrappy Harrell instead, especially since he brings a bit more to the table in the short term, which might come in handy if they are not able to afford keeping Millsap this summer 

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  • #990535
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    Portis

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    Portis

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  • #990581
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    Mr. HookShot
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    Rondae Hollis Jefferson; although slightly surprising be will be the replacement of Carroll who will get  a massive offer sheet this summer. Considering the Hawks have more important needs (Millsap) they won’t match and thus lose Carroll. RHJ will slowly develop in a solid offensive player, next to his impact he already will have on defense. 

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  • #990437
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    Rondae Hollis Jefferson; although slightly surprising be will be the replacement of Carroll who will get  a massive offer sheet this summer. Considering the Hawks have more important needs (Millsap) they won’t match and thus lose Carroll. RHJ will slowly develop in a solid offensive player, next to his impact he already will have on defense. 

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  • #990585
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     He could replace Millsap if he does leave atlanta. Lyles provides them that outside shooting they need and he fits into Bud’s system.

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  • #990441
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    Zouldiers
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     He could replace Millsap if he does leave atlanta. Lyles provides them that outside shooting they need and he fits into Bud’s system.

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  • #990485
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     Bobby Portis is BPA. Can back up power forward for now and is a solid 2 way player. Good insurance in case Millsap leaves. 

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  • #990629
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     Bobby Portis is BPA. Can back up power forward for now and is a solid 2 way player. Good insurance in case Millsap leaves. 

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  • #990493
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     Oubre who is then traded to nets for mason plumlee, mirza teletoviz and 29th pick…

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    kobyz
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     Oubre who is then traded to nets for mason plumlee, mirza teletoviz and 29th pick…

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  • #990550
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    Based strictly on need, Atlanta should take Trey Lyles, who has a higher upside and is more versatile (at least in theory) than Portis.

    However, I’m jumping all over Oubre (BPA by far). While also thanking the two teams picking previous to me for their incredible idiocy.

     

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  • #990694
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    Based strictly on need, Atlanta should take Trey Lyles, who has a higher upside and is more versatile (at least in theory) than Portis.

    However, I’m jumping all over Oubre (BPA by far). While also thanking the two teams picking previous to me for their incredible idiocy.

     

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  • #990819
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     Kelly Oubre

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  • #990676
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     Kelly Oubre

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  • #990829
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     Portis

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     Portis

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  • #990812
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    It’ll be out of Portis or Oubre. If the Hawks are looking long term, Oubre is too much to resist. He’s raw but he can be shaped into something special. But I think the Hawks are all about the present, so I’m going with Portis. The guy just brings too much to the table. Good size, fluid athlete, rebounding, offense, good BBIQ and a strong motor. I honestly don’t see a scenario where this guy doesn’t work out for the Hawks. Ideally, I hope Hawks find a way to get him AND Rashad Vaughn out of this draft.

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  • #990955
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    It’ll be out of Portis or Oubre. If the Hawks are looking long term, Oubre is too much to resist. He’s raw but he can be shaped into something special. But I think the Hawks are all about the present, so I’m going with Portis. The guy just brings too much to the table. Good size, fluid athlete, rebounding, offense, good BBIQ and a strong motor. I honestly don’t see a scenario where this guy doesn’t work out for the Hawks. Ideally, I hope Hawks find a way to get him AND Rashad Vaughn out of this draft.

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  • #991005
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     Oubre I think will fit well with them.

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    WinterSoldier
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     Oubre I think will fit well with them.

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  • #991077
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    rileymcshea3
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     Kelly Oubre

    Oubre would really thrive in the Hawks system. In the Spur like offense Oubre can hit 3s and drive to the basket in the open court offense the Hawks have. Oubre says he watches Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leanord film, and thinks being a athletic wing playing defense, rebounding, and running the court for open baskets is the new Wing breed. Hawks would give him a good chance to full fill his potential.

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     Kelly Oubre

    Oubre would really thrive in the Hawks system. In the Spur like offense Oubre can hit 3s and drive to the basket in the open court offense the Hawks have. Oubre says he watches Jimmy Butler and Kawhi Leanord film, and thinks being a athletic wing playing defense, rebounding, and running the court for open baskets is the new Wing breed. Hawks would give him a good chance to full fill his potential.

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