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  • #60303
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    ZachAttack
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     So, earlier today I was listening to the Big Show with Spence Checkets and Gordon Monson. It’s a Utah sports radio show. And in the middle of their show, they had a breaking news story that the Jazz would be ¨actively pursue¨ Paul Millsap. Honestly, I love Paul and I think he was a great leader back on the team. But being from Utah and watching every game last season, I just don’t think that they have a place for him on this young up and coming Jazz team. They talked about him playing the 3 on the show and I don’t think he’s quick enough to play that position. The Jazz definitely aren’t looking to sit Gobert or Favors, and Millsap won’t come off the bench as he’s an all star, and he said that he wouldn’t come off the bench. I think that it’d be interesting to see what coach Quin could make of this if some deal does go down. But, as much as I hate to say this, I just don’t think there’s room for him on this Jazz team. My question here is… Do you think it’s a smart move for the Jazz to pick up Millsap in free agency? Why/Why not? What position and how often would he play if the Jazz get him?

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  • #988983
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    WinterSoldier
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     I completely agree with you. I love Millsap but he is part of the Jazz past not our future. 

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  • #988832
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    WinterSoldier
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     I completely agree with you. I love Millsap but he is part of the Jazz past not our future. 

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  • #988985
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    pe3ucTop
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    It only makes sense if Millsap would be willing to come off the bench in a 3 man rotation(still getting about starter minutes), if he’s willing to make a discount for the Jazz(because otherwise they can’t afford him), and if he’s willing to leave a 60 wins teams for a still rebuilding one in the west. In other words, I don’t really see this happening but if it did, we’d have one of the best bigs rotations in the league.

    If he’s willing to make all those compromises I think he’d fit perfectly with the team. He can play with both Favors and Gobert and can be the playmaking 4 for the Jazz with both of them, and he can stretch the floor for them. He also still seems to have great relationship with a lot of people in the organization and seems to like Utah, and he’s on the record crediting Quin Snyder for a lot of his improvements in his first years in Atlanta. He also will be united with his brother Elijah who’s with the Jazz as well… In other words, there are some minor sentimental circumstances that might make Utah more desirable situation for him, but again – this all relies on him being willing to make some serious compromises.

    In general I don’t see this happening. The main factors in players deciding where to continue their career seem to be money, role on the team, and ability of the team to contend. I don’t think Utah wins on any of those, with the exception of possibly the last one(maybe he thinks Utah’s future is brighter than Atlanta’s) and even this one is a stretch.

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  • #988834
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    It only makes sense if Millsap would be willing to come off the bench in a 3 man rotation(still getting about starter minutes), if he’s willing to make a discount for the Jazz(because otherwise they can’t afford him), and if he’s willing to leave a 60 wins teams for a still rebuilding one in the west. In other words, I don’t really see this happening but if it did, we’d have one of the best bigs rotations in the league.

    If he’s willing to make all those compromises I think he’d fit perfectly with the team. He can play with both Favors and Gobert and can be the playmaking 4 for the Jazz with both of them, and he can stretch the floor for them. He also still seems to have great relationship with a lot of people in the organization and seems to like Utah, and he’s on the record crediting Quin Snyder for a lot of his improvements in his first years in Atlanta. He also will be united with his brother Elijah who’s with the Jazz as well… In other words, there are some minor sentimental circumstances that might make Utah more desirable situation for him, but again – this all relies on him being willing to make some serious compromises.

    In general I don’t see this happening. The main factors in players deciding where to continue their career seem to be money, role on the team, and ability of the team to contend. I don’t think Utah wins on any of those, with the exception of possibly the last one(maybe he thinks Utah’s future is brighter than Atlanta’s) and even this one is a stretch.

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  • #988991
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     I would say this has no merit, but we’re watching a team in the finals with Andre Iguadala coming off the bench, and I view Milsap in the same category as Iggy. 

    I think if a player 100% buys into an organization, than it could be a smart move for both the team and the player to reunite. Ginobali did it for the Spurs to great success. Harden for the Thunder. Monta in GS. 

    I don’t think it’s likely, but it would be a great move for the Jazz who really aren’t rebuilding any more. Hayward, Favors, and Burks are all on their second contracts, and they are looking to compete. A lineup of

    Gobert

    Favors-Milsap

    Hayward

    Burks-Hood

    Exum-Burkes

    Is an absolutely deadly rotation with tons of shooting, rebounding, versatility, and size. Hayward and Favors are all-star caliber players in my opinion, and adding another all-star to the backcourt would do wonders for the Jazz. All they would need is experience, and who knows, maybe they trade for a veteran PG like Mo Williams or Brandon Jennings who could be had. Add an experienced PG to the above rotation, and I could see the Jazz being a 50 win team no doubt.

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  • #988840
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    mgreener_34
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     I would say this has no merit, but we’re watching a team in the finals with Andre Iguadala coming off the bench, and I view Milsap in the same category as Iggy. 

    I think if a player 100% buys into an organization, than it could be a smart move for both the team and the player to reunite. Ginobali did it for the Spurs to great success. Harden for the Thunder. Monta in GS. 

    I don’t think it’s likely, but it would be a great move for the Jazz who really aren’t rebuilding any more. Hayward, Favors, and Burks are all on their second contracts, and they are looking to compete. A lineup of

    Gobert

    Favors-Milsap

    Hayward

    Burks-Hood

    Exum-Burkes

    Is an absolutely deadly rotation with tons of shooting, rebounding, versatility, and size. Hayward and Favors are all-star caliber players in my opinion, and adding another all-star to the backcourt would do wonders for the Jazz. All they would need is experience, and who knows, maybe they trade for a veteran PG like Mo Williams or Brandon Jennings who could be had. Add an experienced PG to the above rotation, and I could see the Jazz being a 50 win team no doubt.

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  • #989012
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    I completely disagree and think you guys are underrating Paul Millsap. He is a true NBA Allstar. Everything he does on the court he does it to make sure his team wins. His mobility and ability to play SF has gotten even better since he has been at Atlanta and he even said Quin Snyder was a big help in that. In the NBA today you cannot pass up services from a player as good as Millsap.

     Best case scenario it works and the Jazz start winning games. Worst case scerio it doesn’t work and the Jazz have a great trade asset and acquire at least a 1st round pick, especially with the cap increasing and so many teams out there will be shopping.

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  • #988862
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    OhCanada-
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    I completely disagree and think you guys are underrating Paul Millsap. He is a true NBA Allstar. Everything he does on the court he does it to make sure his team wins. His mobility and ability to play SF has gotten even better since he has been at Atlanta and he even said Quin Snyder was a big help in that. In the NBA today you cannot pass up services from a player as good as Millsap.

     Best case scenario it works and the Jazz start winning games. Worst case scerio it doesn’t work and the Jazz have a great trade asset and acquire at least a 1st round pick, especially with the cap increasing and so many teams out there will be shopping.

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    • #989036
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       If that was the worst case scenerio I would be fine with it. The problem is that I don’t see Millsap being happy coming off the bench. If he was two or three years out of his prime he would be ok with it but he is a Allstar. Favors is our future and we have to think in terms of what’s in his best interest. Millsap is very skilled but he can not play the SF position for a full game. 

      I am little surprised that you wouldn’t want him as a Raptors fan. I could be way off but I thought that was a position of need for your team.

       

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    • #988886
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       If that was the worst case scenerio I would be fine with it. The problem is that I don’t see Millsap being happy coming off the bench. If he was two or three years out of his prime he would be ok with it but he is a Allstar. Favors is our future and we have to think in terms of what’s in his best interest. Millsap is very skilled but he can not play the SF position for a full game. 

      I am little surprised that you wouldn’t want him as a Raptors fan. I could be way off but I thought that was a position of need for your team.

       

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  • #989042
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    SwatLakeCity
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     I love Paul Millsap, and I would love it if my favorite team actually did sign him back on, but I just don’t think it’s feasible for a couple reasons. Most of these reasons were already mentioned in this forum. So among others, Millsap is due to receive the max, and if the Jazz intend to do this they have to release all of their nonguaranteed contract including Millsap’s brother Elijah. Once they do that they will only be able to offer Paul 16.8mil (I believe that’s what the article said when I read it.) 16.8 mil when the offers he will be receiving from other teams with more money in free agency to spend will probably be around 18 mil. And don’t forget the Hawks will be able to re-sign him also for around 18 mil. So like Pe3ucTop said, Millsap would have to make some serious compromises to come back. It could happen in the future (like 3-5 years down the road, when Millsap is a veteran that is about ready to retire). 

    http://www.ksl.com/

    Also with that in mind, 16.8 mil is practically starters money, do the Jazz really want to spend starters money on player that’s going to come off the bench behind Favors and Gobert? I sure wouldn’t want to. Use that money elsewhere. Use it to help bring over Tibor Pliess. 

    Also isn’t this why the Jazz signed Trevor Booker last off-season to a two-year contract; to provide a Paul Millsap esque presence off the bench? He’s actually a pretty good backup to Favors. they just need a better backup to Gobert. Millsap can’t play Center when he’s only 6’8. True, he can play the 3 and he has gotten better at it, and since he’ll be coming off the bench behind Hayward in that case, he doesn’t need to be that fast. But again why would you give starters money to player who will end up playing on the bench?

    Don’t get me wrong Millsap is not a bad player. He has certainly proved himself. He is a starter, that can also provide you some veteran minutes. But because of the Jazz’s team makeup, there just isn’t room for him on the team right now. But there might be in 3-5 years down the road.

     

     

     

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  • #988892
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    SwatLakeCity
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     I love Paul Millsap, and I would love it if my favorite team actually did sign him back on, but I just don’t think it’s feasible for a couple reasons. Most of these reasons were already mentioned in this forum. So among others, Millsap is due to receive the max, and if the Jazz intend to do this they have to release all of their nonguaranteed contract including Millsap’s brother Elijah. Once they do that they will only be able to offer Paul 16.8mil (I believe that’s what the article said when I read it.) 16.8 mil when the offers he will be receiving from other teams with more money in free agency to spend will probably be around 18 mil. And don’t forget the Hawks will be able to re-sign him also for around 18 mil. So like Pe3ucTop said, Millsap would have to make some serious compromises to come back. It could happen in the future (like 3-5 years down the road, when Millsap is a veteran that is about ready to retire). 

    http://www.ksl.com/

    Also with that in mind, 16.8 mil is practically starters money, do the Jazz really want to spend starters money on player that’s going to come off the bench behind Favors and Gobert? I sure wouldn’t want to. Use that money elsewhere. Use it to help bring over Tibor Pliess. 

    Also isn’t this why the Jazz signed Trevor Booker last off-season to a two-year contract; to provide a Paul Millsap esque presence off the bench? He’s actually a pretty good backup to Favors. they just need a better backup to Gobert. Millsap can’t play Center when he’s only 6’8. True, he can play the 3 and he has gotten better at it, and since he’ll be coming off the bench behind Hayward in that case, he doesn’t need to be that fast. But again why would you give starters money to player who will end up playing on the bench?

    Don’t get me wrong Millsap is not a bad player. He has certainly proved himself. He is a starter, that can also provide you some veteran minutes. But because of the Jazz’s team makeup, there just isn’t room for him on the team right now. But there might be in 3-5 years down the road.

     

     

     

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  • #989044
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     I don’t see Millsap really returning to the Jazz especially if the consensus is that Favors and Gobert are the starters at 4 and 5. Paul is a double All Star from a 60 win team so I don’t see him taking a lesser role on a developing team unless the Jazz decided to start with him and one of Favors or Stifle Tower.

    Also Paul I heard only took a 2 year deal in 2013 in order to have another shot at a major deal. He’d be giving up a fair bit of money to leave Atlanta and would need to go to a team offering him a real shot at winning a title I’d assume. He’s had decent deals already but at 30 he wants to be on a relevant team I’d guess as he is likely at his peak at the moment.

    For teams with cap space and wanting to win now, I’d imagine Paul would be fairly high on a lot of FA lists given his experience, durability, skill etc. He would be seen as possibly a safer signing than someone who was signed for upside.

    He will have chances to chase titles as a bench veteran later in his career if he so wishes too.

    According to Hoopshype a max deal for Paul would start at over $18.5 million a year so he will likely get some very good offers over the next month or so.

     

     

     

     

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  • #988894
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     I don’t see Millsap really returning to the Jazz especially if the consensus is that Favors and Gobert are the starters at 4 and 5. Paul is a double All Star from a 60 win team so I don’t see him taking a lesser role on a developing team unless the Jazz decided to start with him and one of Favors or Stifle Tower.

    Also Paul I heard only took a 2 year deal in 2013 in order to have another shot at a major deal. He’d be giving up a fair bit of money to leave Atlanta and would need to go to a team offering him a real shot at winning a title I’d assume. He’s had decent deals already but at 30 he wants to be on a relevant team I’d guess as he is likely at his peak at the moment.

    For teams with cap space and wanting to win now, I’d imagine Paul would be fairly high on a lot of FA lists given his experience, durability, skill etc. He would be seen as possibly a safer signing than someone who was signed for upside.

    He will have chances to chase titles as a bench veteran later in his career if he so wishes too.

    According to Hoopshype a max deal for Paul would start at over $18.5 million a year so he will likely get some very good offers over the next month or so.

     

     

     

     

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  • #989048
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    Tyrober
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     I know Paul doesn’t want to come off the bench, but he would be so great coming off the bench on the Jazz. He is going to get paid this summer and as nice of a thought of him coming back home is I just do not see it happening.

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  • #988898
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    Tyrober
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     I know Paul doesn’t want to come off the bench, but he would be so great coming off the bench on the Jazz. He is going to get paid this summer and as nice of a thought of him coming back home is I just do not see it happening.

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  • #989072
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     With the TV money going up, Paul could of course sign a deal this year with a player option next summer if he wanted to try and get an even better deal next summer or to keep options open.

    If he went back to Utah then the 3 man big rotation would mean Paul played PF with Favors flipped between PF and C with Gobert playing C whilst on court.

    Some players care about starting and some don’t, Utah could easily start Favors and Millsap for example with the younger Gobert from the bench. But the issue might be Gobert would be needed for a lot of initial match ups against opposition bigs before Utah moved to a slightly smaller line up so he may really need to start.

     

     

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  • #988922
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     With the TV money going up, Paul could of course sign a deal this year with a player option next summer if he wanted to try and get an even better deal next summer or to keep options open.

    If he went back to Utah then the 3 man big rotation would mean Paul played PF with Favors flipped between PF and C with Gobert playing C whilst on court.

    Some players care about starting and some don’t, Utah could easily start Favors and Millsap for example with the younger Gobert from the bench. But the issue might be Gobert would be needed for a lot of initial match ups against opposition bigs before Utah moved to a slightly smaller line up so he may really need to start.

     

     

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  • #988928
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    David Lee was rumored to Utah at the trade deadline. I think he’d be a more realistic option. 

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  • #989078
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    Numbers_Cruncher
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    David Lee was rumored to Utah at the trade deadline. I think he’d be a more realistic option. 

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  • #988944
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    KHAM83
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     A few responses and questions.

     If Milsap was to "take a pay cut" for the chance of winning, wouldn’t he just do that for Atlanta instead?

     

    GS wants to rid themselves of Lee’s contract to resign Greene. I like Lee to Jazz, but they do not have the space to absorb his contract 

     

    Offensively, how effective is the Favors-Gobert combo? I "assume" they are both strictly post players and will not work. I didn’t watch a Jazz game so please correct me if I’m wrong.

    Is Exum truly a pg? I always thought he was a combo sg. Is he your future pg or sg? I always liked Alec Burks and would love him in Atl if you need to put Exum at sg eventually.

     

     

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    • #988952
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      It would work if the Warriors took back Booker.  

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      • #988958
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        KHAM83
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         You’re thinking of the Jazz cap situation right now, but remember Burks’ new contract kicks in after this season. I don’t think the Jazz will have any cap space, even considering the new higher cap. I could be wrong, not in the position at the moment to Google around.

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      • #989108
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        KHAM83
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         You’re thinking of the Jazz cap situation right now, but remember Burks’ new contract kicks in after this season. I don’t think the Jazz will have any cap space, even considering the new higher cap. I could be wrong, not in the position at the moment to Google around.

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    • #989102
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      It would work if the Warriors took back Booker.  

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    • #988962
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      chrispaulwall
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       Favors has been working on his midrange jumper, makes them at a solid clip. I think that’s his main source of improvement this summer since Gobert has solidified himself at the 5 

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    • #989112
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       Favors has been working on his midrange jumper, makes them at a solid clip. I think that’s his main source of improvement this summer since Gobert has solidified himself at the 5 

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    • #989315
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      SwatLakeCity
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       I consider Exum more of a combo SG like you do, but being a Jazz fan and seeing how he was used most of the time in lineups, he was mostly used as a PG. At first he backed up Burke, and then when Burke, Coach Snyder decided to try something different and start Exum and moved Burke to the 6th man role off the bench. So, no it looks like Exum is the PG for the Jazz, so we won’t be needing to move Burks or Trey anytime soon. 

      The Favors-Gobert combo is excellent, better than I expected. Favors’ offensive game has really progressed. He can now hit the outside shot. Its not golden on offense like I would expect it, but I think with time it will get there. The defense is really super good, and that’s what is just astounding and really what was frustrating most opponents after the all star break. The offense like I said needs work, but its not as bad as most would think. True, Favors will never develop a 3 point shot but he can hit the outside jumper. That’s why Hayward, Exum, Trey, Alec, and Hood are there to space the floor our post combo to work. Mostly it is Hayward, Trey and Hood hitting the 3’s but Alec and Exum are getting there. Alec just needs more time since he’s gotten injured so many times, and Exum of course needs more time too since he’s only a rookie.

      If the Warriors are willing to take back Booker, then I think the Jazz will have enough space to absorb Lee’s contract.

      You are partly right about Millsap accepting more of paycut. He would accept a paycut to stay in Atlanta over whoever else tries to sign him. But he would be accepting more of a paycut to move back to Utah because the Jazz can only at max offer 16.8 mil. Other teams will offer Millsap in the neighborhood of 18-19 mil, while the Hawks will be able to offer slightly less than that but still much more than 16.8 mil.

       

       

       

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    • #989167
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      SwatLakeCity
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       I consider Exum more of a combo SG like you do, but being a Jazz fan and seeing how he was used most of the time in lineups, he was mostly used as a PG. At first he backed up Burke, and then when Burke, Coach Snyder decided to try something different and start Exum and moved Burke to the 6th man role off the bench. So, no it looks like Exum is the PG for the Jazz, so we won’t be needing to move Burks or Trey anytime soon. 

      The Favors-Gobert combo is excellent, better than I expected. Favors’ offensive game has really progressed. He can now hit the outside shot. Its not golden on offense like I would expect it, but I think with time it will get there. The defense is really super good, and that’s what is just astounding and really what was frustrating most opponents after the all star break. The offense like I said needs work, but its not as bad as most would think. True, Favors will never develop a 3 point shot but he can hit the outside jumper. That’s why Hayward, Exum, Trey, Alec, and Hood are there to space the floor our post combo to work. Mostly it is Hayward, Trey and Hood hitting the 3’s but Alec and Exum are getting there. Alec just needs more time since he’s gotten injured so many times, and Exum of course needs more time too since he’s only a rookie.

      If the Warriors are willing to take back Booker, then I think the Jazz will have enough space to absorb Lee’s contract.

      You are partly right about Millsap accepting more of paycut. He would accept a paycut to stay in Atlanta over whoever else tries to sign him. But he would be accepting more of a paycut to move back to Utah because the Jazz can only at max offer 16.8 mil. Other teams will offer Millsap in the neighborhood of 18-19 mil, while the Hawks will be able to offer slightly less than that but still much more than 16.8 mil.

       

       

       

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  • #989094
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    KHAM83
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     A few responses and questions.

     If Milsap was to "take a pay cut" for the chance of winning, wouldn’t he just do that for Atlanta instead?

     

    GS wants to rid themselves of Lee’s contract to resign Greene. I like Lee to Jazz, but they do not have the space to absorb his contract 

     

    Offensively, how effective is the Favors-Gobert combo? I "assume" they are both strictly post players and will not work. I didn’t watch a Jazz game so please correct me if I’m wrong.

    Is Exum truly a pg? I always thought he was a combo sg. Is he your future pg or sg? I always liked Alec Burks and would love him in Atl if you need to put Exum at sg eventually.

     

     

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  • #988946
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    As a long time Jazz fan I’m not excited about the idea of Milsap returning, I like Paul and hope for the best for him but he really doesn’t fit now. He can play some 3 but not enough, he brings a lot of things to the table that are enticing but our young players need to continue to develop as starters/leaders. There were only 6 teams I think after the all star break that had better records than the Jazz,(19&6)(I think) they have high expectation for this next year . They don’t want to skip steps in the development process and they will be careful who they bring in.

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    • #988956
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      Sewok15
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      The Jazz lost 10 games after the All Star break…but that was still a pretty strong second half of the season. They are still a couple years or players away from competing in the loaded West though…it isn’t like any of the teams out there are going to be much weaker and we know that OKC is going to come back strong.

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      • #988972
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        chrispaulwall
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         disagree. I see the mavericks and blazers falling out of contention with Utah and OKC taking their spots

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        • #989317
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          SwatLakeCity
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           and don’t forget the Spurs. They are getting weaker, especially since Duncan and Pop might have just spent their last year together. I don’t see the Blazers falling out of contention (unless Aldridge leaves) so right now I’ll put them as a question mark. Here are the teams I expect to be in the playoffs next year:

          1. Warriors
          2. Rockets
          3. Clippers
          4. OKC
          5. Grizzlies
          6. Jazz
          7. Blazers???
          8. Pelicans

          That was in no particular order. If the Blazers do lose Aldridge, then I expect the Suns to make it in their place.

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        • #989169
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          SwatLakeCity
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           and don’t forget the Spurs. They are getting weaker, especially since Duncan and Pop might have just spent their last year together. I don’t see the Blazers falling out of contention (unless Aldridge leaves) so right now I’ll put them as a question mark. Here are the teams I expect to be in the playoffs next year:

          1. Warriors
          2. Rockets
          3. Clippers
          4. OKC
          5. Grizzlies
          6. Jazz
          7. Blazers???
          8. Pelicans

          That was in no particular order. If the Blazers do lose Aldridge, then I expect the Suns to make it in their place.

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          • #989256
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            chrispaulwall
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             I hear you but I refuse to count out the Spurs. I feel like New Orleans is gonna make a huge jump with Davis improving every year.

             

            i got 

            1. OKC

            2.GSW

            3. HOU

            4.NOP

            5. LAC

            6. SAS 

            7. MEM

            8. UTAH

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          • #989403
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            chrispaulwall
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             I hear you but I refuse to count out the Spurs. I feel like New Orleans is gonna make a huge jump with Davis improving every year.

             

            i got 

            1. OKC

            2.GSW

            3. HOU

            4.NOP

            5. LAC

            6. SAS 

            7. MEM

            8. UTAH

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      • #989122
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        chrispaulwall
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         disagree. I see the mavericks and blazers falling out of contention with Utah and OKC taking their spots

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    • #989106
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      Sewok15
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      The Jazz lost 10 games after the All Star break…but that was still a pretty strong second half of the season. They are still a couple years or players away from competing in the loaded West though…it isn’t like any of the teams out there are going to be much weaker and we know that OKC is going to come back strong.

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  • #989096
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    As a long time Jazz fan I’m not excited about the idea of Milsap returning, I like Paul and hope for the best for him but he really doesn’t fit now. He can play some 3 but not enough, he brings a lot of things to the table that are enticing but our young players need to continue to develop as starters/leaders. There were only 6 teams I think after the all star break that had better records than the Jazz,(19&6)(I think) they have high expectation for this next year . They don’t want to skip steps in the development process and they will be careful who they bring in.

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     Why would Paul Millsap take a paycut to come off the bench for the Utah Jazz? If he doesnt resign with Atlanta he will have plenty of options 

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    • #989206
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      I   doubt Paul will come back but a couple of reason he might consider it is he likes Utah and the Jazz, and his little brother is with them at the moment and he may want to ensure he stays by saying I’ll come back if you keep little brother on the team. That’s probably not a real possibility but it’s a thought.

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      I   doubt Paul will come back but a couple of reason he might consider it is he likes Utah and the Jazz, and his little brother is with them at the moment and he may want to ensure he stays by saying I’ll come back if you keep little brother on the team. That’s probably not a real possibility but it’s a thought.

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     Why would Paul Millsap take a paycut to come off the bench for the Utah Jazz? If he doesnt resign with Atlanta he will have plenty of options 

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     Atlanta can also offer him a 5 year deal whilst other teams can offer him 4 years so that may give them some sort of advantage. But one way or another Millsap will get a very good pay day this summer.

    Do people see him being worth $18 million plus a year?

    I’m in two minds over this, at the moment Paul deserves to be paid but if a team goes all in on him would a 33/34 year old guy in 3 years time be worth $18-20 million a year as a max deal would be pushing him towards that scenario.

    Personally I’d give him a front loaded deal over 4 or 5 years starting at $17-18 million but reducing by about $1 million a year from year 3 onwards. This would equate to over $16 million a year across a 4 or 5 year deal.

     

     

     

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       Well I think people see Milsap leaving because the Hawks just don’t have the money to throw at both Milsap and Carrol, and after these past playoffs, Carroll showed that he is infact better than a lot of people thought he was. He was their best defensive and offensive player in the playoffs. 

      Power Forward is the easiest position to fill in the entire NBA, and Horford has asked countless times to play PF. After watching the Hawks get beat down on the glass the entire playoffs, and man handled by teams with legit size, I think it’s in their best interest to switch things up, and if that means lossing Milsap, than so be it. The Hawks money could be better spent on adding a cheaper option like Asik, Lopez, or Chandler, while also adding another piece to their bench like a Corey Brewer or Brandon Bass. 

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       Well I think people see Milsap leaving because the Hawks just don’t have the money to throw at both Milsap and Carrol, and after these past playoffs, Carroll showed that he is infact better than a lot of people thought he was. He was their best defensive and offensive player in the playoffs. 

      Power Forward is the easiest position to fill in the entire NBA, and Horford has asked countless times to play PF. After watching the Hawks get beat down on the glass the entire playoffs, and man handled by teams with legit size, I think it’s in their best interest to switch things up, and if that means lossing Milsap, than so be it. The Hawks money could be better spent on adding a cheaper option like Asik, Lopez, or Chandler, while also adding another piece to their bench like a Corey Brewer or Brandon Bass. 

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     Atlanta can also offer him a 5 year deal whilst other teams can offer him 4 years so that may give them some sort of advantage. But one way or another Millsap will get a very good pay day this summer.

    Do people see him being worth $18 million plus a year?

    I’m in two minds over this, at the moment Paul deserves to be paid but if a team goes all in on him would a 33/34 year old guy in 3 years time be worth $18-20 million a year as a max deal would be pushing him towards that scenario.

    Personally I’d give him a front loaded deal over 4 or 5 years starting at $17-18 million but reducing by about $1 million a year from year 3 onwards. This would equate to over $16 million a year across a 4 or 5 year deal.

     

     

     

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     A max, or even 15/year contract could look ugly the last two years. Millsap is undersized, 30, and not the most athletic player. Both the Hawks and Jazz should tread carefully.

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     A max, or even 15/year contract could look ugly the last two years. Millsap is undersized, 30, and not the most athletic player. Both the Hawks and Jazz should tread carefully.

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