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  • #59820
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    So I have been thinking what team would benefit/risk taking a one year rental of Hibbert. A lot of teams have been thrown around, but the team I keep settling on is Phoenix.

    I know what your thinking, Hibbert is too slow to fit, but ask yourself a question, when is the best time to get out on the break?: Missed shots create great opportunities to get out on the break and Hibbert is still one of the best at protecting the rim. He can help force teams into tough shots and create opportunities for guys like Bledsoe, Knight, Goodwin, Morris twins etc to run the floor Hibbert getting out there with them isn’t overly necessary.

    The other thing that works in the half-court to Hibbert’s benefit is the shooters that Phoenix has, especially at the 4-spot with the Morris twins, Granger if they choose to use him that way it’ll create space for Hibbert down-low.

    Finally what do the Suns have to lose by renting for a year and seeing how it works out? Unless they attract a big name FA, which at this point the only guy I feel would go there is Monroe as the Suns are more still a few seasons and players away from being a contending team. Aldridge, Gasol, Love etc are looking at true contenders.

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  • #979220
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    arambone2

     I already claimed him for the Celtics.

     

     

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  • #979060
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    arambone2

     I already claimed him for the Celtics.

     

     

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    • #979222
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      He’d fit well there as well.

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    • #979062
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      He’d fit well there as well.

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  • #979226
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     Eh, I’m starting to like Len and would rather give him the bulk of the minutes at center, plus he can run up and down pretty well at his size.

    If Memphis somehow lost Gasol, Hibbert would be a possible replacement, good post defense, Tim protector, solid passer and can make some jump shots, obviously not the same caliber but would play a similar but reduced role that was Gasol’s.

    Milwaukee, NOLA, Dallas all come to mind with their possible front court openings

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  • #979066
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     Eh, I’m starting to like Len and would rather give him the bulk of the minutes at center, plus he can run up and down pretty well at his size.

    If Memphis somehow lost Gasol, Hibbert would be a possible replacement, good post defense, Tim protector, solid passer and can make some jump shots, obviously not the same caliber but would play a similar but reduced role that was Gasol’s.

    Milwaukee, NOLA, Dallas all come to mind with their possible front court openings

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    • #979242
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      Thinking a Hibbert-Gordon trade? Both making $15.5mil next season, Indiana need scoring and Davis needs a C to play next to him.

      Hibbert-Davis-Pondexter-Evans-Holiday (Be a tough team to score no doubt)
      Mahinmi-West-George-Gordon-Hill (Pacers would have enough scoring with Gordon and Hill to be serviceable next to PG)

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    • #979082
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      Thinking a Hibbert-Gordon trade? Both making $15.5mil next season, Indiana need scoring and Davis needs a C to play next to him.

      Hibbert-Davis-Pondexter-Evans-Holiday (Be a tough team to score no doubt)
      Mahinmi-West-George-Gordon-Hill (Pacers would have enough scoring with Gordon and Hill to be serviceable next to PG)

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    • #979209
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       I was thinking Dallas as well, but Mark Cuban will probably not let Tyson Chandler go.

      Hibbert isn’t a star, but considering the overall quality of big men in the league, he will get a starting gig somewhere.

       

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    • #979369
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       I was thinking Dallas as well, but Mark Cuban will probably not let Tyson Chandler go.

      Hibbert isn’t a star, but considering the overall quality of big men in the league, he will get a starting gig somewhere.

       

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  • #979230
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    I think he will take his player option of $15.5 mil, and hope that with George back at full speed, he can have a decent year.  He can then command a 4 year $60 mil deal in 2016.

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  • #979070
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    I think he will take his player option of $15.5 mil, and hope that with George back at full speed, he can have a decent year.  He can then command a 4 year $60 mil deal in 2016.

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    • #979248
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       He shouldn’t get anywhere near $60 mil even with an all-star year, but you are probably right of course. Hibbert has been astonishingly disappointing, but bigmen get overpaid in the NBA.

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    • #979088
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       He shouldn’t get anywhere near $60 mil even with an all-star year, but you are probably right of course. Hibbert has been astonishingly disappointing, but bigmen get overpaid in the NBA.

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  • #979232
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     I think PHX would be one of the worst possible places for him to go to, as they already have a good young center in Len, and play a style of basketball that would litterally have him winded by halftime. Add into the fact that they are also a team who’s best player’s best ability is driving to the hood, and you have a recipe for disaster. 

    I think Hibberts best option would be to either stick it out with PG13 and the Pacers for the year, and then hit the open market. Pacers obviously don’t want him any more and a team like the Celtics could really use him. They need a big man bad, and Hibbert’s passing ability would fit in nicely with Brad Stevens pass oriented system. 

    Another team that could look to add him would be the Blazers if LMA leaves this summer. He would be a nice fit with Batum/Lillard, and could play the same role as LA on O while providing more stability on D. 

    The final team that I think would be a good fit would be NY. Sounds crazy, but Hibbert played the Princton offense in college at GT, and the Princton is similar to the Triangle in some reguards. He would fit in nicely, assuming knicks draft a guard and not a center, as he would be surrounded by scorers in Russle/Muiday and Melo. The triangle would also give him the chance to be a focal point of an offense with his good post passing and post ups. They could also throw a boat load of money at the guy too, which always helps. 

     

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  • #979072
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     I think PHX would be one of the worst possible places for him to go to, as they already have a good young center in Len, and play a style of basketball that would litterally have him winded by halftime. Add into the fact that they are also a team who’s best player’s best ability is driving to the hood, and you have a recipe for disaster. 

    I think Hibberts best option would be to either stick it out with PG13 and the Pacers for the year, and then hit the open market. Pacers obviously don’t want him any more and a team like the Celtics could really use him. They need a big man bad, and Hibbert’s passing ability would fit in nicely with Brad Stevens pass oriented system. 

    Another team that could look to add him would be the Blazers if LMA leaves this summer. He would be a nice fit with Batum/Lillard, and could play the same role as LA on O while providing more stability on D. 

    The final team that I think would be a good fit would be NY. Sounds crazy, but Hibbert played the Princton offense in college at GT, and the Princton is similar to the Triangle in some reguards. He would fit in nicely, assuming knicks draft a guard and not a center, as he would be surrounded by scorers in Russle/Muiday and Melo. The triangle would also give him the chance to be a focal point of an offense with his good post passing and post ups. They could also throw a boat load of money at the guy too, which always helps. 

     

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  • #979246
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     I think he’d be pretty good with the Celtics if he could be had for a cheap price via trade or in free agency.

    They’ll probably make a run at DeAndre Jordan this summer, but if they whiff on him (likely), then Hibbert is a good option as a rim-protector and might benefit playing a Bogut role where he doesn’t have to score, just defend and pass from the high post.

     

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  • #979086
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     I think he’d be pretty good with the Celtics if he could be had for a cheap price via trade or in free agency.

    They’ll probably make a run at DeAndre Jordan this summer, but if they whiff on him (likely), then Hibbert is a good option as a rim-protector and might benefit playing a Bogut role where he doesn’t have to score, just defend and pass from the high post.

     

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  • #979257
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     Hibbert had a quiet season last year but is still regarded as a good big man and can be a great defensive anchor for the right team. He is still only 28 years old and so should have a good few years ahead of him.

    Roy’s game isn’t based on athleticism so it’s not like he’s going to lose his speed as he never really had any. But as Larry Bird once said he’ll be 7ft 2ins at the start or end of the game so you know what you get with Roy.

    Also I was amazed ast how durable he is, only 14 games missed in the last 6 years and with so many big men being injured having a rock solid guy like Roy there game in game out makes him a nice commodity.

    I don’t see him in Phoenix as we have Len we want to develop. I like the Boston idea, he’d fit in great with their 3 point range big men. The Knicks is interesting as he has good hands for a big man and could work in the triangle, plus if they drafted KAT then KAT could play PF.

    The Pellicans is a decent call too, he’d not have to worry about scoring too much and his big body in the post would cause problems on offence with AD drawing a double team alongside him. On defence Roy could play anchor allowing AD to guard midrange, they would certainly be hard to score against.

    As regards his contract I think he’ll opt in look for a good year and then test the waters next summer. The Pacers might actually look to tie him up sooner and he could opt in and extend like Zach Randolph did last summer.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #979097
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     Hibbert had a quiet season last year but is still regarded as a good big man and can be a great defensive anchor for the right team. He is still only 28 years old and so should have a good few years ahead of him.

    Roy’s game isn’t based on athleticism so it’s not like he’s going to lose his speed as he never really had any. But as Larry Bird once said he’ll be 7ft 2ins at the start or end of the game so you know what you get with Roy.

    Also I was amazed ast how durable he is, only 14 games missed in the last 6 years and with so many big men being injured having a rock solid guy like Roy there game in game out makes him a nice commodity.

    I don’t see him in Phoenix as we have Len we want to develop. I like the Boston idea, he’d fit in great with their 3 point range big men. The Knicks is interesting as he has good hands for a big man and could work in the triangle, plus if they drafted KAT then KAT could play PF.

    The Pellicans is a decent call too, he’d not have to worry about scoring too much and his big body in the post would cause problems on offence with AD drawing a double team alongside him. On defence Roy could play anchor allowing AD to guard midrange, they would certainly be hard to score against.

    As regards his contract I think he’ll opt in look for a good year and then test the waters next summer. The Pacers might actually look to tie him up sooner and he could opt in and extend like Zach Randolph did last summer.

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #979259
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    arambone2

     I think he’ll opt out and sign a multi-year deal and get some long-term security. Bird basically insinuated they don’t really want him back, and his role will be reduced, which is a bad recipe for earning a big contract next year. And definitely not worth the risk for Hibbert. 

    A team like Boston would probably offer at least 12 million per for 3-4 years.

    Hibbert would feel wanted, put in a position to succeed, and have long term financial security.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #979099
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     I think he’ll opt out and sign a multi-year deal and get some long-term security. Bird basically insinuated they don’t really want him back, and his role will be reduced, which is a bad recipe for earning a big contract next year. And definitely not worth the risk for Hibbert. 

    A team like Boston would probably offer at least 12 million per for 3-4 years.

    Hibbert would feel wanted, put in a position to succeed, and have long term financial security.

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #979263
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     I too think Len is a better option. He’s still on a rookie scale contract, thus cheaper, plus he’s shown some real potential as a rim protector (2.5 bpg per 36 minutes in 14-15), and is still on the up-swing. The kicker? He’s a better rebounder already, and while Hibbert is a better mid-range shooter, Len shot over 10% better at the rim last season (67% to 56%).

    Roy is a very good NBA shot blocker, but he’s an average to below average rebounder, and his consistency has gone down over the past few seasons. He’s seen dips in ppg, bpg, in the last 3 seasons, and he hasn’t shot over 45% from the field since 2011-2012. Still, he’s a vet, former All-Star, and a player that would most likely be looking for a pretty decent sized contract. Anymore I don’t think Roy is a player you add as anything more than a specialist, and to be honest, I think he really only has 1 or 2 seaons left as a starting caliber player. At 28 he’s seen a steady decline since he was about 25.

     

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  • #979103
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     I too think Len is a better option. He’s still on a rookie scale contract, thus cheaper, plus he’s shown some real potential as a rim protector (2.5 bpg per 36 minutes in 14-15), and is still on the up-swing. The kicker? He’s a better rebounder already, and while Hibbert is a better mid-range shooter, Len shot over 10% better at the rim last season (67% to 56%).

    Roy is a very good NBA shot blocker, but he’s an average to below average rebounder, and his consistency has gone down over the past few seasons. He’s seen dips in ppg, bpg, in the last 3 seasons, and he hasn’t shot over 45% from the field since 2011-2012. Still, he’s a vet, former All-Star, and a player that would most likely be looking for a pretty decent sized contract. Anymore I don’t think Roy is a player you add as anything more than a specialist, and to be honest, I think he really only has 1 or 2 seaons left as a starting caliber player. At 28 he’s seen a steady decline since he was about 25.

     

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