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  • #59153
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     I know it’s been tried in the nba before to no avail, but with the right roster, don’t you think it could work?  Your starting shift could be young athletic players who are out to prove something and can wear down the starting unit and cause havoc. Then when they bring in subs you could bring in your starting half court players?  I’ve thought about this a while ago when watching the wolves,  thinking they’d bea perfect team. You could start rubio Lavine wiggins bennett/gr3/young and dieng.  And  when the opposition starts subbing in the bench unit the wolves can put in pek and Martin an d (now hornet) mo Williams. I know it won’t work against every team but I feel like this is the no huddle of basketball. 

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  • #967460
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     With those long, athletic, young guys, sure.  Maybe not all the time but at least some.  

    I also think some bench units should do it.  Benches don’t have as many scorers so maybe they should be more defensive oriented.

    the Grizzlies can go with Nick Calathes, Tony Allen, Jon Leuer/JaMychal Green and Kosta Koufos.  Play a full court press and rebound.  Scrap for a few points and give the starters a rest.

    its also something you can practice.  Have your normal 8 man rotation then have your last 5 guys be a "full court press" special team that you can work with in practice. Then try your own press against your starters.

    A team can’t get 13 great scorers — but you can find long, hustle guys to give you energy and defense off the bench.

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  • #967311
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     With those long, athletic, young guys, sure.  Maybe not all the time but at least some.  

    I also think some bench units should do it.  Benches don’t have as many scorers so maybe they should be more defensive oriented.

    the Grizzlies can go with Nick Calathes, Tony Allen, Jon Leuer/JaMychal Green and Kosta Koufos.  Play a full court press and rebound.  Scrap for a few points and give the starters a rest.

    its also something you can practice.  Have your normal 8 man rotation then have your last 5 guys be a "full court press" special team that you can work with in practice. Then try your own press against your starters.

    A team can’t get 13 great scorers — but you can find long, hustle guys to give you energy and defense off the bench.

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  • #967472
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     with the handcheck rules, continuation, "star" calls ect… we are currently having a conversation about if teams can even guard from 20 ft and in with the current NBA set up.

    No way would a team be able to guard the full length of the court and not give up lay ups and wide open jumpers all day.

     

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  • #967323
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     with the handcheck rules, continuation, "star" calls ect… we are currently having a conversation about if teams can even guard from 20 ft and in with the current NBA set up.

    No way would a team be able to guard the full length of the court and not give up lay ups and wide open jumpers all day.

     

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    • #967474
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      Exactly. It’s near impossible to run a press in todays NBA, and it’s really dicey to even try it. Sure you can get away with it by pressing one player, like the Celtics used to do with Avery bradley a few years, but commiting to it is something you don’t want to do. Any good PG and well coached team could easily beat a press, and at that point you’re just making your team vulnerable.

      I think it also has to be said that when you play a press, you’re changing the way you play offense as well. You generally are playing an uptempo style of play, and both teams get a lot of opportunities to score. Not every team has the depth to do that, and not every team wants to play like that. 

      I think the closest defensive sceme you’ll see in modern NBA that is close to the press would be the Heat’s trap defense that they used to win those two titles. It’s not a strait up press, but what they would do it press the ball handler from the get-go, and then try to trap them at midcourt. It was the perfect defense for the players that that team had. 

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    • #967325
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      Exactly. It’s near impossible to run a press in todays NBA, and it’s really dicey to even try it. Sure you can get away with it by pressing one player, like the Celtics used to do with Avery bradley a few years, but commiting to it is something you don’t want to do. Any good PG and well coached team could easily beat a press, and at that point you’re just making your team vulnerable.

      I think it also has to be said that when you play a press, you’re changing the way you play offense as well. You generally are playing an uptempo style of play, and both teams get a lot of opportunities to score. Not every team has the depth to do that, and not every team wants to play like that. 

      I think the closest defensive sceme you’ll see in modern NBA that is close to the press would be the Heat’s trap defense that they used to win those two titles. It’s not a strait up press, but what they would do it press the ball handler from the get-go, and then try to trap them at midcourt. It was the perfect defense for the players that that team had. 

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  • #967494
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     I think NBA teams should run "soft" zone presses to man to man once in a while. Make the offense use 8  seconds maybe more before they can set up their offense. Get them into 12 seconds on the shot clock sometimes before they know it. But not a gambling zone where you can get beat.

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  • #967346
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     I think NBA teams should run "soft" zone presses to man to man once in a while. Make the offense use 8  seconds maybe more before they can set up their offense. Get them into 12 seconds on the shot clock sometimes before they know it. But not a gambling zone where you can get beat.

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  • #967560
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    The problem is if you do a full court press against John Wall or Russel Westbrook,as soon as they’ll get the step,boy it’s over,it’s either a foul or a basket made. OKC would absolutly love to play against full court press ,they’re so good on fast breaks. Or imagine aganst the Handles of Kyrie Irving,there’s a video of him in a team USA training where he basically dribbles out of LeBron,Kobe and KD to finish on the other end. Imagine him aganst a full court press,with LeBron filling the lane. That’s two points everytime.

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  • #967412
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    The problem is if you do a full court press against John Wall or Russel Westbrook,as soon as they’ll get the step,boy it’s over,it’s either a foul or a basket made. OKC would absolutly love to play against full court press ,they’re so good on fast breaks. Or imagine aganst the Handles of Kyrie Irving,there’s a video of him in a team USA training where he basically dribbles out of LeBron,Kobe and KD to finish on the other end. Imagine him aganst a full court press,with LeBron filling the lane. That’s two points everytime.

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