Adreian Payne to Minnesota

I believe the pick is lottery protected. I think this means Thad Young is definelty out of Minnesota. Payne and Bennett may not either be the answer at the starting 4 long term, but they will get playing time and see how they develop with the young team. Minnesota is stocking up on lots of young talent and will let them grow together. Future looks bright in Minnesota. 

I believe the pick is lottery protected. I think this means Thad Young is definelty out of Minnesota. Payne and Bennett may not either be the answer at the starting 4 long term, but they will get playing time and see how they develop with the young team. Minnesota is stocking up on lots of young talent and will let them grow together. Future looks bright in Minnesota. 

great opportunity for payne.  i thought he looked lost and fell in love with his jumper too much when he was playing in the summer league.  i still think he can contribute at this level given more opportunities.  i would have to think bennett is losing grasp of minutes or this is a precursor to thad young being moved.

for atlanta, it makes sense.  open up a roster spot for a vet, get another pick and move a guy that wasn’t going to see the court too much anyways.  it also makes sense in that their draft position (swapped with nets) is prime spot to add a quality big like bobby portis or wcs.

great opportunity for payne.  i thought he looked lost and fell in love with his jumper too much when he was playing in the summer league.  i still think he can contribute at this level given more opportunities.  i would have to think bennett is losing grasp of minutes or this is a precursor to thad young being moved.

for atlanta, it makes sense.  open up a roster spot for a vet, get another pick and move a guy that wasn’t going to see the court too much anyways.  it also makes sense in that their draft position (swapped with nets) is prime spot to add a quality big like bobby portis or wcs.

 As a MSU and AP fan, I’m glad to see him go to a team where he could make an impact. I’m at the very least excited to see him play, since I haven’t seen him play at all this year. The T-Wolves are one of my favorite teams now. 

Also, this can’t mean good things for Bennet…

 As a MSU and AP fan, I’m glad to see him go to a team where he could make an impact. I’m at the very least excited to see him play, since I haven’t seen him play at all this year. The T-Wolves are one of my favorite teams now. 

Also, this can’t mean good things for Bennet…

I think this is good for both MN and Payne. He fits there team really well (can space the floor, score in the post, very athletic and can block shots), and I don’t think Bennett has proven he deserves the limited minutes he gets. MN needed a backup PF bad, and Payne is a guy that Flip loved during pre draft workouts, so it makes sense. Payne should be able to crack the rotation over Bennett, once he gets familiar with the system. Not to mention his size is something MN needs, two undersized PF’s isn’t a great idea.

The fact that the pick is protected is helpful as well. But I do not see this trade impacting Thad at all, mainly Bennett.

I think this is good for both MN and Payne. He fits there team really well (can space the floor, score in the post, very athletic and can block shots), and I don’t think Bennett has proven he deserves the limited minutes he gets. MN needed a backup PF bad, and Payne is a guy that Flip loved during pre draft workouts, so it makes sense. Payne should be able to crack the rotation over Bennett, once he gets familiar with the system. Not to mention his size is something MN needs, two undersized PF’s isn’t a great idea.

The fact that the pick is protected is helpful as well. But I do not see this trade impacting Thad at all, mainly Bennett.

Atlanta has no room for developing rookies on their roster with the way they have been playing.  They have a veteran club that shoots lights out and makes very few mistakes. A first round pick is a much more flexible asset whether they decide to flip it for another vet in the future. 

Minny has been watching Payne for a long time. They worked him out last spring and a lot of people thought Saunders would take him in the draft. It will be intersting to see him get some playing time. There isn`t a lot of risk as long as the pick is well protected. Chances are the resulting pick will be higher than where Payne was selected. 

As far as Bennett goes, I hope this results in a D League stint for him. He could use it.

Atlanta has no room for developing rookies on their roster with the way they have been playing.  They have a veteran club that shoots lights out and makes very few mistakes. A first round pick is a much more flexible asset whether they decide to flip it for another vet in the future. 

Minny has been watching Payne for a long time. They worked him out last spring and a lot of people thought Saunders would take him in the draft. It will be intersting to see him get some playing time. There isn`t a lot of risk as long as the pick is well protected. Chances are the resulting pick will be higher than where Payne was selected. 

As far as Bennett goes, I hope this results in a D League stint for him. He could use it.

Anthony Bennett has been beyond bad. He is absolutley hopeless on defense, and at best, clueless on offense. I thought the Wolves would take Payne in last years draft over LaVine, and he hopefully will be a nice fit. It’s too bad the Wolves picked up Bennett’s option for next year because he has little chance of making it. I don’t know how much impact this will have on Thad Young. He has a player option and could have more than a few suitors, so maybe now he opts out. Maybe it means we will look to trade him next. I think it likely means we’re just giving up on Bennett. 

Also, glad to see we moved Mo Williams.

Anthony Bennett has been beyond bad. He is absolutley hopeless on defense, and at best, clueless on offense. I thought the Wolves would take Payne in last years draft over LaVine, and he hopefully will be a nice fit. It’s too bad the Wolves picked up Bennett’s option for next year because he has little chance of making it. I don’t know how much impact this will have on Thad Young. He has a player option and could have more than a few suitors, so maybe now he opts out. Maybe it means we will look to trade him next. I think it likely means we’re just giving up on Bennett. 

Also, glad to see we moved Mo Williams.

Minnesota’s next step is to clear Kevin Martin

Minnesota’s next step is to clear Kevin Martin

 I don’t see why ATL didn’t give up its first rounder and Payne for the Georgia Tech alum Thad Young. Thad could represent insurance for Millsap wanting max money and could play the 20 minutes a night Mike Scott plays. 

I still like Bennett and he is much improved. IDK what Flip thinks of Bennett and he has given him inconsistent minutes. 

 I don’t see why ATL didn’t give up its first rounder and Payne for the Georgia Tech alum Thad Young. Thad could represent insurance for Millsap wanting max money and could play the 20 minutes a night Mike Scott plays. 

I still like Bennett and he is much improved. IDK what Flip thinks of Bennett and he has given him inconsistent minutes. 

 Payne is a talented player with NBA size, athleticism and a nice mid range shooting touch. I think he’ll absolutely beat out Bennett for minutes in Minnesota.

He reminds me a bit of Markieff Morris, and although I’m not sure he has quite as high of a ceiling, I think he’ll put up pretty good numbers for the rest of the season. Good pick up for a lotto protected draft pick. 

 Payne is a talented player with NBA size, athleticism and a nice mid range shooting touch. I think he’ll absolutely beat out Bennett for minutes in Minnesota.

He reminds me a bit of Markieff Morris, and although I’m not sure he has quite as high of a ceiling, I think he’ll put up pretty good numbers for the rest of the season. Good pick up for a lotto protected draft pick. 

 Really could bounce two ways, that pick could be a nice one in the late teens or be a second rounder, and while Payne hasn’t gotten an opportunity yet, and he is pretty old for a rookie. Seems like fair value for the time being.

 Really could bounce two ways, that pick could be a nice one in the late teens or be a second rounder, and while Payne hasn’t gotten an opportunity yet, and he is pretty old for a rookie. Seems like fair value for the time being.

 Are the Hawks going after anyone else?  I think they need another talented player off the bench.  Top five looks SOLID.  Their bench is ok, but they could still use some more help.  

 Are the Hawks going after anyone else?  I think they need another talented player off the bench.  Top five looks SOLID.  Their bench is ok, but they could still use some more help.  

I love this trade for MN! They need to go a different option with finding the PF of the future and I think Payne could be that guy. Thad and Bennett have been awful this season. But with Bennett it seems that he has zero motivation and doesn’t play with any passion or hustle. Even Jeff Adrien was playing better than Bennett during the season! I had high hopes that by leaving Cavs it would give him the fresh start his career needed. I hope Payne can become our starting PF but we’ll just have to wait and see how he adjusts to the new system.

With adding Payne to the roster, does his change how the Wolves approach this draft? I could see the Wolves ending up drafting Towns or Turner, mainly because MN gets shafted when it comes to the lottery so they’re probably going to get the 4th pick lol, Who do you guys think the Wolves should go after in the draft (assuming they get a top 4 pick)

I love this trade for MN! They need to go a different option with finding the PF of the future and I think Payne could be that guy. Thad and Bennett have been awful this season. But with Bennett it seems that he has zero motivation and doesn’t play with any passion or hustle. Even Jeff Adrien was playing better than Bennett during the season! I had high hopes that by leaving Cavs it would give him the fresh start his career needed. I hope Payne can become our starting PF but we’ll just have to wait and see how he adjusts to the new system.

With adding Payne to the roster, does his change how the Wolves approach this draft? I could see the Wolves ending up drafting Towns or Turner, mainly because MN gets shafted when it comes to the lottery so they’re probably going to get the 4th pick lol, Who do you guys think the Wolves should go after in the draft (assuming they get a top 4 pick)

Nice job by MN.  By 2020 they should be a 4-5 seed in the West.  And the first round pick will probably be int he 20s.  Payne was always a solid basketball palyer and should help establish a SYSTEM of basketball, which is missing right now in MN.  

I am upset that the Sixers woudlnt’ do something similar.  If Kevin Martin for McDermott happens, I will be more jealous and upset.  MN would then have the edge on prospects.

The Sixers have absolutely no shooting.  Landing a Doug McDermott would be huge for them.  Brett Brown is on record for saying that Embiid may be the second best shooter on the team (behind Robert Covington).

Nice job by MN.  By 2020 they should be a 4-5 seed in the West.  And the first round pick will probably be int he 20s.  Payne was always a solid basketball palyer and should help establish a SYSTEM of basketball, which is missing right now in MN.  

I am upset that the Sixers woudlnt’ do something similar.  If Kevin Martin for McDermott happens, I will be more jealous and upset.  MN would then have the edge on prospects.

The Sixers have absolutely no shooting.  Landing a Doug McDermott would be huge for them.  Brett Brown is on record for saying that Embiid may be the second best shooter on the team (behind Robert Covington).

 I’d say there is a 0% chance Doug McDermott gets traded. His lack of PT has been more injury related than dog house related. From everything I’ve heard, the Bulls love him.

 I’d say there is a 0% chance Doug McDermott gets traded. His lack of PT has been more injury related than dog house related. From everything I’ve heard, the Bulls love him.

 Payne was getting zero playing time in Atlanta, so I guess Danny Ferry decided to accept a decent offer from the T-Wolves. The Hawks may be looking for another veteran to full out the roster space but they already have Elton Brand as the veteran presence to cover frontcourt minutes if needed, so might Ferry be looking at another position to give depth to I wonder.

Payne will get some minutes with the T-Wolves but he could get pushed down the roster again if Flip decides to draft a big man this summer.

 Payne was getting zero playing time in Atlanta, so I guess Danny Ferry decided to accept a decent offer from the T-Wolves. The Hawks may be looking for another veteran to full out the roster space but they already have Elton Brand as the veteran presence to cover frontcourt minutes if needed, so might Ferry be looking at another position to give depth to I wonder.

Payne will get some minutes with the T-Wolves but he could get pushed down the roster again if Flip decides to draft a big man this summer.

Good move by the Wolves. They get a guy who has tremendous upside left after a disappointing rookie year so far for a protected first rounder when the team should make a push for the playoffs in 2017. 

on the other hand I think the Hawks gave away Payne too early. They are in an excelent position this year and Payne could have been a nice guy coming off the bench in year two similar to what Schröder is doing now. 

The more interesting question is what the Hawks are going to do with the open roster spot? I’ve read for a while now that Ray Allen is giving the Hawks a strong look and this whole trade might be an indication that there is progress inking Allen for the remainder of the season.

Good move by the Wolves. They get a guy who has tremendous upside left after a disappointing rookie year so far for a protected first rounder when the team should make a push for the playoffs in 2017. 

on the other hand I think the Hawks gave away Payne too early. They are in an excelent position this year and Payne could have been a nice guy coming off the bench in year two similar to what Schröder is doing now. 

The more interesting question is what the Hawks are going to do with the open roster spot? I’ve read for a while now that Ray Allen is giving the Hawks a strong look and this whole trade might be an indication that there is progress inking Allen for the remainder of the season.

Shameless plug on a piece I did on the trade…at least I have some credibility right?

http://welcometothebigs.net/2015/02/10/hawks-trade-payne-korver-named-to-all-star-team/

Shameless plug on a piece I did on the trade…at least I have some credibility right?

http://welcometothebigs.net/2015/02/10/hawks-trade-payne-korver-named-to-all-star-team/

 I am suprised by this trade and even more that the Wolves traded Mo Williams, We need a true PF after trading Love, but Rubio only plays 30-40/year, I’m hoping the Wolves get Russel in the draft a back court of Lavine and Russel as "wild card" scorers with Wiggins as the focul point would be a great core. Were last in NBA what do we have to lose?

 I am suprised by this trade and even more that the Wolves traded Mo Williams, We need a true PF after trading Love, but Rubio only plays 30-40/year, I’m hoping the Wolves get Russel in the draft a back court of Lavine and Russel as "wild card" scorers with Wiggins as the focul point would be a great core. Were last in NBA what do we have to lose?

I remember there being knocks on Bennett’s work ethic immediately after he was drafted from former coaches and the like. He could end up as one of those "what if" players assuming he doesn’t turn things around quickly, I mean it was the only thing truly holding him back from getting consistent minutes.

I remember there being knocks on Bennett’s work ethic immediately after he was drafted from former coaches and the like. He could end up as one of those "what if" players assuming he doesn’t turn things around quickly, I mean it was the only thing truly holding him back from getting consistent minutes.

Im not a fan of his. Hate his D instincts and awareness. 24 years old. Shot 13% from 3 in the D-league, he should honestly be putting up big numbers down there for his age.

Flip fcked up. 

Bennett can realistically be out the league in two seasons. Its pretty obvious he will never live up to #1 pick status and will go down as a bust. His only chance in sticking in this league is if he develops a consistent 3 point shot.

Im not a fan of his. Hate his D instincts and awareness. 24 years old. Shot 13% from 3 in the D-league, he should honestly be putting up big numbers down there for his age.

Flip fcked up. 

Bennett can realistically be out the league in two seasons. Its pretty obvious he will never live up to #1 pick status and will go down as a bust. His only chance in sticking in this league is if he develops a consistent 3 point shot.