Superstars?

why do ppl think the spurs dont have any stars?? tony parker and Tim Duncan people!

why do ppl think the spurs dont have any stars?? tony parker and Tim Duncan people!

 will always have stars. Duncan, ginobili and Parker will always be names among the greats. But he said superstars and at this point I don’t think any of those guys are top 5 or 10 players. 

 will always have stars. Duncan, ginobili and Parker will always be names among the greats. But he said superstars and at this point I don’t think any of those guys are top 5 or 10 players. 

Duncan isn’t a superstar anymore. Tony Parker never was a superstar, just a really good point guard who never put up amazing numbers but was the quintessential champion. Even when Duncan was in his prime, the Spurs were always a “team” first, guys like Bruce Bowen and Avery Johnson were the perfect compliments to Duncan. I think the “superteam” everyone thought was going to be dominant was the Cavs obviously and they are sitting at 19-18. Lebron is hurt and while Irving and Love’s numbers are decent, they haven’t gelled like people thought they would. The Hawks are the hottest team in the league right now with Horford, Millsap and Teague who are good players, but far from “superstars.” I think you’re right about the Spurs shaking up the league with their resounding defeat of the Heat in the finals last year.

Duncan isn’t a superstar anymore. Tony Parker never was a superstar, just a really good point guard who never put up amazing numbers but was the quintessential champion. Even when Duncan was in his prime, the Spurs were always a “team” first, guys like Bruce Bowen and Avery Johnson were the perfect compliments to Duncan. I think the “superteam” everyone thought was going to be dominant was the Cavs obviously and they are sitting at 19-18. Lebron is hurt and while Irving and Love’s numbers are decent, they haven’t gelled like people thought they would. The Hawks are the hottest team in the league right now with Horford, Millsap and Teague who are good players, but far from “superstars.” I think you’re right about the Spurs shaking up the league with their resounding defeat of the Heat in the finals last year.

How many teams have won the NBA championship without a superstar? The only team I can think of was the 2004 Pistons, who had All-Stars, but no real superstars. 

Yea, the Spurs won it last season and played excellent team ball, but let’s be real here… Without Tim Duncan… None of that ish works. Many would still argue he’s a superstar. Many would argue Tony Parker is a superstar, especially considering the fact he finished top three in MVP voting damn near 2-3 seasons in a row. 

Without Dirk Nowitzki on the 2011 Mavs, none of that ish works. 

If you look at all of the past champions… Majority of them are full of superstar type players. 

When you have a superstar or two, it’s much easier to win a title, especially if they’re unselfish and don’t like need to dominate the ball. So no… I don’t think superstars or superteams are a thing of the past. 

How many teams have won the NBA championship without a superstar? The only team I can think of was the 2004 Pistons, who had All-Stars, but no real superstars. 

Yea, the Spurs won it last season and played excellent team ball, but let’s be real here… Without Tim Duncan… None of that ish works. Many would still argue he’s a superstar. Many would argue Tony Parker is a superstar, especially considering the fact he finished top three in MVP voting damn near 2-3 seasons in a row. 

Without Dirk Nowitzki on the 2011 Mavs, none of that ish works. 

If you look at all of the past champions… Majority of them are full of superstar type players. 

When you have a superstar or two, it’s much easier to win a title, especially if they’re unselfish and don’t like need to dominate the ball. So no… I don’t think superstars or superteams are a thing of the past. 

What super teams are you talking about? The Red Auerbach Celtics. There hasn’t been a super team in a long time. 

San Antonio beating Miami wasn’t that big of a surprise. They almost won the year prior, but came back the next year with a better roster, while Miami came back with a worse roster. The Spurs might not have Durant, Lebron, Westbrook, Anthony Davis, etc, but the they play as a team, have quality depth and have great coaching. The way their minutes and games are handled also make them better. Duncan’s not playing 34-35 minutes a night and he’s not playing every game. By playoff time he’s fresh and it increases his effectiveness. The Miami teams were severely overrated by fans. I think their best team was year one because that was the last fully healthy Wade as a superstar year and Bosh played a more diverse game, but they were starting Bibby and playing a lot of Z, Haslem and Joel Anthony. The Jordan Bulls teams were rolling out better backup pgs and big men than what that team was starting.

What super teams are you talking about? The Red Auerbach Celtics. There hasn’t been a super team in a long time. 

San Antonio beating Miami wasn’t that big of a surprise. They almost won the year prior, but came back the next year with a better roster, while Miami came back with a worse roster. The Spurs might not have Durant, Lebron, Westbrook, Anthony Davis, etc, but the they play as a team, have quality depth and have great coaching. The way their minutes and games are handled also make them better. Duncan’s not playing 34-35 minutes a night and he’s not playing every game. By playoff time he’s fresh and it increases his effectiveness. The Miami teams were severely overrated by fans. I think their best team was year one because that was the last fully healthy Wade as a superstar year and Bosh played a more diverse game, but they were starting Bibby and playing a lot of Z, Haslem and Joel Anthony. The Jordan Bulls teams were rolling out better backup pgs and big men than what that team was starting.

the league is different and we see a lot of ball movement.  The scoring went up and it’s really no need for a "superstar" player if you have a balance team.  2004 was actually the first year the rules had changed which rewarded the Pistons with a championship.  

Is Duncan still a star?  I guess that’s debateable.  But if you say Kobe is then Duncan should be.  

I’m not saying you don’t need superstars now, just it’s more possible to do it without a guy that scores 30+ every game. 

the league is different and we see a lot of ball movement.  The scoring went up and it’s really no need for a "superstar" player if you have a balance team.  2004 was actually the first year the rules had changed which rewarded the Pistons with a championship.  

Is Duncan still a star?  I guess that’s debateable.  But if you say Kobe is then Duncan should be.  

I’m not saying you don’t need superstars now, just it’s more possible to do it without a guy that scores 30+ every game. 

 honestly speaking, all the titles won in the 2000’s  were mostly due to supreme team play more than that unbelieve unstoppable talent. i would say the laker championships due to Shaq. maybe even the dallas one due to dirk, but even then they won cause of great team chemistry.

they dint have a clear second option on offense so they moved the ball a ton to score most of their points. they reinforced this with excellent team defense anchored by Tyson Chandler, reinforced with Shawn Marion, DeShawn Stevenson and Jason Kidd than had dirk make rotations and help on boards but mostly had those 4 to shoulder the deffensive responsibilities and had Dirk shoulder getting them baskets and be that first scoring option.

even when the lakers won again with Kobe and Pau, i would credit the championship more to LA having Pau, Bynum and Odom and how they fit the triangle more than Kobe taking a ton of shots and scoring a ton of points. same with the celtics, they formed that allen-pierce-garnett trio and had them share the ball, again team play. and just with the heat in their back-to-back title, they won on the backs of great team d and a spread around offense which utilized a lot of catch and shoot options in Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Shane Battier

like what someone said earlier, id credit the rule changes, mostly the permission of zone deffense as the main source of teams going into a more team ball system rather than forcing a lot of iso plays. mostly because why have someone go isolation to score when the defense isnt forced to go man to man and can make a stop more by employing a system that would make rotations easier. the hero ball style have decreased due to the permit of zone D because hero ball style isnt the most efficient option anymore whereas in the past it was. 

 honestly speaking, all the titles won in the 2000’s  were mostly due to supreme team play more than that unbelieve unstoppable talent. i would say the laker championships due to Shaq. maybe even the dallas one due to dirk, but even then they won cause of great team chemistry.

they dint have a clear second option on offense so they moved the ball a ton to score most of their points. they reinforced this with excellent team defense anchored by Tyson Chandler, reinforced with Shawn Marion, DeShawn Stevenson and Jason Kidd than had dirk make rotations and help on boards but mostly had those 4 to shoulder the deffensive responsibilities and had Dirk shoulder getting them baskets and be that first scoring option.

even when the lakers won again with Kobe and Pau, i would credit the championship more to LA having Pau, Bynum and Odom and how they fit the triangle more than Kobe taking a ton of shots and scoring a ton of points. same with the celtics, they formed that allen-pierce-garnett trio and had them share the ball, again team play. and just with the heat in their back-to-back title, they won on the backs of great team d and a spread around offense which utilized a lot of catch and shoot options in Ray Allen, Mike Miller, Shane Battier

like what someone said earlier, id credit the rule changes, mostly the permission of zone deffense as the main source of teams going into a more team ball system rather than forcing a lot of iso plays. mostly because why have someone go isolation to score when the defense isnt forced to go man to man and can make a stop more by employing a system that would make rotations easier. the hero ball style have decreased due to the permit of zone D because hero ball style isnt the most efficient option anymore whereas in the past it was.