Coaches in the NBA horrendous

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Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 6:50pm #58781

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The future is great for the league, but the state of coaching is atrocious. A clown like Brooks is destroying the Thunder for years, starting Perk, starting Sefolosha or Roberson, denying Harden, unbelievable. Right now how it is possible that some Corbin, Fisher, Vaughn, Monty Williams are HC? And nobody is writing about this.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 7:08pm #961557

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I agree, some teams are at a serious disadvantage due to their coaching. I’m not saying these guys don’t work really hard or truly love their players but some definitely hurt their teams chances at winning. I’m watching the Suns/T’Wolves on ESPN right now and both of these teams are really well coached. Injuries aside, both Jeff Hornacek and Flip Saunders have their teams playing to their respective potentials. The Suns would be fighting for the 1 seed if they were in the East and Minnesota is missing three starters but have an identity and play to one another’s strengths.
Now, take Scott Brooks. His limitations as a coach, particularly on the offensive end, are really starting to show. It’s crazy to say when he has overseen the development of two MVP-level players in Durant and Westbrook and an annual DPOY candidate in Ibaka but he is clearly holding them back from playing efficient and effective basketball. None of these players have a post game or get post touches, they shoot a ton of contested, long two pointers, and resort to isolation play after the initial look fails. The right coach could give them the kind of improvement Steve Kerr has given the Warriors, which is scary to think considering OKC made the finals in 2012 and fought the Spurs tougher than everyone except arguably the Mavericks last year.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 7:08pm #961695

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I agree, some teams are at a serious disadvantage due to their coaching. I’m not saying these guys don’t work really hard or truly love their players but some definitely hurt their teams chances at winning. I’m watching the Suns/T’Wolves on ESPN right now and both of these teams are really well coached. Injuries aside, both Jeff Hornacek and Flip Saunders have their teams playing to their respective potentials. The Suns would be fighting for the 1 seed if they were in the East and Minnesota is missing three starters but have an identity and play to one another’s strengths.
Now, take Scott Brooks. His limitations as a coach, particularly on the offensive end, are really starting to show. It’s crazy to say when he has overseen the development of two MVP-level players in Durant and Westbrook and an annual DPOY candidate in Ibaka but he is clearly holding them back from playing efficient and effective basketball. None of these players have a post game or get post touches, they shoot a ton of contested, long two pointers, and resort to isolation play after the initial look fails. The right coach could give them the kind of improvement Steve Kerr has given the Warriors, which is scary to think considering OKC made the finals in 2012 and fought the Spurs tougher than everyone except arguably the Mavericks last year.
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Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 7:13pm #961559

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i think just like any profession, there are good ones and bad ones. and it because the NBA is a league to itself with its own set of rules different from FIBA and NCAA, there are those whose coaching style is meant only for the NBA but would be bad in other leagues. sometimes it matters more to have that kind of coach than one who could win you a gold medal or NCAA championship.
and its not like there are no good coaches out there, popovich is an obvious one who might be best of all time, but aside from him i think stan van gundy, steve kerr, jeff hornaceck, steve clifford, terry stots, kevin mchale, brad stevens and others are all doing wonderfull jobs right now.

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- Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 8:24pm #961581
  
  TRC1991
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  Steve Clifford? Lolwut? The Hornets have sucked and underperformed like mad this year
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  - Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 8:44pm #961585
    
    benny15
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    i really liked what they did last year and feel that what theyre doing with al jefferson out is comendable. theyve been bad this season since they are going through growing pains integrating lance stephonson in their system. its like fitting a square peg on a round hole because its a better quality beg. after you remove the sides and get it to the proper fit, the machine as a whole would be better. i wouldnt blame the coaching for the not ideal fit management signed in the off-season.
    i still believe things would have been so much different if they had gotten Gordon Haywood instead of Born Ready. either addition would have made the ceiling of a team higher, but Haywood i believe would have had a much smoother transition than Stephenson.
    coaching wise though, it has been the best this franchise has ever had. they actually have an identity, a structured direction to go to on both ends of the court and is a clear upgrade to what the bobcats were.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 8:44pm #961723
    
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    i really liked what they did last year and feel that what theyre doing with al jefferson out is comendable. theyve been bad this season since they are going through growing pains integrating lance stephonson in their system. its like fitting a square peg on a round hole because its a better quality beg. after you remove the sides and get it to the proper fit, the machine as a whole would be better. i wouldnt blame the coaching for the not ideal fit management signed in the off-season.
    i still believe things would have been so much different if they had gotten Gordon Haywood instead of Born Ready. either addition would have made the ceiling of a team higher, but Haywood i believe would have had a much smoother transition than Stephenson.
    coaching wise though, it has been the best this franchise has ever had. they actually have an identity, a structured direction to go to on both ends of the court and is a clear upgrade to what the bobcats were.
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- Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 8:24pm #961719
  
  TRC1991
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  Steve Clifford? Lolwut? The Hornets have sucked and underperformed like mad this year
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Posted on: Wed, 01/07/2015 - 7:13pm #961697

benny15
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i think just like any profession, there are good ones and bad ones. and it because the NBA is a league to itself with its own set of rules different from FIBA and NCAA, there are those whose coaching style is meant only for the NBA but would be bad in other leagues. sometimes it matters more to have that kind of coach than one who could win you a gold medal or NCAA championship.
and its not like there are no good coaches out there, popovich is an obvious one who might be best of all time, but aside from him i think stan van gundy, steve kerr, jeff hornaceck, steve clifford, terry stots, kevin mchale, brad stevens and others are all doing wonderfull jobs right now.

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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 12:01am #961613

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Yeah guys like Coach Bud, Hornacek and Kerr are really exposing the limitations of old coaching philosophies.
The Thunder’s offensive schemes are like neanderthals among homo sapiens.
Even guys like Doc Rivers who are credited as great motivators are being exposed somewhat as lacking offensive iinnovatin amd being unable to implement a system.
Star power has long ruled the league, but teams are starting to learn that the team is more important than the individual.
Its a good and bad thing for the league – we’ll get to see more efficient and team-based basketball, but we’ll lose out on supremely talented players just taking over games.
But something has to give with guys like Brooks struggling to improve teams at all and burying serviceable guys like Jeremy Lamb on the bench.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 4:41am #961636
  
  ballislyfe25
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  Is there any way Brooks gets fired this year or after the season? I feel as if his job security never comes into question.
  Another guy we forgot to mention…Erik Spolestra. If Miami was healthy this year I think they could have made it to the second round of the playoffs. Josh McRoberts was a big loss and missing Bosh and Wade for long stretches hurts but he adjusts well to his roster.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 4:41am #961775
  
  ballislyfe25
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  Is there any way Brooks gets fired this year or after the season? I feel as if his job security never comes into question.
  Another guy we forgot to mention…Erik Spolestra. If Miami was healthy this year I think they could have made it to the second round of the playoffs. Josh McRoberts was a big loss and missing Bosh and Wade for long stretches hurts but he adjusts well to his roster.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 12:01am #961751

omphalos
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Yeah guys like Coach Bud, Hornacek and Kerr are really exposing the limitations of old coaching philosophies.
The Thunder’s offensive schemes are like neanderthals among homo sapiens.
Even guys like Doc Rivers who are credited as great motivators are being exposed somewhat as lacking offensive iinnovatin amd being unable to implement a system.
Star power has long ruled the league, but teams are starting to learn that the team is more important than the individual.
Its a good and bad thing for the league – we’ll get to see more efficient and team-based basketball, but we’ll lose out on supremely talented players just taking over games.
But something has to give with guys like Brooks struggling to improve teams at all and burying serviceable guys like Jeremy Lamb on the bench.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 12:06am #961615

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Gotta put Byron Scott on this list
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 11:15am #961848
  
  dcase
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  Why? Because the Lakers should have a far better record than they currently have? I think not. Byron Scott has been put in a tough spot with that roster. Lakers are lucky to have 11 wins, especially being in the Western conference.
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- Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 11:15am #961708
  
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  Why? Because the Lakers should have a far better record than they currently have? I think not. Byron Scott has been put in a tough spot with that roster. Lakers are lucky to have 11 wins, especially being in the Western conference.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 12:06am #961753

LazarusMunoz
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Gotta put Byron Scott on this list
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 3:02am #961625

Lotto Stud
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This makes me appreciate having Frank Lawrence even more, before things got too hectic.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 3:02am #961763

Lotto Stud
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This makes me appreciate having Frank Lawrence even more, before things got too hectic.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 11:41am #961854

ItsVictorOladipo
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Brooks is one of those coaches who seems to skate by just because his team is so good. Even with his poor rotations and playbook (seemingly non-existent if you ask me) the Thunder still win alot because they have KD and Westbrook so his job seems to always be safe.
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Posted on: Thu, 01/08/2015 - 11:41am #961714

ItsVictorOladipo
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Brooks is one of those coaches who seems to skate by just because his team is so good. Even with his poor rotations and playbook (seemingly non-existent if you ask me) the Thunder still win alot because they have KD and Westbrook so his job seems to always be safe.
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