The Hornets flat out suck this year!

They are currently having a terrible season. I was looking at the same stats that you posted. They definitely need a change in the line up if not a trade. I expected them to have a lower playoff seed. They really need something from the forward positions.

They are currently having a terrible season. I was looking at the same stats that you posted. They definitely need a change in the line up if not a trade. I expected them to have a lower playoff seed. They really need something from the forward positions.

If things continue to go this way they need to start giving Vonleh and Hairston more minutes.  Vonleh isn’t going to get any better sitting on the bench and Marvin is still a sorry excuse for a starter.  While I do agree with bringing young players along slowly, I just don’t think the Hornets have the pieces to compete this year(or at this moment at least).  Which brings me back to increasing Vonleh and Hairston’s minutes.  They’re struggling to find points and given the opportunity Hairston can provide that for them (currently 38% from deep).  Vonleh will be a stud in this league someday and it couldn’t hurt to throw him in the mix of an already struggling forward rotation.  There’s plenty of time to figure it out, I could still see them moving up and snagging a 7 or 8 seed.

If things continue to go this way they need to start giving Vonleh and Hairston more minutes.  Vonleh isn’t going to get any better sitting on the bench and Marvin is still a sorry excuse for a starter.  While I do agree with bringing young players along slowly, I just don’t think the Hornets have the pieces to compete this year(or at this moment at least).  Which brings me back to increasing Vonleh and Hairston’s minutes.  They’re struggling to find points and given the opportunity Hairston can provide that for them (currently 38% from deep).  Vonleh will be a stud in this league someday and it couldn’t hurt to throw him in the mix of an already struggling forward rotation.  There’s plenty of time to figure it out, I could still see them moving up and snagging a 7 or 8 seed.

 Can we agree that Charlotte needs to move on from Kemba? He simply is not that good.

 Can we agree that Charlotte needs to move on from Kemba? He simply is not that good.

The main problem is Stephenson. He just doesnt fit the Hornets. Yes, hes getting the rebounds 8.2 and assists 5.5 but i expected him to score around 14-15 ppg. Whats worse is his shooting of 37%fg 21% 3pt and 61% ft. He is exactly the opposite of what Kemba (slasher) and Al(low post) needs, which is a guard or a 3 that can shoot and spread the floor. Too bad they didn’t sign Hayward. Every game from the Hornets, I am waiting for Lance to reach 15 and shoot atleast 50% from the floor but I don’t know if it will ever come this season.

The main problem is Stephenson. He just doesnt fit the Hornets. Yes, hes getting the rebounds 8.2 and assists 5.5 but i expected him to score around 14-15 ppg. Whats worse is his shooting of 37%fg 21% 3pt and 61% ft. He is exactly the opposite of what Kemba (slasher) and Al(low post) needs, which is a guard or a 3 that can shoot and spread the floor. Too bad they didn’t sign Hayward. Every game from the Hornets, I am waiting for Lance to reach 15 and shoot atleast 50% from the floor but I don’t know if it will ever come this season.

They have ball stoppers / Iso guys in Stephenson, Walker and Jefferson. Walker and Stephenson should learn to coexist, the problem is both guys need the ball to be effective but there’s only one ball in the court. Last year, Kemba had playmaking duties while Lance had the benefit of playing with a non-traditional point guard in George Hill so he gets the ball more often

They have ball stoppers / Iso guys in Stephenson, Walker and Jefferson. Walker and Stephenson should learn to coexist, the problem is both guys need the ball to be effective but there’s only one ball in the court. Last year, Kemba had playmaking duties while Lance had the benefit of playing with a non-traditional point guard in George Hill so he gets the ball more often

Honestly alot of the problem is kemba, he has been over dribbling a ton. I like what stephenson is doing wish he would score more but he does things on the court that you need. At this point he is a glorified role player that you really need on the floor most game. Zeller needs more min along side AL jefferson, Al jefferson D is carlos boozer level. Brightside is they are in the eastern conference and just need a good string of games to get back in the flow.

Honestly alot of the problem is kemba, he has been over dribbling a ton. I like what stephenson is doing wish he would score more but he does things on the court that you need. At this point he is a glorified role player that you really need on the floor most game. Zeller needs more min along side AL jefferson, Al jefferson D is carlos boozer level. Brightside is they are in the eastern conference and just need a good string of games to get back in the flow.

I think they really miss Josh McRoberts. His passing out of the past did wonders for their chemistry, ball movement, and the crispness in their offense.

I think they really miss Josh McRoberts. His passing out of the past did wonders for their chemistry, ball movement, and the crispness in their offense.

When you go into the season hoping to start 3 bellow-average or worse three-point shooters (Kemba, Lance, MKG), you deserve to be 4-11. Starting "not CP3or Deron Williams" at the 4 is just icing on the cake.

When you go into the season hoping to start 3 bellow-average or worse three-point shooters (Kemba, Lance, MKG), you deserve to be 4-11. Starting "not CP3or Deron Williams" at the 4 is just icing on the cake.

 Still feel like they really wasted their pick with Vonleh, it isn’t as much that I’m maybe lower on him than others (and obviously the hornets) but the fact he isn’t going to give you anything really as a rookie who only played one year at Indiana and also considering they already just had taken Zeller and the front court is their strength, they should’ve gone for a perimiter scorer/ 3-point shooter or moved the pick to get a vet who could produced (that’s honestly what they should’ve done).

Drafting McDermott or trading for someone like Afflalo would’ve helped this team, although I’m not sure enough to fix their current problems.

 Still feel like they really wasted their pick with Vonleh, it isn’t as much that I’m maybe lower on him than others (and obviously the hornets) but the fact he isn’t going to give you anything really as a rookie who only played one year at Indiana and also considering they already just had taken Zeller and the front court is their strength, they should’ve gone for a perimiter scorer/ 3-point shooter or moved the pick to get a vet who could produced (that’s honestly what they should’ve done).

Drafting McDermott or trading for someone like Afflalo would’ve helped this team, although I’m not sure enough to fix their current problems.

Last year no one expected them to be good and they snuck up on a lot of teams. This year they are not sneaking up on anyone. The starting backcourt of Stephenson and Walker just doesn’t work together. Walker is too small and dribbles too much and would probably be better served in a reduced role (such as an off the bench instant offense guy). Stephenson is a great defender and rebounder when focused but can’t shoot and is turnover prone. Kidd-Gilchrist is a great defender and energy guy but you need to play him with a knock down shooter on the wing or it creates too many spacing issues. Neither Stephenson nor Henderson is that type of player

The loss of McRoberts really hurt them a lot more than most people thought it would, and they really haven’t found any sort of replacement for the type of versatility that he provided. Marvin Williams provides spacing but kills them defensively. Zeller is their best rim protector but it kills their spacing when they play him with Jefferson and I’m not sure vonleh will really be able to contribute much this year.

They aren’t an awful team. They are well-coached and play hard. Honestly they probably overachieved last season and that set expectations way too high relative to their talent level. People just assumed they would take that next step but its a lot easier said than done. In the eastern conference anything can happen and they could still turn it around and make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed.

Last year no one expected them to be good and they snuck up on a lot of teams. This year they are not sneaking up on anyone. The starting backcourt of Stephenson and Walker just doesn’t work together. Walker is too small and dribbles too much and would probably be better served in a reduced role (such as an off the bench instant offense guy). Stephenson is a great defender and rebounder when focused but can’t shoot and is turnover prone. Kidd-Gilchrist is a great defender and energy guy but you need to play him with a knock down shooter on the wing or it creates too many spacing issues. Neither Stephenson nor Henderson is that type of player

The loss of McRoberts really hurt them a lot more than most people thought it would, and they really haven’t found any sort of replacement for the type of versatility that he provided. Marvin Williams provides spacing but kills them defensively. Zeller is their best rim protector but it kills their spacing when they play him with Jefferson and I’m not sure vonleh will really be able to contribute much this year.

They aren’t an awful team. They are well-coached and play hard. Honestly they probably overachieved last season and that set expectations way too high relative to their talent level. People just assumed they would take that next step but its a lot easier said than done. In the eastern conference anything can happen and they could still turn it around and make the playoffs as a 7 or 8 seed.

 Most of their issues is shooting and MKG being out…  One good thing about Lance is that he’s playing at an All-Star level everywhere else on the court.

Kemba never been "that" good to me…  He’s always been an inefficient volume scorer…  The thing is they should allow Lance to do more of the PG duty because it’s not Kemba’s strong suit…  I actually think this team is put together quite nicely and think Lance along Kemba is a perfect mesh for their styles…  Issue is Kemba doesn’t contain his man defensively and big Al doesn’t protect the paint…  They’re missing a shot blocking big man which is something Al Jefferson has been missing his entire career…  Teams that feature him down low have to play good team defense…  

I still see them as a playoff team once they get it going…  Remember we’re not even a quarter into the season yet.   Adjusting to new pieces takes time…  They’re not getting blown out either so mainly improving the  shooting woes and a couple stops will do wonders for this team

 Most of their issues is shooting and MKG being out…  One good thing about Lance is that he’s playing at an All-Star level everywhere else on the court.

Kemba never been "that" good to me…  He’s always been an inefficient volume scorer…  The thing is they should allow Lance to do more of the PG duty because it’s not Kemba’s strong suit…  I actually think this team is put together quite nicely and think Lance along Kemba is a perfect mesh for their styles…  Issue is Kemba doesn’t contain his man defensively and big Al doesn’t protect the paint…  They’re missing a shot blocking big man which is something Al Jefferson has been missing his entire career…  Teams that feature him down low have to play good team defense…  

I still see them as a playoff team once they get it going…  Remember we’re not even a quarter into the season yet.   Adjusting to new pieces takes time…  They’re not getting blown out either so mainly improving the  shooting woes and a couple stops will do wonders for this team

 Very good points by most of the guys above. I agree that Marvin Williams has been disappointing and Lance Stephenson has yet to find a settled role on the team.

Please don’t forget that in 2012 this team had the worse season in NBA history and they only won 21 games in 2012-13 so was last season perhaps a one off bounce and now they are perhaps back where we thought they might have been last season. I hope this isn’t the case but after last year, the signing of Stephenson, the return of the Hornets name did some of us get too caught up in the feel good factor in Charlotte?

 Very good points by most of the guys above. I agree that Marvin Williams has been disappointing and Lance Stephenson has yet to find a settled role on the team.

Please don’t forget that in 2012 this team had the worse season in NBA history and they only won 21 games in 2012-13 so was last season perhaps a one off bounce and now they are perhaps back where we thought they might have been last season. I hope this isn’t the case but after last year, the signing of Stephenson, the return of the Hornets name did some of us get too caught up in the feel good factor in Charlotte?