Gordon Hayward and the jazz Future moves

 It’s hard to say. I think Exum will eventually take the reins as the pg of the future for the Jazz. But that doesn’t mean Burke would have to be moved, atleast not right away. With his scoring ability I think he would make a really good 6th man.

Another guy I can see becoming expendable is Enes Kanter. With the emergence of Rudy Gobert I think Kanter is more likely to be moved atleast in the short term than Burke is. Kanters offense is very good. His back to the basket game is one of the best around, and he’s stretched is shooting range out to the 3 point line. But his D leaves more than something to be desired and his rebounding is down. He’s also in the last year of his rookie deal, and imo he’s the odd man out in Utah.

 It’s hard to say. I think Exum will eventually take the reins as the pg of the future for the Jazz. But that doesn’t mean Burke would have to be moved, atleast not right away. With his scoring ability I think he would make a really good 6th man.

Another guy I can see becoming expendable is Enes Kanter. With the emergence of Rudy Gobert I think Kanter is more likely to be moved atleast in the short term than Burke is. Kanters offense is very good. His back to the basket game is one of the best around, and he’s stretched is shooting range out to the 3 point line. But his D leaves more than something to be desired and his rebounding is down. He’s also in the last year of his rookie deal, and imo he’s the odd man out in Utah.

I can’t express how much I disagree with your evaluation. Burke is ball dominant PG, he pounds the ball at the floor for hours(figuratively speaking) before deciding to get rid off it or shooting. The fact that he shoots a ton doesn’t mean that the ball doesn’t stick in his hands and furthermore if he keeps shooting as poorly as he did in his rookie season and as poorly as he’s been shooting now this season(32% from the field, 24% from 3), he is nobody’s future PG.

On the other hand Exum has shown some great passing and vision as well as really unselfish play. The ball practically never sticks in his hands. When his initial attack doesn’t work, he moves it… he’s been unselfish to a fault really. That’s polar opposite to Burke, who is known to play “Hero ball” and to look for his own shot before looking at anybody else. Even with his shot being as poor as it has been, he’s still chucking shot after shot for 11.5FGA per game…

When Exum gets his body in order and in shape and figures some things out he’d be the perfect PG for Quin Snyder’s system, which relies on A LOT of passing, movement and pace, something I see Exum excelling at and something that Burke has actually struggled with.

Hayward’s success will be dependent on the system he plays in and it seems like the system suits him greatly right now. Gordon playing with the ball in his hands all the time was what happened last year and it was what lead his %s to drop to career low 40 and 30. He works much better in a system where the ball is shared so he can use his vision/passing to facilitate as well as get more open looks as opposed to playing iso-ball.

I can’t express how much I disagree with your evaluation. Burke is ball dominant PG, he pounds the ball at the floor for hours(figuratively speaking) before deciding to get rid off it or shooting. The fact that he shoots a ton doesn’t mean that the ball doesn’t stick in his hands and furthermore if he keeps shooting as poorly as he did in his rookie season and as poorly as he’s been shooting now this season(32% from the field, 24% from 3), he is nobody’s future PG.

On the other hand Exum has shown some great passing and vision as well as really unselfish play. The ball practically never sticks in his hands. When his initial attack doesn’t work, he moves it… he’s been unselfish to a fault really. That’s polar opposite to Burke, who is known to play “Hero ball” and to look for his own shot before looking at anybody else. Even with his shot being as poor as it has been, he’s still chucking shot after shot for 11.5FGA per game…

When Exum gets his body in order and in shape and figures some things out he’d be the perfect PG for Quin Snyder’s system, which relies on A LOT of passing, movement and pace, something I see Exum excelling at and something that Burke has actually struggled with.

Hayward’s success will be dependent on the system he plays in and it seems like the system suits him greatly right now. Gordon playing with the ball in his hands all the time was what happened last year and it was what lead his %s to drop to career low 40 and 30. He works much better in a system where the ball is shared so he can use his vision/passing to facilitate as well as get more open looks as opposed to playing iso-ball.

"Idk if it’s just me but I think if you’re going to have Hayward play to his potential then he needs the ball in his hands. With the Jazz drafting exum I just don’t think he fits well with Hayward. Burke seems to be a better fit because of his shooting ability. "

The logic is here, but I think you’re over-simplifying the shooting ability of Burke. Passing over Burke’s horrid efficiency from the floor, as well as any comparison of the duo’s stats this season (Exum is shooting better from deep than Burke is); it’s important to recognize that Trey and Dante both shoot the ball in different ways. Trey Burke has to be the worst catch-and-shoot perimeter player on the team. He’s really only a good shooter off the dribble, which counters your argument that he’d be a better fit next to Hayward because he could play off the ball better. Last season, Burke was good at three things (shooting off the bounce, running the pick-and-roll, and making free-throws), and he required the ball in his hands to do any of them.

Exum, conversely, is a decent catch-and-shoot player. In fact, I’m ~80% sure that every jump shot he’s made this season has been via spot-up opportunities. I’m sure Jazz fans have noticed the stark contrast between Exum taking these shots, and his painful-looking attempts to shoot off the dribble (of which he’s shooting ~0%). Also, unlike Burke, Exum has is a decent slasher and can finish around the basket with some success.

If you think Hayward needs the ball in his hands more, Exum makes infinitely more sense than Burke does.

"Idk if it’s just me but I think if you’re going to have Hayward play to his potential then he needs the ball in his hands. With the Jazz drafting exum I just don’t think he fits well with Hayward. Burke seems to be a better fit because of his shooting ability. "

The logic is here, but I think you’re over-simplifying the shooting ability of Burke. Passing over Burke’s horrid efficiency from the floor, as well as any comparison of the duo’s stats this season (Exum is shooting better from deep than Burke is); it’s important to recognize that Trey and Dante both shoot the ball in different ways. Trey Burke has to be the worst catch-and-shoot perimeter player on the team. He’s really only a good shooter off the dribble, which counters your argument that he’d be a better fit next to Hayward because he could play off the ball better. Last season, Burke was good at three things (shooting off the bounce, running the pick-and-roll, and making free-throws), and he required the ball in his hands to do any of them.

Exum, conversely, is a decent catch-and-shoot player. In fact, I’m ~80% sure that every jump shot he’s made this season has been via spot-up opportunities. I’m sure Jazz fans have noticed the stark contrast between Exum taking these shots, and his painful-looking attempts to shoot off the dribble (of which he’s shooting ~0%). Also, unlike Burke, Exum has is a decent slasher and can finish around the basket with some success.

If you think Hayward needs the ball in his hands more, Exum makes infinitely more sense than Burke does.

 Hayward, Favours and Burks are all inked on new deals now so we assume they are in place. The Kanter-Favours issue we’ve discussed many times before and with Gobert’s development I do wonder if Kanter might be the odd man out. If they are going to get trade value for him they will need to move him soon as teams will not give up a huge amount for him on deadline day if they know they could make a FA offer to him in a couple of months.

Exum is very much a work in progress and I see them using a 3 man backcourt rotation going forward for the next few years, the guys can interchange and there should always be a good ballhandler on court.

 Hayward, Favours and Burks are all inked on new deals now so we assume they are in place. The Kanter-Favours issue we’ve discussed many times before and with Gobert’s development I do wonder if Kanter might be the odd man out. If they are going to get trade value for him they will need to move him soon as teams will not give up a huge amount for him on deadline day if they know they could make a FA offer to him in a couple of months.

Exum is very much a work in progress and I see them using a 3 man backcourt rotation going forward for the next few years, the guys can interchange and there should always be a good ballhandler on court.

 Again I’m not blaing Quin Snyder because he is a genius offensive coach but Burks seems to be really passive in his offense. Maybe it will come to him as the season goes on, I hope so. Really, is there a better ball-handling 2-guard in the league han him, seriously speaking? I think he, Harden and Joe Johnson are the top 3 ball handling 2-guards in the league with their places being interchangeable. And who does not want to see at least one acrobatic shot per game from this guy? I hope he bulks up and becomes more aggresive cus this guy is a stud.

 Again I’m not blaing Quin Snyder because he is a genius offensive coach but Burks seems to be really passive in his offense. Maybe it will come to him as the season goes on, I hope so. Really, is there a better ball-handling 2-guard in the league han him, seriously speaking? I think he, Harden and Joe Johnson are the top 3 ball handling 2-guards in the league with their places being interchangeable. And who does not want to see at least one acrobatic shot per game from this guy? I hope he bulks up and becomes more aggresive cus this guy is a stud.

"Really, is there a better ball-handling 2-guard in the league han him, seriously speaking? I think he, Harden and Joe Johnson are the top 3 ball handling 2-guards in the league with their places being interchangeable."

See Crawford, Jamal

"Really, is there a better ball-handling 2-guard in the league han him, seriously speaking? I think he, Harden and Joe Johnson are the top 3 ball handling 2-guards in the league with their places being interchangeable."

See Crawford, Jamal

Top 5 for sure…

Alec Burks is a dynamic G but I think he and Hayward can’t coexist with each other if the other is to become an All Star…

I’d free Alec Burks and trade him for a stretch 4 to play around Favors and Gobert…Kanter may have to be let go as well, I feel like he’s going to be stunted in his development if he’s behind Favors/Gobert and a 3 pt shooting 4…

Top 5 for sure…

Alec Burks is a dynamic G but I think he and Hayward can’t coexist with each other if the other is to become an All Star…

I’d free Alec Burks and trade him for a stretch 4 to play around Favors and Gobert…Kanter may have to be let go as well, I feel like he’s going to be stunted in his development if he’s behind Favors/Gobert and a 3 pt shooting 4…