Can Lakers Pull a Trade to Help the Future?

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Posted on: Sat, 11/01/2014 - 10:14pm #58303

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I’m having difficulty figuring out if the Lakers can even pull off anything that would help the future. The season is obviously going to be a bit wasted. These are the best options I could think of…
Thunder: Jordan Hill for Kendrick Perkins and Jeremy Lamb (or a low 1st round pick)
Timberwolves: Steve Nash for Kevin Martin and Shabazz Muhammad
Knicks: Kobe Bryant for Amare Staudamire and 1-3 first round draft picks
Pelicans: Steve Nash and Nick Young for Eric Gordon (doesn’t work once the Disabled Player Exception comes through)
Obviously, Kobe being moved is unlikely because fans might riot and their TV deal hinges on viewers… as much as he’d benefit from returning to Phil. The Pelicans don’t have a draft pick to give, so just Eric Gordon doesn’t make much sense for the Lakers. For the Timberolves, it would just be a contract absorber and you might have to throw in Chase Budinger.
Hoops Rumors says they’re pursuing Quincy Miller. So, at least there’s that.
Am I missing any options?
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Posted on: Sat, 11/01/2014 - 10:39pm #953932

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I don’t think these trades are benefitial for both teams
Thunder : Yeah getting rid of Perkins’ contract isn’t bad (good game last night Perk btw ) but giving up Lamb or a pick also for Jordan Hill , i think it’s a bad trade for OKC
Wolves: seems unrealistic IMO , also i don’t se Shabazz and Martin help the Lakers a lot in the future
Knicks: Come on , you can’t trade Kobe
Pelicans: you said it.

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Posted on: Sat, 11/01/2014 - 10:39pm #954071

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I don’t think these trades are benefitial for both teams
Thunder : Yeah getting rid of Perkins’ contract isn’t bad (good game last night Perk btw ) but giving up Lamb or a pick also for Jordan Hill , i think it’s a bad trade for OKC
Wolves: seems unrealistic IMO , also i don’t se Shabazz and Martin help the Lakers a lot in the future
Knicks: Come on , you can’t trade Kobe
Pelicans: you said it.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 1:01am #953938

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Nash to Toronto, Hansbrough and Fields to Lakers. Raptors finally get Nash, Hansbrough can be a hustle playing for Lakers and Fields does play well with Lin. All contracts are expiring. Helps Toronto as they have too many players and not enough minutes, and Nash can be a pretend coach and also the face of the team for the locals.
Lin is a useful expring contract. So is Nash. Lin plus Nash, and minor pieces, could land someone on max-type money. If a team out there is clearing players out.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 1:01am #954077

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Nash to Toronto, Hansbrough and Fields to Lakers. Raptors finally get Nash, Hansbrough can be a hustle playing for Lakers and Fields does play well with Lin. All contracts are expiring. Helps Toronto as they have too many players and not enough minutes, and Nash can be a pretend coach and also the face of the team for the locals.
Lin is a useful expring contract. So is Nash. Lin plus Nash, and minor pieces, could land someone on max-type money. If a team out there is clearing players out.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 1:02am #953940

morestealsthanscores
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Just no point. The best player available is the #1 pick in the 2015 draft.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 7:29am #953960
  
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  Amen to that. Keeping their top 5 pick should be their top and only priority. Plus they have a pick that I believe will land between 15 and 20 from the Rockets. If they can somehow keep their pick it expedites the rebuild process a little quicker. If they lose it it’s going to be extremely damaging.
  If the Lakers are going to make moves (which I hope they do because they seem to be on track for 30 wins. ) I hope they make moves that will help stack more losses. The top 5 pick is really all I care about. A player like Mudiay, Okafor,Towns, Johnson or Oubre would all help the Lakers immediately and all are a position of need. Paired with hopefully a healthy Randles and its a decent start st the future.
  Right now my order of preference for fit with the Lakers would be.
  1) Mudiay. He would finally give them a long term solution at the point.
  2) Okafor. I think he will be comparable to Demarcus Cousins but without all the headaches. Almost exact same size and a similar skill set. Cousins is a bit better from the elbow. Okafor probably a little more effective with his back to the basket. I think him and Randles would compliment each other nicely.
  3) Karl Towns. I think he will be able to play the 5 in the league though I seem him and about an 18 and 8 or 19 and 9 guy in the league at best. Something about him when I watch him play that just seems a little Javale McGeeish to me, not necessarily a good thing.
  4) Johnson. I love the winning mentality and defensive tools. In a league dominated on the wing he would be worth a top 5 pick just off effort and intangibles alone. Couple that with the fact that he has shown improvements on the offensive end and I like him more than Oubre.
  5) the last would be Oubre. Not sure how I feel about him yet. Seems to be a little too selfish for my liking but he is loaded with talent.
  
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 5:36pm #954159
    
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    Okafor would be good for a team that already has rim protection at PF, but Randle doesn’t do that. Mudiay would be better for them, but I’d like to see Jordan Clarkson at PG (though Byron Scott thinks he’s a SG for some reason).
    For them I like…
    1) Karl Towns: He’s so great around the rim, has a good touch, has a good jumper, and is decently athletic. Frankly, he’s more a PF in his style, but he’s already 7’0″ and 250. My only concern is he seems a little soft for a C. He’d be an offensive force.
    2) Stanly Johnson: He might actually be the best for the team. He can drive and really open things up (which they’ll really need post-Kobe). He can also be a lock-down guy of defense. He might end up the biggest difference maker in the draft… but his shot looks SO bad. Michael-Kid Gilchrist bad. Hope he can fix it.
    3) Kelly Oubre: Great athlete, love the shot. Having a 3 who can hit the 3 is real important now. He has one of the best looking shots out there. He’s also a heck of an athlete. For some reason, he can’t drive all that well. Otherwise, there’d be no stopping him.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 5:36pm #954019
    
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    Okafor would be good for a team that already has rim protection at PF, but Randle doesn’t do that. Mudiay would be better for them, but I’d like to see Jordan Clarkson at PG (though Byron Scott thinks he’s a SG for some reason).
    For them I like…
    1) Karl Towns: He’s so great around the rim, has a good touch, has a good jumper, and is decently athletic. Frankly, he’s more a PF in his style, but he’s already 7’0″ and 250. My only concern is he seems a little soft for a C. He’d be an offensive force.
    2) Stanly Johnson: He might actually be the best for the team. He can drive and really open things up (which they’ll really need post-Kobe). He can also be a lock-down guy of defense. He might end up the biggest difference maker in the draft… but his shot looks SO bad. Michael-Kid Gilchrist bad. Hope he can fix it.
    3) Kelly Oubre: Great athlete, love the shot. Having a 3 who can hit the 3 is real important now. He has one of the best looking shots out there. He’s also a heck of an athlete. For some reason, he can’t drive all that well. Otherwise, there’d be no stopping him.
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- Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 7:29am #954099
  
  Magic Jordan
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  Amen to that. Keeping their top 5 pick should be their top and only priority. Plus they have a pick that I believe will land between 15 and 20 from the Rockets. If they can somehow keep their pick it expedites the rebuild process a little quicker. If they lose it it’s going to be extremely damaging.
  If the Lakers are going to make moves (which I hope they do because they seem to be on track for 30 wins. ) I hope they make moves that will help stack more losses. The top 5 pick is really all I care about. A player like Mudiay, Okafor,Towns, Johnson or Oubre would all help the Lakers immediately and all are a position of need. Paired with hopefully a healthy Randles and its a decent start st the future.
  Right now my order of preference for fit with the Lakers would be.
  1) Mudiay. He would finally give them a long term solution at the point.
  2) Okafor. I think he will be comparable to Demarcus Cousins but without all the headaches. Almost exact same size and a similar skill set. Cousins is a bit better from the elbow. Okafor probably a little more effective with his back to the basket. I think him and Randles would compliment each other nicely.
  3) Karl Towns. I think he will be able to play the 5 in the league though I seem him and about an 18 and 8 or 19 and 9 guy in the league at best. Something about him when I watch him play that just seems a little Javale McGeeish to me, not necessarily a good thing.
  4) Johnson. I love the winning mentality and defensive tools. In a league dominated on the wing he would be worth a top 5 pick just off effort and intangibles alone. Couple that with the fact that he has shown improvements on the offensive end and I like him more than Oubre.
  5) the last would be Oubre. Not sure how I feel about him yet. Seems to be a little too selfish for my liking but he is loaded with talent.
  
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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 1:02am #954079

morestealsthanscores
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Just no point. The best player available is the #1 pick in the 2015 draft.
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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 11:22am #954125

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If the team continues to struggle then the front office may look to make a move or two if there were takers for any of the rotation players or Nash’s expiring deal.
The Lakers would not really want to take on extra salaries for next year unless it was to aquire a All Star level player as they will be wanting freedom in the FA market next summer.
I do wonder if this could be one of the worse Laker teams ever or certainly in recent years, Take out Black Mamba and the rest of the roster looks a real lottery team.
The Lakers are paying Kobe mega money and he is back playing but I think they have to really start thinking Post Kobe now and planning long term. Don’t try to make a short term fix, look for younger guys with upside or top level younger guys. Don’t a Brooklyn type move where they gave away 3 picks for KG and PP.
The Lakers will always be a very attractive FA destination and I’d figure they will land a top talent sooner rather than later, if they still have Kobe in situ then and they can get one more run with him then it would be a bonus.
It would be interesting to see what sort of salary Kobe might take in 2016 as with the new TV deal and the cap possibly rising, if he took a big cut then they would have major FA room.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 11:22am #953986

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If the team continues to struggle then the front office may look to make a move or two if there were takers for any of the rotation players or Nash’s expiring deal.
The Lakers would not really want to take on extra salaries for next year unless it was to aquire a All Star level player as they will be wanting freedom in the FA market next summer.
I do wonder if this could be one of the worse Laker teams ever or certainly in recent years, Take out Black Mamba and the rest of the roster looks a real lottery team.
The Lakers are paying Kobe mega money and he is back playing but I think they have to really start thinking Post Kobe now and planning long term. Don’t try to make a short term fix, look for younger guys with upside or top level younger guys. Don’t a Brooklyn type move where they gave away 3 picks for KG and PP.
The Lakers will always be a very attractive FA destination and I’d figure they will land a top talent sooner rather than later, if they still have Kobe in situ then and they can get one more run with him then it would be a bonus.
It would be interesting to see what sort of salary Kobe might take in 2016 as with the new TV deal and the cap possibly rising, if he took a big cut then they would have major FA room.

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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 8:09pm #954184

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I do believe the Lakers should seek to trade Kobe. I’m assuming Kobe has a no-trade clause, but if I were him, I’d look to go elsewhere. He could clearly help out another team to win it all, and the Lakers aren’t going anywhere. If I were him, I’d want to go somewhere with a chance at winning. He really only has 3 years max left, so why not go somewhere else and try to get another ring?
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Posted on: Sun, 11/02/2014 - 8:09pm #954046

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I do believe the Lakers should seek to trade Kobe. I’m assuming Kobe has a no-trade clause, but if I were him, I’d look to go elsewhere. He could clearly help out another team to win it all, and the Lakers aren’t going anywhere. If I were him, I’d want to go somewhere with a chance at winning. He really only has 3 years max left, so why not go somewhere else and try to get another ring?
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 7:16am #954235

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No way Kobe can tolerate this level of losing and poor play. He has to be open to a trade right? I would not mind seeing them re-visit the trade to Chicago.
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 7:16am #954096

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No way Kobe can tolerate this level of losing and poor play. He has to be open to a trade right? I would not mind seeing them re-visit the trade to Chicago.
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:10pm #954132

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Knicks are more likely to make a trade to hurt the future unfortunatly for Lakers fans. Kobe is signed for one more season after 14-15 and they will attempt to surround him with talent. Look for some buyout trades like Jeff Green, Josh Smith or other big contracts for some of thier expiring contracts and future assets. Boozer could end up a decent trade piece isnt his contract expiring.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 3:32pm #954140
  
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  Firstly, Boozer looks awful. Just awful. Sluggish and disinterested.Secondly, he can’t be traded during the year because he was picked up off amnesty waivers.
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- Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 3:32pm #954279
  
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  Firstly, Boozer looks awful. Just awful. Sluggish and disinterested.Secondly, he can’t be traded during the year because he was picked up off amnesty waivers.
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:10pm #954271

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Knicks are more likely to make a trade to hurt the future unfortunatly for Lakers fans. Kobe is signed for one more season after 14-15 and they will attempt to surround him with talent. Look for some buyout trades like Jeff Green, Josh Smith or other big contracts for some of thier expiring contracts and future assets. Boozer could end up a decent trade piece isnt his contract expiring.
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:11pm #954134

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Lakers not Knicks*
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:11pm #954273

OhCanada-
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Lakers not Knicks*
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:39pm #954136

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Josh Smith would be an interesting one for the Lakers but might they go all out for the younger Greg Monroe via FA next summer I wonder.
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Posted on: Mon, 11/03/2014 - 1:39pm #954275

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Josh Smith would be an interesting one for the Lakers but might they go all out for the younger Greg Monroe via FA next summer I wonder.
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