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- Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 2:42pm #58131

valentineI’m interested in finding out which former draft picks labelled as "busts" still have an opportunity to become the player they promised to be.
I use the term "bust" lightly. It basically applies to anyone who has been disappointing despite high expectations.
My pick is Anthony Bennett. I still think this guy will be as good as Larry Johnson if he can stay in shape.
Extra marks for those who go further back to previous drafts. For example, can Austin Rivers prove people wrong?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:15pm #951322

r377ParticipantOtto Porter. I still think Jordan Hamilton should develop and be a decent pro. Ed Davis should be a decent starter somewhere. John Jenkins
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:15pm #951189

r377ParticipantOtto Porter. I still think Jordan Hamilton should develop and be a decent pro. Ed Davis should be a decent starter somewhere. John Jenkins
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:26pm #951326
BenchWarmerParticipantAnthony Randolph, hes going over seas now and hopefully he turns into a gerald green type case. When given in the 30 minute range his averages were something like 17 and 10. Not saying he will vome back and be a star but he has the tools to be a good starter, all the tools and more importantly doesnt seem to be completely lost or a head case. Hopefully overseas he gets a bit of humility andalso improves his work eethic, anyhoe I could see him back in the league in a couple years.
Another guy I liked in college was Jared Cunnigham.0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:26pm #951193
BenchWarmerParticipantAnthony Randolph, hes going over seas now and hopefully he turns into a gerald green type case. When given in the 30 minute range his averages were something like 17 and 10. Not saying he will vome back and be a star but he has the tools to be a good starter, all the tools and more importantly doesnt seem to be completely lost or a head case. Hopefully overseas he gets a bit of humility andalso improves his work eethic, anyhoe I could see him back in the league in a couple years.
Another guy I liked in college was Jared Cunnigham.0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:30pm #951328
arowsky205ParticipantDennis Schroeder. I loved him going into last year’s draft. He just turned 21 and I still believe he has star potential. He probably has a little more maturing and developing to do before he breaks out, but I think he will become a big name during the 2015-16 season.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:30pm #951195
arowsky205ParticipantDennis Schroeder. I loved him going into last year’s draft. He just turned 21 and I still believe he has star potential. He probably has a little more maturing and developing to do before he breaks out, but I think he will become a big name during the 2015-16 season.
0- Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 10:06pm #951404

XYRYXParticipantI would really love to see Schröder play a bigger role but the chances are pretty slim imo.
He started strong last year and then Shelvin Mack came in his way.
Schröder is burried behind Teague and Mack who they just resigened this offseason. Schröder really seems to be a poor mans version of Rondo with his handles and his vision but a change of scenery could really help him wich I highly doubt will happen.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 10:06pm #951270

XYRYXParticipantI would really love to see Schröder play a bigger role but the chances are pretty slim imo.
He started strong last year and then Shelvin Mack came in his way.
Schröder is burried behind Teague and Mack who they just resigened this offseason. Schröder really seems to be a poor mans version of Rondo with his handles and his vision but a change of scenery could really help him wich I highly doubt will happen.
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- Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:36pm #951332

RooneyParticipantArnett Moultrie can be better than what he has been judging from him cleaning his act up and having a good work ethic.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:36pm #951199

RooneyParticipantArnett Moultrie can be better than what he has been judging from him cleaning his act up and having a good work ethic.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:37pm #951334
Lotto StudParticipantPerry Jones III is one of my top guys for this list. I’ve been stressing for the long haul of him being shipped, and now he gets to prove his worth while Durant is out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 3:37pm #951201
Lotto StudParticipantPerry Jones III is one of my top guys for this list. I’ve been stressing for the long haul of him being shipped, and now he gets to prove his worth while Durant is out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:01pm #951344

AdamJCallejaParticipantStill confident Jeremy Lamb will wake up and become an all star.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:01pm #951211

AdamJCallejaParticipantStill confident Jeremy Lamb will wake up and become an all star.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:31pm #951352

Chilbert arenasParticipantMo Harkless, he’s only 21 entering his 3rd year. Not expecting a break out year this year, but I am expecting double digits scoring this year and a big jump the next.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:31pm #951219

Chilbert arenasParticipantMo Harkless, he’s only 21 entering his 3rd year. Not expecting a break out year this year, but I am expecting double digits scoring this year and a big jump the next.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:31pm #951354

rich.homie.mitchParticipantJimmer Fredette and Ben Mclemore. Jimmer will have some guys to learn from in NO from guys like eric gordon and maybe jrue holiday.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 4:31pm #951221

rich.homie.mitchParticipantJimmer Fredette and Ben Mclemore. Jimmer will have some guys to learn from in NO from guys like eric gordon and maybe jrue holiday.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 5:00pm #951358
raptors17ParticipantJeremy Lin at the time was probably the most exciting thing for knicks fans in a long time and im pretty sure david stern was smiling as "Linsanity" brought the league extre revenue. i feel as like he was labeled a bust by many in houstan because he was unable to recreate some form of that incerdible strech he had while playing for new york.
going into this year the lakers are not expected to compete for anything and lin will get plenty of oppertuinties as nashs injuries contiune to be an issue. look for him to have a better year on defense and put up some numbers playing off kobe
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 5:00pm #951225
raptors17ParticipantJeremy Lin at the time was probably the most exciting thing for knicks fans in a long time and im pretty sure david stern was smiling as "Linsanity" brought the league extre revenue. i feel as like he was labeled a bust by many in houstan because he was unable to recreate some form of that incerdible strech he had while playing for new york.
going into this year the lakers are not expected to compete for anything and lin will get plenty of oppertuinties as nashs injuries contiune to be an issue. look for him to have a better year on defense and put up some numbers playing off kobe
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 7:02am #951308

JoeWolf1Jeremy Lin a bust?
THe dude is an undrafted free agent. Nobody drafted him, yet he’s proved more valuable than dozens selected before him.
Lin is the opposite of a bust.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 3:31pm #951381
raptors17Participantyes jeremy lin has carved out a productive nba carrer as an undrafted free agent however most gms around the league and fans would say he didnt preform to the level of his contract do you agree? … bust doesnt hav mean not a good played my freind it justs a way of saying he did not live up to expectaions and jeremy lin as solid as he is was not worth the contract he got and im sure darryl morey would agree.
0- Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 3:41am #951577

JoeWolf1No dude, a bust is someone who was drafted too high. Darko is a bust with the 2nd pick, Lin as an undrafted free agent will never be a bust by it’s true definition.
Who have gone down as the biggest busts of all time? Guys with bad contracts?
I undserstand what you’re saying, and I’m sure Houston was disappointed in their investment, but that doesn’t mean your definition of bust is used by anyone else.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 3:41am #951442

JoeWolf1No dude, a bust is someone who was drafted too high. Darko is a bust with the 2nd pick, Lin as an undrafted free agent will never be a bust by it’s true definition.
Who have gone down as the biggest busts of all time? Guys with bad contracts?
I undserstand what you’re saying, and I’m sure Houston was disappointed in their investment, but that doesn’t mean your definition of bust is used by anyone else.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 3:31pm #951514
raptors17Participantyes jeremy lin has carved out a productive nba carrer as an undrafted free agent however most gms around the league and fans would say he didnt preform to the level of his contract do you agree? … bust doesnt hav mean not a good played my freind it justs a way of saying he did not live up to expectaions and jeremy lin as solid as he is was not worth the contract he got and im sure darryl morey would agree.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 8:16pm #951555
thricethefunParticipantHis contract was a bust.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 8:16pm #951421
thricethefunParticipantHis contract was a bust.
0- Posted on: Sat, 10/18/2014 - 7:37am #951868

TallmanNYCParticipantOnly because the Rockets got handed Harden on a silver platter. Lin needs the ball in his hands to get maximum effectiveness. But Harden is one of the top three or four guards on offense in the league.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 10/18/2014 - 7:37am #951732

TallmanNYCParticipantOnly because the Rockets got handed Harden on a silver platter. Lin needs the ball in his hands to get maximum effectiveness. But Harden is one of the top three or four guards on offense in the league.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 7:02am #951443

JoeWolf1Jeremy Lin a bust?
THe dude is an undrafted free agent. Nobody drafted him, yet he’s proved more valuable than dozens selected before him.
Lin is the opposite of a bust.
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- Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 5:48pm #951364
benny15Participantwell, some people consider MKG a bust for his draft pick, 2nd over-all, and not expanding his game yet after 2 full seasons in the league. i honestly think he’s fine and will be good. just one of those players who wont be in MIP contention but will make steady improvements in his game through the years.
personally for my team though, im hoping brandon rush would have a bounce back season after 2 less than impressive ones. i dont think he’ll ever live up to being a lottery pick, but i do still believe he could be a good rotational team player. when my warriors last had him, he defended well, moved the ball when he dint have a shot, took it when it was open. hoping he gets back to form and his outside shot becomes more reliable.
i dont think anyone honestly will believe that Wesley Johnson could live up to his draft selection, but he’s still in ideal situation for it to happen. he actually had a decent stat line last year, 9-4-1-1-1 with 1 three a game. if steve nash has any gas left in the tank and can play 50 games, it could help johnson get 3-4 more points and 12 PPG is not bad from a 4th or 5th option on the starting line-up since he does other things for the team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 5:48pm #951231
benny15Participantwell, some people consider MKG a bust for his draft pick, 2nd over-all, and not expanding his game yet after 2 full seasons in the league. i honestly think he’s fine and will be good. just one of those players who wont be in MIP contention but will make steady improvements in his game through the years.
personally for my team though, im hoping brandon rush would have a bounce back season after 2 less than impressive ones. i dont think he’ll ever live up to being a lottery pick, but i do still believe he could be a good rotational team player. when my warriors last had him, he defended well, moved the ball when he dint have a shot, took it when it was open. hoping he gets back to form and his outside shot becomes more reliable.
i dont think anyone honestly will believe that Wesley Johnson could live up to his draft selection, but he’s still in ideal situation for it to happen. he actually had a decent stat line last year, 9-4-1-1-1 with 1 three a game. if steve nash has any gas left in the tank and can play 50 games, it could help johnson get 3-4 more points and 12 PPG is not bad from a 4th or 5th option on the starting line-up since he does other things for the team.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 6:31pm #951374

Chilbert arenasParticipantMyers Leonard, still just 22 and a freak athlete just learning to play the game, I think he needs a team change. If I’m the Cavs I go after him and try to make him a rim protector, rebounding, lob catching freak like Tyson Chandler or Deandre Jordan
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 6:31pm #951241

Chilbert arenasParticipantMyers Leonard, still just 22 and a freak athlete just learning to play the game, I think he needs a team change. If I’m the Cavs I go after him and try to make him a rim protector, rebounding, lob catching freak like Tyson Chandler or Deandre Jordan
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:08am #951331

OhCanada-ParticipantMeyers Leonard is lost on defense and within rebounding schemes thats why he cant get off the pine. Thats the last thing the Cavs need.
0- Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 3:26pm #951648

username_takenParticipantContending teams have no time to develop lottery busts and hope they become something.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 3:26pm #951513

username_takenParticipantContending teams have no time to develop lottery busts and hope they become something.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:08am #951465

OhCanada-ParticipantMeyers Leonard is lost on defense and within rebounding schemes thats why he cant get off the pine. Thats the last thing the Cavs need.
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- Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 9:10pm #951396

King CaluchaParticipantWith the SG spot being so thin around the league… I can see Jeremy Lamb putting good numbers and becoming a top 10 for the position in the next couple of seasons.
I don’t think Schroeder is a bust at all. He showed great potential and he can still live up to it. The PG position is just too crowded at the moment.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 9:10pm #951263

King CaluchaParticipantWith the SG spot being so thin around the league… I can see Jeremy Lamb putting good numbers and becoming a top 10 for the position in the next couple of seasons.
I don’t think Schroeder is a bust at all. He showed great potential and he can still live up to it. The PG position is just too crowded at the moment.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 9:25pm #951398
khaled_a_dParticipantI am going for a wild one :Bismack Biyombo
I think he can turnout to be a good defensive C at the middle of his career when he is around 26-28 .a sort of a very good back up C or a starting C on a play-off team .some would say that he would still be a bust though I think considering that 201 wasn’t the strongest kind of draft it won’t be that bad0 - Posted on: Tue, 10/14/2014 - 9:25pm #951264
khaled_a_dParticipantI am going for a wild one :Bismack Biyombo
I think he can turnout to be a good defensive C at the middle of his career when he is around 26-28 .a sort of a very good back up C or a starting C on a play-off team .some would say that he would still be a bust though I think considering that 201 wasn’t the strongest kind of draft it won’t be that bad0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 4:43am #951300

omphalosParticipantGood topic.
I think Shabazz Muhammad can be a quality starter in the NBA, I think Harrison Barnes can bounce back from a soph slump and be a star down the line.
I think Jeremy Lamb can definitely be a starter on the Thunder if he’s just given minutes to develop.
Like Barnes he’s not suited to a 6th man role, both of them are better suited to being with the starters.
Ricky Ledo’s stock dropped after basically skipping college but I think he can be a great contributor soon.
Alec Burks didn’t pan out right away but I think his ability to get to the rim and ft line is just as elite as Klay Thompson’s shooting.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 4:43am #951434

omphalosParticipantGood topic.
I think Shabazz Muhammad can be a quality starter in the NBA, I think Harrison Barnes can bounce back from a soph slump and be a star down the line.
I think Jeremy Lamb can definitely be a starter on the Thunder if he’s just given minutes to develop.
Like Barnes he’s not suited to a 6th man role, both of them are better suited to being with the starters.
Ricky Ledo’s stock dropped after basically skipping college but I think he can be a great contributor soon.
Alec Burks didn’t pan out right away but I think his ability to get to the rim and ft line is just as elite as Klay Thompson’s shooting.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:09am #951333
machu46ParticipantTrying to think of some guys off the top of my head…
- Is it fair to pick a guy like Rubio? He hasn’t been like a monumental bust, but I think a lot of people have been disappointed in him, and I still believe he has what it takes to be a very good PG in the NBA.
- I still think Jimmer can be an effective PG in an off-ball kind of role, or be a good spark plug off the bench given the opportunity, but I’m not sure if he’ll get that in New Orleans or not.
- He probably isn’t a bust, but I think Brandon Knight could take the next step to becoming a good starter this year.
- One guy I really think can redeem himself this year is John Jenkins. He was a late 1st rounder to begin with, but he’s been terrible as a pro so far/had injury issues. On a Hawks team with playoff aspirations and very little at the SG position, I think he could blossom into a scorer off the bench for them.
- Evan Fournier is another guy that I still have faith in, though he hasn’t done much in the pre-season
I’m not going to try with any of the 2013 guys yet just because I think it’s too early to declare any of them to be busts.
0- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 3:46pm #951385

rich.homie.mitchParticipantI don’t think it would be fair to consider Rubio a "bust". Considering he is close to averaging a double double. 9.5 points 8.6 assists. He also averages 32 minutes a game last year and expecting more this year. I also think his ppg will go up since Klove is gone, assists might go down too tho. Great at getting steals too.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 3:46pm #951519

rich.homie.mitchParticipantI don’t think it would be fair to consider Rubio a "bust". Considering he is close to averaging a double double. 9.5 points 8.6 assists. He also averages 32 minutes a game last year and expecting more this year. I also think his ppg will go up since Klove is gone, assists might go down too tho. Great at getting steals too.
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- Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:09am #951466
machu46ParticipantTrying to think of some guys off the top of my head…
- Is it fair to pick a guy like Rubio? He hasn’t been like a monumental bust, but I think a lot of people have been disappointed in him, and I still believe he has what it takes to be a very good PG in the NBA.
- I still think Jimmer can be an effective PG in an off-ball kind of role, or be a good spark plug off the bench given the opportunity, but I’m not sure if he’ll get that in New Orleans or not.
- He probably isn’t a bust, but I think Brandon Knight could take the next step to becoming a good starter this year.
- One guy I really think can redeem himself this year is John Jenkins. He was a late 1st rounder to begin with, but he’s been terrible as a pro so far/had injury issues. On a Hawks team with playoff aspirations and very little at the SG position, I think he could blossom into a scorer off the bench for them.
- Evan Fournier is another guy that I still have faith in, though he hasn’t done much in the pre-season
I’m not going to try with any of the 2013 guys yet just because I think it’s too early to declare any of them to be busts.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:52am #951349
ncballerI think Jimmer has the chance to turn things around this season. He has outplayed Rivers thus far In the preseason. Especially if Evans starts, I think Jimmer could provide 18-24 min off the bench backing up both Holliday and Gordon provide 8-12 ppg.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 10/15/2014 - 10:52am #951482
ncballerI think Jimmer has the chance to turn things around this season. He has outplayed Rivers thus far In the preseason. Especially if Evans starts, I think Jimmer could provide 18-24 min off the bench backing up both Holliday and Gordon provide 8-12 ppg.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 1:43pm #951630
B-ball fanParticipantI think once he gets adjusted to the physicality of the NBA, he will be a nice player. He is just so intelligent moving off-the-ball and playing team basketball that he should be a nice team player at the very worst. And his shooting range looks like it has improved this summer, which was my biggest question with him. If he can capably knock down the three-ball, he should be fine, given how good he is in mid-range and how well he plays team basketball. And, I hate to say it, but the Beal injury will likely open up some minutes for him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 1:43pm #951495
B-ball fanParticipantI think once he gets adjusted to the physicality of the NBA, he will be a nice player. He is just so intelligent moving off-the-ball and playing team basketball that he should be a nice team player at the very worst. And his shooting range looks like it has improved this summer, which was my biggest question with him. If he can capably knock down the three-ball, he should be fine, given how good he is in mid-range and how well he plays team basketball. And, I hate to say it, but the Beal injury will likely open up some minutes for him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 1:51pm #951636

RooneyParticipantI don’t really know if you guys look at him as a bust or not but I say Jordan Hill. Most he ever averaged was 9.7 PPG and I expect him to do good this season as the starting Center for the Lakers.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 10/16/2014 - 1:51pm #951501

RooneyParticipantI don’t really know if you guys look at him as a bust or not but I say Jordan Hill. Most he ever averaged was 9.7 PPG and I expect him to do good this season as the starting Center for the Lakers.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 6:35am #951574
slash787ParticipantI have a list of guys that I still like who haven’t done a ton their first few seasons in no particular order.
Austin Rivers
Jimmer Fredette
Moe Harkless
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeremy Lamb
Tyler Zeller
Archie Goodwin
Dennis Schroder
Long shots (but I still like their talent)
Will Barton, Quincy Miller, Moultrie, PJ3
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 6:37am #951576

rich.homie.mitchParticipantI couldn’t call Will Barton a bust. Great energy guy, just needs to develop a shot. He plays really hard and wasn’t even selected in the first round.
0- Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 7:06am #951578
slash787ParticipantI agree. I would put Quincy Miller in the same category. They are guys that I think will do something productive that haven’t done anything up to this point for the most part.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 7:06am #951713
slash787ParticipantI agree. I would put Quincy Miller in the same category. They are guys that I think will do something productive that haven’t done anything up to this point for the most part.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 6:37am #951711

rich.homie.mitchParticipantI couldn’t call Will Barton a bust. Great energy guy, just needs to develop a shot. He plays really hard and wasn’t even selected in the first round.
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- Posted on: Fri, 10/17/2014 - 6:35am #951710
slash787ParticipantI have a list of guys that I still like who haven’t done a ton their first few seasons in no particular order.
Austin Rivers
Jimmer Fredette
Moe Harkless
Donatas Motiejunas
Jeremy Lamb
Tyler Zeller
Archie Goodwin
Dennis Schroder
Long shots (but I still like their talent)
Will Barton, Quincy Miller, Moultrie, PJ3
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