Kenneth Faried Stays In Denver

 Am I the only one thinking the nuggets might come to regret this contract? I guess since the new TV deal may bump up the cap so a 60 mil contract won’t be as large against the salary cap, but this feels like a bit of an overpay for a really good role player

 Am I the only one thinking the nuggets might come to regret this contract? I guess since the new TV deal may bump up the cap so a 60 mil contract won’t be as large against the salary cap, but this feels like a bit of an overpay for a really good role player

 To say being in team USA helped his stock is an understatement.

 To say being in team USA helped his stock is an understatement.

 Fair deal in my opinion. I figure with the new tv deal that 12m in a year or 2 will be worth about 9m on the current deal. Plus theyre getting Faried during his prime so its a good risk to take. 

 Fair deal in my opinion. I figure with the new tv deal that 12m in a year or 2 will be worth about 9m on the current deal. Plus theyre getting Faried during his prime so its a good risk to take. 

If Denver has a season where their roster has "normal" health, then they are still a first round and out team (or worse this year’s version of the 48-win Suns). When they are playing well, they are a fast and deep team that is really difficult to beat at home and largely mediocre on the road. If it didn’t work in 2013, and a similar team in Houston couldn’t make it work last year (fast pace, great at home, middling on the road, although to be fair no one compares to the defensive intensity of that Rocket team), then what is going to change? The best teams can beat you on your home floor in the playoffs. There are no 5 cities in 8 night trips in the playoffs. Hey, maybe Denver gets ESPN to have a couple days of hyping them up as dark horse title contenders again in February (right before they are on their network I’m sure), but that does not make it so. They have now paid Faried, McGee, Lawson, and Gallinari more than $10 million per year. What is the end game? They have a nice team, a very watchable team, but I wonder if they are going to get stuck at Step B. I can see why Golden State invested in Bogut and Iguodala, and they are probably a 2013 Carl Landry away at this point. Similarly, Portland puts forth near max offers next summer for any center that pushes Robin Lopez to his rightful place on the bench as a 3rd or 4th big, I get it. It might not guarantee a title run, but it would make all the sense in the world even if it costs $30 million per for Aldridge and that center. Denver just is not that close. The players they have locked in have clear limitations. McGee defines inconsistent. Faried is limited offensively and undersized as a defender.  Gallinari is not best utilized defending the tough scoring wings of the West, and now he does not have Iguodala to take the most challenging assignment.

It is easy to like Faried. He is a worker bee, but they are paying him for more than what he gives. Energy is good, but it should be cheap. He is getting close to twice what Taj Gibson received in only one more year (5-$60 million as opposed to 4-$33 million). Gibson is also a significantly better defender, and while neither is highly skilled Gibson is more developed on that end too. Mike Scott and Trevor Booker will run through a wall for you and they are more developed offensive players, but they got 3-$10 million amd 2-$10 million. I don’t even want to think about comparing what he received to what Atlanta signed Paul Millsap for one year ago, 2-$19 million. Make no mistake, there is a vast chasm that separates those two. If he became a restricted free agent next summer, and Denver matched someone’s 5-year $60 million deal, it would be different, but they are proactively overpaying him. 

If Denver has a season where their roster has "normal" health, then they are still a first round and out team (or worse this year’s version of the 48-win Suns). When they are playing well, they are a fast and deep team that is really difficult to beat at home and largely mediocre on the road. If it didn’t work in 2013, and a similar team in Houston couldn’t make it work last year (fast pace, great at home, middling on the road, although to be fair no one compares to the defensive intensity of that Rocket team), then what is going to change? The best teams can beat you on your home floor in the playoffs. There are no 5 cities in 8 night trips in the playoffs. Hey, maybe Denver gets ESPN to have a couple days of hyping them up as dark horse title contenders again in February (right before they are on their network I’m sure), but that does not make it so. They have now paid Faried, McGee, Lawson, and Gallinari more than $10 million per year. What is the end game? They have a nice team, a very watchable team, but I wonder if they are going to get stuck at Step B. I can see why Golden State invested in Bogut and Iguodala, and they are probably a 2013 Carl Landry away at this point. Similarly, Portland puts forth near max offers next summer for any center that pushes Robin Lopez to his rightful place on the bench as a 3rd or 4th big, I get it. It might not guarantee a title run, but it would make all the sense in the world even if it costs $30 million per for Aldridge and that center. Denver just is not that close. The players they have locked in have clear limitations. McGee defines inconsistent. Faried is limited offensively and undersized as a defender.  Gallinari is not best utilized defending the tough scoring wings of the West, and now he does not have Iguodala to take the most challenging assignment.

It is easy to like Faried. He is a worker bee, but they are paying him for more than what he gives. Energy is good, but it should be cheap. He is getting close to twice what Taj Gibson received in only one more year (5-$60 million as opposed to 4-$33 million). Gibson is also a significantly better defender, and while neither is highly skilled Gibson is more developed on that end too. Mike Scott and Trevor Booker will run through a wall for you and they are more developed offensive players, but they got 3-$10 million amd 2-$10 million. I don’t even want to think about comparing what he received to what Atlanta signed Paul Millsap for one year ago, 2-$19 million. Make no mistake, there is a vast chasm that separates those two. If he became a restricted free agent next summer, and Denver matched someone’s 5-year $60 million deal, it would be different, but they are proactively overpaying him. 

 Derrick Favours got $48 million over 4 years last season when he wasn’t a regular starter, Gortat got $60 million over 5 years this summer, Parsons and Hayward got over $60 million over 4 years this summer too.

So I would say that Faried’s deal is good value especially as he only played 27mpg last season to achieve 13.7ppg and 8.6rpg. Taj Gibson was a back up big when he got his extension so was not paid starter money.

Paul Millsap’s contract last summer was a little strange as he only took/was offered a 2 year deal and I agree he market value was $11 to $12 million a year.

 Derrick Favours got $48 million over 4 years last season when he wasn’t a regular starter, Gortat got $60 million over 5 years this summer, Parsons and Hayward got over $60 million over 4 years this summer too.

So I would say that Faried’s deal is good value especially as he only played 27mpg last season to achieve 13.7ppg and 8.6rpg. Taj Gibson was a back up big when he got his extension so was not paid starter money.

Paul Millsap’s contract last summer was a little strange as he only took/was offered a 2 year deal and I agree he market value was $11 to $12 million a year.

 the Morris twins. They make just over 12 million a year for the same term and I didn’t think that was a horrible deal. 

12 million is what a average startr should make in a salary cap year of about 72 million. 12 for each starter which equals 60 million and a 12 million dollar bench. He is a starter and it sounds like a lot but seems to me fair. 

Does the mid level rise also? 5 million always seemed low to me because that would technically be the pay of 1/12th the 60 million dollar old soft cap. I think a lot of vets get robbed here. I know I’m not the majority but I think salaries "should" rise even higher. Think about the production even a guy like Evan Turner will bring to Boston and for it he will recieve 1/20th the salaries they dole out. Shawn Marion would get like 1/60th the salary the Cavs give out this year. 

 the Morris twins. They make just over 12 million a year for the same term and I didn’t think that was a horrible deal. 

12 million is what a average startr should make in a salary cap year of about 72 million. 12 for each starter which equals 60 million and a 12 million dollar bench. He is a starter and it sounds like a lot but seems to me fair. 

Does the mid level rise also? 5 million always seemed low to me because that would technically be the pay of 1/12th the 60 million dollar old soft cap. I think a lot of vets get robbed here. I know I’m not the majority but I think salaries "should" rise even higher. Think about the production even a guy like Evan Turner will bring to Boston and for it he will recieve 1/20th the salaries they dole out. Shawn Marion would get like 1/60th the salary the Cavs give out this year. 

 There is a difference what teams can pay for mid level exceptions depending if they are over or under cap. I’d assume that mid level and veteran’s minimum will rise if the cap level rises in due course. Shawn Marion to be fair is playing for veteran’s minimum to try and get a 2nd title, he wants to win and probably got better offers elsewhere. Plus he has had his big contracts so doesn’t need to chase money.

I haven’t seen what Evan Turner will get this coming season but going on The Artist’s percentages above then Boston might have got a very good bargain. Again Boston has so many players I’m not sure what actual cap space they had.

 There is a difference what teams can pay for mid level exceptions depending if they are over or under cap. I’d assume that mid level and veteran’s minimum will rise if the cap level rises in due course. Shawn Marion to be fair is playing for veteran’s minimum to try and get a 2nd title, he wants to win and probably got better offers elsewhere. Plus he has had his big contracts so doesn’t need to chase money.

I haven’t seen what Evan Turner will get this coming season but going on The Artist’s percentages above then Boston might have got a very good bargain. Again Boston has so many players I’m not sure what actual cap space they had.

I think he was going to get that deal even before the fiba games. He didn’t show anything different in those games that he didn’t already do for the nuggets last year, hyper, high motor work hard. Those things are apple field in the fiba games due to all the surrounding talent and no other bigs are as athletic 

I think he was going to get that deal even before the fiba games. He didn’t show anything different in those games that he didn’t already do for the nuggets last year, hyper, high motor work hard. Those things are apple field in the fiba games due to all the surrounding talent and no other bigs are as athletic