VOTE – Small Forwards (& SG Results)

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 5:38pm #57871

BasterdInABasket
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Vote for any player as much as you want but no ties..
1. Best Current SF?
2. Best in 5 years?
3. Most Underrated?
4. Overrated?
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?
6. Best Rookie?
7. Most Athletic?
8. Most Skilled?
9. Best Leader?
10. Best All-Time?
11. Favorite Current SF?
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SG RESULTS FROM YESTERDAY:
1. BEST…………HARDEN 16, Stephenson 4, Wade 3, Thompson 1
2. BEST in 5…..BEAL 8, Thompson 5, Oladipo-Harden 3, Lance 2, 3 w/ 1
3. UNDER………DEROZAN 5, Waiters-Matthews-Afflalo 3, 9 w/ 1
4. OVER………..HARDEN 12, Waiters-Kobe 3, Wade-Manu 2, Thompson 1
5. YOUNG……..BEAL 18, Oladipo 4, KCP 1
6. ROOKIE…….HARRIS 8, Stauskas 7, Lavine 4, Wiggins 2, 3 w/ 1
7. ATHLETIC….GREEN 14, Lavine 4, Derozan-Wiggins 2, Ellis 1
8. SKILLED…….KOBE 20, Wade-Stephenson-Oladipo-Thompson 1
9. LEADER…….KOBE 12, Wade 6, Manu-TAllen 2, JJohnson 1
10.TOP 3 ALL…MJ 23(u), KOBE 22, WADE 12, Clyde 4, AI-West 3, 2 w/ 1
11.FAV SG…….LANCE-KOBE 4, Manu-Derozan 3, 8 w/ 1
12.FAV PG…….ROSE 4, Westbrook 3, Paul-Lillard-Wall-Curry 2, 4 w/ 1
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SG Results from 2013:
1. Best………..KOBE 18, Harden 17, Wade 2
2. Best in 5…..HARDEN 32, Oladipo-George 2, Waiters 1
3. Underrated.DEROZAN 5, Gordon 4, Butler-Lance 3, Hendrsn-Matthews-Thmpson 2, 11 w/ 1
4. Overrated…GORDON-ELLIS 7, JRSmith-Mayo 4, JJohnson-Manu 3, Green-Wade 2, 2 w/ 1
5. Young………BEAL 19, Thompson 14, Waiters 3
6. Rookie……..OLADIPO 28, McLemore 7, Datome-Muhammad 1
7. Athletic…….DEROZAN 9, GGreen 8 Iguodala 5, Ross 3, Shumpert 2, Seven w/ 1
8. Skilled……..KOBE 28, Harden 6, Ginobili-Crawford 1
9. Leader……..KOBE 24, Wade 7, TAllen 2, Harden-Billiups-RAllen 1
10. AllTime…..MJ 35 Unanimous, KOBE 34, WEST 13, Wade 11, Drexler 5, Tmac-AI 2, Baylor 1
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SG Results from 2012:
1. Best…………Bryant 27, Wade 8
2. Best in 5……Harden 13, Gordon 7, Muhammad 5, KThompson-Mayo 2, Six Players 1
3. Underrated.. Ginobili 13, Martin 3 Ellis-Afflalo-Evans-Matthews 2, Eleven Players 1
4. Overrated…. JJohnson 10, Ellis 5, Gordon-Mayo 3, Wade-Martin 2, Ten Players 1
5. Best Young..Thompson 19, George 8, Hayward-Turner 2, Jimmer-Shumpert-Brooks 1
6. Rookie………Beal 17, Lamb 13, Ross-Rivers 2, Waiters 1
7. Athletic……. Derozan 13, Wade 9, JRSmith 4, George-GGreen 3, Iguodala 1
8. Skilled………Bryant 28, Ginobili 3, Wade 2, Harden-Turner 1
9. Leader………Bryant 14, Terry-Wade, Ginobili 4, Roy 2, Iguodala-TAllen 1
10.AllTime……..MJ 32, Bryant 32, West 15, Wade 9, Drexler 5, Miller-AI-Pistol 1
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2011 SG Results:
1. Best SG right now……….. Wade 25, Kobe 9
2. Most Underrated…………. E Gordon 12, K Martin 4, Ellis-Terry 3
3. Overrated………………….. J Johnson 17, Ellis 9, Manu 3, Carter-Mayo 2
4. Best SG in 5 years……… Wade 10, Shabazz-Gordon 8, Harden 4
5. Best Young SG………….. Harden 15, Evans 13, Derozan 4
6. Best Rookie SG………….. Burks 17, Brooks 11, K Thompson 5
7. Most Athletic……………….Wade 15, Derozan 14, JR Smith 2
8. Best Leader………………..Kobe 22, Roy 4, R Allen 3, Manu-Wade 2
9. Top 2 All Time……………. MJ unanimous, Kobe 32, West 3, Drexler 1
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 5:53pm #946975

BasterdInABasket
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1. Best Current SF? LEBRON
2. Best in 5 years? LEBRON- 34/35 years old, can’t see age or injuries affecting him much
3. Most Underrated? IGGY- A lot of guys, Batum, Deng
4. Overrated? PARSONS- That’s A LOT of cash he got
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? WIGGINS- Barnes next
6. Best Rookie? WIGGINS- Parker I got as a PF
7. Most Athletic? LEBRON
8. Most Skilled? LEBRON
9. Best Leader? LEBRON
10. Best All-Time? LEBRON
11. Favorite Current SF? LEBRON
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 12:09pm #947249
  
  Big_C_KU
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  1. Best Curent- LeBron James….
  2. Best in 5 years- Kevin Durant….LeBron will be starting to slow down and Durant should be in the middle of his prime
  3. Most Underrated- DeMar Derozan….He’s a SF to me.
  4. Most Overrated- Kawhi Leonard….Had an awesome Finals but want to see him do a lot more than what he has during the season.
  5. Best young SF- Andrew Wiggins….Going to be a stud.
  6. Best rookie- Andrew Wiggins….I too have Parker as a PF this year.
  7. Most Athletic- LeBron….
  8. Most Skilled- LeBron….
  9. Best Leader- LeBron….
  10. All-Time- LeBron….
  11. Favorite current SF- Durant…
  
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 12:09pm #947110
  
  Big_C_KU
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  1. Best Curent- LeBron James….
  2. Best in 5 years- Kevin Durant….LeBron will be starting to slow down and Durant should be in the middle of his prime
  3. Most Underrated- DeMar Derozan….He’s a SF to me.
  4. Most Overrated- Kawhi Leonard….Had an awesome Finals but want to see him do a lot more than what he has during the season.
  5. Best young SF- Andrew Wiggins….Going to be a stud.
  6. Best rookie- Andrew Wiggins….I too have Parker as a PF this year.
  7. Most Athletic- LeBron….
  8. Most Skilled- LeBron….
  9. Best Leader- LeBron….
  10. All-Time- LeBron….
  11. Favorite current SF- Durant…
  
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 5:53pm #947113

BasterdInABasket
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1. Best Current SF? LEBRON
2. Best in 5 years? LEBRON- 34/35 years old, can’t see age or injuries affecting him much
3. Most Underrated? IGGY- A lot of guys, Batum, Deng
4. Overrated? PARSONS- That’s A LOT of cash he got
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? WIGGINS- Barnes next
6. Best Rookie? WIGGINS- Parker I got as a PF
7. Most Athletic? LEBRON
8. Most Skilled? LEBRON
9. Best Leader? LEBRON
10. Best All-Time? LEBRON
11. Favorite Current SF? LEBRON
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:00pm #946977

Lotto Stud
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1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Giannis Antetokunmpo
3. Most Underrated? Luol Deng
4. Overrated? Carmelo Anthony
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? Andre Iguodala
8. Most Skilled? Tyreke Evans (Actually plays 1-3)
9. Best Leader? Kevin Durant
10. Best All-Time? LeBron James
11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:59pm #947007
  
  frogman
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  I know these are your opinions but really?
  Antetokunmpo better than Lebron and Durant in 5 years?
  Iguodala more athletic than Lebron?
  Tyreke more skilled than Lebron?
  Durant the best leader when he can’t even convince Westbrook to give him the ball?
  Let’s just say I disagree
  
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 10:17pm #947011
    
    Lotto Stud
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    …Says the man who posts no list, but speaks on everyone else’s.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 10:17pm #947149
    
    Lotto Stud
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    …Says the man who posts no list, but speaks on everyone else’s.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:59pm #947145
  
  frogman
  Participant
  I know these are your opinions but really?
  Antetokunmpo better than Lebron and Durant in 5 years?
  Iguodala more athletic than Lebron?
  Tyreke more skilled than Lebron?
  Durant the best leader when he can’t even convince Westbrook to give him the ball?
  Let’s just say I disagree
  
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:00pm #947115

Lotto Stud
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1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Giannis Antetokunmpo
3. Most Underrated? Luol Deng
4. Overrated? Carmelo Anthony
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? Andre Iguodala
8. Most Skilled? Tyreke Evans (Actually plays 1-3)
9. Best Leader? Kevin Durant
10. Best All-Time? LeBron James
11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:25pm #946979

theprophet
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current – kevin durant
5 years – kevin durant
underrated – kevin durant
overrated – lebron james
best young – jabari parker (he’ll play pf a lot to but better at sf)
best rookie – jabari parker
most athletic – lebron james
most skilled – kevin durant
best leader – lebron james
best all time – larry bird
favorite current – nicolas batum

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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:35pm #946981
  
  LA12
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  How can you call James the most overrated and Durant the most underrated? James just might become the greatest SF of all time, if he isn’t already. And Durant’s considered the second best player in the world. How can the concensus choice for second best player in the world be underrated?
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:35pm #947119
  
  LA12
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  How can you call James the most overrated and Durant the most underrated? James just might become the greatest SF of all time, if he isn’t already. And Durant’s considered the second best player in the world. How can the concensus choice for second best player in the world be underrated?
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:15pm #946987
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  The Prophet – I really like your list… although batum might be the most skilled (as he averages more steals, blocks, and assists). How is lebron a leader? A good leader is someone generally all his teammates love… I don’t know of that’s true for lebronbron is constantly apologizing to people.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:41pm #947005
    
    theprophet
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    you make a great point, but i can’t help but notice that lebron’s a coach on the floor. durant has just developed that in his dna along with the defense and handles at the rock.
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  - Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:41pm #947143
    
    theprophet
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    you make a great point, but i can’t help but notice that lebron’s a coach on the floor. durant has just developed that in his dna along with the defense and handles at the rock.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:15pm #947125
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  The Prophet – I really like your list… although batum might be the most skilled (as he averages more steals, blocks, and assists). How is lebron a leader? A good leader is someone generally all his teammates love… I don’t know of that’s true for lebronbron is constantly apologizing to people.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 6:25pm #947117

theprophet
Participant
current – kevin durant
5 years – kevin durant
underrated – kevin durant
overrated – lebron james
best young – jabari parker (he’ll play pf a lot to but better at sf)
best rookie – jabari parker
most athletic – lebron james
most skilled – kevin durant
best leader – lebron james
best all time – larry bird
favorite current – nicolas batum

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:03pm #946983

theprophet
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thank you for asking, i’m going by my opinion on how i rank them going into next year. i say that both durant and lebron were not quite san antonio last year. durant is younger and improving at a higher rate. lebron’s peak imo was season before last. durant was the best player in the league last year. i believe that okc will win it this year. i say lebron is overrated in the sense that so many people say he’s the best player in the world and durant is underrated because so many people say durant is second simply putting lebron their when i don’t agree. it’s just my opinion though. as far as lebron being the best sf of all time, i say he is very close right behind larry bird if you want to count the career. i respect the lebron on top opinions though. hope that clears it up a bit, and i don’t expect you to agree. overrated/underrated in the consensus stand point, but not necessarily over all rankings.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:03pm #947121

theprophet
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thank you for asking, i’m going by my opinion on how i rank them going into next year. i say that both durant and lebron were not quite san antonio last year. durant is younger and improving at a higher rate. lebron’s peak imo was season before last. durant was the best player in the league last year. i believe that okc will win it this year. i say lebron is overrated in the sense that so many people say he’s the best player in the world and durant is underrated because so many people say durant is second simply putting lebron their when i don’t agree. it’s just my opinion though. as far as lebron being the best sf of all time, i say he is very close right behind larry bird if you want to count the career. i respect the lebron on top opinions though. hope that clears it up a bit, and i don’t expect you to agree. overrated/underrated in the consensus stand point, but not necessarily over all rankings.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:08pm #946985

BenchWarmer
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1. Best Current SF? LeBron James, 48.8 percent on spot up threes last year. He is something else man.. Feeling you we might be watching the best player to ever touch a ball.
2. Best in 5 years? Ben Simmons (going bold)
3. Most Underrated? Luol Deng, dude does everything well and doesn’t complain. Love him
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay (raps fan)
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Wiggins
6. Best Rookie? Wiggins is fired up
7. Most Athletic? Lebron lost a bit of weight.
8. Most Skilled? Lebron. Highest percentage in the paint and second from spot up 3s. Handles like a guard and best passer in the league.
9. Best Leader? Lebron James. Coordinates defenses
10. Best All-Time? LeBron James
11. Favorite Current SF? Gerald Wallace (favorite alltime player)
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 3:13am #947035
  
  IndianaBasketball
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  LeBron James is an improved three-point shooter and he did shoot 48.8% on catch and shoot three-pointers, but he only attempted less than two per game… He attempted about two three-pointers off of the dribble and only shot 30.8%.
  I think most of his improvement as a shooter has come in the mid-range, where he’s pretty much a 39% shooter overall with a good enough sample size of shots. 39% isn’t great, but it’s probably above league average.
  He’s a respectable shooter, but is still streaky in my opinion. Majority of his damage is still in the paint, where he’s the best in the league.
  
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 8:44am #947207
    
    BenchWarmer
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    Of the 166 players that took more than 100 spot up threes lebron was second behind Kyle Korver.. That not respectable that’s elite, your first paragraph is inane.
    But I totally agree with the midrange! he’s been very up and down. Year to year he’s been up and down going from average to really good, (few years ago he was statistically one of the best) he he’s got the inside and outside down, but his midrange is a little shaky but hell nobody’s perfect. Hopefully him and the rest of the league stop with this flopping garbage.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 8:44am #947069
    
    BenchWarmer
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    Of the 166 players that took more than 100 spot up threes lebron was second behind Kyle Korver.. That not respectable that’s elite, your first paragraph is inane.
    But I totally agree with the midrange! he’s been very up and down. Year to year he’s been up and down going from average to really good, (few years ago he was statistically one of the best) he he’s got the inside and outside down, but his midrange is a little shaky but hell nobody’s perfect. Hopefully him and the rest of the league stop with this flopping garbage.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 9:23pm #947293
      
      IndianaBasketball
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      LeBron averaged 0.8/1.6 on catch and shoot three-pointers per game. I mean, give him credit for making 48.8% of those shots he took, but that’s such a small sample size compared to the best catch and shoot players in the league.
      For example… Players like Klay Thompson shot 43.6% on 5.5 attempts.. . Wesley Matthews 41.9% on 5.1 attempts. Kyle Korver 49.9% on 4.8 attempts… Trevor Ariza 43.5% on 4.9 attempts… Paul George 43.8% on 4.1 attempts… JR Smith 46.2% on 4.7 attempts. I mean, you can just go down the list of players who are better… Carmelo Anthony, Aaron Afflalo, Marco Belinelli, Mike Miller, Damian Lillard… I mean, these guys doubled/tripled LeBron’s attempts and shot over 40%.
      I mean, LeBron averaged less than one catch and shoot three-pointer made per game lol. That’s all I was saying. Yea, he made a high percentage, but that’s extremely misleading. He’s not on the same level as the best catch and shoot players in the league. Not even close actually.
      
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 9:23pm #947154
      
      IndianaBasketball
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      LeBron averaged 0.8/1.6 on catch and shoot three-pointers per game. I mean, give him credit for making 48.8% of those shots he took, but that’s such a small sample size compared to the best catch and shoot players in the league.
      For example… Players like Klay Thompson shot 43.6% on 5.5 attempts.. . Wesley Matthews 41.9% on 5.1 attempts. Kyle Korver 49.9% on 4.8 attempts… Trevor Ariza 43.5% on 4.9 attempts… Paul George 43.8% on 4.1 attempts… JR Smith 46.2% on 4.7 attempts. I mean, you can just go down the list of players who are better… Carmelo Anthony, Aaron Afflalo, Marco Belinelli, Mike Miller, Damian Lillard… I mean, these guys doubled/tripled LeBron’s attempts and shot over 40%.
      I mean, LeBron averaged less than one catch and shoot three-pointer made per game lol. That’s all I was saying. Yea, he made a high percentage, but that’s extremely misleading. He’s not on the same level as the best catch and shoot players in the league. Not even close actually.
      
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 3:13am #947173
  
  IndianaBasketball
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  LeBron James is an improved three-point shooter and he did shoot 48.8% on catch and shoot three-pointers, but he only attempted less than two per game… He attempted about two three-pointers off of the dribble and only shot 30.8%.
  I think most of his improvement as a shooter has come in the mid-range, where he’s pretty much a 39% shooter overall with a good enough sample size of shots. 39% isn’t great, but it’s probably above league average.
  He’s a respectable shooter, but is still streaky in my opinion. Majority of his damage is still in the paint, where he’s the best in the league.
  
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:08pm #947123

BenchWarmer
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James, 48.8 percent on spot up threes last year. He is something else man.. Feeling you we might be watching the best player to ever touch a ball.
2. Best in 5 years? Ben Simmons (going bold)
3. Most Underrated? Luol Deng, dude does everything well and doesn’t complain. Love him
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay (raps fan)
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Wiggins
6. Best Rookie? Wiggins is fired up
7. Most Athletic? Lebron lost a bit of weight.
8. Most Skilled? Lebron. Highest percentage in the paint and second from spot up 3s. Handles like a guard and best passer in the league.
9. Best Leader? Lebron James. Coordinates defenses
10. Best All-Time? LeBron James
11. Favorite Current SF? Gerald Wallace (favorite alltime player)
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:15pm #946989

Kinguy11
Participant
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Iggy
4. Lebron James
5. Jabari Parker
6. Jabari Parker
7. Lebron James
8. Kevin Durant
9. Lebron James
10. Larry Bird
11. Kevin Durant

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:15pm #947127

Kinguy11
Participant
1. Lebron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Iggy
4. Lebron James
5. Jabari Parker
6. Jabari Parker
7. Lebron James
8. Kevin Durant
9. Lebron James
10. Larry Bird
11. Kevin Durant

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:27pm #946991

MorseWill
Participant
1. Best Current SF? Lebron
2. Best in 5 years? KD
3. Most Underrated? Iguodala
4. Overrated? Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Parker
6. Best Rookie? Parker
7. Most Athletic? Paul George (healthy) has some nice 360 windmills, etc…
8. Most Skilled? Lebron
9. Best Leader?Lebron
10. Best All-Time? Lebron
Favorite SF? KD… UT fan, favorite player since
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:27pm #947129

MorseWill
Participant
1. Best Current SF? Lebron
2. Best in 5 years? KD
3. Most Underrated? Iguodala
4. Overrated? Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Parker
6. Best Rookie? Parker
7. Most Athletic? Paul George (healthy) has some nice 360 windmills, etc…
8. Most Skilled? Lebron
9. Best Leader?Lebron
10. Best All-Time? Lebron
Favorite SF? KD… UT fan, favorite player since
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:34pm #946993

Grandmama
Participant
1. Current – Lebron
2. 5 years – Durant
3. Underrated – Same answer from me last couple years, Batum
4. Overrated – Nick Young
5. Best young – Parker
6. Best rookie – Parker
7. Athletic – Wiggins
8. Skilled – Lebron
9. Leader – Kawhi….leads by example
10. All-time – Larry Legend
11. Favorite – Iguodala

I’m pissed b/c my SG post was triggering spam, couldn’t vote

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:34pm #947131

Grandmama
Participant
1. Current – Lebron
2. 5 years – Durant
3. Underrated – Same answer from me last couple years, Batum
4. Overrated – Nick Young
5. Best young – Parker
6. Best rookie – Parker
7. Athletic – Wiggins
8. Skilled – Lebron
9. Leader – Kawhi….leads by example
10. All-time – Larry Legend
11. Favorite – Iguodala

I’m pissed b/c my SG post was triggering spam, couldn’t vote

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:52pm #946995

rileymcshea3
Participant
1.Current-Lebron
2. 5 years-Durant
3.Underrated-Parsons
4.Overrated-Deng
5.Best Young-Jabari Parker
6.Best Rookie-Jabari Parker
7.Athletic-Wiggins
8.Skilled-Durant
9.Leader-LeBron
10Alltime-Lebron
11.Favorite-Durant
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 7:52pm #947133

rileymcshea3
Participant
1.Current-Lebron
2. 5 years-Durant
3.Underrated-Parsons
4.Overrated-Deng
5.Best Young-Jabari Parker
6.Best Rookie-Jabari Parker
7.Athletic-Wiggins
8.Skilled-Durant
9.Leader-LeBron
10Alltime-Lebron
11.Favorite-Durant
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 8:26pm #946999

Zouldiers
Participant
1.LeBron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Nicolas Batum
4.Carmelo Anthony
5.Giannis Antetokounmpo
6.Jabari Parker
7.LeBron James
8.Lebron James
9.Lebron James
10.Larry Bird
11.Harrison Barnes(same birthday as me)

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 8:26pm #947137

Zouldiers
Participant
1.LeBron James
2.Kevin Durant
3.Nicolas Batum
4.Carmelo Anthony
5.Giannis Antetokounmpo
6.Jabari Parker
7.LeBron James
8.Lebron James
9.Lebron James
10.Larry Bird
11.Harrison Barnes(same birthday as me)

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 8:55pm #947001

omphalos
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Yeah not sure how anyone is picking someone other than Durant as the best in 5 years.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 10:04pm #947009
  
  frogman
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  Lebron in one of the greatest players ever. Not hard to imagine he could be the best at his position in 5 years at 34.
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 10:04pm #947147
  
  frogman
  Participant
  Lebron in one of the greatest players ever. Not hard to imagine he could be the best at his position in 5 years at 34.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 8:55pm #947139

omphalos
Participant
Yeah not sure how anyone is picking someone other than Durant as the best in 5 years.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:22pm #947003

Scrooge McDuck
Participant
1. Best SF now? Durant
2. In 5 years? Paul George
3. Most underrated? P.j. Tucker
4. Most overrated? Lebron James
5. Best young sf?
6. Bedt rookie sf? Jabari Parker
7. Most athletic? Lebr
8. Most skilled? Batum
9. Bedt leader? 10. Best all time? 11. Favorite?

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 9:22pm #947141

Scrooge McDuck
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1. Best SF now? Durant
2. In 5 years? Paul George
3. Most underrated? P.j. Tucker
4. Most overrated? Lebron James
5. Best young sf?
6. Bedt rookie sf? Jabari Parker
7. Most athletic? Lebr
8. Most skilled? Batum
9. Bedt leader? 10. Best all time? 11. Favorite?

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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:07pm #947013

festar35
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James – The things this guy does is on another level. From FG% to his assist and rebounds number
2. Best in 5 years? Paul George – Yes you may say this is bias and it will only be if he comes back healthy from this injury. Thing is he has been to the ECF twice as the “leader” of the Pacers at age 22 & 23. He puts up 20+ a night whilst locking into the best scorer on the other team more often than not. He will be 29 and will be at the apex of still being athletic with having an even greater understanding of the game. If the injiry plagues him I would go with Durant.
3. Most Underrated? Gordon Hayward – He struggled being the number 1 option, but in fairness didnt have a lot of help. He is more athletic than people give him credit for, can score and facilitate and is an above average defender.
4. Overrated? Kawhi Leonard – The kid is good, but until we see him in a situation consistently where he is the guy in SA I just can’t call him great. Time will tell, but people are amping up a bit much.
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? The Greek Freak – Looks amazing on court and loaded with potential, he and Wiggins will be fun to watch grow.
6. Best Rookie? Andrew Wiggins – Love what Minny has going, also I believe Parker will be playimg PF for the Bucks.
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James – Still a freak athlete, will be interesting to see what this lighter version can do.
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James – No explanation needed
9. Best Leader? LeBron James – There aren’t a lot of great leaders at SF position, but LeBron has influence so he is hard deny. Look for George to grow in this role.
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird and LeBron James I cant decide.
11. Favorite Current SF? Paul George
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:07pm #947151

festar35
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James – The things this guy does is on another level. From FG% to his assist and rebounds number
2. Best in 5 years? Paul George – Yes you may say this is bias and it will only be if he comes back healthy from this injury. Thing is he has been to the ECF twice as the “leader” of the Pacers at age 22 & 23. He puts up 20+ a night whilst locking into the best scorer on the other team more often than not. He will be 29 and will be at the apex of still being athletic with having an even greater understanding of the game. If the injiry plagues him I would go with Durant.
3. Most Underrated? Gordon Hayward – He struggled being the number 1 option, but in fairness didnt have a lot of help. He is more athletic than people give him credit for, can score and facilitate and is an above average defender.
4. Overrated? Kawhi Leonard – The kid is good, but until we see him in a situation consistently where he is the guy in SA I just can’t call him great. Time will tell, but people are amping up a bit much.
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? The Greek Freak – Looks amazing on court and loaded with potential, he and Wiggins will be fun to watch grow.
6. Best Rookie? Andrew Wiggins – Love what Minny has going, also I believe Parker will be playimg PF for the Bucks.
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James – Still a freak athlete, will be interesting to see what this lighter version can do.
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James – No explanation needed
9. Best Leader? LeBron James – There aren’t a lot of great leaders at SF position, but LeBron has influence so he is hard deny. Look for George to grow in this role.
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird and LeBron James I cant decide.
11. Favorite Current SF? Paul George
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:07pm #947015

Wavy Bagels
Participant
1. Best Current SF? Lebron
2. Best in 5 years? Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nic Batum
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Harrison Barnes
6. Best Rookie? TJ Warren
7. Most Athletic? Lebron
8. Most Skilled? Lebron
9. Best Leader? Lebron
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird, but Lebron’s getting there
11. Favorite Current SF? Kawhi Leonard
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:19pm #947019
  
  Wavy Bagels
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  Best Rookie: Jabari
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- Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:19pm #947157
  
  Wavy Bagels
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  Best Rookie: Jabari
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:07pm #947153

Wavy Bagels
Participant
1. Best Current SF? Lebron
2. Best in 5 years? Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nic Batum
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Harrison Barnes
6. Best Rookie? TJ Warren
7. Most Athletic? Lebron
8. Most Skilled? Lebron
9. Best Leader? Lebron
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird, but Lebron’s getting there
11. Favorite Current SF? Kawhi Leonard
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:10pm #947017

Wavy Bagels
Participant
It baffles me that some of you guys are picking Jabari and Wiggins at the best young SF category and they have yet to play a single game yet.
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Posted on: Wed, 08/27/2014 - 11:10pm #947155

Wavy Bagels
Participant
It baffles me that some of you guys are picking Jabari and Wiggins at the best young SF category and they have yet to play a single game yet.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:29am #947025

joecheck88
Participant
1) Lebron
2) Durant
3) Jeff Taylor(when healthy)
4) Kawhi Leonard(great year but that has catapulted him to a level in many minds beyond what he is right now)
5) Andrew Wiggins(nope he hasn’t played but I’ve never left the bandwagon and not going to here)
6) Andrew Wiggins
7) Lebron(others close but don’t have the strength to go with it)
8) Kevin Durant(just looks a bit smoother but it’s a toss up between he and LBJ)
9) Lebron
10) Lebron(think only argument is rings)
11) Durant
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:29am #947163

joecheck88
Participant
1) Lebron
2) Durant
3) Jeff Taylor(when healthy)
4) Kawhi Leonard(great year but that has catapulted him to a level in many minds beyond what he is right now)
5) Andrew Wiggins(nope he hasn’t played but I’ve never left the bandwagon and not going to here)
6) Andrew Wiggins
7) Lebron(others close but don’t have the strength to go with it)
8) Kevin Durant(just looks a bit smoother but it’s a toss up between he and LBJ)
9) Lebron
10) Lebron(think only argument is rings)
11) Durant
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:33am #947027

TP4ever
Participant
1. Best Current SF: Kevin Durant
2. Best in 5 years : Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated : Batum
4. Overrated : Melo
5. Best Young SF : Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
6. Best Rookie : Wiggins
7. Most Athletic : LBJ
8. Most Skilled : Kevin Durant
9. Best Leader : LBJ
10. Best All-Time : Bird/LBJ/Pippen
11. Favorite Current SF : Batum
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:33am #947165

TP4ever
Participant
1. Best Current SF: Kevin Durant
2. Best in 5 years : Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated : Batum
4. Overrated : Melo
5. Best Young SF : Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
6. Best Rookie : Wiggins
7. Most Athletic : LBJ
8. Most Skilled : Kevin Durant
9. Best Leader : LBJ
10. Best All-Time : Bird/LBJ/Pippen
11. Favorite Current SF : Batum
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:55am #947031

mvolker7
Participant
1. Best Current SF- James
2.Best in 5 years- Durant
3. Most Underrated- BAtum
4. Overrated- Parsons
5. Best Young SF- Leonard
6. Best Rookie- Wiggins
7. Most Athletic- Lebron
8. Most Skilled- Lebron
9.Best Leader- Pierce
10.Best All time- James, Bird, Dr J
11. Lebron

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 1:55am #947169

mvolker7
Participant
1. Best Current SF- James
2.Best in 5 years- Durant
3. Most Underrated- BAtum
4. Overrated- Parsons
5. Best Young SF- Leonard
6. Best Rookie- Wiggins
7. Most Athletic- Lebron
8. Most Skilled- Lebron
9.Best Leader- Pierce
10.Best All time- James, Bird, Dr J
11. Lebron

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 4:49am #947043

IndianaBasketball
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nicolas Batum
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Harrison Barnes
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird
11. Favorite Current SF? Paul George
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 4:49am #947181

IndianaBasketball
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nicolas Batum
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Harrison Barnes
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird
11. Favorite Current SF? Paul George
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 4:57am #947045

Tedy Bukasa
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron
2. Best in 5 years? Durant
3. Most Underrated? Gordon Hayward
4. Overrated? Jabari Parker
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Best Rookie? Wiggins
7. Most Athletic? Wiggins
8. Most Skilled? LeBron
9. Best Leader? LeBron
10. Best All-Time? LeBron
11. Favourite Current SF? LeBron

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 4:57am #947183

Tedy Bukasa
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron
2. Best in 5 years? Durant
3. Most Underrated? Gordon Hayward
4. Overrated? Jabari Parker
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis Antetokounmpo
6. Best Rookie? Wiggins
7. Most Athletic? Wiggins
8. Most Skilled? LeBron
9. Best Leader? LeBron
10. Best All-Time? LeBron
11. Favourite Current SF? LeBron

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 6:28am #947057

Memphis Madness
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? heck. Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Kawhi Leonard/Rudy Gay
4. Overrated? Kawhi Leonard/Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Andrew Wiggins
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? Andrew Wiggins
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James. Umm, he leads the entire LEAGUE.
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird. Still has one more ring than LeBron. If you consider Bird, LeBron, and Elgin Baylor as "power forwards in power forwards bodies" then I will go with Dr. J. — the original athletic small forward out of central casting.
11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay

Kawhi Leonard is underrated if you look at last year’s regular season stats for a guy who didn’t make the all star team. Kawhi is OVERRATED if you are calling him the next Scottie Pippen after his virtuoso Finals appearance. Even though, Kawhi had a PRIME Pippenesque run of games. The length is there, the D is there, the nasty dunks are there, HUGE HANDS, rebounds, with a BETTER outside shooting touch. Although Kawhi doesn’t have Pip’s playmaking skills. But, Kawhi is the same age/stage of his career as Scottie was at Central Arkansas or as a rookie. So, we will see what happens.
Rudy Gay is OVERRATED if you are comparing him to LeBron/Durant or maybe even Carmelo. He is UNDERRATED if you think pre-injury Paul George was underrated.
Ok, LeBron has "probably" passed Larry Bird, but at this stage of the game it’s all about RINGS. Ok, Dr. J also has three titles if you include his two ABA rings.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:35pm #947283
  
  tblazer_NZ
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  Kawhi Leonard and Rudy Gay both over and underrated?
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:35pm #947144
  
  tblazer_NZ
  Participant
  Kawhi Leonard and Rudy Gay both over and underrated?
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 6:28am #947195

Memphis Madness
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? heck. Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Kawhi Leonard/Rudy Gay
4. Overrated? Kawhi Leonard/Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Andrew Wiggins
6. Best Rookie? Jabari Parker
7. Most Athletic? Andrew Wiggins
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James. Umm, he leads the entire LEAGUE.
10. Best All-Time? Larry Bird. Still has one more ring than LeBron. If you consider Bird, LeBron, and Elgin Baylor as "power forwards in power forwards bodies" then I will go with Dr. J. — the original athletic small forward out of central casting.
11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay

Kawhi Leonard is underrated if you look at last year’s regular season stats for a guy who didn’t make the all star team. Kawhi is OVERRATED if you are calling him the next Scottie Pippen after his virtuoso Finals appearance. Even though, Kawhi had a PRIME Pippenesque run of games. The length is there, the D is there, the nasty dunks are there, HUGE HANDS, rebounds, with a BETTER outside shooting touch. Although Kawhi doesn’t have Pip’s playmaking skills. But, Kawhi is the same age/stage of his career as Scottie was at Central Arkansas or as a rookie. So, we will see what happens.
Rudy Gay is OVERRATED if you are comparing him to LeBron/Durant or maybe even Carmelo. He is UNDERRATED if you think pre-injury Paul George was underrated.
Ok, LeBron has "probably" passed Larry Bird, but at this stage of the game it’s all about RINGS. Ok, Dr. J also has three titles if you include his two ABA rings.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 12:16pm #947251

Huesy7
Participant
1. Best curent- LBJ
2. Best in 5 years- KD
3. Most underrated- Iggy
4. Most overrated- Melo
5. Best young- Wiggins
6. Best rookie- Wiggins
7. Most athletic- LBJ
8. Most skilled- KD
9. Best leader- LBJ
10. All-time- LBJ
11. Favourite- Iggy

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 12:16pm #947112

Huesy7
Participant
1. Best curent- LBJ
2. Best in 5 years- KD
3. Most underrated- Iggy
4. Most overrated- Melo
5. Best young- Wiggins
6. Best rookie- Wiggins
7. Most athletic- LBJ
8. Most skilled- KD
9. Best leader- LBJ
10. All-time- LBJ
11. Favourite- Iggy

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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 5:32pm #947277

iguapops420
Participant
Current- lbj
5 years- durant
underrated- kawhi (finals MVP yet not even top 5by espn rank)
overrated- parsons/hayward (dudes are making ELITE cash)
young- giannis
rookie- wiggins
athletic-lbj
skilled- pierce
leader- pierce
top 3 all time– bird/lbj/pippen
favorite-iggy
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 5:32pm #947138

iguapops420
Participant
Current- lbj
5 years- durant
underrated- kawhi (finals MVP yet not even top 5by espn rank)
overrated- parsons/hayward (dudes are making ELITE cash)
young- giannis
rookie- wiggins
athletic-lbj
skilled- pierce
leader- pierce
top 3 all time– bird/lbj/pippen
favorite-iggy
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:34pm #947281

tblazer_NZ
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nicolas Batum (slightly bias)
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis
6. Best Rookie? Andrew Wiggins
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James
10. Best All-Time????? I’m not old enough to judge.
11. Favorite Current SF? Kawhi Leonard
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Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:34pm #947142

tblazer_NZ
Participant
1. Best Current SF? LeBron James
2. Best in 5 years? Kevin Durant
3. Most Underrated? Nicolas Batum (slightly bias)
4. Overrated? Rudy Gay
5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)? Giannis
6. Best Rookie? Andrew Wiggins
7. Most Athletic? LeBron James
8. Most Skilled? LeBron James
9. Best Leader? LeBron James
10. Best All-Time????? I’m not old enough to judge.
11. Favorite Current SF? Kawhi Leonard
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:47pm #947285
  
  bobforte
  Participant
  1. best in nba? Lebron
  2. Best in 5 years? Durant
  3. Most Underrated? Hayward
  4. Overrated? Gay
  5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?
  6. Best Rookie? Wiggins
  7. Most Athletic? Lebron
  8. Most Skilled? Durant
  9. Best Leader? Lebron
  10. Best All-Time? so close i say Bird for another year
  11. favorite? Hayward
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/28/2014 - 7:47pm #947146
  
  bobforte
  Participant
  1. best in nba? Lebron
  2. Best in 5 years? Durant
  3. Most Underrated? Hayward
  4. Overrated? Gay
  5. Best Young SF (2 yrs or less exp. in league)?
  6. Best Rookie? Wiggins
  7. Most Athletic? Lebron
  8. Most Skilled? Durant
  9. Best Leader? Lebron
  10. Best All-Time? so close i say Bird for another year
  11. favorite? Hayward
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Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 5:46am #947323

BasketBalAllan
Participant
Why does everyone think Rudy Gay is overrated? I thought being overrated meant people valued you more than they should, whereas the only comments I ever hear about Rudy is how people think he is overpaid and washed up.
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Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 5:46am #947184

BasketBalAllan
Participant
Why does everyone think Rudy Gay is overrated? I thought being overrated meant people valued you more than they should, whereas the only comments I ever hear about Rudy is how people think he is overpaid and washed up.
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- Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:24am #947214
  
  Lotto Stud
  Participant
  SAY NO MORE!
  “11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay”
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- Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:24am #947353
  
  Lotto Stud
  Participant
  SAY NO MORE!
  “11. Favorite Current SF? Rudy Gay”
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Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:22am #947212

Lotto Stud
Participant
No PF list yet?
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Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 11:22am #947351

Lotto Stud
Participant
No PF list yet?
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Posted on: Fri, 08/29/2014 - 1:20pm #947226

BasterdInABasket
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