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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:18am #57693

Returnofthelemon
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At this point in his career, I can’t imagine him returning to the league. Right now it’s only an accusation though.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/08/07/greg-oden-arrested/13712409/

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:32am #943410

RUDEBOY_
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i dont think this means his career is done….with the ray rice domestic issues still in the news, it will hurt his image and some teams might not want the attention this might bring to the team….
i read in another article where he admitted to losing his temper and hitting her..they broke up about a month ago after dating for 2 yrs..the girl wasnt the one that reported the incident,it was her friend…

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:32am #943276

RUDEBOY_
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i dont think this means his career is done….with the ray rice domestic issues still in the news, it will hurt his image and some teams might not want the attention this might bring to the team….
i read in another article where he admitted to losing his temper and hitting her..they broke up about a month ago after dating for 2 yrs..the girl wasnt the one that reported the incident,it was her friend…

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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:55pm #943729
  
  ph90702
  Ray Rice has been to multiple Pro Bowls. He has a longer leash than Greg Oden. If he was a scrub, then the Ravens would have cut him. His talent forces the Ravens to keep him.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:55pm #943594
  
  ph90702
  Ray Rice has been to multiple Pro Bowls. He has a longer leash than Greg Oden. If he was a scrub, then the Ravens would have cut him. His talent forces the Ravens to keep him.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:35am #943416

Returnofthelemon
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I mean there is a chance to return, I just feel like this puts his reputation at an all time low.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 6:35am #943283

Returnofthelemon
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I mean there is a chance to return, I just feel like this puts his reputation at an all time low.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:54am #943452
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  Many people don’t know this. There is an article out there about it. Greg Oden was an alcoholic during his days as a trailblazer. I know portland isn’t the worst place to live. But maybe his failures on the court are due to deeper psychological issues.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:54am #943318
  
  Scrooge McDuck
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  Many people don’t know this. There is an article out there about it. Greg Oden was an alcoholic during his days as a trailblazer. I know portland isn’t the worst place to live. But maybe his failures on the court are due to deeper psychological issues.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:03am #943430

TarHeelRaven
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Guys, don’t lay hands on your woman please……Ray Rice’s actions were inexcusable, but with his talent and history of being a model citizen in the Baltimore community, the Ravens didn’t cut ties with him. He deserved a second chance. Oden did absolutely nothing on a team that was starved for size this year. I thought his career was over even before hearing about this. Teams don’t want a guy with no knees who beats on his girlfriend. Time to start planning your life away from basketball Mr. Oden

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:03am #943296

TarHeelRaven
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Guys, don’t lay hands on your woman please……Ray Rice’s actions were inexcusable, but with his talent and history of being a model citizen in the Baltimore community, the Ravens didn’t cut ties with him. He deserved a second chance. Oden did absolutely nothing on a team that was starved for size this year. I thought his career was over even before hearing about this. Teams don’t want a guy with no knees who beats on his girlfriend. Time to start planning your life away from basketball Mr. Oden

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 8:08am #943456

SeattleSuperChronics
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Equality is a joke. I’m not saying hitting a women is right but Jesus I’m sick of women acting like men and then crying about it when they are treated like one
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 8:08am #943322

SeattleSuperChronics
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Equality is a joke. I’m not saying hitting a women is right but Jesus I’m sick of women acting like men and then crying about it when they are treated like one
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 8:46am #943467
  
  Shaquille Oatmeal
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  Wow… I didn’t realize this site condoned misogyny like this until I saw that Stephen A. Smith thread a couple weeks ago. This only confirms it once again. Not only are people like this given a platform to voice their shameful positions, but they’re actually supported in doing so. Yes, let’s all "thumbs up" a comment that boils down to: Women only deserve to be treated like human beings if they’re willing to be punched by 7′ tall, 280lb men! Great job everyone.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 8:46am #943335
  
  Shaquille Oatmeal
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  Wow… I didn’t realize this site condoned misogyny like this until I saw that Stephen A. Smith thread a couple weeks ago. This only confirms it once again. Not only are people like this given a platform to voice their shameful positions, but they’re actually supported in doing so. Yes, let’s all "thumbs up" a comment that boils down to: Women only deserve to be treated like human beings if they’re willing to be punched by 7′ tall, 280lb men! Great job everyone.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:36am #943366
    
    butidonthavemoney
    Comments like the one you responded to shouldn’t be acceptable under any circumstances, but they’re common on sports forums. Really, they’re just the product of unintelligence and a culture that celebrates hyper-masculinity above all-else.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:00am #943374
      
      Scrooge McDuck
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      I think he was hitting on the issue by nature each person is different and the same–all at the same time. By law we are equal because everyone is a member of the human species. Each person is unique.
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:27am #943399
        
        SeattleSuperChronics
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        To insinuate that I am not intelligent is completely off base. All I am saying is women get away with murder compared to men. I have never hit a women but I have been in situations where women use societies norms to their advantages when arguing and it’s just flat wrong.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:36am #943401
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "I have been in situations where women use societies norms to their advantages when arguing and it’s just flat wrong."
        This is a problem with society, not women.
        Had you argued in your original post that there are double-standards against men in these kinds of situations, you would certainly have an argument — hell, I would have argeed with you. What you said was:
        "Equality is a joke"
        and
        "I’m sick of women acting like men and then crying about it when they are treated like one"
        I’m not going to explain to you why these statements are ignorant.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:22am #943446
        
        SeattleSuperChronics
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        And I suppose u believe Adam and Eve originate in Jackson county Missouri
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:22am #943579
        
        SeattleSuperChronics
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        And I suppose u believe Adam and Eve originate in Jackson county Missouri
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:36am #943534
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "I have been in situations where women use societies norms to their advantages when arguing and it’s just flat wrong."
        This is a problem with society, not women.
        Had you argued in your original post that there are double-standards against men in these kinds of situations, you would certainly have an argument — hell, I would have argeed with you. What you said was:
        "Equality is a joke"
        and
        "I’m sick of women acting like men and then crying about it when they are treated like one"
        I’m not going to explain to you why these statements are ignorant.
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:27am #943532
        
        SeattleSuperChronics
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        To insinuate that I am not intelligent is completely off base. All I am saying is women get away with murder compared to men. I have never hit a women but I have been in situations where women use societies norms to their advantages when arguing and it’s just flat wrong.
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:00am #943506
      
      Scrooge McDuck
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      I think he was hitting on the issue by nature each person is different and the same–all at the same time. By law we are equal because everyone is a member of the human species. Each person is unique.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:36am #943498
    
    butidonthavemoney
    Comments like the one you responded to shouldn’t be acceptable under any circumstances, but they’re common on sports forums. Really, they’re just the product of unintelligence and a culture that celebrates hyper-masculinity above all-else.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:14am #943469

Ihateusernames
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I know alot of women who can fight. And knock men out. People need to stop acting like all women are these fragile harmless creatures.
Im a man and i know i dont jump in a mans face and hurl insults at him if i dont wanna get punched. Women should know that also. All people should
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:14am #943337

Ihateusernames
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I know alot of women who can fight. And knock men out. People need to stop acting like all women are these fragile harmless creatures.
Im a man and i know i dont jump in a mans face and hurl insults at him if i dont wanna get punched. Women should know that also. All people should
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:28am #943488
  
  butidonthavemoney
  First of all, you don’t know the circumstances behind this attack, so attempting at to blame the victim before knowing what happened is a clear sign that you are pretty biased against women in general.
  Second, "fragile harmless creature" is relative when you’re up against somebody twice your size. I’m a "fragile harmless creature" against Greg Oden.
  Third, arguing is natural. If your response to every argument is violence, then you should be removed from society. If you think that women should not argue with men our of fear, then you are seriously fucked up.
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- Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:28am #943355
  
  butidonthavemoney
  First of all, you don’t know the circumstances behind this attack, so attempting at to blame the victim before knowing what happened is a clear sign that you are pretty biased against women in general.
  Second, "fragile harmless creature" is relative when you’re up against somebody twice your size. I’m a "fragile harmless creature" against Greg Oden.
  Third, arguing is natural. If your response to every argument is violence, then you should be removed from society. If you think that women should not argue with men our of fear, then you are seriously fucked up.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:30am #943362
    
    Cameron
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    Just gotta go for the knees v. G. Oden
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:30am #943494
    
    Cameron
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    Just gotta go for the knees v. G. Oden
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:12am #943383
    
    Scrooge McDuck
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    @Butidonthavemoney: you mean alleged victim. Is Oden presumed guilty until proven innocent? Are Women naturally victims?
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:48am #943417
      
      butidonthavemoney
      "Are Women naturally victims?"
      The police report details blood, swelling, and lacerations to the girl. They also found blood on the floor. She was clearly hurt by something.
      The dictionary definition of a "victim" is as follows:
      "a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action."
      There was obviously a victim here.
      I didn’t say anyone was guilty or innocent. I was responding to somebody that thinks that an insult begets a punch. Claiming that an assault victim had it coming for being unpleasent or hostile is "blaming the victim". My statement was general.
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:16am #943436
        
        Scrooge McDuck
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        @butidonthavemoney: Oden is entitled to a fair trial. Maybe she did it to herself–then who is the victim?
        Is the alleged victim’s gender relevant in this case?
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:59am #943453
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "Oden is entitled to a fair trial."
        Did I ever say otherwise? No. Read what I posted above.
        "Maybe she did it to herself–then who is the victim?"
        Ignoring the lack of plausibility of this, the victim would still be her. Read the dictionary definition of "victim" I posted above. Even in the event of an accident or Oden’s innocence, she’s still a victim.
        "Is the alleged victim’s gender relevant in this case?"
        No. The only reason I mentioned gender in my last post is because it was brought up by you when you asked:
        "Are Women naturally victims?"
        I told you above that my original statement was a general one. Blaming a victim before knowing any information about the situation is wrong, regardless of gender.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:35pm #943470
        
        Scrooge McDuck
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        my point is Oden could be a victim too… A victim of being framed. It’s naive to say its implausible. It happens to rich people occasionally.
        "This is a problem with society not women." You talked about gender in your first comment by referencing another post. You implicated me (a member of society) as having a problem, trying to shift repsonsibilty to society as opposed to the individual perpetrators.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 1:13pm #943621
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "my point is Oden could be a victim too… A victim of being framed. It’s naive to say its implausible. It happens to rich people occasionally."
        Somebody beating themself up to frame somebody else is not very likely at all. Force of impact, the size of the weapon (or fist) used, and angle of attack can all be determined via blood spatter and medical examination. My assumption is that Greg Oden and his ex-girlfriend are quite different in strength, and that if this was an elaborate frame-job; Oden will be cleared rather quickly. Statistically, the chances of this being the case are very small. I’d argue that it’s naive to consider this to be a likely scenario.
        "’This is a problem with society not women.’ You talked about gender in your first comment by referencing another post. You implicated me (a member of society) as having a problem, trying to shift repsonsibilty to society as opposed to the individual perpetrators."
        No, that was not my point at all. If you assault somebody, you should be punished. Doesn’t matter what your gender is. But if the law thinks it’s not as big of a deal for a woman to hit a man, then I would argue that there’s a problem with the law that needs to be addressed; rather than the entire female gender.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 1:13pm #943487
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "my point is Oden could be a victim too… A victim of being framed. It’s naive to say its implausible. It happens to rich people occasionally."
        Somebody beating themself up to frame somebody else is not very likely at all. Force of impact, the size of the weapon (or fist) used, and angle of attack can all be determined via blood spatter and medical examination. My assumption is that Greg Oden and his ex-girlfriend are quite different in strength, and that if this was an elaborate frame-job; Oden will be cleared rather quickly. Statistically, the chances of this being the case are very small. I’d argue that it’s naive to consider this to be a likely scenario.
        "’This is a problem with society not women.’ You talked about gender in your first comment by referencing another post. You implicated me (a member of society) as having a problem, trying to shift repsonsibilty to society as opposed to the individual perpetrators."
        No, that was not my point at all. If you assault somebody, you should be punished. Doesn’t matter what your gender is. But if the law thinks it’s not as big of a deal for a woman to hit a man, then I would argue that there’s a problem with the law that needs to be addressed; rather than the entire female gender.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 5:23pm #943709
        
        Shaquille Oatmeal
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        Are you serious? Even without reading the report, the idea that a woman would frame her boyfriend by having someone else batter her all over the house is pretty ludicrous. And, it’s even more ludicrous when you read the story. "I was wrong, and I know what has to happen," Oden told police, according to the report. Of course Greg Oden’s entitled to a fair trial, but that statement’s going to be pretty damning evidence in any court of law.
        It’s amazing how far you’re willing to go to exonerate Oden and blame the victim.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 5:23pm #943575
        
        Shaquille Oatmeal
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        Are you serious? Even without reading the report, the idea that a woman would frame her boyfriend by having someone else batter her all over the house is pretty ludicrous. And, it’s even more ludicrous when you read the story. "I was wrong, and I know what has to happen," Oden told police, according to the report. Of course Greg Oden’s entitled to a fair trial, but that statement’s going to be pretty damning evidence in any court of law.
        It’s amazing how far you’re willing to go to exonerate Oden and blame the victim.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 12:35pm #943603
        
        Scrooge McDuck
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        my point is Oden could be a victim too… A victim of being framed. It’s naive to say its implausible. It happens to rich people occasionally.
        "This is a problem with society not women." You talked about gender in your first comment by referencing another post. You implicated me (a member of society) as having a problem, trying to shift repsonsibilty to society as opposed to the individual perpetrators.
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        Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:59am #943587
        
        butidonthavemoney
        "Oden is entitled to a fair trial."
        Did I ever say otherwise? No. Read what I posted above.
        "Maybe she did it to herself–then who is the victim?"
        Ignoring the lack of plausibility of this, the victim would still be her. Read the dictionary definition of "victim" I posted above. Even in the event of an accident or Oden’s innocence, she’s still a victim.
        "Is the alleged victim’s gender relevant in this case?"
        No. The only reason I mentioned gender in my last post is because it was brought up by you when you asked:
        "Are Women naturally victims?"
        I told you above that my original statement was a general one. Blaming a victim before knowing any information about the situation is wrong, regardless of gender.
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      - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:16am #943568
        
        Scrooge McDuck
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        @butidonthavemoney: Oden is entitled to a fair trial. Maybe she did it to herself–then who is the victim?
        Is the alleged victim’s gender relevant in this case?
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    - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:48am #943550
      
      butidonthavemoney
      "Are Women naturally victims?"
      The police report details blood, swelling, and lacerations to the girl. They also found blood on the floor. She was clearly hurt by something.
      The dictionary definition of a "victim" is as follows:
      "a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action."
      There was obviously a victim here.
      I didn’t say anyone was guilty or innocent. I was responding to somebody that thinks that an insult begets a punch. Claiming that an assault victim had it coming for being unpleasent or hostile is "blaming the victim". My statement was general.
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  - Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:12am #943516
    
    Scrooge McDuck
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    @Butidonthavemoney: you mean alleged victim. Is Oden presumed guilty until proven innocent? Are Women naturally victims?
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:26am #943481

ahuang16
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Pretty disappointed in him, just as he was starting to ease back into the league.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:26am #943349

ahuang16
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Pretty disappointed in him, just as he was starting to ease back into the league.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:27am #943483

RUDEBOY_
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you shoever hit another human beingriod especially a woman..stephen a. smith wasnt sing hig a woman was ok.he was stating a true fact,that alot of womwn start confrontations….
women are wired differntlt from men..a woman top 5 things to get upset about might not make a man’s top 50 list of reasons to become angry..
i remember when i was in college my buddy and i took our gfs shopping..his gf asked him to buy a shirt and a pair or pants for her dad father’s day… we found it she gave it to another guy she as dating….there arent many men that wouldnt want to put hands on her after that..
and fellas we know alot of girls in the hood consider a guy weak if he’s not aggressive…they will do and say things they know will tick u off…
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 9:27am #943351

RUDEBOY_
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you shoever hit another human beingriod especially a woman..stephen a. smith wasnt sing hig a woman was ok.he was stating a true fact,that alot of womwn start confrontations….
women are wired differntlt from men..a woman top 5 things to get upset about might not make a man’s top 50 list of reasons to become angry..
i remember when i was in college my buddy and i took our gfs shopping..his gf asked him to buy a shirt and a pair or pants for her dad father’s day… we found it she gave it to another guy she as dating….there arent many men that wouldnt want to put hands on her after that..
and fellas we know alot of girls in the hood consider a guy weak if he’s not aggressive…they will do and say things they know will tick u off…
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:18am #943389

The8thDeadlySin
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Its simple. Don’t hit a woman.. There are laws against it.. And lets be real, its common sense.. Men, just based on genetics are the more physically dominate sex.. That is the norm.. Laws are in place to protect women because of this.. If you don’t think this is fair, I propose that we change the law to this:
Men are allowed to hit women anytime, anywhere.. However, upon being hit, women are allowed, and encouraged, to shoot the man that hit her without killing him.. .
That will solve all the problems..
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:18am #943522

The8thDeadlySin
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Its simple. Don’t hit a woman.. There are laws against it.. And lets be real, its common sense.. Men, just based on genetics are the more physically dominate sex.. That is the norm.. Laws are in place to protect women because of this.. If you don’t think this is fair, I propose that we change the law to this:
Men are allowed to hit women anytime, anywhere.. However, upon being hit, women are allowed, and encouraged, to shoot the man that hit her without killing him.. .
That will solve all the problems..
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:21am #943395

Meditated States
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Speaking the truth right there.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:21am #943528

Meditated States
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Speaking the truth right there.
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:45am #943413

IndianaBasketball
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Greg Oden is a fool. Yea, for losing his temper and allegedly hitting/shoving her in the face, but for not leaving her alone a long time ago. She’s crazy and everybody around here knows that. Just last summer the talk of this area was how she got stupid and tried to beat on him in a club.
Oden is seriously one of the nicest dudes you could ever meet. For him to lose his temper, she had to really push him to the edge. Take note men… IF you can even imagine yourself putting your hands on a woman or if she’s hitting on you, let her go. She’s not the one for you.

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 10:45am #943546

IndianaBasketball
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Greg Oden is a fool. Yea, for losing his temper and allegedly hitting/shoving her in the face, but for not leaving her alone a long time ago. She’s crazy and everybody around here knows that. Just last summer the talk of this area was how she got stupid and tried to beat on him in a club.
Oden is seriously one of the nicest dudes you could ever meet. For him to lose his temper, she had to really push him to the edge. Take note men… IF you can even imagine yourself putting your hands on a woman or if she’s hitting on you, let her go. She’s not the one for you.

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:14am #943438

Ihateusernames
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Alot of men are conditioned by society to be puzzywhipped so @butidonthavemoney, ive run into many guys like you. AND I wasnt referring to odens case just male female confrontations in general.

If you think that women disrespecting men and slapping around is cool then have fun w that. I think respect is universal not just something men should show women
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 11:14am #943570

Ihateusernames
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Alot of men are conditioned by society to be puzzywhipped so @butidonthavemoney, ive run into many guys like you. AND I wasnt referring to odens case just male female confrontations in general.

If you think that women disrespecting men and slapping around is cool then have fun w that. I think respect is universal not just something men should show women
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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:36pm #943737

ncballer
This thread has really opened my eyes to a lot of things. Sad world we live in. I do some gender studies and research for the University I currently attend. Some of you men are blind to the reality. Is it wrong to hit a woman? Yes of course. It is not rational nor acceptable. Is a man hitting a man irrational to solve disputes? Very irrational. Is a woman hitting a woman irrrational to solve disputes? Again very irrational.
That being said. In our society it is perfectly rational for a woman to hit a man in almost all circumstances. We ignore the fact that roughly 45% of domestic disputes are female to male violent disputes. In almost all male to female domestic violent disputes (where there was a relationship or marriage involved) there was also found high levels of coercion, manipulation and mental ilness in the woman involved.
In other words the woman drove that man mad. It isn’t like it is painted in the movies where the terrible egotistical man relentlessly beats his perfect angelic wife, it’s when the crazy provokes the man and he doesn’t know how to handle it.
And yet here is how society treats it: (don’t turn volume up at work for language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch
Again I do not condone hitting women, however to think they are completely innocent in the disputes and are completely angelic in it is frankly naive.
Society is shaped like this unfortunatly. It is rational for a woman to make her husband sleep on the couch when he doesn’t cater to her needs, but Heaven forbid if he even thought of it.
I invite all of you to read "the Manipulated Man" by Esther Vilar (written by a woman). Will really open your eyes to a different perspective from those of the feminists, media etc.
Greg Oden was likely provoked to a point where he didn’t know how to attack the conflict verbally. It is wrong of him there should be justice. However if the roles were reversed, this doesn’t make the news because from societies point of view "he probably deserved it".

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Posted on: Thu, 08/07/2014 - 7:36pm #943602

ncballer
This thread has really opened my eyes to a lot of things. Sad world we live in. I do some gender studies and research for the University I currently attend. Some of you men are blind to the reality. Is it wrong to hit a woman? Yes of course. It is not rational nor acceptable. Is a man hitting a man irrational to solve disputes? Very irrational. Is a woman hitting a woman irrrational to solve disputes? Again very irrational.
That being said. In our society it is perfectly rational for a woman to hit a man in almost all circumstances. We ignore the fact that roughly 45% of domestic disputes are female to male violent disputes. In almost all male to female domestic violent disputes (where there was a relationship or marriage involved) there was also found high levels of coercion, manipulation and mental ilness in the woman involved.
In other words the woman drove that man mad. It isn’t like it is painted in the movies where the terrible egotistical man relentlessly beats his perfect angelic wife, it’s when the crazy provokes the man and he doesn’t know how to handle it.
And yet here is how society treats it: (don’t turn volume up at work for language)
http://www.youtube.com/watch
Again I do not condone hitting women, however to think they are completely innocent in the disputes and are completely angelic in it is frankly naive.
Society is shaped like this unfortunatly. It is rational for a woman to make her husband sleep on the couch when he doesn’t cater to her needs, but Heaven forbid if he even thought of it.
I invite all of you to read "the Manipulated Man" by Esther Vilar (written by a woman). Will really open your eyes to a different perspective from those of the feminists, media etc.
Greg Oden was likely provoked to a point where he didn’t know how to attack the conflict verbally. It is wrong of him there should be justice. However if the roles were reversed, this doesn’t make the news because from societies point of view "he probably deserved it".

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