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  • Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2014 - 3:30pm #57617
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    PHILADELPHIA – The NBA Competition Committee has yet to determine whether it will recommend altering the draft lottery as early as next season in an attempt to dissuade teams like the Philadelphia 76ers from deliberately fielding a non-competitive roster in order to acquire a high draft pick, a change reportedly being pursued by NBA commissioner Adam Silver, according to a league source.
    But any ultimate decision will be made by the NBA Board of Governors, which could vote to redistribute the odds of landing the top draft pick at their next meeting in October.
    The 76ers, entering the second year of a rebuilding program under general manager Sam Hinkie after being mired in mediocrity for most of the last decade, voiced strong opposition to such a change during league meetings in Las Vegas earlier this month, according to an ESPN report.
    The 76ers did not respond to a request for comment Wednesday, but a team source said it’s "a stretch" to say the club "strongly" opposes changing the lottery odds. "But no team … that is unlikely to compete for the playoffs would want this. Right?"
    The proposal "gives more incentive for mid-level teams … to not stretch for the playoffs," the source said. That’s a "tough message on parity."
    Philadelphia blatantly sacrificed last season in an effort to acquire a top draft pick, stripping the roster of veteran talent and keeping rookie center Nerlens Noel, who tore an anterior cruciate ligament in February 2012, sidelined for the duration of the team’s 19-63 slog, which included an NBA-record 26-game losing streak and resulted in the second-worst record in the league.
    "I think the season has been a huge success for us," 76ers owner Josh Harris said in April. "All these pieces are in place to make this an elite team that will compete consistently for the NBA championship. There are no shortcuts to it. Unfortunately, it takes a long time. I’m really happy with the progress."
    Hinkie appeared to double down on the tanking tactic for the upcoming season by using two lottery picks on players unable to immediately compete for the team. The 76ers selected center Joel Embiid, who is likely to miss the season with a stress fracture in his right foot, with the third overall pick and traded the 10th pick to Orlando to acquire a future first-round selection and Croatian forward Dario Saric, who is contractually obligated to play the next two seasons overseas. The 76ers also have nearly $30 million in unused salary cap space.
    In March, Silver praised the 76ers’ rebuilding strategy.
    "It’s an insult to the entire league to suggest that these guys are going out on the floor and aren’t doing their very best to win games…" Silver said. "You look at any business, you look at short-term results and long-term results. And if you told a business, if somebody told you a business was going to operate on a quarter-by-quarter [basis], you’d say, ‘That’s not the way to operate a business.’ You’d say, ‘You need a strategy. You need to look at the long-term.’ And I think what this organization is doing is absolutely the right thing. What they’re doing is planning for the future and building an organization from the ground level up.
    "And so, if you look at what’s happened here over the last several years, it’s badly needed," he said. "Somebody needs a plan. Somebody needs a vision to win here. And I think that’s what’s happening."
    The lottery system was originally adopted in 1985 in response to tanking accusations and altered to encompass only the top three picks in 1987. A weighted system was instituted in 1990, and the odds have since been modified on a number of occasions.
    In its current incarnation, each season the 14 non-playoff teams are given diminishing odds of acquiring one of the top three overall draft picks, with the team with the NBA’s worst record receiving a 25 percent chance at landing the No. 1 overall selection.
    A number of alterations have been discussed, with one proposed change reportedly providing the six worst teams equal odds of acquiring the top pick.
    In May, the Cleveland Cavaliers received the top draft pick for the third time in four seasons, despite finishing with the ninth-worst record in the league and owning just a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery. The team with the worst record last won the lottery in 2004.
    The competition committee will meet again in late September, followed by the board’s meeting in October.
    "As the NBA always does, it is taking a look at certain practices and attempting to see if they are still relevant. The Draft Lottery is one of those," a source said. "No decision has been made at this time to alter it or to leave it as is.

    News Source: http://nbasportupdates.blogspot.com/2014/08/nba-considering-change-in-draft-lottery.html

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  • Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2014 - 8:41pm #941876
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    If teams want to tank…let them lose out on a bunch of revenue and damage their reputation. But there are a lot of bad teams in the NBA, not because of tanking but because of the system. Players have too much power and move too much in Free Agency. Bad teams lose enough during an 82 game season, why make them lose more during the draft?

    I don’t get the notion that we punish teams for being bad…losing all year is their punishment. If the better teams continue to get the best CHANCE at the top prospects, the rich are only getting richer and there is a huge gap between the best teams and the worst teams.

    You want to eliminate tanking…take away fully guaranteed contracts.

    I could go on and on about some of the things I disagree with about the way the NBA operates. I think it allows too much movement in Free agency and doesn’t allow teams that draft well to keep all their players. If my team drafts two superstars in back to back years, why cant they sign both of them to as big and long of contracts as they see fit? Why is there a "designated player" contract? As a Wolves fan, it has in a round about way screwed us because if we would’ve had unlimited, Kahnsie would’ve probably given Love a max extension.

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  • Posted on: Fri, 08/01/2014 - 8:41pm #941742
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    If teams want to tank…let them lose out on a bunch of revenue and damage their reputation. But there are a lot of bad teams in the NBA, not because of tanking but because of the system. Players have too much power and move too much in Free Agency. Bad teams lose enough during an 82 game season, why make them lose more during the draft?

    I don’t get the notion that we punish teams for being bad…losing all year is their punishment. If the better teams continue to get the best CHANCE at the top prospects, the rich are only getting richer and there is a huge gap between the best teams and the worst teams.

    You want to eliminate tanking…take away fully guaranteed contracts.

    I could go on and on about some of the things I disagree with about the way the NBA operates. I think it allows too much movement in Free agency and doesn’t allow teams that draft well to keep all their players. If my team drafts two superstars in back to back years, why cant they sign both of them to as big and long of contracts as they see fit? Why is there a "designated player" contract? As a Wolves fan, it has in a round about way screwed us because if we would’ve had unlimited, Kahnsie would’ve probably given Love a max extension.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 08/02/2014 - 7:48am #941827
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     changing the draft lottery to discourage tanking why not change the revenue sharing ? Rather than giving teams an even share of the pie, create a sliding scale based on wins. If a team is consistently a 15-20 win team they shouldn’t get a full revenue share because they’re not enhancing the NBA product. No doubt the NBA front office has enough math geeks to create a sliding scale that would prevent the perpetually bad teams from financial failure, while also limiting they’re financial upside. Just a thought.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 08/02/2014 - 7:48am #941960
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     changing the draft lottery to discourage tanking why not change the revenue sharing ? Rather than giving teams an even share of the pie, create a sliding scale based on wins. If a team is consistently a 15-20 win team they shouldn’t get a full revenue share because they’re not enhancing the NBA product. No doubt the NBA front office has enough math geeks to create a sliding scale that would prevent the perpetually bad teams from financial failure, while also limiting they’re financial upside. Just a thought.

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  • Posted on: Sat, 08/02/2014 - 2:08pm #941913
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    Hey, basketball is a competitive sport so why should the spirit of the Sixers Organization’s strategy run so very counter to that?  Why aren’t other bad teams complaining?  Seems most other teams at least want to try even if the odds are stacked against them from moving from 30th worst to 27th worst.  One team has to be the worst, but it should never be aspired to even if it can get them that LeBron-level star someday.

    Compromise Solution: make some half-way tweaks for the 2015 lottery like top 4 picks are random and just the worst 2 teams have even odds of about 17% and fully go to the 11% for the worst 5-6 teams for the 2016 lottery.  (FYI: the NFL system won’t work in the NBA because of smaller and guaranteed rosters where a franchise player matters much much more.)

     

    Other obvious lottery fixes:

    1-No more consecutive #1 picks when it is your own pick

    2-Balance the schedule for the last part of the season (20 games or so) and the lottery team with the worst record for that period is barred from the #1 pick

    3-No more pick protection in the non-random lottery range…for example: top 2 would be okay, top 14 would be okay but top 8 or top 10 would not

     

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  • Posted on: Sat, 08/02/2014 - 2:08pm #942045
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    Hey, basketball is a competitive sport so why should the spirit of the Sixers Organization’s strategy run so very counter to that?  Why aren’t other bad teams complaining?  Seems most other teams at least want to try even if the odds are stacked against them from moving from 30th worst to 27th worst.  One team has to be the worst, but it should never be aspired to even if it can get them that LeBron-level star someday.

    Compromise Solution: make some half-way tweaks for the 2015 lottery like top 4 picks are random and just the worst 2 teams have even odds of about 17% and fully go to the 11% for the worst 5-6 teams for the 2016 lottery.  (FYI: the NFL system won’t work in the NBA because of smaller and guaranteed rosters where a franchise player matters much much more.)

     

    Other obvious lottery fixes:

    1-No more consecutive #1 picks when it is your own pick

    2-Balance the schedule for the last part of the season (20 games or so) and the lottery team with the worst record for that period is barred from the #1 pick

    3-No more pick protection in the non-random lottery range…for example: top 2 would be okay, top 14 would be okay but top 8 or top 10 would not

     

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