Evan Turner signs with the Celtics

 I was struggling with this move, but then I got looking at it. First, they have 18 players under contract going into next season. That has to mean that a trade is going to happen. I know they can cut Bogans, Babb, Johnson, and/or Pressey, but I don’t think Ainge would just cut an asset like Bogans non-guaranteed contract. In all likelihood, a Rondo trade is about to happen, but if not, I definitely could see Green and/or Bass getting traded to a contender looking for one more piece. 

Second, even though Young and Bradley play the same ‘position’ as Turner, they do not play the same style. I think Stevens plans to have Turner, Smart, Pressey, and (possibly) Rondo initiate the offense with Young, Bradley, and Thorton working off of the initiators by attacking closeouts and in catch-and-shoot situations. 

I’m still kind of waiting to see this roster take shape. I know it might be another year, but all of these mis-matched pieces really bug me. I want to see them working together in sync to win games. 

 I was struggling with this move, but then I got looking at it. First, they have 18 players under contract going into next season. That has to mean that a trade is going to happen. I know they can cut Bogans, Babb, Johnson, and/or Pressey, but I don’t think Ainge would just cut an asset like Bogans non-guaranteed contract. In all likelihood, a Rondo trade is about to happen, but if not, I definitely could see Green and/or Bass getting traded to a contender looking for one more piece. 

Second, even though Young and Bradley play the same ‘position’ as Turner, they do not play the same style. I think Stevens plans to have Turner, Smart, Pressey, and (possibly) Rondo initiate the offense with Young, Bradley, and Thorton working off of the initiators by attacking closeouts and in catch-and-shoot situations. 

I’m still kind of waiting to see this roster take shape. I know it might be another year, but all of these mis-matched pieces really bug me. I want to see them working together in sync to win games. 

 Terrible move. Turner will stifle Young’s development. The Celtics have really disappointed me the last two offseasons with their drafting and signings.

 Terrible move. Turner will stifle Young’s development. The Celtics have really disappointed me the last two offseasons with their drafting and signings.

This is not a good move. The Last thing Boston needs is another "needs the ball" dominate guard who does not excel at shooting. They already have Rondo and Smart for that. There is a reason why no one offered ET a contract. The Pacers just lost Lance and still didn’t offer ET a contract. Philly gave him away for nothing last season. Unless Ainge has some sort of trade coming, there is no need for ET. I would much rather have ET’s future minutes go to James Young. Chances are now that Young gets minimal backup minutes behind Boston’s 7 guard team.

This is not a good move. The Last thing Boston needs is another "needs the ball" dominate guard who does not excel at shooting. They already have Rondo and Smart for that. There is a reason why no one offered ET a contract. The Pacers just lost Lance and still didn’t offer ET a contract. Philly gave him away for nothing last season. Unless Ainge has some sort of trade coming, there is no need for ET. I would much rather have ET’s future minutes go to James Young. Chances are now that Young gets minimal backup minutes behind Boston’s 7 guard team.

 I said it from the start, for him to succeed he have to play at pg position…

 I said it from the start, for him to succeed he have to play at pg position…

As a Philly fan I kept waiting for Turner to get a chance as a PG but it never really happened. It will

be interesting to see what Ainge has in mind for him, I really respect Ainge’s judgement.

As a Philly fan I kept waiting for Turner to get a chance as a PG but it never really happened. It will

be interesting to see what Ainge has in mind for him, I really respect Ainge’s judgement.

 So beside the shaky jump shot from Bradley, the Celtics will absolute not shoot from outside…

 So beside the shaky jump shot from Bradley, the Celtics will absolute not shoot from outside…

Turner won’t do any point duties at the Celtics but it does give them another very ball handler and passer on the team. If Brad Stevens has very good passers at PG, SG and SF then it allows them to spread the floor and look for the best shooting opportunties which will make someone like Kelly Olynyk more effective.

Glad to see Evan get snapped up, I had thought a contender with a bit of cap space might have had a look at him given his good basketball IQ.

The irony is if he had played out the whole of last season in Philly even if Hinkie didn’t see him as a long term part of the squad then I reckon someone would have made him a good offer thinking they were getting a very good deal. Once he was traded he got labelled a volume shooter and almost a stats padder on a poor team who then ended up buried on a contender’s bench.

I always saw Turner as better than that and whilst he will be 26 soon and took time to get the starting gig at Philly, he was still considered a likely MIP contender on here just a couple of years ago. Hopefully he has a good run at Boston.

Turner won’t do any point duties at the Celtics but it does give them another very ball handler and passer on the team. If Brad Stevens has very good passers at PG, SG and SF then it allows them to spread the floor and look for the best shooting opportunties which will make someone like Kelly Olynyk more effective.

Glad to see Evan get snapped up, I had thought a contender with a bit of cap space might have had a look at him given his good basketball IQ.

The irony is if he had played out the whole of last season in Philly even if Hinkie didn’t see him as a long term part of the squad then I reckon someone would have made him a good offer thinking they were getting a very good deal. Once he was traded he got labelled a volume shooter and almost a stats padder on a poor team who then ended up buried on a contender’s bench.

I always saw Turner as better than that and whilst he will be 26 soon and took time to get the starting gig at Philly, he was still considered a likely MIP contender on here just a couple of years ago. Hopefully he has a good run at Boston.

 It’ll be interesting to see Turner fit within a Stevens offense.  Whenever he got the ball for the Pacers last year, everyone cringed in the whole stadium.  It was worse of a black hole than Granger, as Granger would at least spot up and shoot.  Turner would try to drive to the whole, missing every opportunity to pass along the way.  This is not Brad Stevens basketball.

I will give him Kudos for sticking up for Hibbert when Lance said some stuff at practice.  He was a newer guy to our locker room and didn’t have to get involved, but stood up for his teammate.  Minor thought, but goes a long way.

 It’ll be interesting to see Turner fit within a Stevens offense.  Whenever he got the ball for the Pacers last year, everyone cringed in the whole stadium.  It was worse of a black hole than Granger, as Granger would at least spot up and shoot.  Turner would try to drive to the whole, missing every opportunity to pass along the way.  This is not Brad Stevens basketball.

I will give him Kudos for sticking up for Hibbert when Lance said some stuff at practice.  He was a newer guy to our locker room and didn’t have to get involved, but stood up for his teammate.  Minor thought, but goes a long way.

 Welcome to the forum AlexCook. Amusing thought that Big Roy Hibbert would need someone to stick up for him when he is 9 inches taller than Lance and outweighs him by about 50lbs #mismatch.

Good point by DWC above, Boston now have 18 players under contract so it occured to me if Danny Ainge did decide to trade Rondo then he’d probably need a 3rd team involved, look mainly for picks or the deal would involve a lot of players. My point is when a top player gets traded – more bodies go back the other way usually young pieces and guys to even up the salaries. Boston might end up receiving say 3 players back plus picks for Rondo, this then pushes their roster to maybe 20 so Ainge would need to waive players in due course and he would not want to waive the young trade pieces.

Hence he finds another team to take a player or two from Boston or tries to tag more players going back the other way with Rondo.

 Welcome to the forum AlexCook. Amusing thought that Big Roy Hibbert would need someone to stick up for him when he is 9 inches taller than Lance and outweighs him by about 50lbs #mismatch.

Good point by DWC above, Boston now have 18 players under contract so it occured to me if Danny Ainge did decide to trade Rondo then he’d probably need a 3rd team involved, look mainly for picks or the deal would involve a lot of players. My point is when a top player gets traded – more bodies go back the other way usually young pieces and guys to even up the salaries. Boston might end up receiving say 3 players back plus picks for Rondo, this then pushes their roster to maybe 20 so Ainge would need to waive players in due course and he would not want to waive the young trade pieces.

Hence he finds another team to take a player or two from Boston or tries to tag more players going back the other way with Rondo.

The 2014-15 Boston Celtics look a lot like the 2006-07 version, which is both good and bad. The first part of the bad is that they are poised to lose a lot. The good is that they have pieces that can allow them to buy hard (new era Garnett, Allen) if they so choose. Keith Bogans has a non-guaranteed deal. They are holding trade exceptions from Kris Humphies and Courtney Lee. Marcus Thornton, Joel Anthony, and Brandon Bass are expiring deals. With James Young, Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, Tyler Zeller, and Kelly Olynyk, they have rookie-scaled players that may intrigue other teams as well as a pair of picks next summer (the Clippers pick from the Doc Rivers trade) and the seeming lock that is the 31st pick because they have the Sixers pick. The second part of the bad is that if they do not buy hard, Rajon Rondo is also in his final year. Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, and Marcus Smart do not look like they fit together. If they sell off Rondo, then they head down the "whatif" path had they dealt Pierce in 2007. 

The 2014-15 Boston Celtics look a lot like the 2006-07 version, which is both good and bad. The first part of the bad is that they are poised to lose a lot. The good is that they have pieces that can allow them to buy hard (new era Garnett, Allen) if they so choose. Keith Bogans has a non-guaranteed deal. They are holding trade exceptions from Kris Humphies and Courtney Lee. Marcus Thornton, Joel Anthony, and Brandon Bass are expiring deals. With James Young, Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, Tyler Zeller, and Kelly Olynyk, they have rookie-scaled players that may intrigue other teams as well as a pair of picks next summer (the Clippers pick from the Doc Rivers trade) and the seeming lock that is the 31st pick because they have the Sixers pick. The second part of the bad is that if they do not buy hard, Rajon Rondo is also in his final year. Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, and Marcus Smart do not look like they fit together. If they sell off Rondo, then they head down the "whatif" path had they dealt Pierce in 2007.