Report: 76ers very interested in embiid at 3

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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:04pm #56635

Ballinmvp
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http://mweb.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24594643/report-76ers-interested-in-embiid-at-no-3
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:06pm #924250

TheLastWord
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The beauty of this it means their epically bad next year, and can grab another elite center prospect in Okafor.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:07pm #924510
  
  Fo Fo Fo
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  Sign me up. I can stomach another cellar-dwelling season of if it means we get Embiid this year and Okafor next year. Okafor and either Noel or Embiid would be a great pairing at 4 and 5. Having both Noel and Embiid would double our chances of having one of them pan out. And either one would be a great complement to Okafor’s size and strength. Noel/Embiid can protect the rim, Okafor can bang bodies. And just imagine if two of the three developed into All-Star calibre players.
  In fact, I’ve got no problem with taking still another big man in this year’s first round … well, one power forward in particular. I really like Payne and if we could package something to move back up into the first and get Payne then I’d do that in a heartbeat, even if we already picked Embiid at #3. I like Payne so much that I might even take him at #10 because I think he’s coming off the board shortly after it gets past the lottery picks. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Payne go in the tail end of the lottery.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:07pm #924381
  
  Fo Fo Fo
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  Sign me up. I can stomach another cellar-dwelling season of if it means we get Embiid this year and Okafor next year. Okafor and either Noel or Embiid would be a great pairing at 4 and 5. Having both Noel and Embiid would double our chances of having one of them pan out. And either one would be a great complement to Okafor’s size and strength. Noel/Embiid can protect the rim, Okafor can bang bodies. And just imagine if two of the three developed into All-Star calibre players.
  In fact, I’ve got no problem with taking still another big man in this year’s first round … well, one power forward in particular. I really like Payne and if we could package something to move back up into the first and get Payne then I’d do that in a heartbeat, even if we already picked Embiid at #3. I like Payne so much that I might even take him at #10 because I think he’s coming off the board shortly after it gets past the lottery picks. It wouldn’t surprise me to see Payne go in the tail end of the lottery.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:06pm #924378

TheLastWord
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The beauty of this it means their epically bad next year, and can grab another elite center prospect in Okafor.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:11pm #924252

xJumpManx
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I think the Sixers Interst in Embiid would be more about trading him to the Cavs for Wiggins plus more. Im not entirely sure the Cavs have given up on Embiid. In the NBA trades happen after the pick not before so draftr night could get interesting there.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:27pm #924257
  
  TripleDoubleScout
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  JumpMan that’s exactly what this is. Sixers fans might not like the deal on draft night, but big picture it could pay dividends if the Cavs throw in Andy V’s expiring contract as one rumor report stated
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:12pm #924514
    
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    I would be very suprised if they traded AV. But it could happen. Av is such a huge fan favorite in Cleveland, but he is getting older and he seems to not be able to stay healthy as of late.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:12pm #924385
    
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    I would be very suprised if they traded AV. But it could happen. Av is such a huge fan favorite in Cleveland, but he is getting older and he seems to not be able to stay healthy as of late.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:27pm #924386
  
  TripleDoubleScout
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  JumpMan that’s exactly what this is. Sixers fans might not like the deal on draft night, but big picture it could pay dividends if the Cavs throw in Andy V’s expiring contract as one rumor report stated
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:11pm #924380

xJumpManx
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I think the Sixers Interst in Embiid would be more about trading him to the Cavs for Wiggins plus more. Im not entirely sure the Cavs have given up on Embiid. In the NBA trades happen after the pick not before so draftr night could get interesting there.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:12pm #924254

TRC1991
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I have Embiid going 3. His ceiling is way too high to slide because of a broken bone. Take the risk
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:12pm #924382

TRC1991
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I have Embiid going 3. His ceiling is way too high to slide because of a broken bone. Take the risk
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:25pm #924255

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Speaking as a Sixers season ticket holder, if they keep the 3rd pick and the two forwards are gone Embiid is the ONLY player that would make me happy. The similar skill set and general unknown of Exum, lack of shooting for Smart, and the lack of potential star power for the three power forwards would make last season’s tank a total waste.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:56pm #924272
  
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  Man any of the 3 power fowards could easily be future stars…gtfo. Not one of them doesn’t have all star potential. Quit acting like this is a 3 player draft cause its not.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:05pm #924280
    
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    Not saying they can’t be All Stars but the purpose of tanking this season was to get a franchise changing player, rebuilding from the ground up with the kind of superstar to lead a team to the Finals. Vonleh, Randle, and Gordon all have potential but question marks and none of them project as a Garnett, Malone, Duncan type to build a team around. They could end up being good #2 options but they aren’t the type of guys you gut a team for and endure a season where you field mostly an NBDL roster
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    - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:32pm #924424
      
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      Thats the risk in tanking you dont always get franchise changing talent. Thats why player development is so important. Look at the Cavs…they have enough "potential talent" on that team to "potentially" compete with anyone in the league. If that potential is not realized, selected, and organized correctly you get a team that cant even qaulify for the playoffs 4 years in the lottery with 3 1st overall selections.
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    - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:32pm #924296
      
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      Thats the risk in tanking you dont always get franchise changing talent. Thats why player development is so important. Look at the Cavs…they have enough "potential talent" on that team to "potentially" compete with anyone in the league. If that potential is not realized, selected, and organized correctly you get a team that cant even qaulify for the playoffs 4 years in the lottery with 3 1st overall selections.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:05pm #924408
    
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    Not saying they can’t be All Stars but the purpose of tanking this season was to get a franchise changing player, rebuilding from the ground up with the kind of superstar to lead a team to the Finals. Vonleh, Randle, and Gordon all have potential but question marks and none of them project as a Garnett, Malone, Duncan type to build a team around. They could end up being good #2 options but they aren’t the type of guys you gut a team for and endure a season where you field mostly an NBDL roster
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 2:03pm #924430
    
    Neggedpastor
    I agree theirs to much talent to select embiid at the 3.
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  - Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 2:03pm #924302
    
    Neggedpastor
    I agree theirs to much talent to select embiid at the 3.
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:56pm #924400
  
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  Man any of the 3 power fowards could easily be future stars…gtfo. Not one of them doesn’t have all star potential. Quit acting like this is a 3 player draft cause its not.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:25pm #924384

MattP31
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Speaking as a Sixers season ticket holder, if they keep the 3rd pick and the two forwards are gone Embiid is the ONLY player that would make me happy. The similar skill set and general unknown of Exum, lack of shooting for Smart, and the lack of potential star power for the three power forwards would make last season’s tank a total waste.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:34pm #924261

Taylor Gang Mike
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I love it. Then hope we get Lavine at 10
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:34pm #924390

Taylor Gang Mike
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I love it. Then hope we get Lavine at 10
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:57pm #924276

Memphis Madness
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It could actually help Noel and Embiid by playing together. Limit their minutes and cut down on getting beat up inside. Twin towers with MCW at point, then go after shooters.
Nobody would fault the Sixers for taking Embiid at 3.
At 10 they can go after a wing player.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 12:57pm #924404

Memphis Madness
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It could actually help Noel and Embiid by playing together. Limit their minutes and cut down on getting beat up inside. Twin towers with MCW at point, then go after shooters.
Nobody would fault the Sixers for taking Embiid at 3.
At 10 they can go after a wing player.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:23pm #924420

ibe12
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Well I guess there are more pros than cons if they do pick him.
1. You’d be getting a player that most people thought was going 1 at 3
2. You can draft and trade him.
3. You can keep him and if he’s healthy you’ll have one of the best center prospects in years.
4. If Noel doesn’t work out you can trade him and still have a franchise big man.
5. If Embbid doesn’t work out there is always a team willing to trade for him based on his potential.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:23pm #924292

ibe12
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Well I guess there are more pros than cons if they do pick him.
1. You’d be getting a player that most people thought was going 1 at 3
2. You can draft and trade him.
3. You can keep him and if he’s healthy you’ll have one of the best center prospects in years.
4. If Noel doesn’t work out you can trade him and still have a franchise big man.
5. If Embbid doesn’t work out there is always a team willing to trade for him based on his potential.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:26pm #924421

burgessfour
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Embiid and live with the decision, even if he plays less than half of next season.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 1:26pm #924294

burgessfour
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Embiid and live with the decision, even if he plays less than half of next season.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 4:38pm #924501

FearTheStache
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Is there a possibility of a smokescreen here? Say maybe to ward off Cleveland from trading down?
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 4:38pm #924373

FearTheStache
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Is there a possibility of a smokescreen here? Say maybe to ward off Cleveland from trading down?
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:34pm #924519
  
  TripleDoubleScout
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  More than a possibility Stache. This is a power play by Philly to ward off a deal with Utah. Unfortunately in the immediate short term for Philly fans Cleveland has about 90% of the leverage. There is no way Hinkie is stupid enough to actually take Embiid with TWO other potential franchise players available when they don’t have a need for him and the Cavs know it. Just take the #/#^ deal Philly you would be getting one of the 10 most gifted athletes of the last 10 years and you don’t have to give up much in the end
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- Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:34pm #924391
  
  TripleDoubleScout
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  More than a possibility Stache. This is a power play by Philly to ward off a deal with Utah. Unfortunately in the immediate short term for Philly fans Cleveland has about 90% of the leverage. There is no way Hinkie is stupid enough to actually take Embiid with TWO other potential franchise players available when they don’t have a need for him and the Cavs know it. Just take the #/#^ deal Philly you would be getting one of the 10 most gifted athletes of the last 10 years and you don’t have to give up much in the end
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:12am #924690
  
  tidho
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  This is exactly what it is.
  This is a defensive move to try and keep Cleveland from trading down with Utah.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:12am #924561
  
  tidho
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  This is exactly what it is.
  This is a defensive move to try and keep Cleveland from trading down with Utah.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:08pm #924512

Makaveli_x
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Hinkie and brown said it’s a 3-5 year plan I would take the risk for a guy who could potentially be the best prospect in this draft I really want wiggins but if we can’t get him why not take embiid we wouldn’t have to rush him back knowing Noel is heathy this year we could wait then once he’s ready see how he works with Noel and if it doesn’t we can trade one of them later on
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 5:08pm #924383

Makaveli_x
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Hinkie and brown said it’s a 3-5 year plan I would take the risk for a guy who could potentially be the best prospect in this draft I really want wiggins but if we can’t get him why not take embiid we wouldn’t have to rush him back knowing Noel is heathy this year we could wait then once he’s ready see how he works with Noel and if it doesn’t we can trade one of them later on
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 7:34pm #924429

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The reason I don’t buy it is because Nerlens Noel doesn’t have the skill to play the four. He can run up and down and block shots and get put-backs, grab boards, finish some alley-oops, but he can’t face up and beat someone to the hoop. He can’t handle the ball. He can’t make perimeter shots. Sure, he’d be able to play the five while Embiid recovers, but what would the long-term plan be? It just seems redundant.
I saw this report from rotoworld.com: “One GM selecting in the top 10 was told flat-out by his medical staff to not draft the 7’0″ prospect.”
On one hand, I feel like Embiid could drop like a rock because it puts such a delay on having an impact player and most of the teams in the lottery are so desperate for impact players. But on the other hand, having to wait a year for Blake Griffin didn’t end badly for the Clippers. I know he was healthy when he was drafted, but it does give some hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 1:35am #924492
  
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  A guy like Dale Davis made a career out of what you just described. With a 5 who can actually score he can just roam on D set screens on offense, roll to the bucket and hit the offensive glass. Not everyone on the team needs to be a scoring threat. Look at OKC – you have 3 guys who can score and some nights that all who scores. Same with Miami.
  Ask Reggie Evans – he can’t shoot outside of 2 feet but made a career out of D and rebounding – and he’s around 6-7 not a 7 footer who can tie his shoes standing up. If Noel avergaes 3 points I’m happy if he’s grabbing 8 boards and blocking 3 shots at the 4
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 2:53am #924504
    
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    I agree, but comparisons to Dale Davis and Reggie Evans are not exactly what you hope to secure in the top 3 of a great draft.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 3:04am #924515
      
      Andrew1984
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      Or top 6 of last year’s draft, I mean.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 3:04am #924644
      
      Andrew1984
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      Or top 6 of last year’s draft, I mean.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 2:53am #924632
    
    Andrew1984
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    I agree, but comparisons to Dale Davis and Reggie Evans are not exactly what you hope to secure in the top 3 of a great draft.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 1:35am #924620
  
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  A guy like Dale Davis made a career out of what you just described. With a 5 who can actually score he can just roam on D set screens on offense, roll to the bucket and hit the offensive glass. Not everyone on the team needs to be a scoring threat. Look at OKC – you have 3 guys who can score and some nights that all who scores. Same with Miami.
  Ask Reggie Evans – he can’t shoot outside of 2 feet but made a career out of D and rebounding – and he’s around 6-7 not a 7 footer who can tie his shoes standing up. If Noel avergaes 3 points I’m happy if he’s grabbing 8 boards and blocking 3 shots at the 4
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 7:34pm #924558

Andrew1984
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The reason I don’t buy it is because Nerlens Noel doesn’t have the skill to play the four. He can run up and down and block shots and get put-backs, grab boards, finish some alley-oops, but he can’t face up and beat someone to the hoop. He can’t handle the ball. He can’t make perimeter shots. Sure, he’d be able to play the five while Embiid recovers, but what would the long-term plan be? It just seems redundant.
I saw this report from rotoworld.com: “One GM selecting in the top 10 was told flat-out by his medical staff to not draft the 7’0″ prospect.”
On one hand, I feel like Embiid could drop like a rock because it puts such a delay on having an impact player and most of the teams in the lottery are so desperate for impact players. But on the other hand, having to wait a year for Blake Griffin didn’t end badly for the Clippers. I know he was healthy when he was drafted, but it does give some hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 8:17pm #924436

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As a Sixers fan I want no part of it. Two stress fractures in such a short period of time, after playing less than 30 college games no less, is a a serious red flag.
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Posted on: Sun, 06/22/2014 - 8:17pm #924564

Endlessknight
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As a Sixers fan I want no part of it. Two stress fractures in such a short period of time, after playing less than 30 college games no less, is a a serious red flag.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:08am #924686

Clean187
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Oh, Bob Cooney tweeted this? He’s such a lazy writer that does no actual work, just kind of takes whatever info is spoon fed to him. Seeing as how secretive the 76ers org is, I would suspect this is most definitely a smokescreen.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:08am #924557

Clean187
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Oh, Bob Cooney tweeted this? He’s such a lazy writer that does no actual work, just kind of takes whatever info is spoon fed to him. Seeing as how secretive the 76ers org is, I would suspect this is most definitely a smokescreen.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:50am #924706

burgessfour
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Wiggins and Parker are gone I don’t think Hinkie will think twice about taking Embiid. That said I just have a funny feeling the order will be Parker, Embiid, Wiggins. Maybe I’m being naive.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 4:50am #924577

burgessfour
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Wiggins and Parker are gone I don’t think Hinkie will think twice about taking Embiid. That said I just have a funny feeling the order will be Parker, Embiid, Wiggins. Maybe I’m being naive.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 5:06am #924726

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For weeks we kept hearing that Exum was an option for the Sixer’s if Wiggins wasn’t there. I understand taking best player available, but some of you Sixer fans seem to think that after the big three there is a huge drop off in talent. That’s just not the truth. Exum, Vonleh, Smart, Randle and Gordon all have all star upside. My sleeper pick all year for the Sixers has been Vonleh. He is a perfect fit next to Noels. Also Vonlehs upside is very close to Embids. If I am the Sixers I’m taking Vonleh or Exum. By the way there were a couple of GM’s that thought these two players deserved to be in tier one along with Wiggins, Paker and Embid.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 5:06am #924596

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For weeks we kept hearing that Exum was an option for the Sixer’s if Wiggins wasn’t there. I understand taking best player available, but some of you Sixer fans seem to think that after the big three there is a huge drop off in talent. That’s just not the truth. Exum, Vonleh, Smart, Randle and Gordon all have all star upside. My sleeper pick all year for the Sixers has been Vonleh. He is a perfect fit next to Noels. Also Vonlehs upside is very close to Embids. If I am the Sixers I’m taking Vonleh or Exum. By the way there were a couple of GM’s that thought these two players deserved to be in tier one along with Wiggins, Paker and Embid.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 1:23pm #924965

Neggedpastor
noel can develop a shot we have seen ibaka develop one and a lot of other players develop shooting abilites.
only players in recent history who didn’t improve their shot much after being drafted are mkg and evan turner but they still improved.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2014 - 1:23pm #925094

Neggedpastor
noel can develop a shot we have seen ibaka develop one and a lot of other players develop shooting abilites.
only players in recent history who didn’t improve their shot much after being drafted are mkg and evan turner but they still improved.
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