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  • #56530
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    SaturdaySportsSection
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    Check out and share this kid’s 5 suggestions to change the NBA Draft. Totally agree with this genius, and I promise this isn’t like spam.

    Here is the abridged version.

     

    1. Require that NBA players are at least twenty years old before their team’s first game. 
    2. Allow anybody who has graduated high school to be drafted, regardless of age. If a team drafts somebody under the age limit, they must wait until he is twenty, until he can play.
    3. The NBA should pay players that have been drafted, regardless of age.
    4. The NBA should encourage players to stay in school. 
    5. Ditch the Draft Lottery and have a panel of over one-hundred experts individually vote on the draft order for lottery teams.   

    Check out the full article at         saturdaysportssection.blogspot.com/2014/06/how-nba-should-restructure-draft-and.html

    Thanks, u won’t be disappointed

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #922483
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    Ballinmvp
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    Let me get this straight I can draft a middle school kid phenom and wait for him to turn 20 and I own his rights? The nba could pay him? And "experts" tell me where I can draft? 

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  • #922356
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    Ballinmvp
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    Let me get this straight I can draft a middle school kid phenom and wait for him to turn 20 and I own his rights? The nba could pay him? And "experts" tell me where I can draft? 

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    • #922419
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      Magic Jordan
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      It definitely says anybody who has graduated highschool.  But I guess if he is a middle school phenom AND a genius then yes.  

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    • #922547
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      Magic Jordan
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      It definitely says anybody who has graduated highschool.  But I guess if he is a middle school phenom AND a genius then yes.  

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  • #922489
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    MattP31
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     Zero chance of this catching on in your way. Let’s say Joel Embiid was drafted a year ago, would someone really want to be paying this kid and taking the chance of him getting hurt when he is playing in games and practices and in a system that isn’t similar to the team’s own? These teams get to monitor player development and run practices as well as push players to work on certain things in practices while they learn the system the team plays. 

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  • #922362
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    MattP31
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     Zero chance of this catching on in your way. Let’s say Joel Embiid was drafted a year ago, would someone really want to be paying this kid and taking the chance of him getting hurt when he is playing in games and practices and in a system that isn’t similar to the team’s own? These teams get to monitor player development and run practices as well as push players to work on certain things in practices while they learn the system the team plays. 

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  • #922493
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    SaturdaySportsSection
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     Nah, it says u must graduate high school to be draft eligible still. So the only ppl that could be ayed would be college athletes, and yea the experts would choose which team needs the #1 pick the most/ which team is the worst in the NBA, i think.

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  • #922366
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     Nah, it says u must graduate high school to be draft eligible still. So the only ppl that could be ayed would be college athletes, and yea the experts would choose which team needs the #1 pick the most/ which team is the worst in the NBA, i think.

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  • #922368
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     Yeah I’d say drafting Embiid last year would have been genius. He was the 25th best recruit, so he’d be a 2nd rd draft pick at best. I doub he’d even be draftable. But under this format, u would be able to secure him before any other team. Paying him and letting him run the risk of injury would be the price u pay for drafting somebody b4 college, but in Embiid’s case (as well as Parker and Wiggins) it would def be worth drafting him early to secure him.The risks would be raised, of course, but that’s the price associated with drafting young.

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  • #922495
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    SaturdaySportsSection
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     Yeah I’d say drafting Embiid last year would have been genius. He was the 25th best recruit, so he’d be a 2nd rd draft pick at best. I doub he’d even be draftable. But under this format, u would be able to secure him before any other team. Paying him and letting him run the risk of injury would be the price u pay for drafting somebody b4 college, but in Embiid’s case (as well as Parker and Wiggins) it would def be worth drafting him early to secure him.The risks would be raised, of course, but that’s the price associated with drafting young.

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  • #922377
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    Neggedpastor

    interesting so it would be beneficial for players to go to college and play before entering because you don’t want a bs deal and most star players aren’t the best in hs. A lot of hs prospects that are ranked high never pan out so it would be interesting with that kind of money looming.

    but also no one can play college ball if they accept any form of financial gain that’s not related to education.

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  • #922505
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    Neggedpastor

    interesting so it would be beneficial for players to go to college and play before entering because you don’t want a bs deal and most star players aren’t the best in hs. A lot of hs prospects that are ranked high never pan out so it would be interesting with that kind of money looming.

    but also no one can play college ball if they accept any form of financial gain that’s not related to education.

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  • #922389
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    mixtape2003
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    So what would the incentive to go to college if drafted?

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  • #922518
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    mixtape2003
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    So what would the incentive to go to college if drafted?

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  • #922395
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    jonus grumby
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    Why not just be able to draft anyone after high school and have an actual developmental league.  Colleges should be for students who are there to learn.

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  • #922524
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    jonus grumby
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    Why not just be able to draft anyone after high school and have an actual developmental league.  Colleges should be for students who are there to learn.

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  • #922409
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    stealsgalore
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    I think an interesting way to do the draft would be some sort of auction system where teams could bid on a draft pick with their available cap space. This would reflect value of different drafts and force teams to spend their money wisely. I would only do this auction system with a certain number of picks (top 10 or 14 or whatever) and then randomly order all te teams after that and the second round. 

    The NBA could still keep the rookie salary structure in place as well, with the winning bid being the base contract the rookie would recieve for his first 4 years. Or they could redo the scale every year based on the $$ the first pick gets and have them negotiate years like all other NBA players.

    Obviously this idea would need a lot of work but I think it could create more parity by giving teams with cap space the oppurtunity to get superstar prospects without having to sign free agents. It also prevents tanking and encourages putting a compeitive team on the floor. It also would result in more smart financial moves being made and better financial executives being hired. 

    A final positive would be the money the NBA could make from televising and covering the auction process (way more interesting than the lottery). I would love to hear thoughts about this idea.

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    • #922433
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      SaturdaySportsSection
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       I’ve thought about this before, my only concern with that is that I think the cost would be extremely high for the top picks and if I bad team tried to get a top person it would maybe decimate their cap and actually worsen the team in the long run. It would be fair tho, although it wouldn’t help the bad teams any more than the good teams the way I’m interpreting it. It does get rid of tankng tho, and is a viable option/

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    • #922561
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      SaturdaySportsSection
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       I’ve thought about this before, my only concern with that is that I think the cost would be extremely high for the top picks and if I bad team tried to get a top person it would maybe decimate their cap and actually worsen the team in the long run. It would be fair tho, although it wouldn’t help the bad teams any more than the good teams the way I’m interpreting it. It does get rid of tankng tho, and is a viable option/

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  • #922537
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    stealsgalore
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    I think an interesting way to do the draft would be some sort of auction system where teams could bid on a draft pick with their available cap space. This would reflect value of different drafts and force teams to spend their money wisely. I would only do this auction system with a certain number of picks (top 10 or 14 or whatever) and then randomly order all te teams after that and the second round. 

    The NBA could still keep the rookie salary structure in place as well, with the winning bid being the base contract the rookie would recieve for his first 4 years. Or they could redo the scale every year based on the $$ the first pick gets and have them negotiate years like all other NBA players.

    Obviously this idea would need a lot of work but I think it could create more parity by giving teams with cap space the oppurtunity to get superstar prospects without having to sign free agents. It also prevents tanking and encourages putting a compeitive team on the floor. It also would result in more smart financial moves being made and better financial executives being hired. 

    A final positive would be the money the NBA could make from televising and covering the auction process (way more interesting than the lottery). I would love to hear thoughts about this idea.

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  • #922411
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    trelos6
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     Didn’t something like this happen with Larry Bird?  He was drafted at #6 but returned to school and joined up with the Celtics a year later. 

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    • #922415
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      MattP31
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      Yes. Also in the 90s Voshon Lenard came out early, was drafted and didn’t like his draft spot so he went back to Minnesota for his senior year. 

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    • #922543
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      MattP31
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      Yes. Also in the 90s Voshon Lenard came out early, was drafted and didn’t like his draft spot so he went back to Minnesota for his senior year. 

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  • #922539
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    trelos6
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     Didn’t something like this happen with Larry Bird?  He was drafted at #6 but returned to school and joined up with the Celtics a year later. 

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  • #922429
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    How about 1 year in the dleague or two years at college.

    It would be interesting what choices player made. I could strengthen the dleague, while keeping the college game in good shape. Players that need the money to help their families would take the 1year dleague route.

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    • #922435
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      SaturdaySportsSection
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      I like that though. Currently the D-League is kind of a joke, but this would make the D-League more legitimate, and maybe this would be a better option for people that could care less about education, which frankly is a decent percentage of the players I bet. Most people would prefer to play for a college b/c the "swag" factor and b/c theyd be campus stars, but if u do 1 yr in d-leage vs 2 yrs in college, it does make it an interesting choice. 

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    • #922563
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      I like that though. Currently the D-League is kind of a joke, but this would make the D-League more legitimate, and maybe this would be a better option for people that could care less about education, which frankly is a decent percentage of the players I bet. Most people would prefer to play for a college b/c the "swag" factor and b/c theyd be campus stars, but if u do 1 yr in d-leage vs 2 yrs in college, it does make it an interesting choice. 

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  • #922557
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    tblazer_NZ
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    How about 1 year in the dleague or two years at college.

    It would be interesting what choices player made. I could strengthen the dleague, while keeping the college game in good shape. Players that need the money to help their families would take the 1year dleague route.

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  • #922437
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    Astro
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    …But now I fully support the 2-year/20 yrs. old proposed rule change.

    We’re getting hyped, immature product – let these kids develop a little mentally. They are being hyped by the Internet since they are 15-16 years old and are believing their own hype. I’m talking about starting with this draft class – it’s getting worse every year.

    The longer they stay in college, they more the hype of “potential” will fade. We could be getting some realized potential instead of just the promise of it.

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    • #922492
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      SaturdaySportsSection
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       I’m totally with you, man. Players are not drafted based on skill; they are drafted on measurables and athleticism mostly. If someone has a 7′ 5" wingspan and a sick vertical he will sky rocket on draft boards even if he couldn’t do anything in college. Players need to develop more, so that the best players are actually drafted, and so that the players are more mature mentally. 

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    • #922619
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       I’m totally with you, man. Players are not drafted based on skill; they are drafted on measurables and athleticism mostly. If someone has a 7′ 5" wingspan and a sick vertical he will sky rocket on draft boards even if he couldn’t do anything in college. Players need to develop more, so that the best players are actually drafted, and so that the players are more mature mentally. 

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  • #922565
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    Astro
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    …But now I fully support the 2-year/20 yrs. old proposed rule change.

    We’re getting hyped, immature product – let these kids develop a little mentally. They are being hyped by the Internet since they are 15-16 years old and are believing their own hype. I’m talking about starting with this draft class – it’s getting worse every year.

    The longer they stay in college, they more the hype of “potential” will fade. We could be getting some realized potential instead of just the promise of it.

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  • #922448
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    Memphis Madness
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     20 year age limit, but let players get drafted after high school.  The team starts paying the contract when the kid leaves school, like with Larry Bird.

     

     

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  • #922575
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     20 year age limit, but let players get drafted after high school.  The team starts paying the contract when the kid leaves school, like with Larry Bird.

     

     

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  • #922646
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    Grandmama
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    Here is the abridged version.

     

    Require that NBA players are at least twenty years old before their team’s first game…. Nope, don’t like it

    Allow anybody who has graduated high school to be drafted, regardless of age. If a team drafts somebody under the age limit, they must wait until he is twenty, until he can play… I think high schoolers should be eligible, but don’t like the 20 year old rule.

    The NBA should pay players that have been drafted, regardless of age…. Obviously

    The NBA should encourage players to stay in school…. At 18 you are considered an adult.  You should be able to declare for the draft, or go to college on your own terms.

    Ditch the Draft Lottery and have a panel of over one-hundred experts individually vote on the draft order for lottery teams…. No f*cking way

     

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  • #922519
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    Here is the abridged version.

     

    Require that NBA players are at least twenty years old before their team’s first game…. Nope, don’t like it

    Allow anybody who has graduated high school to be drafted, regardless of age. If a team drafts somebody under the age limit, they must wait until he is twenty, until he can play… I think high schoolers should be eligible, but don’t like the 20 year old rule.

    The NBA should pay players that have been drafted, regardless of age…. Obviously

    The NBA should encourage players to stay in school…. At 18 you are considered an adult.  You should be able to declare for the draft, or go to college on your own terms.

    Ditch the Draft Lottery and have a panel of over one-hundred experts individually vote on the draft order for lottery teams…. No f*cking way

     

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  • #922672
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     The 100 experts thing would be the most scrutinized implication ever. Any time a team gets the #1 pick, every conspiracy theorist would be shouting bloody murder, and a team that is in the bottom would be even more annoyed. Big teams would be able to just pay their way into higher places.

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  • #922546
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    he_gets_buckets
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     The 100 experts thing would be the most scrutinized implication ever. Any time a team gets the #1 pick, every conspiracy theorist would be shouting bloody murder, and a team that is in the bottom would be even more annoyed. Big teams would be able to just pay their way into higher places.

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  • #922722
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    I don’t believe in forcing a kid to stay in school, doesn’t do any justice. You can fight a war at 18 but cannot make a $100,000+ salary. As much as the people higher up think that staying in school will benefit the athlete, it can hurt them just as much with the prime example being Kevin Ware from Louisville.

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    • #922947
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       Well, 2 things. One, Kevin Ware was never on track to go to the NBA, so college couldn’t rly hurt his NBA chances, and yea u can join a war, but u can’t get any high paying jobs, so it isn’t that ridiculous to make them wait longr. Like there r tons of high school grads that are smart enough to work any high paying job in the country, but they would never be given the chance, not until after college. I think that’s a bad thing, but it isn’t unethical. As for college hurting athletes, ppl blow that out of proportion. People are injured doing all sorts of things, and as a pro team u would probaly rather somebody get injured in college than in the pros.

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    • #922820
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       Well, 2 things. One, Kevin Ware was never on track to go to the NBA, so college couldn’t rly hurt his NBA chances, and yea u can join a war, but u can’t get any high paying jobs, so it isn’t that ridiculous to make them wait longr. Like there r tons of high school grads that are smart enough to work any high paying job in the country, but they would never be given the chance, not until after college. I think that’s a bad thing, but it isn’t unethical. As for college hurting athletes, ppl blow that out of proportion. People are injured doing all sorts of things, and as a pro team u would probaly rather somebody get injured in college than in the pros.

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      • #922969
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         It does not matter if he was projected or not to be a prospect. The Ware situation could have ended up being Nerlens Noel, have you thought about that? Besides the point you cannot write any collegiate athlete off until they are official finished with school, anything is possible with any athlete. Sleeper prospects catch us by storm every year.

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      • #922843
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         It does not matter if he was projected or not to be a prospect. The Ware situation could have ended up being Nerlens Noel, have you thought about that? Besides the point you cannot write any collegiate athlete off until they are official finished with school, anything is possible with any athlete. Sleeper prospects catch us by storm every year.

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  • #922848
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    I don’t believe in forcing a kid to stay in school, doesn’t do any justice. You can fight a war at 18 but cannot make a $100,000+ salary. As much as the people higher up think that staying in school will benefit the athlete, it can hurt them just as much with the prime example being Kevin Ware from Louisville.

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  • #922738
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    Double post

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    Double post

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  • #922897
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    Raise the draft age cut off. I still got potential dang it!

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  • #922770
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    McDunkin

    Raise the draft age cut off. I still got potential dang it!

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