Dante Exum will be a BUST

He’s compared to steph curry? you learn something new each day LOL

He’s compared to steph curry? you learn something new each day LOL

Haven’t seen him play much except a few youtube clips but he does have some bust potential if he doesn’t put it together. I could see him struggle to find a position, similar to Evan Turner. He may not have a great vertical, but he’s very quick, similar to Irving. He’s a great athlete, don’t judge him because his vert wasn’t all that great.

Haven’t seen him play much except a few youtube clips but he does have some bust potential if he doesn’t put it together. I could see him struggle to find a position, similar to Evan Turner. He may not have a great vertical, but he’s very quick, similar to Irving. He’s a great athlete, don’t judge him because his vert wasn’t all that great.

 Every international player is a "man of mystery" to Americans. Sure they don’t have the week to week competition that is in place in the states but you can only play who is in front of you. You mentioned the busts but ask RC Buford his thoughts on drafting an international "man of mystery" it’s worked out ok for him.

 Every international player is a "man of mystery" to Americans. Sure they don’t have the week to week competition that is in place in the states but you can only play who is in front of you. You mentioned the busts but ask RC Buford his thoughts on drafting an international "man of mystery" it’s worked out ok for him.

Why even bring race into the discussion? It shows your inability to deduce based on the subject at hand and even shows your possible bias tendencies. The kid looked great at the u-19 games. Named to an all tourney team like that is no easy feat. That is going up against the other current lottery picks. He is currently 18. Most kids now are graduating at 19 and are 21-22 years old by their junior year. He has been playing against world elite players throughout his teen years. This site’s comparison to Barbosa is a good one. I can remember the outcry when Dirk Norwitzki was drafted as well as Boris Diaw. Lighten up. The world is catching up to us in basketball and their youth is actually more set up to succeed with the sports academies they attend instead of schools at the age of 13.

Why even bring race into the discussion? It shows your inability to deduce based on the subject at hand and even shows your possible bias tendencies. The kid looked great at the u-19 games. Named to an all tourney team like that is no easy feat. That is going up against the other current lottery picks. He is currently 18. Most kids now are graduating at 19 and are 21-22 years old by their junior year. He has been playing against world elite players throughout his teen years. This site’s comparison to Barbosa is a good one. I can remember the outcry when Dirk Norwitzki was drafted as well as Boris Diaw. Lighten up. The world is catching up to us in basketball and their youth is actually more set up to succeed with the sports academies they attend instead of schools at the age of 13.

 I like this actually. Bold but there is such a small sample size of information to make such a pick. I like this guy it is not out of the realm of possibility that this guy fails

 I like this actually. Bold but there is such a small sample size of information to make such a pick. I like this guy it is not out of the realm of possibility that this guy fails

The first thing that makes Exum different from the other players you mentioned is that he’s a point guard, not a PF/C.

Do you consider the U19 World Championship and Nike Hoops Summit to be poor quality?

His length for his position is amazing. He fact that he can keep up with smaller, faster point guards means that he’ll physically be able to play the position.

The toughness concerns are unwarranted in my opinion. In the hoops summit he pentrated to rim several times and didn’t shy from bigger defenders switching on to him.

I can see why some people prefer Smart, but Napier? And has Exum ever been compared to Curry? The one thing you were right about was his questionable jumpshot; Curry’s jumpshot is one of his biggest assets.

I can’t decide if this is troll post or simple ignorance.

The first thing that makes Exum different from the other players you mentioned is that he’s a point guard, not a PF/C.

Do you consider the U19 World Championship and Nike Hoops Summit to be poor quality?

His length for his position is amazing. He fact that he can keep up with smaller, faster point guards means that he’ll physically be able to play the position.

The toughness concerns are unwarranted in my opinion. In the hoops summit he pentrated to rim several times and didn’t shy from bigger defenders switching on to him.

I can see why some people prefer Smart, but Napier? And has Exum ever been compared to Curry? The one thing you were right about was his questionable jumpshot; Curry’s jumpshot is one of his biggest assets.

I can’t decide if this is troll post or simple ignorance.

 Dante is the next Kobe 

 Dante is the next Kobe 

Who ever said exum is compared to curry is a complete idiot. Hes more like a westbrook with penny hardaway size. Hes not really a mystery anymore every team at the top of the draft is very aware of what he brings and his skill set. He will not be a bust. He had like a 35 inch vertical. I bet thats not the highest vertical he has had. Aaron gordon was projected to have a vert in the 40’s ended up with a 39. Levine had a 42 inch vertical at the combine..had 46 inch vert at the lakers workout Exum plays much more athletic than his vert lol

Who ever said exum is compared to curry is a complete idiot. Hes more like a westbrook with penny hardaway size. Hes not really a mystery anymore every team at the top of the draft is very aware of what he brings and his skill set. He will not be a bust. He had like a 35 inch vertical. I bet thats not the highest vertical he has had. Aaron gordon was projected to have a vert in the 40’s ended up with a 39. Levine had a 42 inch vertical at the combine..had 46 inch vert at the lakers workout Exum plays much more athletic than his vert lol

 I think hes not as good as people think

 I think hes not as good as people think

 As far as being underrated athletically I would beg to differ. He is 19 in July and his body is still maturing. The combine proved he is very agile and he had  32 inch no step vert and 35 inch max vert. I think some players just dont train for the combine and some do to boost thier stock. 

In comparison I watched Lavine and Mcdaniels a bit throughout the year and thought both would have similar max verts although I think Lavine trained his vert for workouts and Mcdaniels likely has been working on other aspects of his game. Nobody is going to say Mcdaniels is not an above average athlete because he didnt post a 40 inch vert.

For instance Kawhi Leonard posted a 25 inch no step vert and a 32 inch max vert yet watching him throughout his career he has proved to be a great athlete.

 As far as being underrated athletically I would beg to differ. He is 19 in July and his body is still maturing. The combine proved he is very agile and he had  32 inch no step vert and 35 inch max vert. I think some players just dont train for the combine and some do to boost thier stock. 

In comparison I watched Lavine and Mcdaniels a bit throughout the year and thought both would have similar max verts although I think Lavine trained his vert for workouts and Mcdaniels likely has been working on other aspects of his game. Nobody is going to say Mcdaniels is not an above average athlete because he didnt post a 40 inch vert.

For instance Kawhi Leonard posted a 25 inch no step vert and a 32 inch max vert yet watching him throughout his career he has proved to be a great athlete.

 I hate when people compare him to Penny Hardaway, my favorite player. Penny already had a polished mid range game, the size at 6’7, post game, magic johnson like court vision, the whole package and while scouts don’t even know if Dante is a one or a two. He’s not even Shaun Livingston who was a 6’7 pure point with a great post game. People immediately see the size and thinks he’s Penny/Shaun Livingston but nothing about him screams Penny Hardaway/Shaun Livingston. To me he’s more of a 6’6 Leandro Barbosa lighting quick combo guard with a great first step.

 I hate when people compare him to Penny Hardaway, my favorite player. Penny already had a polished mid range game, the size at 6’7, post game, magic johnson like court vision, the whole package and while scouts don’t even know if Dante is a one or a two. He’s not even Shaun Livingston who was a 6’7 pure point with a great post game. People immediately see the size and thinks he’s Penny/Shaun Livingston but nothing about him screams Penny Hardaway/Shaun Livingston. To me he’s more of a 6’6 Leandro Barbosa lighting quick combo guard with a great first step.

 Exum is overrated, I hope Orlando takes him at 4, to me there going off of hope and a prayer he turns into a star player. Thats not how you should draft player’s, you go off of if their NBA ready or not. Not if he looks the part looks can be deceiving. Just like we all thought Greg Oden was the next big thing. 

 Exum is overrated, I hope Orlando takes him at 4, to me there going off of hope and a prayer he turns into a star player. Thats not how you should draft player’s, you go off of if their NBA ready or not. Not if he looks the part looks can be deceiving. Just like we all thought Greg Oden was the next big thing. 

But a 17 year old DOMINATING the 19u World Championships is enough to justify him being picked where he will get picked. How do you explain that? Is the biggest international tournament with American studs like Aaron Gordon and Jahlil Oak not competitive enough for your taste? He has the star potential that teams who are in the bottom 5 of the league salivate over and he is extremely young with plenty of room to improve. Just because it isn’t convienant for Americans to have scouted him doesn’t mean he wasn’t properly scouted or could have been for that matter. The "international men of mystery" you mentioned above were no mystery to the scouts; not a single analyst and maybe 1 scout argued for Melo over Darko back in 2003. These kids are all talented, that is why they are going to be drafted to the hardest league to get drafted to. The situation they go to often determines if they are successful or not i.e. Darko and Yi.

For a non basketball example, if David Carr and Blaine Gabbert studied under Brett Farve for 3 years and became a starter under stable circumstances would they still have flopped? And if Aaron Rodgers went to Houston in their inaugural season or went to Jacksonville and got sacked every other time he dropped back would he be as good as he is now? The answer is most likely no.

But a 17 year old DOMINATING the 19u World Championships is enough to justify him being picked where he will get picked. How do you explain that? Is the biggest international tournament with American studs like Aaron Gordon and Jahlil Oak not competitive enough for your taste? He has the star potential that teams who are in the bottom 5 of the league salivate over and he is extremely young with plenty of room to improve. Just because it isn’t convienant for Americans to have scouted him doesn’t mean he wasn’t properly scouted or could have been for that matter. The "international men of mystery" you mentioned above were no mystery to the scouts; not a single analyst and maybe 1 scout argued for Melo over Darko back in 2003. These kids are all talented, that is why they are going to be drafted to the hardest league to get drafted to. The situation they go to often determines if they are successful or not i.e. Darko and Yi.

For a non basketball example, if David Carr and Blaine Gabbert studied under Brett Farve for 3 years and became a starter under stable circumstances would they still have flopped? And if Aaron Rodgers went to Houston in their inaugural season or went to Jacksonville and got sacked every other time he dropped back would he be as good as he is now? The answer is most likely no.

 ColdCuts, that is a terrible example of saying exum is overrated. Oden was the victim of terrible knee injuries. He was actually pretty productive when he got on the court and he was viewed as the next great C. Exum is a international Combo Guard who won’t be the #1 pick barring some unforeseen crazy circumstance. Exum might be overrated in some circles but not for any of the reasons you " made up". If anything it’s because he played against mediocre talent, Blew up after playing in the U-19 and U-18 games, and has the ideal size and atheleticism. He still isn’t a great shooter, he needs to add muscle, he needs to become a better passer. He has some flaws that could hinder him, those are reasons why he could be overrated. Not any of the reasons you stated. I will say that most players in this class are not NBA ready but it’s a process of getting adjusted to the game and adapting. He is a good kid and I wouldn’t be surprised if he booms or busts. Just like someone like Lavine, Wiggins, Vonleh, or pretty much any other player.

 ColdCuts, that is a terrible example of saying exum is overrated. Oden was the victim of terrible knee injuries. He was actually pretty productive when he got on the court and he was viewed as the next great C. Exum is a international Combo Guard who won’t be the #1 pick barring some unforeseen crazy circumstance. Exum might be overrated in some circles but not for any of the reasons you " made up". If anything it’s because he played against mediocre talent, Blew up after playing in the U-19 and U-18 games, and has the ideal size and atheleticism. He still isn’t a great shooter, he needs to add muscle, he needs to become a better passer. He has some flaws that could hinder him, those are reasons why he could be overrated. Not any of the reasons you stated. I will say that most players in this class are not NBA ready but it’s a process of getting adjusted to the game and adapting. He is a good kid and I wouldn’t be surprised if he booms or busts. Just like someone like Lavine, Wiggins, Vonleh, or pretty much any other player.

I know it is just one game but he was at the same level than Jabari Parker, Wiggins and Randle at the Nike Hoop Summit. He looked like the most talented in this game. He was damn good at the World U19

I really don’t think he will be a bust, he’s a pure talent. May be will he struggle to adapt League, but he has a great potential, there is no mistery abou that.

We don’t know much of his work ethic, that is the only thing that could make him a bust

I know it is just one game but he was at the same level than Jabari Parker, Wiggins and Randle at the Nike Hoop Summit. He looked like the most talented in this game. He was damn good at the World U19

I really don’t think he will be a bust, he’s a pure talent. May be will he struggle to adapt League, but he has a great potential, there is no mistery abou that.

We don’t know much of his work ethic, that is the only thing that could make him a bust

On him as a top 5 pick as I just dont believe he will be an imediate impact player. Like mentioned above in the U19s tournamebt he played poorly and was pulledfrom the game after only playing 11mins(-7pts 4TO)  obviously to hide him from firther exposure. Coincidently the opposing guards on the USA team were Payton and Smart. In Hoop sumit he came off the bench and played well but note he ws being guarded by the Harrison twins who are far from lock down defenders as we saw them striggle with penetration all year.

I can see the tools, I like the Barbosa comparison alot. I had actually compared him to a taller version of the young tony Parker prebiously but Barbosa is a better one. Barbosa and other men of mystery are usually atleast playing at some professional level. Hes playing against HS aged kids from Australia so I cant see where hes been tested especially as a PG.

I think he could definately enmd up being a solid or good player but I wonder how long it will take if he’s definately trying to play the point. If he was trying to be a 2 I actually think he would find success quicker in terms of just scoring rather than running a team of grown men and trying to get yours.

Do you guys really see an immediate impact player? Are his stats against the HS kids considered better than Lavines UCLA stats. Imagine him in Australia. Not comparing players but I think the assumption that hes gonna do work right away might be a bit off. 

On him as a top 5 pick as I just dont believe he will be an imediate impact player. Like mentioned above in the U19s tournamebt he played poorly and was pulledfrom the game after only playing 11mins(-7pts 4TO)  obviously to hide him from firther exposure. Coincidently the opposing guards on the USA team were Payton and Smart. In Hoop sumit he came off the bench and played well but note he ws being guarded by the Harrison twins who are far from lock down defenders as we saw them striggle with penetration all year.

I can see the tools, I like the Barbosa comparison alot. I had actually compared him to a taller version of the young tony Parker prebiously but Barbosa is a better one. Barbosa and other men of mystery are usually atleast playing at some professional level. Hes playing against HS aged kids from Australia so I cant see where hes been tested especially as a PG.

I think he could definately enmd up being a solid or good player but I wonder how long it will take if he’s definately trying to play the point. If he was trying to be a 2 I actually think he would find success quicker in terms of just scoring rather than running a team of grown men and trying to get yours.

Do you guys really see an immediate impact player? Are his stats against the HS kids considered better than Lavines UCLA stats. Imagine him in Australia. Not comparing players but I think the assumption that hes gonna do work right away might be a bit off. 

 He probably will struggle initially but your drafting him for the long term. He is not going to come in and average 20 10 Ast. I think he will be an impact player but if your looking for him to be what Westbrook is right now as soon as he gets on the court your going to be disappointed . I think he averages 14 4 4 as a rookie. 

 He probably will struggle initially but your drafting him for the long term. He is not going to come in and average 20 10 Ast. I think he will be an impact player but if your looking for him to be what Westbrook is right now as soon as he gets on the court your going to be disappointed . I think he averages 14 4 4 as a rookie. 

 Exum is overrated, I hope Orlando takes him at 4, to me there going off of hope and a prayer he turns into a star player. Thats not how you should draft player’s, you go off of if their NBA ready or not. Not if he looks the part looks can be deceiving. Just like we all thought Greg Oden was the next big thing. 

 Exum is overrated, I hope Orlando takes him at 4, to me there going off of hope and a prayer he turns into a star player. Thats not how you should draft player’s, you go off of if their NBA ready or not. Not if he looks the part looks can be deceiving. Just like we all thought Greg Oden was the next big thing. 

I just wanted to remind you that Exum twisted his ankle against the USA in that tournament, which is why he had poor stats. He only played 11 minutes.

I just wanted to remind you that Exum twisted his ankle against the USA in that tournament, which is why he had poor stats. He only played 11 minutes.

 He dropped 33 on a very very strong spanish team….. Enough said! 

 He dropped 33 on a very very strong spanish team….. Enough said! 

 Also not sold on him. He drops numbers on teams who would be considered D2 college teams. He hasn’t shown to be a pg, looks more like a shooting guard who needs to become a better shooter. I think he ends up being decent but not sold on him being a star. He benifits from not playing college so his weaknesses aren’t exposed like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Embiid, Smart etc. coming out of  H.S those guys weaknesses weren’t exposed as much either. Wiggins was the next great, Parker was the next great, Randle was the next dominating big etc.  

when end embiid got a chance to face smart,Payton he struggled as a pg before he hurt his ankle(could have played but suspect he was shook)

 Also not sold on him. He drops numbers on teams who would be considered D2 college teams. He hasn’t shown to be a pg, looks more like a shooting guard who needs to become a better shooter. I think he ends up being decent but not sold on him being a star. He benifits from not playing college so his weaknesses aren’t exposed like Wiggins, Parker, Randle, Embiid, Smart etc. coming out of  H.S those guys weaknesses weren’t exposed as much either. Wiggins was the next great, Parker was the next great, Randle was the next dominating big etc.  

when end embiid got a chance to face smart,Payton he struggled as a pg before he hurt his ankle(could have played but suspect he was shook)

I really wanna see him be that guy in the nba. But penny was nasty.. period… Shaun Is nice still, although not the og Shaun but no scrub.But i will make a quick point. 

What guys in the nba have fit exums mold…

6’6 

Not an ovrrall  "Wow" athlete

But pretty quick

We have never see a 6’6 Barbosa lol

Lastly Its not just the talent ves playin against Its a culture as well that hora into that development look at how many players get drafted and Take years to pan out Or to even get over here from being overseas….Its a totally different process..Not race Or ethnicty…culture..and the competition

I really wanna see him be that guy in the nba. But penny was nasty.. period… Shaun Is nice still, although not the og Shaun but no scrub.But i will make a quick point. 

What guys in the nba have fit exums mold…

6’6 

Not an ovrrall  "Wow" athlete

But pretty quick

We have never see a 6’6 Barbosa lol

Lastly Its not just the talent ves playin against Its a culture as well that hora into that development look at how many players get drafted and Take years to pan out Or to even get over here from being overseas….Its a totally different process..Not race Or ethnicty…culture..and the competition

 I’m sorry, but this is one of the worst post/topics I have seen here in awhile.  Good lord.

"Exum will be a bust because I say he will be a bust, and I’m good at spotting busts. I havn’t ever seen him play anywhere but YouTube but trust me, I know, because I said the same thing about Milicic, Veseley, Yi, and Tshivilli (???).  I know because he’s black and tall he looks like he might be good just like Steph Curry, but he can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t defend,  can’t dribble, and he’s stupid on top of it….Every scout that has praised his athleticism is wrong.  I have watched at least a half dozen highlight vids and he is slow.  Many people say that pro ball overseas is better than high school ball here, but that’s obviously bullshit because they are foreigners and no international players are ever good in the NBA…Trust me guys I’m good at picking busts.  I mean just look at Tshivilli…"

 I’m sorry, but this is one of the worst post/topics I have seen here in awhile.  Good lord.

"Exum will be a bust because I say he will be a bust, and I’m good at spotting busts. I havn’t ever seen him play anywhere but YouTube but trust me, I know, because I said the same thing about Milicic, Veseley, Yi, and Tshivilli (???).  I know because he’s black and tall he looks like he might be good just like Steph Curry, but he can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t defend,  can’t dribble, and he’s stupid on top of it….Every scout that has praised his athleticism is wrong.  I have watched at least a half dozen highlight vids and he is slow.  Many people say that pro ball overseas is better than high school ball here, but that’s obviously bullshit because they are foreigners and no international players are ever good in the NBA…Trust me guys I’m good at picking busts.  I mean just look at Tshivilli…"

 I also think hes selfish, immature, and not very intelligent(bball or other). Not great qualities especially for a PG hopeful. I hope the lakers draft him 😉

 I also think hes selfish, immature, and not very intelligent(bball or other). Not great qualities especially for a PG hopeful. I hope the lakers draft him 😉

He seemed like a down to earth guy to me. Call him whatever you want (PG/SG)… he needs the ball in his hands to be effective and when he comes off pick and rolls his quickness draws help defense, which opens his teammates for easy baskets. Defense is suspect, though.

He’s Nothing like Penny Hardaway (who had a great post-up game) or Shaun Livingston (a pass-first PG). A 6’6” Leandro Barbosa looks like a decent comparison, but I still think Exum can be a better passer.

He seemed like a down to earth guy to me. Call him whatever you want (PG/SG)… he needs the ball in his hands to be effective and when he comes off pick and rolls his quickness draws help defense, which opens his teammates for easy baskets. Defense is suspect, though.

He’s Nothing like Penny Hardaway (who had a great post-up game) or Shaun Livingston (a pass-first PG). A 6’6” Leandro Barbosa looks like a decent comparison, but I still think Exum can be a better passer.