Embiid to work out for MIL

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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 2:18am #56391

MattP31
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Just saw a tweet from Chad Ford from last night that Embiid will go to Milwaukee to work out, also mentions the rest of the big four guys are visiting as well. I remember it being said that Embiid planned to only work out for Cavs if they got any kind of assurances plus all the rumors he didn’t want to work out for the Bucks.
Maybe I’m reading into this too much but to me this is very surprising.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 2:27am #919884

FutureNBAGM
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He would be a helluva upgrade over Sanders.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 2:27am #920014

FutureNBAGM
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He would be a helluva upgrade over Sanders.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:02am #919898

Toronto16
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That definitely means his work out with the Cavs didn’t go as well as expected.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:18am #919914
  
  tidho
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  By all reports the work out with Cleveland went exceptionally well.
  Its the medical evaluation that some are questioning.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:18am #920045
  
  tidho
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  By all reports the work out with Cleveland went exceptionally well.
  Its the medical evaluation that some are questioning.
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:19am #919916
  
  MattP31
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  That was my first thought. But then I started to think about it a little more and maybe it means that the workout was good but the Cavs weren’t ready to commit- I know they haven’t worked out Wiggins yet, and not sure about Parker. And with the general uncertainty around who to take #1, Embiid’s group decided to work out for the #2 team because if the Cavs like Wiggins or Parker better then other teams will be scared to take him minus the workout and physical.
  Or option 3, which is the least likely to me but still a possibility- the Cavs told him to do this to try to scare the Sixers into giving up a lot to trade up for Wiggins.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:50am #919926
    
    Ebown5
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    I don’t think that there is any chance that the Cavs would try to get him to participate in something to put pressure on another team, and even if they did do that, he wouldn’t do it.
    This obviously means that the Cavs have not committed to him yet, but as to what their thinking is, I have no idea.
    I still think that they will end up taking him number 1, but I have to admit that I didn’t think that he was going to workout for other teams, and the fact that he now is shows some weakness in his position.
    As a Sixers fan I think that this complicates our ability to get Wiggins. While I would want Embiid over the other two, I don’t think that he gets past the Bucks regardless. If the Cavs take Embiid then I think Wiggins falls to us. If they take Wiggins, then Parker falls to us.
    I would be happy with any of the three, but I would prefer Wiggins to Parker.
    
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 10:04am #920182
      
      vulture711
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      I would take any of the 3. Really – any of them are a signfificant upgrade and another steop in the right direction. I wouldn’t sweat it much or over complicate it. I’m not really interested in overpaying to get to 1 because I’d be just as happy to get one of them at 3 and still have 10 and Thad Young
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 10:04am #920312
      
      vulture711
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      I would take any of the 3. Really – any of them are a signfificant upgrade and another steop in the right direction. I wouldn’t sweat it much or over complicate it. I’m not really interested in overpaying to get to 1 because I’d be just as happy to get one of them at 3 and still have 10 and Thad Young
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:50am #920057
    
    Ebown5
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    I don’t think that there is any chance that the Cavs would try to get him to participate in something to put pressure on another team, and even if they did do that, he wouldn’t do it.
    This obviously means that the Cavs have not committed to him yet, but as to what their thinking is, I have no idea.
    I still think that they will end up taking him number 1, but I have to admit that I didn’t think that he was going to workout for other teams, and the fact that he now is shows some weakness in his position.
    As a Sixers fan I think that this complicates our ability to get Wiggins. While I would want Embiid over the other two, I don’t think that he gets past the Bucks regardless. If the Cavs take Embiid then I think Wiggins falls to us. If they take Wiggins, then Parker falls to us.
    I would be happy with any of the three, but I would prefer Wiggins to Parker.
    
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:07am #920067
    
    AwrightAwrightAwright
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    I personally don’t think it’s a smokescreen by the Cavs anymore because they might still stand a chance of losing Embiid to Milwaukee at 2 if they (the Cavs) succeed in bamboozling the Sixers into giving them the both the 3rd and 10th picks.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:07am #919936
    
    AwrightAwrightAwright
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    I personally don’t think it’s a smokescreen by the Cavs anymore because they might still stand a chance of losing Embiid to Milwaukee at 2 if they (the Cavs) succeed in bamboozling the Sixers into giving them the both the 3rd and 10th picks.
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:33am #920075
      
      Ebown5
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      I realize that there is a lot of BS floating around at this time as there should be. You don’t want anyone to know what you are thinking, but it is very possible to get too cute if you aren’t careful.
      If the Cavs think that Embiid is the best player for them then they should posture all that they want, but select him number 1 in the end. If they trade with the Sixers and hope that they can still get Embiid at 3 then they are playing with fire. The Bucks are working him out this week which means that they will have access to his medical records as well.
      If they are clean, as I suspect, then the Bucks won’t pass on him at 2. The only reason that you would make the trade from the Cavs perspective would be if you are ok with Parker at 3 because that is who you will end up with.
      As a Sixers fan, I would only be willing to trade 3 and 10 if it meant that we could take Embiid. I certainly wouldn’t do it for Wiggins.
      I am totally guessing here, but I think that the top four plays out in one of two ways.
      1. Cavs take Embiid
      2. Bucks take Parker
      3. Sixers take Wiggins
      4. Magic take Exum or Smart
      OR
      1. Cavs take Embiid
      2. Magic takes Wiggins (Bucks trade down to 4)
      3. Sixers take Parker
      4. Bucks take Exum
      
      If the Bucks can’t get Embiid, would they be willing to take 4 and 12 for Wiggins, or would they just stand pat and take Parker at 2?
      The Bucks are really in a great spot here, and so are the Sixers, but it will depend on what the Cavs do. The Cavs control the draft and that is the benefit of holding the number 1 pick.
      
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    - Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:33am #919945
      
      Ebown5
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      I realize that there is a lot of BS floating around at this time as there should be. You don’t want anyone to know what you are thinking, but it is very possible to get too cute if you aren’t careful.
      If the Cavs think that Embiid is the best player for them then they should posture all that they want, but select him number 1 in the end. If they trade with the Sixers and hope that they can still get Embiid at 3 then they are playing with fire. The Bucks are working him out this week which means that they will have access to his medical records as well.
      If they are clean, as I suspect, then the Bucks won’t pass on him at 2. The only reason that you would make the trade from the Cavs perspective would be if you are ok with Parker at 3 because that is who you will end up with.
      As a Sixers fan, I would only be willing to trade 3 and 10 if it meant that we could take Embiid. I certainly wouldn’t do it for Wiggins.
      I am totally guessing here, but I think that the top four plays out in one of two ways.
      1. Cavs take Embiid
      2. Bucks take Parker
      3. Sixers take Wiggins
      4. Magic take Exum or Smart
      OR
      1. Cavs take Embiid
      2. Magic takes Wiggins (Bucks trade down to 4)
      3. Sixers take Parker
      4. Bucks take Exum
      
      If the Bucks can’t get Embiid, would they be willing to take 4 and 12 for Wiggins, or would they just stand pat and take Parker at 2?
      The Bucks are really in a great spot here, and so are the Sixers, but it will depend on what the Cavs do. The Cavs control the draft and that is the benefit of holding the number 1 pick.
      
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- Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:19am #920047
  
  MattP31
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  That was my first thought. But then I started to think about it a little more and maybe it means that the workout was good but the Cavs weren’t ready to commit- I know they haven’t worked out Wiggins yet, and not sure about Parker. And with the general uncertainty around who to take #1, Embiid’s group decided to work out for the #2 team because if the Cavs like Wiggins or Parker better then other teams will be scared to take him minus the workout and physical.
  Or option 3, which is the least likely to me but still a possibility- the Cavs told him to do this to try to scare the Sixers into giving up a lot to trade up for Wiggins.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 3:02am #920028

Toronto16
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That definitely means his work out with the Cavs didn’t go as well as expected.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:41am #920085

tidho
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The good news is that we might hear somethng about how he looks from the Bucks organization.
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Posted on: Mon, 06/16/2014 - 4:41am #919954

tidho
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The good news is that we might hear somethng about how he looks from the Bucks organization.
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